Heather Baron-Gracie, lead singer and guitarist of Pale Waves, joins the show! Heather discusses the new album, touring with 5 Seconds of Summer, life in the UK versus the US, the inspiration behind Heather's songwriting, and the band's eclectic fanbase. In the recap Will and Jimmie resonate with Heather as a writer and talk how heartbreak results in some of the best art.