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Alene is the President and Founder of Legal Impact for Chickens. She graduated from Harvard Law School, clerked for a federal judge and then started litigating for animals. She has worked at People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), the Animal Legal Defense Fund, and The Good Food Institute. Alene is licensed to practice law in New York, the District of Columbia, and California. Alene is committed to helping chickens to honor the memories of her two beloved avian family members, Conrad and Zeke.

In Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what’s real?” & “what matters?”

Sentientism is "evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings." The video of our conversation is here on YouTube.

We discuss:

00:00 Welcome

02:08 Alene's Intro

- "Making factory farm cruelty a liability... we sue companies for abusing animals on factory farms"

02:44 What's Real?

- Raised #atheist "they didn't teach me anything about god"

- A friend & camp counsellor talking about someone who is always watching you - even indoors!

- Mum: "Just don't argue with them because you don't want to make them upset"

- "I'm an atheist today... because I've never been encouraged to be religious I think I have a much more positive view of #religion "

- "It's kind of hard to know if anything's real... I don't feel like I have evidence of anything at all... even that I exist!"

- "I do assume there's ground I can walk on... that the things I see are real"

- "Day to day I live very much like a naturalistic person"

- "There's probably a world outside my body"

- Imperfect memory & perception & dreaming

- Arbitrary beliefs

- "How do I know my mind is functioning correctly?... it helps me have more empathy for people that think very differently"

- Risks & harms of bad epistemology

- #naturalism vs. #dogma vs. #fideism (#faith) vs. fake naturalism

22:25 What Matters?

- "#morality comes from psychology... humans just evolved morality... part of it comes from society"

- Descriptive & normative ethics

- Relativism

- "I have this intuitive sense that suffering is bad & joy is good"

- Utilitarianism

- Equality

- It's hard to convince a psychopath to be moral

- "Pick somebody who already cares about suffering... & show them how whoever I'm concerned about is suffering"

- #Consequentialism, #virtue ethics, #deontology, #feminist care ethics

- Offsetting one being's suffering with the flourishing of another?

- #pluralism 

38:28 Who Matters?

- "I care about animals a lot"

...and much more. Full show notes at Sentientism.info.

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Chaitanya is Assistant Professor at the Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS) in the Centre for Regulatory Policy and Governance. He has a PhD in Economics. Chaitanya’s research interests include economic development strategies in the global south, structural change, economic development and regulatory policy, urban economics, and non-anthropocentric strategies/alternatives to anthropocentric value systems in progress and conservation including food systems research (and maybe Sentientist Economics?)

In Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what’s real?” & “what matters?”

Sentientism is "evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings." The video of our conversation is here on YouTube.

We discuss:

00:00 Welcome

01:42 Chaitanya's Intro

- Economics as a way to improve the world

03:45 What's Real?

- Growing up in a #sindhi family in India

- #pakistan , #india & partition

- Having a #hindu temple at home

- An #atheist  father "he didn't believe in all those things" who turned to religion after a difficult time

- "I don't believe in god"

- "Religion has always been a tool to marginalise different sections of the society"

- Rejecting faith

- Degree, masters, PhD... "questioning things... critical thinking"

- Before then, unthinkingly accepting what had been told

- "The way you think has real impact on society"

- "There are several ways of living life and one has agency"

- Evidence & reason, ethical & systemic critiques of religion

- "It's a very hard task to grasp reality"

- "I would rather... analyse things around me as they are"

- #pluralism m

- Naturalistic views of relatedness & interconnectedness

- Finding a balance between defeatist humility & arrogant hubris

22:54 What Matters?

- Being sensitive, as a child, to humans & non-humans

- Growing up in a patriarchal society

- "Not cheating, working hard... stopping at red lights"

26:49 Who Matters?

- Sindhis typically eat meat, but father said "I always felt it was not the right thing to do"

- Buying meat from a public slaughterhouse "I did not feel comfortable but I used to love it [eating meat]"

- Family gatherings centred around #meat  "everyone around me was relishing... & my father was telling me this is not the right thing to do"

- Fighting about eating meat at 4-5 years old

- Visiting the #slaughterhouse "this is where it comes from"

- #sentience & the dangers of human-defined moral scope...

...and much more. Full show notes at Sentientism.info.

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Adrian is a multi-award winning fantasy and science fiction author. He is known best for his series Shadows of the Apt and for his novel Children of Time. Children of Time was awarded the 30th Arthur C. Clarke Award in 2016.

In Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what’s real?” & “what matters?”

