Rules of the Frame

Connor & Jon work their way through the madness of the production of The Thief and the Cobbler. They argue over which version feels the most complete, who to blame for what went down, and why is Vincent Price so good in this?

Link to The Animator's Survival Kit: https://www.amazon.com/Animators-Survival-Kit-Richard-Williams/dp/0571202284

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Films mentioned in this episode:

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• The Thief and the Cobbler (1993) | Dir. Richard Williams
• The Magnificent Ambersons (1942) | Dir. Orson Welles
• Greed (1924) | Dir. Erich von Stroheim
• Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988) | Dir.  Robert Zemeckis
• Pete's Dragon (1977) | Dir. Don Chaffey & Don Bluth
• Aladdin (1992) | Dir. Ron Clement & John Musker
• Prologue (2015) | Dir. Richard Williams
• Circus Drawings (2010) | Dir. Richard Williams
• Honey, I Shrunk the Kids (1989) | Dir. Joe Johnston
• The Black Cauldron (1985) | Dir. Ted Berman & Richard Rich
• The Lion King (1994) | Dir. Roger Allens & Rob Minkoff
• The Lion King 1 1/2 (2004) | Dir. Bradley Raymond
• WALL-E (2008) | Dir. Andrew Stanton
• Argo (2012) | Dir. Ben Affleck
• Toy Story (1995) | Dir. John Lasseter
• Jodorowsky's Dune (2013) | Dir. Frank Pavich

Connor & Jon venture back to the Golden Age of Hollywood with Kaden Reed to discover the wonderful word of glitz, glamour, and communism. They discuss what the intentions of the Coen's were behind this film. If this is the closest we'll get to a Coen's 30 Rock episode. And who the biggest idiot in the film is.

Link to Roger Deakins website: https://www.rogerdeakins.com/

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Films mentioned in this episode:

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• Hail, Caesar! (2016) | Dir. Joel & Ethan Coen
• No Country for Old Men (2007) | Dir. Joel & Ethan Coen
• Arrival (2016) | Dir. Denis Villeneuve
• Dr. Zhivago (1965) | Dir. David Lean
• Lawrence of Arabia (1962) | Dir. David Lean
• The Ballad of Buster Scruggs (2018) | Dir. Joel & Ethan Coen
• The Big Lebowski (1998) | Dir. Joel & Ethan Coen
• The Hudsucker Proxy (1994) | Dir. Joel & Ethan Coen
• Inside Llewyn Davis (2013) | Dir. Joel & Ethan Coen
• True Grit (2010) | Dir. Joel & Ethan Coen
• Fargo (1996) | Dir. Joel & Ethan Coen
• La La Land (2016) | Dir. Damien Chazelle
• O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000) | Dir. Joel & Ethan Coen
• Some Like It Hot (1959) | Dir. Billy Wilder
• Sunset Blvd. (1950) | Dir. Billy Wilder
• Raising Arizona (1987) | Dir. Joel & Ethan Coen
• Avengers: Endgame (2019) | Dir. Joe & Anthony Russo
• The Grand Budapest Hotel (2014) | Dir. Wes Anderson
• The Meyerowitz Stories (2017) | Dir. Noah Baumbach
• Mank (2020) | Dir. David Fincher
• A Serious Man (2009) | Dir. Joel & Ethan Coen
• Ishtar (1987) | Dir. Elaine May
• High Noon (1952) | Dir. Fred Zinnemann
• Rio Bravo (1959) | Dir. Howard Hawks
• Barton Fink (1991) | Dir. Joel & Ethan Coen
• Brazil (1985) | Dir. Terry Gilliam
• The Artist (2011) | Dir. Michel Hazanavicius
• Hugo (2011) | Dir. Martin Scorsese
• Saving Mr. Banks (2013) | Dir. John Lee Hancock
• Once Upon a Time... In Hollywood (2019) | Dir. Quentin Tarantino
• Skyfall (2012) | Dir. Sam Mendes
• Foxcatcher (2014) | Dir. Bennett Miller
• The Disaster Artist (2017) | Dir. James Franco
• An Alan Smithee Film: Burn Hollywood Burn (1997) | Dir. Arthur Hiller and Alan Smithee
• The Farewell (2019) | Dir. Lulu Wang
• Posthumous (2014) | Dir. Lulu Wang

Connor & Jon start off fighting to try to get people to reconsider the box office bomb that is John Carter. Both of the boys are quite passionate about it and lay out their own reasons as to why they think it failed in theaters.  They also appreciate Stanton's top notch directing, Willem Dafoe's incredible performance, and how well the CG has held up.  

