This episode of The Matador Revisionist History Podcast honors Fucked Up’s epic rock opera, David Comes to Life (2011), which first hit shelves 10 years ago last June.

Here band members Jonah Falco (Mr. Jo), Sandy Miranda (Mustard Gas), and Josh Zucker (Gulag) look back on the early ’10s with friend and tour-mate Patrick Stickles (Titus Andronicus), himself no stranger to punk rock concept albums. Discussion is nudged along by our host, Matt Sweeney.

Their chat yields insight into the writing and recording of David Comes to Life, but also entertaining tangents on composer Jim Steinman’s lewd oblique strategies, roady-ing as a path to physical fitness, and the secret to Fucked Up’s longevity (“If anybody tries to grow and do something better, tear them down”).