Sentientism is "evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings." The video of our conversation is here on YouTube.

We discuss:

00:00 Preview!

00:55 Welcome

02:15 Adrian's Intro

- "I write books about giant spiders from outer space"

03:45 What's Real?

- "I'm very much on the science end"

- "We weren't a religious household"

- US/UK religiosity

- "A fascination with the natural world"

- Dabbling w/#spirituality  "It's amazing how many people have been King Arthur"

- "I believed in every damn thing... desperate to find the 'other'"

- "The people who want to believe don't examine it"

- "Still... looking for that strange but within a scientific boundary"

- #aliens 

- #evolution 

- "I am pretty much entirely naturalistic"

- #briancox 

- #homeopathy & "special cases"

- #scientificmethod 

- Tech & magic. Apt & Inapt

- #telepathy , #psychics, #ghosts "people are out there trying to fake it is... tangential evidence that it is not real"

- "I'm not saying 'this cannot be' but I am saying 'show it to me'"

- "There is no supernatural"

- Do extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence?

- #cryptids 

- "I don't want to be fooled by some... snake-oil salesman"

- "There's a weird sort of science cosplay going on"

- Folklore, fiction, speculation, narrative "this is a long way from saying 'this is the case'

29:15 What Matters?

- "Try to do no harm & don't be a dick"

- The Golden Rule & improvements

- Autism, pronouns... considering others

- Freedom & constraints on freedom

- "Being considerate & egalitarian... if you have the luck & the resources to be able to"

- "I get my morality from other people"

- "I could so easily have fallen in with a very different group of people"

- Divine command theory, relativism, nihilism, egoism

- "Science can be mis-used... race theory for example"

- "Religion defaults to a faith-based argument that effectively is not an argument"

- "I accept the theory of relativity but I don't understand it"

- Studying animal behaviour: Skinnerian behaviourism: "Animals... can't really feel pain"

- Animal intelligence. Spiders dreaming

- Phil of mind: #Illusionism, eliminativism, #panpsychism

- Origins of sentience "those are the things that make life do what it does"

...and much more. Full show notes at Sentientism.info.

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Emerson is the host of the Counter Apologetics & Walden Pod podcasts, focusing mostly on religion, atheism and consciousness. Both are also available on his Emerson Green YouTube channel. You can find all his links here.

In Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what’s real?” & “what matters?”

Sentientism is "evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings." The video of our conversation is here on YouTube.

We discuss:

00:00 Welcome

01:32 Emerson's Intro

- Podcasting as a relationship saver :)

- Counter Apologetics (#religion & #atheism)

- Walden Pod (#consciousness & #panpsychism )

- "Religion is at the intersection of practically everything I care about"

05:01 What's Real?

- Raised as a #youngearth #creationist Christian, sheltered from science & philosophy

- Now atheist, "maybe beginning to lean #agnostic "

- Attending #apologetics Camp "this is the defence! I don't believe in god"

-  @Answers in Genesis  "they do try to give scientific & philosophical arguments"

- "Young Earth Creationism is one of the wrongest things you could propose"

- "A book from god seems like a pretty solid epistemic source"

- "The universe... is really not 6000 years old"

- Mum is a professor at an Xtian university

- "It's wrong to say they're #anti-science exactly"

- "I learned about evolution later & was blown away"

- "I was blown away by how bad the Bible was... morally"

- The failure of prayer

- #mormonism & the "Under The Banner of Prayer" film. The risks of thinking god is speaking to you

- "The mainstream Xtian narrative... is just basically incoherent"

- Hell & the #problemofevil vs. a just, good, god. #Theodicy

- Historical contingency, religious diversity

- "If they were born in India they'd probably be Hindus"

- "I was very angry for a while... felt like I'd been lied to"

- The psychological shock of deconverting

- "If I could choose to be believe I would... just for the sake of my mum"

- The distress of family & friends

- Hidden atheism within religious communities & even pastors

- Shunning e.g. "gay homeless teenagers around Salt Lake City"

- Natural #theology 

- #Fideism & faith vs. "everyone I know has reasons"

- Philip Goff & secular religion

-  @Bart D. Ehrman  

- Naturalism & the natural world as "common ground"

- Usage vs. definitions

- Conservative/scientific & moderate/abstract & liberal naturalisms vs. supernaturalism

- "Sometimes I self-deprecatingy call myself a 'spooky naturalist'"

- "Here's what we know from science - is that all there is?"

