Our guest in this episode is architectural critic, writer and educator, Rory Hyde. Rory is an associate professor of architecture, curatorial design and practice at the University of Melbourne. After working in architectural practice, Rory's career has excelled in many areas connected or adjacent to traditional practice. In this interview, Rory shares his thoughts on architecture career pathways, the importance of doing things other than architecture that broaden our experiences and understanding of the world, the place of passion projects in an architect's career, and how some side projects become main projects. This interview is conducted by Nicole Mesquita-Mendes, the 2022 National SONA President based in Queensland.