Donna Pisani has spent decades following Jesus—from missions work to planting a church in Washington, DC—and she brings a rare kind of wisdom that only comes from a long walk with God. In this conversation, she opens up about how shame can quietly silence a woman’s voice, and how healing brings it back in unexpected seasons of life.

She also shares the cost and beauty of obedience in later life—leaving what was familiar, even moving away from her grandkids, and discovering that retirement with God looks more like repurposing. If you’re in an empty nest or transition season, this conversation will meet you right where you are.

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