That's What I Call Marketing

S3 Ep43: Video LOVES The Radio Star


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A two part episode coming from Radiocentre featuring Andrew Tindall and Steve Keller.


Andrew Tindall is Senior Vice President of Global Partnerships of System1, where he works with the world’s largest brands, creative agencies and media owners to put marketing effectiveness at the core of their businesses.. He is a prolific author, posting on LinkedIn every day & writing for the Drum whenever he gets a chance it seems. With access both to a huge effectiveness database and colleagues like Orlando Wood and Jon Evans he is able to offer great value to his legion of followers, often talking about OOH advertising.


Steve Keller is Sonic Strategy Director at Studio Resonate/SiriusXM Media and is widely regarded as the leading expert in the field of sonic branding. With over two decades of experience at the intersection of sound, branding, and behavioural science, Steve combines creative expertise with a deep understanding of the psychology of sound to craft audio identities for some of the world’s most recognisable brands.


Part One

Andrew and Conor chat about their shared a deep passion for radio as a medium with immense storytelling power and efficiency. They discuss the concept of 'Theatre of the Mind,' emphasising audio's potential for creating long and short-term effects. We talk about this Weetabix ad & how it is a great example of creative effectiveness and how enduring ideas can come to life across various channels and in this instance not need branding up front. The discussion also covers the intricacies of fame in branding, emphasising the importance of brands creating their own iconic figures rather than relying on external celebrities. We talk about left-brain and right-brain advertising and finally talk about the recent research on creative consistency.


Part Two

Steve joins Conor to delve into fascinating audio insights, likeas how hip-hop music can affect the flavour of cheese, which was part of a Cheez-It promotion that highlights the power of sound. Steve talks through the importance of having a robust sonic strategy for brands, noting the ubiquity and resilience of audio in everyday life. We talk about how brands should consider the 'universe of sound' beyond traditional radio or sonic branding, emphasising the importance of intentional sound use in creating brand memory and distinctiveness. The discussion also touches on the potential and challenges of AI in audio branding, considering implications such as regulation and the need for human involvement. Steve concludes with six key parameters for successful sonic branding.


03:12 The Power of Radio Advertising

04:34 Creative Storytelling in Ads

08:04 The Fame Factor in Branding

11:51 Understanding Left and Right Brain Advertising

19:57 The Love for Irish Radio

20:49 The Power of Local Radio

22:29 Creative Consistency in Advertising

23:43 The Launch of Compound Creativity

26:06 The Importance of Consistency in Branding

27:11 The Role of Metrics in Marketing

29:26 The Debate on Gated Content

31:08 The Viral Marketing Stunt

31:41 The Fashion Collaboration Offer

35:00 Introduction and Setting the Scene

35:26 A Memorable New Year's Eve in Ireland

37:20 The Science of Sound and Cheese

40:16 Exploring the Universe of Sound

43:31 The Power of Sonic Branding

44:48 Crafting a Sonic Identity

57:35 The Role of AI in Audio Advertising

61:26 Regulation and the Future of AI Voices

65:27 Six Parameters for Successful Sonic Brands

71:23 Conclusion and Reflections on Audio's Impact

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