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Spooktober continues, Fiends! We are back for the second part of our Bloody Mary episode.

Em of the Back Away Slowly Podcast has done an insane deep dive into urban legends and Mary herself, so it was only fitting that we summon her for this one. This second part gets into international variations of Mary, what the legend tells us, and our favourite portrayals in media.

Don't forget to watch out for our Mirror Folklore Pine Cones later in the month!

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S O U R C E S:

• American children's folklore by Bronner, Simon J
• Bloody Mary in the Mirror: A Ritual Reflection of Pre-Pubescent Anxiety Alan Dundes, Western Folklore Vol. 57, No. 2/3 (Spring - Summer, 1998)
• Cognitive Evolution and the Transmission of Popular Narratives: A Literature Review and Application to Urban Legends - Joe Stubbersfield, Emma Flynn, Jamshid Tehrani Psychology (PSY)
• https://mikesirota.com/myths-and-legends-haunted-bathrooms-around-the-world/
• Girls, Moral Panic and News Media Troublesome BodiesBy Sharon Mazzarella ·
• https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/sports-and-leisure/bloody-mary-folklore#full-article
• https://www.thehumanexception.com/l/bloody-mary/
• https://erenow.org/common/american-myths-legends-tall-tales-3-volumes-encyclopedia-american-folklore/61.php
• https://fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/explore-our-collection/highlights/context/sign-and-symbols/mirrors
• Ghosts in Mirrors: Reflections of the Self Elizabeth Tucker The Journal of American Folklore Vol. 118, No. 468, Emerging Legends in Contemporary Society (Spring, 2005), pp. 186-203 (18 pages)
• Linda Dégh, Legend and Belief. Dialectics of a Folklore Genre [2001]
• Orma. Journal of Ethnological and Historical-Religious Studies
• Indiana University Press, 2001
• https://the-history-girls.blogspot.com/2017/04/through-glass-darkly-mirrors-myths-and.html
• https://www.twowaymirrors.com/mirror-superstitions/
• Godinez, Mac (2023-11-29). "Violent Reflections: Bloody Mary in 1990s Pop Culture". University of Massachusetts Undergraduate History Journal. 7 (1). doi:10.7275/zmph-jf77.
• https://www.jesterbear.com/Wicca/BloodyMary2.html
• https://funeral.com/es/blogs/podcasts/covering-mirrors-after-death-meaning-and-modern-mourning

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Happy Spooktober, Fiends! This month, we are treating you to an Urban Legends Special and kicking off with the most iconic bathroom ghost of all: Bloody Mary.

Em of the Back Away Slowly Podcast has done an insane deep dive into urban legends and Mary herself, so it was only fitting that we summon her for this one. It's going to be a two-parter, with Part 1 being a general intro to Em and Urban Legends, the Bloody Mary legend, and who she could originally have been.

Don't forget to come back October 14th for Part 2!

Check out Em on Socials.

S O U R C E S:

• American children's folklore by Bronner, Simon J
• Bloody Mary in the Mirror: A Ritual Reflection of Pre-Pubescent Anxiety Alan Dundes, Western Folklore Vol. 57, No. 2/3 (Spring - Summer, 1998)
• Cognitive Evolution and the Transmission of Popular Narratives: A Literature Review and Application to Urban Legends - Joe Stubbersfield, Emma Flynn, Jamshid Tehrani Psychology (PSY)
• https://mikesirota.com/myths-and-legends-haunted-bathrooms-around-the-world/
• Girls, Moral Panic and News Media Troublesome BodiesBy Sharon Mazzarella ·
• https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/sports-and-leisure/bloody-mary-folklore#full-article
• https://www.thehumanexception.com/l/bloody-mary/
• https://erenow.org/common/american-myths-legends-tall-tales-3-volumes-encyclopedia-american-folklore/61.php
• https://fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/explore-our-collection/highlights/context/sign-and-symbols/mirrors
• Ghosts in Mirrors: Reflections of the Self Elizabeth Tucker The Journal of American Folklore Vol. 118, No. 468, Emerging Legends in Contemporary Society (Spring, 2005), pp. 186-203 (18 pages)
•  Linda Dégh, Legend and Belief. Dialectics of a Folklore Genre [2001]
• Orma. Journal of Ethnological and Historical-Religious Studies
• Indiana University Press, 2001
• https://the-history-girls.blogspot.com/2017/04/through-glass-darkly-mirrors-myths-and.html
• https://www.twowaymirrors.com/mirror-superstitions/
• Godinez, Mac (2023-11-29). "Violent Reflections: Bloody Mary in 1990s Pop Culture". University of Massachusetts Undergraduate History Journal. 7 (1). doi:10.7275/zmph-jf77. 
• https://www.jesterbear.com/Wicca/BloodyMary2.html
• https://funeral.com/es/blogs/podcasts/covering-mirrors-after-death-meaning-and-modern-mourning

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Grab a tea, come hang out, and let us know if YOU came across anything in your infinite scroll sessions. Niamh chats with author Katie Ortiz about her upcoming debut novel, The Southern Sorority of Superstitious Witches. We explore witchcraft in the South, women's liberation, and the inspiration behind Katie's writing.

We also share our ultimate recommendation list of books, movies, TV, and games for those who crave a little magic in their lives during the spookiest of seasons!

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On 7 June 1692, a massive earthquake followed by a devastating tsunami killed two thousand people and submerged the city of Port Royal in Jamaica. Once dubbed the "wickedest city on earth," Port Royal was the infamous haven for the real-life pirates of the Caribbean, and its sudden sinking was widely deemed a swift act of divine retribution...

S O U R C E S:

• https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/sunken-pirate-stronghold-at-port-royal
• https://www.icysedgwick.com/submerged-villages/
• https://eccunion.com/warrior-life/2023/06/19/top-5-haunted-places-close-to-ecc-from-downtown-l-a-to-the-south-bay-heres-where-you-are-most-likely-to-encounter-a-ghost/
• https://mattsalusbury.blogspot.com/2020/09/the-bells-bells.html
• https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/z8k33j6
• https://mattsalusbury.blogspot.com/2020/09/the-bells-bells.html
• https://blogs.loc.gov/maps/2020/06/hy-brasil-the-supernatural-island/

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During the Edo period, tales of mysterious yokai prophesying danger began to sweep across Japan. First came the Amabiko, a three-legged monkey-like spirit predicting hard times. Later, off the coast of Higo, stories spread of the Amabie, a strange, glittering creature with three legs, long flowing hair, a bird’s beak, and mermaid scales, surfacing to warn humanity of an impending epidemic.

Over the centuries, the names and shapes shifted, but the core legend remained: a visitor from the deep foretelling doom. While most of these creatures faded into myth, one legend never truly died...

S O U R C E S

• https://yokai.com/ryuuguunotsukai/?srsltid=AfmBOopDp0eMbhF4OvdhPqDzqlhr6G32D67Zh-oPBF-XUv4TqrcOGIqq
• https://kotobank.jp/word/%E7%AB%9C%E5%AE%AE%E4%BC%9D%E8%AA%AC-1607081
• https://note.com/maruyomi4049/n/n5cea87a31c84?hl=en
• https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/18/us/rare-oarfish-california-beach

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Grab a tea, come hang out, and let us know if YOU came across anything in your infinite scroll sessions. In this outtake from the Sea(tember) floor, we chat about the ethics of meat and taxidermy, how Emily has been since baby no.3 came into the world, plus our spooky season watchlist.

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Seatember is back! And so is Emily! This time we set sail to Japan where we take a quick port stop in Japanese maritime folklore with sea dragons, whale cults and giant ocean monks (don't ask) before getting into the strange yet downright chilling folklore of the Funayūrei. These ships full of drowned sailors want one thing: to add to their crew by any means necessary (including using ladles to sink your ship). Tangents include live autopsies, some gushing about Widow's Bay, and why you shouldn't drive a Tesla through a cemetery.

