Gary Arndt, a famous world-traveler, has been to chaotic places, but this week, chaos came to his hometown, Minneapolis.

We talked last night while we heard rioting outside his window. On this recording, you'll hear sirens, honking horns, and helicopters.

George Floyd's death sparked riots throughout the USA, but the epicenter is in Gary's backyard.

In the second half of the interview, we switch topics to talk about his diet.

I've had 2 vegans on my podcast (Sym and Gehn), so Gary will provide a different perspective since his diet is the antithesis of veganism. 

ABOUT THE AUDIO: Before recording, I was experimenting with my audio setup and I forgot to reset. As a result, my audio is poor. Sorry about that. Luckily, Gary does most of the talking and he sounds fine.

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