-  @Sean Carroll  

...and much more. Full show notes at Sentientism.info.

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Pearl describes herself as “poly-vocational”. She is a foreign relations & management consultant with an MA in International Relations & an MBA in International Business. She is a vegan whole foods advocate via her “Le Twisted Spoon” club. Pearl is also a community organiser, public speaker & sometimes a political candidate!

In Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what’s real?” & “what matters?”

Sentientism is "evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings." The video of our conversation is here on YouTube.

We discuss:

00:00 Welcome

01:17 Pearl's Intro

- Foreign relations consulting & #vegan activism

02:55 What's Real?

- Growing up in #kansas USA

- A traditional African-American household

- "There's a connection between people clinging to religion & #poverty"

- "This disparity between what was taught on Sunday and what people practiced throughout the week"

- "Unsavoury" behaviour by church leaders

- Poverty, moving frequently, homeless shelters

- Church charity (food, paying bills)

- "As an adult I feel much more #spiritual & less religious"

- "If it didn't make sense to me I had a problem with it"... Santa Claus etc.

- Open-minded mum

- Church corruption & money "You have to pay to pray"

- Disparities in the #bible 

- Churches teaching Jesus but not following his example

- "Everything was taken away from the people who came over [slavery] and it was replaced with this [Christianity]"

- "I still believe there's something higher than myself"

- Christianity's role in colonialism

- #religion 's allure for those suffering ("your suffering in this life doesn't matter because *heaven*!"). "A lot of really bad things have been allowed to happen because of that principle..."

- Compassion vs. status, in-out groups, hierarchy

- Three experiences "I have zero explanation for that"

- "Is there someone bigger than myself that clearly loves me - I know that for sure"

- The problems of suffering & unanswered prayers "It doesn't add up rationally"

- "The kind of god I want to worship & love wouldn't behave in that way"

- Jesus' teachings vs. Jesus as a god

- Husband became #christian by listening to Christian radio in Paris

- Church food banks & real help

- "I don't think that maybe 'Christian' is the right term to describe myself these days"

- Even #jesus threatened non-believers with hell

- Child abuse in religious groups. Risks of authority/power/groupishness

46:03 What and Who Matters?

- Growing up - "family matters"

- "If you have something you should share it"

- "Unless you piss me off" :)

- US Marine Corps scholarship & a sense of nationality

- Justice & equality

...and much more. Full show notes at Sentientism.info.

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Ingrid is an animal activist and the president of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), the world’s largest animal rights organization. She is the author of several books, including "The PETA Practical Guide to Animal Rights", "Animalkind" and the 30th anniversary new edition of "Freeing The Animals". Ingrid has worked for the animal-protection movement since 1972. She has been given the following awards: Washingtonian of the Year, 1980; Courage of Conscience Award, 1995; Shining World Compassion Award, 2007; Ahimsa Award, 2014 and the Peter Singer Prize for Strategies to Reduce the Suffering of Animals, 2016.

In Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what’s real?” & “what matters?”

Sentientism is "evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings." The video of our conversation is here on YouTube.

We discuss:

00:00 Welcome

01:24 Ingrid's Intro

- Building PETA, the world's largest animal advocacy organisation

- Writing 14 books including "Free The Animals" about the Animal Liberation Front

03:39 What's Real?

- "We are all creatures of our upbringing"

- A strict, "victorian" father & a very kind mother

- "I was shipped out to boarding school & raised by some disciplinarian nuns"

- Nuns took out their bitterness on the "little rich girls" in their care

- Rejecting the nuns' oppression helped motivate Ingrid to be rebellious, to fight for the powerless & seek justice

- Earliest memory: Family dog "was like my brother"

- Church on Sunday, but "it never really stuck with me"

- Being lured into religiosity, but "it was a passing phase"

- "I rejected what the nuns said because they were so ghastly"

- Roman Catholicism. Praying at 6am every morning, "a lot of silence"

- "We didn't respect the nuns... they were barbaric... even of the little kids... 5 & 6 year olds who would cry themselves to sleep"

- A visiting Jesuit priest got one of the school-girls pregnant

- "For a while I would cross the road if I saw a nun coming the other direction"

- Later re-engaging with Christianity (bible, church)... "ultimately I completely rejected it... it made no sense at all... if there is a god it's... a cruel god or a powerless god"

- Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster

- "I'm not afraid to say I'm an atheist"

- "Ricky Gervais & Bill Maher... are not kowtowing... are not intimidated"

- The imperative to speak out (where others can't)

- Being told to accept "mystery" on face value, "absurd" stories & blind faith

- Lisa Kemmerer's views on religious compassion for non-human animals 

...and much more. Full show notes at Sentientism.info.