WARNING: Major spoilers for John Carter and Game of Thrones

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Films mentioned in this episode:

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• John Carter (2012) | Dir. Andrew Stanton
• Star Wars (1977) | Dir. George Lucas
• Lawrence of Arabia (1962) | Dir. David Lean
• Ishtar (1987) | Dir. Elaine May
• WALL-E (2008) | Dir. Andrew Stanton
• Finding Dory (2016) | Dir. Andrew Stanton
• Avatar (2009) | Dir. James Cameron
• Cowboys & Aliens (2011) | Dir. Jon Favreau
• Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (2003) | Dir. Gore Verbinski
• The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (2005) | Dir. Andrew Adamson
• The Sorcerer's Apprentice (2010) | Dir. Jon Turteltaub
• Alice in Wonderland (2010) | Dir. Tim  Burton
• The Lone Ranger (2013) | Dir. Gore Verbinski
• Atlantis: The Lost Empire (2001) | Dir. Gary Trousdale, Kirk Wise
• The Princess and the Frog (2009) | Dir. Ron Clements & John Musker
• Tangled (2010) | Dir. Nathan Greno & Byron Howard
• The Avengers (2012) | Dir. Joss Whedon
• 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (1954) | Dir. Richard Fleischer
• The Black Hole (1979) | Dir. Gary Nelson
• Aliens (1986) | Dir. James Cameron
• Tron Legacy (2010) | Dir. Joseph Kosinski
• Mars Needs Moms (2011) | Dir. Simon Wells
• The Shaggy Dog (2006) | Dir. Brian Robbins
• The Secret of Kells (2009) | Dir. Tomm Moore & Nora Twomey
• The Martian (2015) | Dir. Ridley Scott
• Godzilla vs. Kong (2021) | Dir. Adam Wingard
• The Mummy (2017) | Dir. Alex Kurtzman
• The Lord of the Rings Trilogy (2001-2003) | Dir. Peter Jackson
• The Hobbit Trilogy (2012-2014) | Dir. Peter Jackson
• A Series of Unfortunate Events (2004) | Dir. Brad Silberling
• The Man From U.N.C.L.E. (2015) | Dir. Guy Ritchie

Connor & Jon introduce their new series on what they call messy masterpieces. They will be covering films that they deem exceptional pieces of cinema that might have been overlooked or overshadowed by other films of the same director.

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Connor & Jon are dragged into the Sandler-verse by their friend Connor Gooderl to discuss possibly the worst film of the 2010s. Is this film even worth meriting an episode? Why do Sandler's movies always make so much money? Can this craze every be stopped...probably not (Also Connor gets poisoned by a Dunkaccino.)

WARNING: Major spoilers for Jack and Jill

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Films mentioned in this episode:

