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Scope legislation: pushing the government


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“Legislation and practice aren’t necessarily keeping up with the universities,” says a leading pharmacy student, discussing the future of the sector

Sebastian Harper, national president at the National Australian Pharmacy Students’ Association (NAPSA), chats with AJP Podcast host Carlene McMaugh about scope of practice, the importance of making pharmacy friends and placement poverty.

Harper says that universities are already ahead of the game when it comes to expansion of pharmacy practice.

“I think things like legislation and practise aren’t necessarily keeping up with the universities,” he says.

“The unis are pretty much almost there with having graduates ready to get out there and adapt to the new scope of practice for pharmacists, but it’s the legislation, it’s the scope of practice programs.”

While some states are ahead of others, “some are falling a bit behind,” he warns.

“And it’s actually, I think, students that are really ready to undertake these services. Obviously, we do need that extra training, but compared to the pharmacists who graduated 20 years ago, not as much extra training and not as much extra knowledge and skill with what we’re learning.

“It’s really about the profession actually continuing to push the government, continuing to push each other to make sure that practise actually is adapting to what students are ready to do from graduation and from when they finish internship.”

Highlights include:

00:56 – Discussing placement poverty with decision-makers

02:45 – Talking to patients in full scope consultations

05:42 – Skill gaps between study and practice

07:21 – Stories from NAPSA Congress

09:14 – The surprise changes of 2025

11:00 – NAPSA goals

14:23 – “Students don’t necessarily realise the power that they have in their profession.”

17:28 – Core competencies needed for future success

21:29 – NAPSA’s long-term vision

25:32 – The most-needed skill in 2026

26:55 – A deeper look at placement poverty

29:21 – Key questions when interviewing for an internship

32:31 – Staying centred during internship

34:48 – “Get involved in NAPSA.”

You can access the full transcript of this podcast here. While we endeavour to ensure all important words and phrases are correct, please note there may be some minor inaccuracies in the transcription.

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