In this episode of Round Trip Death, host Eric Bennett and guest Donald Winner take a deep investigative dive into near-death experiences (NDEs) using the tools of intelligence analysis rather than belief or doctrine.
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Drawing on decades of experience in military intelligence and journalism, Don explains how he began studying NDEs after his father briefly lost consciousness and wondered aloud if that moment felt like dying. What started as curiosity turned into a large-scale analysis of thousands of NDE accounts.
Don explains that when viewed collectively, near-death experiences reveal remarkable consistency: out-of-body perception, movement through darkness or a tunnel, encounters with light or an intelligence, life reviews, and reunions with deceased loved ones. While individual experiences vary in detail, the underlying structure remains strikingly uniform—much like people describing the same journey from different perspectives.
He also explains how he evaluates authenticity, including the development of a computer-based scoring model that analyzes transcripts for known NDE markers. According to Don, true NDEs are marked by clarity, coherence, and emotional authenticity—unlike hallucinations or drug-induced visions.
The conversation expands into the origins of religion, with Don proposing that ancient near-death experiences—shared orally for hundreds of thousands of years—may be the foundation for humanity’s earliest concepts of the soul, the afterlife, and God. Importantly, he emphasizes that belief systems don’t seem to dictate what happens after death; atheists, Christians, and people of all faiths report similar core experiences.
This episode offers a grounded, analytical, and thought-provoking exploration of what may await us beyond death—without asking listeners to believe anything blindly.
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