Nate Puccini, the Executive Pastor at Substance Church in Minneapolis, Minnesota, discussed his walk to returning to the Church, his views on serving, and how to focus your life to see God and your pastor. Through his story, the relationship between Jonathan and David, and some real talk about walking out the call on our lives, we get to learn how to refocus our perspective on serving and leading.

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