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Jackie is a former dairy & beef farmer turned full-time animal rights advocate. She is head of communications and a founding board member for the global non-profit, Vegan FTA (For The Animals). She also co-hosts their podcast and live shows. Jackie is also an author and public speaker.

In Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what’s real?” & “what matters?”

Sentientism is "evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings." The video of our conversation is here on YouTube.

We discuss:

00:00 Welcome

- Jordi Casamitjana (https://youtu.be/vtCwoq1XnUg) as a "vegan godfather" :)

02:28 Jackie's Intro

- From beef & dairy farming to animal advocacy & veganism

- Erin Wing (https://youtu.be/NAh1kLrp99Y)

04:20 What's Real?

- Growing up in a UK village in the 1970's

- Naturalist Gilbert White "England's first ecologist?" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_White

- Christian community & school "If you're good to go to heaven & if you're bad Satan's going to get you"... "Nobody ever questioned it"

- Fitting in & FOMO "everybody went to church on Sunday"

- Joining the church choir, but not being religious

- Losing son Luke at 2 days old

- "If god loves us all... how come there are all these bad things happening?"

- "Any shred of belief I ever had... just went straight out the window"

- Spirituality? Unexplained things... a clock starting without batteries... "things happening for a reason?"

- "Maybe there's something greater out there... not god"

- Exploring Buddhism after going vegan "All you have to do is just be kind"

- Meditation & Yoga

- "There is such synergy between veganism & Buddhism"

30:38 What Matters?

- Good: "Not being mean... not killing" vs. god compliance

- "I don't think there is a hell..." except for what we do to non-human animals

- Sons coming home from Xtian school saying "god's going to strike me down!"

- Being most authentic & open at times when "I had nothing"

- Buddhism "has taught me not to judge other people... I get a lot of peace from it... being kind."

- "Being compassionate towards yourself is the hardest thing to do"

- Dairy farming: "What they are doing is evil... but you can't write them off as being inherently evil"

- "Everyone's got a reason for being the way that they are"

41:50 Who Matters?

- Killing a spider, terrified, at 8 yrs old, then feeling "mortified that I had ended that life... that's never left me"

- Husband Gareth carries a card to rescue bees with

- Reading an IWAF leaflet about seal culling

- Going vegetarian in 1987 after a Viva campaign on factory farming

- "I couldn't believe that humans could be so cruel"

- Father going shooting, being attacked by animal activists

...and much more. Full show notes at Sentientism.info.

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Lisa is an activist and academic who specialises in anymal and environmental ethics. She was an associate professor of philosophy and religion at Montana State University Billings until she retired in 2020 to found and lead the educational, vegan umbrella organization, Tapestry. Lisa is the author or editor of ten books including Animals and World Religions. She has also written over 100 articles and book chapters. Lisa coined the term anymal as a “correct” term for non-human animals.

In Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what’s real?” & “what matters?”

Sentientism is "evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings." The video of our conversation is here on YouTube.

We discuss:

00:00 Welcome

01:28 Lisa's Intro

01:58 What's Real?

- Linking epistemology & ethics

- "My mind sees a continuum"

- Being born with "a more eastern way of thinking"

- Metaphysical & practical concerns

- "I don't tend to use philosophy in an abstract way"

- "I have very little faith in human reasoning... we are not rational beings."

- Descartes reasoning that anymals aren't sentient

- "We cannot trust our reason... that doesn't mean reason's out... we need to do it with humility"

- "It's the extent of our power that makes our arrogance dangerous"

- "Roe vs Wade was just overturned... don't tell me humans are rational."

- "Trump's reality... I don't want to know about that"

- The USA: "Democracy requires education & we're not an educated public"

- "Our reason is flawed... we need to use it... we have to be sceptical"

11:53 What Matters?

- "Cultures & people - that's where you have to work"

- "To try to bring change I need to work with humans where they're at"

- "I can see the beauty in it... and I can see the problems in it"

- "Cruelty is not a good thing... compassion is a good thing... fairly universal"

- "I love religions... they have a committed strong belief... I can get a hold of it"

- "I have never, never talked to a serious Christian, & had them, after a serious conversation, say 'it's OK, what we're doing with anymals'... an atheist? - whole different picture."

