Sorry about the hollow, haunted sound here—we were all in separate spaces recording it! A Venezuelan señora will have plants and cats with mysterious gifts, Alice recommends some crime novels everyone knows of already, and yet another great podcast idea is born. After the paywall, we talk "Second Skin," a delicious Kira-centric episode where Nana Visitor is pumped for all her acting juices.

Listen to full episodes over on the Treks and the City Patreon!!

Find more Alice here!!

And More Vero here!!

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices