Katie visits American River College to chat with Audubon California’s Pelayo Alvarez,  the Director of the Conservation Ranching Program in Sacramento. This episode is a conversation on what Audubon California’s Conservation Ranching Program is and how Audubon California working with ranchers. Katie and Pelayo also talk through some misconceptions about ranchers and ones ranchers have about Audubon, the importance of California rangelands and more.

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