Seek Safely

Dr. Glenn and Jean chat with Eva Collins about her experience in the self-help/online coaching/wellness world, why she left her coaching business, and what it has been like pushing back against unethical practices and teachers in these industries. 

About Eva Collins:

Eva is the creator of the Instagram account and podcast called "why don't you say something.”

After 20 years in the spiritual, self help, and yoga world and 8 years working as an online coach, she started to see so many issues in the industry and made an account speaking up about it.

She realized some of the things she was learning and teaching around spirituality and online business, were harmful and unethical and weren't a match for her or her values anymore. She quit her coaching business a year and a half ago and now works at a community health care center, and creates content bringing awareness to the harms of the industry.

She has trainings in Reiki, mediumship, NLP coaching, is a certified Holistic Health Coach, and 750 HR register yoga teacher, certified angel therapy practitioner, has years of training and mentorship in online marketing and is a certified Trauma of Money facilitator.

Follow Eva on Instagram: @whydontyousaysomething

Listen to her podcast

SEEK Safely Roundtable conversation about Coaching

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Read the memoir “This Sweet Life: how we lived after Kirby died” by Jean and her mom, Ginny Brown

Donate to support SEEK’s mission

To Contact SEEK email [email protected]

Dr. Glenn and Jean chat with Eva Collins about her experience in the self-help/online coaching/wellness world, why she left her coaching business, and what it has been like pushing back against unethical practices and teachers in these industries. 

About Eva Collins:

Eva is the creator of the Instagram account and podcast called "why don't you say something.”

After 20 years in the spiritual, self help, and yoga world and 8 years working as an online coach, she started to see so many issues in the industry and made an account speaking up about it.

She realized some of the things she was learning and teaching around spirituality and online business, were harmful and unethical and weren't a match for her or her values anymore. She quit her coaching business a year and a half ago and now works at a community health care center, and creates content bringing awareness to the harms of the industry.

She has trainings in Reiki, mediumship, NLP coaching, is a certified Holistic Health Coach, and 750 HR register yoga teacher, certified angel therapy practitioner, has years of training and mentorship in online marketing and is a certified Trauma of Money facilitator.

Follow Eva on Instagram: @whydontyousaysomething

Listen to her podcast

Learn more about SEEK Safely on their website

Follow SEEK on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook

Follow Dr. Glenn on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook

Read the memoir “This Sweet Life: how we lived after Kirby died” by Jean and her mom, Ginny Brown

Donate to support SEEK’s mission

To Contact SEEK email [email protected]

Dr. Glenn and Jean discuss the growing feeling that more people are joining in scrutinizing the self-help industry. They discuss some of the contributing factors to this, including recent culty docuseries and a more nuanced cultural understanding of how people get involved with questionable leaders and groups.

Jean also discusses how, 13 WHOLE YEARS after the Sedona (not-a-)sweat lodge deaths, more people than ever are reaching out not just to express condolences over the loss of her sister, but to share in the knowledge that there’s something fundamentally broken in this industry. 

Learn more about SEEK Safely on their website

Follow SEEK on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook

Follow Dr. Glenn on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook

Read the memoir “This Sweet Life: how we lived after Kirby died” by Jean and her mom, Ginny Brown

Donate to support SEEK’s mission

To Contact SEEK email [email protected]

 Also mentioned in this episode:

A Little Bit Culty Podcast

The Vow docu-series from HBO

Wild, Wild Country docu-series on Netflix

Seeking in Times of Uncertainty on our blog

Learned Optimism by Martin E. P. Seligman Ph.D.

Life sends millions of people into the *whisper* ~self-help section~ at the bookstore/on Instagram/on Youtube, etc. So many of us feel kind of ashamed about that, and yet we’re spending billions of dollars per year on our journeys of self-improvement and discovery.

Dr. Glenn Patrick Doyle shares his personal journey with self-help, starting in his teen years when self-help literally saved his life, to when he finally joined forces with SEEK Safely. His story mirrors the stories of many seekers–people who are looking for help or direction but can’t access that help from more typical sources. 

