Pres. Trump is not the first U.S. president to have strained relations with America's courts, including our Highest Court - the Supreme Court of the United States. In fact, more than one U.S. president has openly expressed his personal animosity toward one or more Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court.

In this interview, I discuss the following with Dr. Barbara Perry:

►Our Founding Years:

-U.S. Constitution, Washington & Adams

-Jefferson and Chief Justice Marshall (that malignity!)

-Marbury v. Madison (you learned about this case in high school)

►The Jackson Era:

-Jackson & Marshall

-Jackson & Chief Justice Taney

►The Civil War:

-Lincoln & Taney

►The New Deal:

-FDR & Court-packing (The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse)

►Watergate:

-Nixon and his tapes

►The Trump Era:

-historical perspective to what's happening now

►The Miller Center:

-its mission and activities

►The White House Historical Association:

-its mission and activities

🚩About My Guest:

Dr. Barbara Perry is the 165th guest scholar of my two podcast programs. She is the J. Wilson Newman Professor of Governance and co-director of the Presidential Oral History Program at the Miller Center, which is affiliated with the University of Virginia. She has authored or edited 17 books on presidents, First Ladies, the Kennedy family, the Supreme Court, and civil rights and civil liberties. She has conducted more than 140 interviews for the Presidential Oral History Projects of (1) George H. W. Bush, (2) George W. Bush, and (3) Barack Obama. She has also participated in the Bill Clinton interviews.

Dr. Perry directs the Edward Kennedy Oral History Project; and co-directs the Hillary Rodham Clinton Oral History Project. She served as a U.S. Supreme Court fellow and has worked for both Republican and Democratic members of the U.S. Senate. She now serves on (1) the board of directors of the White House Historical Association, (2) the board of trustees of the Supreme Court Historical Society, (3) the advisory board of the John F. Kennedy Presidential Library Foundation, and (4) the board of the Friends of the John F. Kennedy National Historic Site.

🚩Other Mentioned Interviews:

►An Immigration Power Not Used By Any President - Until Pres. Trump!

Listen to my podcast interview with Prof. Adam Cox, coauthor of "The President and Immigration Law": https://bit.ly/HbN-S5E17-POTUS-ImmigrationLaw

🚩Adel Aali

host & producer

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