Esther's flying solo this week while Jane's away to interview the fabulous Rachel de Thample - who is in charge of fermentation and bees at River Cottage.

Hear all about how to make your own sauerkraut, the Bees at River Cottage and how Esther rates husband Tom's mead!

For more on Rachel follow her at @dethample and River Cottage @rivercottagehq to find out more about her fermentation courses.

Queen Bees is a Hat Trick podcast - follow us @queenbeespod on instagram for more pictures from the show.

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