In this episode, Dinesh explores what makes people who have been longtime Democrats open their eyes and move right. Dinesh chuckles over leftist paranoia that Elon Musk will do to them what the digital moguls have been doing to conservatives.  Debbie joins Dinesh to talk about a forthcoming trip to Israel--and you're invited. Dinesh discusses Dante's treatment of free will in the purgatorial terrace of wrath. 

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