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• Jack and Jill (2011) | Dir. Dennis Dugan
• The Lighthouse (2019) | Dir. Robert Eggers
• Inception (2010) | Dir. Christopher Nolan
• The Room (2003) | Dir. Tommy Wiseau
• Battlefield Earth (2000) | Dir. Roger Christian
• Plan 9 From Outer Space (1957) | Dir. Edward D. Wood Jr.
• Vampire's Kiss (1988) | Dir. Robert Bierman
• Grown Ups (2010) | Dir. Dennis Dugan
• The Cobbler (2014) | Dir. Tom McCarthy
• Norbit (2007) | Dir. Brian Robbins
• Happy Gilmore (1996) | Dir. Dennis Dugan
• Big Daddy (1999) | Dir. Dennis Dugan
• Grown Ups 2 (2013) | Dir. Dennis Dugan
• Click (2006) | Dir. Frank Coraci
• Uncut Gems (2019) | Dir. Josh & Benny Safdie
• When Harry Met Sally...(1989) | Dir. Rob Reiner
• The Waterboy (1998) | Dir. Frank Coraci
• Murder Mystery (2019) | Dir. Kyle Newacheck
• Zookeeper (2011) | Dir. Frank Coraci
• Here Comes the Boom (2012) | Dir. Frank Coraci
• Paul Blart: Mall Cop (2009) | Dir. Steve Carr
• The Emperor's New Groove (2000) | Dir. Mark Dindal
• Joe Dirt (2001) | Dir. Dennie Gordon
• Punch-Drunk Love (2002) | Dir. Paul Thomas Anderson
• The Hotel Transylvania Trilogy (2012-2018) | Dir. Genndy Tartakovsky
• The Meyerowitz Stories (2017) | Dir. Noah Baumbach
• The Secret Life of Walter Mitty (2013) | Dir. Ben Stiller
• Hubie Halloween (2020) | Dir. Steven Brill
• Jurassic Park (1993) | Dir. Steven Spielberg
• Halloween (1978) | Dir. John Carpenter
• Pixels (2015) | Dir. Chris Columbus
• The Nutty Professor (1996) | Dir. Tom Shadyac

Connor & Jon decide to take the plunge into Malick's magnum opus and bring on their good friend Clayton Lyon to join in this celebration of life. Connor reminisces over this film's influence on his thesis film, Clayton gawks over Lubezki's cinematography, and Jon just can't get enough of those sweet space shots.

WARNING: Major spoilers for The Tree of Life

Link to Rehearsing the Unexpected: https://www.amazon.com/Terrence-Malick-Daniele-Villa-author/dp/0571334709/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3JEVO1A6UMYAH&dchild=1&keywords=terrence+malick+rehearsing+the+unexpected&qid=1621173575&sprefix=rehearsing+the+u%2Caps%2C152&sr=8-1

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Films mentioned in this episode:

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• The Tree of Life (2011) | Dir. Terrence Malick
• Knight of Cups (2015) | Dir. Terrence Malick
• The Lighthouse (2019) | Dir. Robert Eggers
• Boyhood (2014) | Dir. Richard Linklater
• Badlands (1973) | Dir. Terrence Malick
• Days of Heaven (1978) | Dir. Terrence Malick
• The New World (2005) | Dir. Terrence Malick
• Salome (2013) | Dir. Al Pacino
• Inception (2010) | Dir. Christopher Nolan
• Dinosaur (2000) | Dir. Eric Leighton & Ralph Zondag
• The Thin Red Line (1998) | Dir. Terrence Malick
• Song to Song (2017) | Dir. Terrence Malick
• 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) | Dir. Stanley Kubrick
• Voyage of Time (2016) | Dir. Terrence Malick

Connor & Jon are stranded, but thankfully they have their good friend Elise Yeomans to keep them company. While being stuck in isolation they ponder over what the true nature of the foghorn is, Jon's metric that makes this the greatest film of all time, and are boxier aspect ratios the way of the future? Sometimes a lighthouse is just a lighthouse...but not this time.

WARNING: Major spoilers for The Lighthouse & Cast Away

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Films mentioned in this episode:

