Both Joe and David have nasty colds at the moment and feeling pretty rubbish. So they kick things off by discussing their illnesses, taking sickies, joe’s tactics for getting more holiday days at his old job and what it means to be a sociopath. Then, after wondering why they bother podding when ill, Joe challenges David to make the episode a double bubble. So they plough on with the chat - part two will be coming to you tomorrow.  Apologies for all the coughing and sniffing!

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