Conversational Counseling

S7 Ep. 1 / Counseling is Story Work


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What makes a good story? If we think of our favorite stories, we’ll start to notice a pattern. Many of these books or movies present the journey of a hero with a redemptive arc because God has hardwired a love for this kind of tale into our hearts. 

And yet, many of us also know all too well the ache of a longing unfulfilled, the story that doesn’t have a bow on the end. The struggles we face in our lives are pieces of our story. When we recognize God’s greater story, the Grand Narrative, we can place ours and others’ seasons of suffering within that larger narrative. As we learn to honestly share our own stories, we’re able to recognize the lies we’ve been told and learn to hope in His plan for our story.

One day, our longing for resolution will be resolved in eternity, but for now, we can trust in Him as the hero of our story, no matter how messy it gets. In this season, Brenda, Alex, and their guests will share real counseling situations where they used story work to find healing in the midst of brokenness.


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Our theme music is by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠As Isaac⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

This podcast is made possible by engineers and producers ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Zachary Tate Smith⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Shane Selby⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, executive producer ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Meleah Smith⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠generous donors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.


⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Known Ministries⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alex Kocher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and Brenda Payne.

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