Jane and Esther are joined by the founder of LUSH Mark Constantine and his son Simon Constantine, one time subject of his dad's cosmetic testing and now running the fabulous Carey's Secret Garden as well as special projects for LUSH.

There's talk inevitably of the joy of bath bombs, and how they were developed for a serious reason, as well as all the work LUSH does in terms of supporting action for change (for the better) and spearheading fantastic conservation projects. All with a liberal sprinkling of fun anecdotes along the way.

Queen Bees with Jane Horrocks and Esther Coles is a Hat Trick Podcast

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