When Dr. Glenn finds SEEK Safely, he’s happy to find an organization that doesn’t just want to vilify the industry, but actually wants to improve it.

Jean and Glenn discuss the great potential of this industry, its staying power, and their frustration over how it falls short.

Learn more about SEEK Safely on their website

Follow SEEK on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook

Follow Dr. Glenn on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook

Read the memoir “This Sweet Life: how we lived after Kirby died” by Jean and her mom, Ginny Brown

Donate to support SEEK’s mission

To Contact SEEK email us: [email protected]

Also mentioned in this episode: 

“Holy Hell” documentary

“Feeling Good” by David D. Burns, M.D.

Background on allegations against Tony Robbins

Welcome to the second episode of the SEEK Safely Podcast, where we aim to empower seekers of self-improvement and discuss the abuses of this billion dollar industry.

In this episode, hosts Jean Brown and Dr. Glenn Patrick Doyle continue diving into the problems with the self-improvement industry that were revealed by the “Sedona sweat lodge deaths” at James Ray’s 2009 Spiritual Warrior retreat. This tragedy launched SEEK Safely Inc.–a non-profit org founded by the family of one of the sweat lodge victims, Kirby Brown.

Jean (Kirby’s sister) and Dr. Glenn (SEEK’s Board president) point out the “red flags” that became clear in the aftermath of Sedona–tactics of manipulation and abuse that were present not only at that event, but which are common across the entire self-help industry.

Learn more about SEEK Safely on their website

Follow SEEK on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook

Follow Dr. Glenn on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook

Read the memoir “This Sweet Life: how we lived after Kirby died” by Jean and her mom, Ginny Brown

Donate to support SEEK’s mission

To Contact SEEK email [email protected]

Also mentioned in this episode:

“Tragedy in Sedona” by Connie Joy

“Guru” podcast by Wondery

“Enlighten Us” CNN documentary

Welcome to the first episode of the SEEK Safely Podcast, where we aim to empower seekers of self-improvement and discuss the abuses of this billion dollar industry.

In this episode, hosts Jean Brown and Dr. Glenn Patrick Doyle dive straight into the problems with the self-improvement industry that were revealed by the “Sedona sweat lodge deaths” at James Ray’s 2009 Spiritual Warrior retreat. This tragedy launched SEEK Safely Inc.–a non-profit org founded by the family of one of the sweat lodge victims, Kirby Brown.

Jean (Kirby’s sister) and Dr. Glenn (SEEK’s Board president) point out the “red flags” that became clear in the aftermath of Sedona–tactics of manipulation and abuse that were present not only at that event, but which are common across the entire self-help industry.

Learn more about SEEK Safely on their website

Follow SEEK on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook

Follow Dr. Glenn on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook

Read the memoir “This Sweet Life: how we lived after Kirby died” by Jean and her mom, Ginny Brown

Donate to support SEEK’s mission

To Contact SEEK email [email protected]

Also mentioned in this episode:

“Tragedy in Sedona” by Connie Joy

“Guru” podcast by Wondery

“Enlighten Us” CNN documentary 

The SEEK Safely podcast is the official voice of the nonprofit organization SEEK Safely Inc, which advocates for ethics and accountability in the self-help industry, and empowers seekers to have safe and effective self-improvement journeys. Jean Brown and Dr. Glenn Patrick Doyle peel back the layers of the largely unregulated, multi-billion dollar self-help industry, discussing the patterns of exploitation and deception that pervade the industry and allow self-help gurus to thrive at the expense of their customers and followers. Along the way we’ll have discussions with people who care as much as we do about the self-help industry being held accountable for the promises it makes–and we lay out our vision of a world in which seekers are respected and protected.

Learn more about SEEK Safely on their website

Follow SEEK on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook

Follow Dr. Glenn on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook