By any objective measure, Robby Zar and I have wonderful lives with small gaps where the creativity goes. Though some of the artistic disciplines are different, our take on being creative is the same, whether it’s music or writing or picture taking or speaking. We find time for it when we can, but it’s not our whole selves, nor even among our highest priorities.What comes first both in this conversation and in our lives is using our creative energies in support of helping our children grow into creative, self-actualized people in the same ways our own parents paved the way for us to be who we are today.I’m very grateful to Robby for his encouragement as well as his willingness to have this conversation, and to provide its musical backing.#VerseShow comprises conversations that give voice to creators, their process, their struggles, and the celebrations of their work. It's an interview podcast with a bend toward curiosity about the creative process.