Brian chats with The Ringer’s Michael Pina about the first round of the NBA playoffs, including Jayson Tatum’s incredible series, Jrue Holiday’s hamstring injury, the formidable Cavaliers, and more (0:35). Then, Brian explains why a few players—including Tatum—could be in line to become the next face of the NBA, depending on who wins the Finals this year (29:30). Later, Brian answers a listener call before he and Jamie get to the latest Bill Belichick drama (42:40).

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Host: Brian Barrett

Guest: Michael Pina

Producer: Jamie McClellan

Additional Production Supervision: Steve Ceruti

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