Welcome to Confessions of an Implementer, a podcast by Talent Harbor.

We share unique stories of implementers and the companies they’ve transformed to give you a rare glimpse into the system's successes and challenges. I'm your host, Ryan Hogan.

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In this episode, I sit down with Curt Swindoll, an EOS Implementer, who shares why great leadership starts with purpose, not profit. From defining an organization’s “why” to leading with care instead of fear, he explains how strong values, clear focus, and consistent action inspire real commitment. Hear how building a purpose driven culture not only attracts passionate talent but also creates lasting impact that goes far beyond the bottom line.

03:02 Why Nonprofits vs. For-Profits

06:40 Finding Transcendent Purpose in Business

12:19 Drivers of Business: Beyond Money

15:53 Experiences, Memories & Business Purpose

19:10 Balancing Purpose and Profit

23:53 Talent Harbor Ad Break

25:15 Culture: More Than Wall Art

32:25 Purpose in Difficult Decisions

35:57 Values: More Than Words

41:34 Repeating Core Messages

43:04 Communication and Action Alignment

47:08 Inclusion and Company as Family

49:49 Love and Fear in Leadership

55:52 EOS Implementer’s Diverse Focus

59:33 Becoming a Transformative Leader

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