Elon Musk is different than prior American business tycoons. Arguably, he is more powerful. More poignantly, as my guest argues, he is less dedicated to democracy, and that makes him frighteningly more dangerous.

In this interview, I discuss the following with my guest scholar:

►Who was Andrew Carnegie?

►How was he similar to Musk?

►How was Carnegie - once the richest man in the world - different than Musk?

►What was Carnegie's political relationship with Washington and his outlook for America?

►Who was William Randolph Hearst?

►How was his promotional reach bigger than Musk's?

►Was Hearst a Nazi?

►How was Hearst's relationship with politics and Washington different than Musk's?

►How did Hearst finally get into trouble with the people?

►Who was Joseph P. Kennedy?

►How did he make his money? In what aspects was he similar to Musk?

►Was Kennedy a Nazi sympathizer?

►How was Kennedy's relationship with FDR different than Musk's relationship with Pres. Trump?

🚩About My Guest:My guest is Dr. David Nasaw, a distinguished professor of History at the CUNY Graduate Center. He has authored many books, including the following that we discuss in this interview

• The Chief, the biography of Willian Randolph Hearst, which won the Bancroft Prize,
• Andrew Carnegie, a Pulitzer Prize finalist and also the winner of the New-York Historical Society Prize in American History, and
• The Patriarch: The Remarkable Life and Turbulent Times of Joseph P. Kennedy, a Pulitzer Prize finalist and chosen by the New York Times as one of the best five non-fiction books of the year.

🚩Other Mentioned Interviews:

🎧 S4E22: ⁠Here is my interview with Prof. Lawrence Lessig about Elon Musk, Dark Money in our politics, and Super PACs.

🚩Image attribution:

►Center: United States Air Force Academy, Colorado. -- Tesla Chief Executive Officer Elon Musk poses for a photograph with U.S. Air Force Academy Cadets in Mitchell Hall during a tour hosted by Superintendent Lt. Gen. Richard Clark on April 7, 2022. Musk met with Academy senior leadership and delivered remarks to a crowd of cadets and faculty. (U.S. Air Force photo by Justin R. Pacheco). Public Domain.

►Left: Andrew Carnegie. By Harris & Ewing, photographer - Library of Congress Catalog. Public Domain.

►Center: Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr., when he was the United States Ambassador to Great Britain. Public Domain

►Right: William Randolph Hearst. By Anonymous. Public Domain

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