This is Get Up in the Cool Episode 4: A New Hope. This is actually the first episode I recorded, and I’m so glad that my first guest was the mischievous and charismatic Ryland Burhans. He was the very first person to respond when I began to look for guests, and he’s a real chatty Cathy, so that was helpful, because I had never interviewed anyone before. If you want to support the show and access bonus content, click here: https://www.patreon.com/getupinthecool