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• The Lighthouse (2019) | Dir. Robert Eggers
• 12 Angry Men (1957) | Dir. Sidney Lumet
• Ishtar (1987) | Dir. Elaine May
• The Black Cauldron (1985) | Dir. Ted Berman & Richard Rich
• Zack Snyder's Justice League (2021) | Dir. Zack Snyder
• The VVitch (2015) | Dir. Robert Eggers
• Robin Hood (2018) | Dir. Otto Bathurst
• Cast Away (2000) | Dir. Robert Zemeckis
• The Twilight Saga (2008-2012) | Dir. Catherine Hardwicke, Chris Weitz, David Slade & Bill Condon
• Good Time (2017) | Dir. Josh & Benny Safdie
• Inception (2010) | Dir. Christopher Nolan
• Blazing Saddles (1974) | Dir. Mel Brooks
• Into the Wild (2007) | Dir. Sean Penn
• The Grey (2011) | Dir. Joe Carnahan
• The Celebration (1998) | Dir. Thomas Vinterberg
• The Invitation (2015) | Dir. Karyn Kusama
• The Perfect Host (2010) | Dir. Nick Tomnay
• St. Elmo's Fire (1985) | Dir. Joel Schumacher
• Aquaman (2018) | Dir. James Wan
• Suicide Squad (2016) | Dir. David Ayer
• The Magnificent Ambersons (1942) | Dir. Orson Welles, Fred Fleck & Robert Wise
• The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007) | Dir. Andrew Dominik
• Journey to the Center of the Earth (1959) | Dir. Henry Levin
• The Big Lebowski (1998) | Dir. Joel & Ethan Coen
• Promising Young Woman (2020) | Dir. Emerald Fennell

Connor & Jon discuss their pick for the most impactful film of the 2010's with their good friend Luke Hogan. Together they discuss the impact this film had on their lives and social circles, as well as how it's impacted society as a whole. Plus it also gave us one of the greatest apps ever created, R.I.P.

WARNING: Major spoilers for Inception, minor spoilers for Shutter Island & The Big Lebowski

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Films mentioned in this episode:

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• Inception (2010) | Dir. Christopher Nolan
• Mad Max Fury Road (2015) | Dir. George Miller
• Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015) | Dir. J.J. Abrams
• Apocalypse, Now (1979) | Dir. Francis Ford Coppola
• Shutter Island (2010) | Dir. Martin Scorsese
• Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004) | Dir. Michael Gondry
• Gravity (2013) | Dir.  Alfonso Cuaron
• Insomnia (2002) | Dir. Christopher Nolan
• The Big Lebowski (1998) | Dir. Joel & Ethan Coen
• The Dark Knight Trilogy (2005 - 2012) | Dir. Christopher Nolan
• The Sixth Sense (1999) | Dir. M. Night Shyamalan
• Memento (2000) | Dir. Christopher Nolan
• The Prestige (2006) | Dir. Christopher Nolan
• Tenet (2020) | Dir. Christopher Nolan
• Following (1998) | Dir. Christopher Nolan
• Donnie Darko (2001) | Dir. Richard Kelly
• Dunkirk (2017) | Dir. Christopher Nolan
• 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) | Dir. Stanley Kubrick
• Star Wars  (1977) | Dir. George Lucas
• Source Code (2011) | Dir. Duncan Jones
• Avengers: Endgame (2019) | Dir. Joe & Anthony Russo
• 1917 (2019) | Dir. Sam Mendes
• Looper (2012) | Dir. Rian Johnson
• Her (2013) | Dir. Spike Jonze
• Ex Machina (2014) | Dir. Alex Garland
• Total Recall (1990) | Dir. Paul Verhoeven
• Casino Royale (2006) | Dir. Martin Campbell
• Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) | Dir. Zack Snyder

Connor & Jon fly in Clare Warrington to discuss Alfonso Cuaron's deeply personal blockbuster: Gravity. Clare lends her expertise in the field of grief and loss to evaluate Ryan Stone's emotional journey. Jon gushes about this being the best filmgoing experience he's ever had. And Connor can't stop obsessing about the technical achievements this film accomplishes.

WARNING: Major spoilers for Gravity, Ad Astra, & Interstellar

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Films mentioned in this episode:

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• Gravity (2013) | Dir. Alfonso Cuaron
• Avengers: Endgame (2019) | Dir. Joe & Anthony Russo
• Ordinary People (1980) | Dir. Robert Redford
• Silence (2016) | Dir. Martin Scorsese
• Roma (2018) | Dir. Alfonso Cuaron
• Armageddon (1998) | Dir. Michael Bay
• Great Expectations (1998) | Dir. Alfonso Cuaron
• A Little Princess (1995) | Dir. Alfonso Cuaron
• Y Tu Mama Tambien (2001) | Dir.  Alfonso Cuaron
• Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (2004) | Dir. Alfonso Cuaron
• Children of Men (2006) | Dir. Alfonso Cuaron
• 12 Years a Slave (2013) | Dir. Steve McQueen
• Avatar (2009) | Dir. James Cameron
• Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (2005) | Dir. Tim Burton
• Zack Snyder's Justice League (2021) | Dir. Zack Snyder
• Thor:  Ragnarok (2017) | Dir. Taika Waititi
• 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) | Dir. Stanley Kubrick
• Solaris (1972) | Dir. Andrei Tarkovsky
• First Man (2018) | Dir. Damien Chazelle
• Apollo 13 (1995) | Dir. Ron Howard
• Inception (2010) | Dir. Christopher Nolan
• Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999) | Dir. George Lucas
• The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012) | Dir. Peter Jackson
• Miss Congeniality (2000) | Dir. Donald Petrie
• While You Were Sleeping (1995) | Dir. Jon Turtletaub
• O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000) | Dir. Joel & Ethan Coen
• Moon (2009) | Dir. Duncan Jones
• Two Weeks Notice (2002) | Dir. Marc Lawrence
• Rope (1948) | Dir. Alfred Hitchcock
• 1917 (2019) | Dir. Sam Mendes
• Ad Astra (2019) | Dir. James Gray
• Interstellar (2014) | Dir. Christopher Nolan
• WALL-E (2008) | Dir. Andrew Stanton
• Contact (1997) | Dir. Robert Zemeckis

Connor & Jon bring in their old friend, Hank Black, to dig deep into the Marvel fandom and explore the superhero phenomena. They discuss whether this film deserves to be in the echelon of highest grossing films and what the future of the MCU after this.  

WARNING: Major spoilers for Avengers: Endgame & Doctor Strange, minor spoilers for Aquaman

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Films mentioned in this episode:

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• Avengers: Endgame (2019) | Dir. Joe & Anthony Russo
• Avengers (2012) | Dir. Joss Whedon
• Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017) | Dir. Jon Watts
• Avengers: Infinity War (2018) | Dir. Joe & Anthony Russo
• The Dark Knight Trilogy (2005-2012) | Dir. Christopher Nolan
• Logan (2017) | Dir. James Mangold
• X-Men: Days of Future Past (2014) | Dir. Bryan Singer
• Captain Marvel (2019) | Dir. Anna Boden, Ryan Fleck
• Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015) | Dir. Joss Whedon
• Iron Man 2 (2010) | Dir. Jon Favreau
• Thor (2011) | Dir. Kenneth Branagh
• Captain America: The First Avenger (2011) | Dir. Joe Johnston
• Iron Man (2008) | Dir. Jon Favreau
• Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015) | Dir. J.J. Abrams
• Star Wars: Episode  VIII - The Last Jedi (2017) | Dir. Rian Johnson
• Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (2019) | Dir. J.J. Abrams
• Iron Man 3 (2013) | Dir. Shane Black
• Captain America: Civil War (2016) | Dir. Joe & Anthony Russo
• Thor: Ragnarok (2017) | Dir. Taika Waititi
• Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) | Dir. James Gunn
• Ant-Man (2015) | Dir. Peyton Reed
• Aquaman (2018) | Dir. James Wan
• Thor: The Dark World (2013) | Dir. Alan Taylor
• Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017) | Dir. James Gunn
• Dolittle (2020) | Dir. Stephen Gaghan
• Doctor Strange (2016) | Dir. Scott Derrickson
• Back to the Future (1985) | Dir. Robert Zemeckis
• Hot Tub Time Machine (2010) | Dir. Steve Pink
• Primer (2004) | Dir. Shane Carruth
• Tenet (2020) | Dir. Christopher Nolan
• Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer (2007) | Dir. Tim Story
• Fantastic Four (2015) | Dir. Josh Trank & Stephen E. Rivkin
• Black Panther (2018) | Dir. Ryan Coogler
• The Hobbit Trilogy (2012-2014) | Dir. Peter Jackson
• Avatar (2009) | Dir. James Cameron
• Ready Player One (2018) | Dir. Steven Spielberg
• Transformers (2007) | Dir. Michael Bay
• Titanic (1997) | Dir. James Cameron