Are you iOS, Android, or Stoic? In this episode of Simplify, hear bestselling author and master of controversy, Ryan Holiday, talk about finding your personal operating system and using it to focus and fuel the work you love to do.

Holiday and Caitlin discuss some of the secrets of media marketing, and then dive into Holiday's other passion: philosophy. He also has great advice on finding your fans, applying abstract theory to real life, and becoming OK with saying “I don’t know.”

After the interview, Ben Schuman-Stoler joins Caitlin to make a booklist for anyone who wants to read further into the topics Holiday discusses. Spoiler alert: 50 Cent is involved.

For more info, including links to everything we discussed in the episode and a voucher to use Blinkist for free, go to https://www.blinkist.com/magazine/posts/simplify-philosophy-ryan-holiday.

You can also send us a voice memo at [email protected]. We'd love to hear what you learned was easier or simpler than you initially thought it was.

If you want to tweet to us, Caitlin is @CaitlinSchiller and Ben is @bsto. Say hi!

That excellent music you heard is by Nico Guiang. You can find more of it on Soundcloud and Facebook.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.