In leaving the Green Party, Saoirse McHugh did what she always said that she would do, which is rare in Irish Politics. She joined us to talk about it all. We discuss the last few years, the bullying and battles within the Greens, the new Just Transition Greens grouping, the anger she invokes in the Centrist Dads and why she believes that democracy means a lot more than ticking a box every 4 or 5 years.

Thanks Saoirse.

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