Joan Sammon and Alma Cook work with oil companies in North Dakota. In this conversation, I ask them why the heck gas costs so much. The answer didn't make me happy with US Energy policy.

Joan's writing: https://joansammon.substack.com 

Alma's singing: https://sptfy.com/almacook  

@Alma Cook  's song "5000 Candles" https://youtu.be/fijEKS49DU0 

Find Alma and Joan on twitter at @HearAlma and @sammonsays, respectively.  

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