In this episode, we are joined by the Reverend Dr. Otis Moss, III. Dr. Moss is senior pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. He is a preacher, poet, activist, author and filmmaker with an eye toward justice and equality, as evidenced through the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Reverend Dr. Otis Moss, III was invited to be in conversation because we are entering into a new phase of our world. It's called a non-democratic phase of life in America. One can see it just by the the nominations for the next administration's cabinet. One can see these are anti-democratic people. Their goal is to actually tear apart the institutions that make democracy possible. And we also are in a time when the "Middle East" (and that is put in quotes because of what is discussed in this episode) where that region is now on fire. And it's dangerous as in what happens there can affect everybody. So this conversation is ultimately about how to pastor the church through all this.

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