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S O U R C E S:

• https://yokai.com/funayuurei/?srsltid=AfmBOopjItIBCXyrQJKAaVoWhLn85MU2gOsIEPzLyr5HQ5ZuavFMQVml
• https://www.curiousordinary.com/2022/01/funayurei.html
• Hennessy, K., Mitchell, A., Murrell, V., Plowman, F. and Pyke, V. (eds.) (2020) A History Of Ghosts, Spirits And The Supernatural. DK Publishing.
• https://japanesewithyumiko.com/obon-festival-dead-spirits-ancestors
• https://historyofjapan.co.uk/wiki/funa-yurei/
•  https://hyakumonogatari.com/2013/05/10/bakekujira-and-japans-whale-cults/
• https://hyakumonogatari.com/2010/10/28/funa-yurei/
• https://yokai.com/ryuuguunotsukai/?srsltid=AfmBOopDp0eMbhF4OvdhPqDzqlhr6G32D67Zh-oPBF-XUv4TqrcOGIqq
• https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/long-fish-predicts-earthquake-legend
• https://metropolisjapan.com/water-spirits-japanese-folklore/

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A tiny plaque, carved from mammoth ivory was dated to around 30,000 BCE. On its surface, a human figure stands in a pose that some researchers believe represents the constellation Orion. Deep within caves from that same era, paintings depict other familiar celestial forms, like Taurus, occupying the ancient sky then just as they do now. While it is nearly impossible to trace the exact moment our ancestors first looked up and traced these glowing patterns of light, astrology grew directly out of their deep desire to understand the universe and read the will of the gods. Across the globe, early human cultures interpreted the sky through their own unique lenses - tying starry shapes to local flora and fauna, weaving them into existing folk legends, or building brand new myths around the shapes they saw.

S O U R C E S:

• https://www.aglaiaco.com/en-eu/blogs/magazin-1/the-12-zodiac-signs-and-their-elements-complete-astrology-guidesrsltid=AfmBOordw2RvGcZNFOJIZodN81rS4rORT5iA4gex27pg4Q4-gNCBbUF7
• The Planetary Joys and the Origins of the Significations of the Houses and Triplicities By Chris Brennan https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/history-of-horoscopes
• History of the Zodiac B. L. van der Waerden Archiv für Orientforschung, 16. Bd. (1952-1953), pp. 216-230 (15 pages) https://www.thenightsky.com/blog/astrology-and-the-elements?tnscc=IE
• https://www.theoi.com/greek-mythology/star-myths.html

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This is the second of our Feminist History of Astrology with Niamh's bestie Megan. We recap the ancient astrology covered in Part 1 before getting into where it all went south, starting with the moral panic of the Witchcraft laws in Elizabethan England which led to the infamous Witch Trials, the discreditation of Astrology into a fringe pseudoscience practiced by the lower echelons of society, and right through to how it became reputedly the pasttime of bored houswives and gullible women and LGBTQIA+ people. We then navigate the sience behind both why people connect to astrology and the misconceptions held by the scientists who seek to discredit it.

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S O U R C E S:

• “New Age to Post Modern Age: the cultural location of metaphysical belief” - Fiona Smyth, Dublin City University, 2001
• https://www.thetimes.com/uk/science/article/forget-economics-try-astrology-instead-fmf8dqxnrgx
• https://www.russh.com/feminism-and-astrology/
• https://blackthornandstone.com/2020/06/25/clockwork-sky-astrology-in-early-modern-victorian-england/
• https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/astrology-gen-z-star-signs-moon-b2683469.html
• Age of Aquarius
• The English Witchcraft Act of 1563 Revisited* Alexandra Gajda ,George Southcombe
• https://publicdomainreview.org/essay/divining-the-witch-of-york-propaganda-and-prophecy/
• https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-nancy-reagan-astrology-20160306-story.html
• https://libguides.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/law-witch/england

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