Mike Rudd - the man who created the rock classic I'll Be Gone - joins us for a chat about his life and times through Spectrum, The Indelible Murtceps and Ariel and he is still gigging and making music. Also still making great music is Lloyd Cole, who has a new album On Pain. From his attic recording studio Lloyd talks about the album and lots more including the influence of Iggy, Bowie and T-Rex.     

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