In this episode of the Ruminations podcast, host Bobby Gill is joined by Dr. Paige Stanley from Colorado State University to dive deep into the science of soil health on grazing lands. They explore the latest research on carbon sequestration in arid and semi-arid rangelands, discuss the significance of different types of organic matter in carbon permanence, and introduce a new framework for understanding how grazing management affects soil carbon accumulation. The conversation also touches on the mental models of holistic managers and the potential of regenerative grazing to mitigate climate change. Tune in to learn more about Dr. Stanley's interdisciplinary approach and groundbreaking work in rangeland ecosystems.

Dr. Paige Stanley is an interdisciplinary scientist at Colorado State University, exploring how regenerative grazing can unlock soil’s carbon-storing potential and foster climate resilience.

In this episode of @SavoryInstitute’s Ruminations podcast, Dr. Stanley joins us to explore:

- How Regenerative Grazing Affects Soil Carbon in Arid Rangelands

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00:55 Introducing Dr. Paige Stanley

03:55 Dr. Stanley's Research on AMP Grazing

08:01 Understanding Soil Carbon Dynamics

13:27 Challenges in Soil Carbon Research

21:42 Exploring Soil Texture and Carbon Sequestration

28:37 Adaptive Multi-Paddock Grazing vs. Holistic Management

32:44 Ruminating on Soil Carbon: A New Framework

39:23 Upcoming Savory Journey to Zimbabwe

39:55 Earth Day Giveaway Details

40:53 Understanding Grazing Categories

44:30 Mechanisms of Under and Overgrazing

50:37 Challenges in Soil Carbon Research

56:19 Feasibility of Soil Carbon Measurement for Ranchers

01:04:20 Technological Advances in Soil Science

01:10:51 Holistic Management and Adaptive Grazing

01:18:43 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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In the inaugural episode of the Ruminations podcast, host Bobby Gill sits down with Allan Savory, the renowned founder of Holistic Management and the Savory Institute. The conversation explores Allan’s adventurous beginnings as a young game ranger in southern Africa, his time in military leadership, politics, and ecological research—all unfolding during a transformative period in global history.

This episode highlights how a unique convergence of circumstances—colonial collapse, ecological degradation, and Allan’s cross-disciplinary career—created the conditions for the development of Holistic Management. Allan shares how insights from tracking, land stewardship, and systems thinking challenged conventional science and laid the foundation for a groundbreaking framework that has since changed the way we understand and manage complexity in agriculture.

We also get a preview of Allan’s forthcoming memoir, which captures the rich backstory behind one of the most influential ecological movements of our time.

In this premiere episode of @SavoryInstitute’s Ruminations podcast, Allan joins host Bobby Gill to reflect on:

- How a Young Game Ranger Became a Global Voice for Regeneration

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00:09 Allan Savory's Early Adventures

01:31 The Birth of Holistic Management

02:03 Allan's Memoir and Life Reflections

02:37 A Peek into Allan's Study

04:30 Diverse Career and Early Influences

09:25 Challenges and Insights in Wildlife Management

12:40 The Concept of Holistic Management

27:48 Contributions of Jan Smuts and André Voisin

47:03 Military Influence on Holistic Planning

51:53 Introduction to Holistic Management

53:43 The Importance of Livestock in Holistic Grazing

56:39 The Influence of John Acox

01:06:41 Early Career and Wildlife Passion

01:16:17 Tracking and Ecology Insights

01:23:52 Advanced Tracking Techniques

01:32:18 Connecting Ecology and Wildlife Management

01:33:30 The Hippo in the Swamp

01:41:28 The Monkwala Talisman

01:47:38 Rhodesian History and Ian Smith

01:53:18 Racial Tensions and Personal Growth

02:08:32 The Controversy of Elephant Culling

02:14:03 Holistic Management and Future Hopes

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