- Fowler's stages of religion "I was there (stage 6) in my teens"

- "These religions are rock solid in teaching the core ethic... of compassion"

- Wild animal suffering & hell as challenges to a benevolent god

- "Western faiths tend to be very rigid..." Eastern faiths are more pluralistic/flexible?

- Compassion / empathy as central to Lisa's family's ethics

- "When you live in a community you can't tolerate cruelty"

...and much more. Full show notes at Sentientism.info.

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Philip is a writer from Aotearoa New Zealand, of Pākehā (NZ European) & Māori (Ngāi Tahu) descent. He is a PhD candidate at the Uni of Sydney, affiliated with the Sydney Environment Institute. He holds a Master of Arts in Philosophy from The Uni of Auckland & diplomas in te reo Māori (the Māori language) from Te Wānanga o Aotearoa. Philip has written for publications such as the Guardian, Newsroom, & Takahē. His book, Love Notes: for a Politics of Love, is published by Lantern Books. In 2018, he co-organised 'The Politics of Love: A Conference' at All Souls College, Oxford. Philip was also kaiwhakatipu (editor) of He Ika Haehae Kupenga.

In Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what’s real?” & “what matters?”

Sentientism is "evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings." The video of our conversation is here on YouTube.

We discuss:

00:00 Welcome

01:54 Philip's Intro

- Writing on animals, Maori issues & "The Politics of Love"

03:10 What's Real?

- Neither parent very religious so grew up agnostic?

- Anglican Christian high school

- Sermons talked more about love than god

- Confirmed at 14 yrs... "ridiculous... what do 14 yr olds know?"

- "A lot of the metaphysical background was smuggled in"

- Anglicanism to comparative religion to philosophy

- Turning from metaphysical to normative/ethics/politics

-  "The final nature of reality is unknowable to us & we just have to proceed on our senses"

- Albert Camus

- The risk of being distracted by esoteric philosophical questions... instead "We need to be engaged in work that tried to bring about a better world in the light of obvious suffering"

- "I do believe there is something transcendent that is true... spiritual... love"

- "Communing with the spiritual... but through a critical filter"

- "Prophets of love... Martin Luther King Jr & Te Whiti O Rongomai"

- God, purpose, meaning, spirit, love... "Our attempts to name it... project our own interpretations on to it... prevent us from fully understanding..."

- Ethical risks from religious or spiritual epistemologies (unchallengeable, unknowable, incommunicable, obedience, higher purposes, constrained/conditional compassion)

- Old, new testaments, "what would the next step be?... Something like love?... a more mature ethical outlook."

- Is something missing from a purely naturalistic ethics? "Not necessarily... we should & can find reasons for acting in a loving way independently from this spirituality I have described."

26:30 What Matters?

- "I understand ethics in relation to love & relationship"

- Constructing & affirming the morality we want to see in the world

- "We are living in an absurd world... we need to determine & assert our own values... try to act lovingly"

...and much more. Full show notes at Sentientism.info.

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Ana Bradley is Executive Director of Sentient Media. Sentient Media is a non-profit journalism outlet aimed at making transparent the suffering that goes on in our food systems and inspiring readers to think more about the implications of what we eat. Ana also hosts the Sentient Media podcast.

In Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what’s real?” & “what matters?”

Sentientism is "evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings." The video of our conversation is here on YouTube.

We discuss:

00:00 Welcome

01:38 Ana's Intro

- Animals in the media (largely ignoring their perspectives)

06:17 What's Real?

- "I never had a conversation with my parents about god"

- Church of England school but "I never believed in... a man sitting in the clouds"

- Linking Christian & pagan festivals

- Celebrating equinox & solstice. Sunrise to sunset walks with dad

- Wikka, paganism, nature

- "Beliefs of respecting nature & respecting animals"

- Not practicing any religion but rituals of respecting the solstice & natural transitions

- Building an elements altar as a child

- "I don't believe in magic... but I do believe that nature & animals have incredible power & roles to play in the existence of our planet... it's weighted in science & reason & logic"

- David Attenborough's "Life of Plants"

15:15 What Matters?

- Looking to nature & our relationship with the planet

- The power and aura of natural cycles

- "The circle of life" (sorry for my singing) argument for animal product consumption

- The naturalistic fallacy

- JW: "Nature is awesome but it is not ethically good or bad"

- Wild animal suffering

22:07 Who Matters?

- At 6yrs old seeing a picture of a kitten being vivisected

- Family dog & fishes

- "I have this instinct to go to the underdog... the group or the being that is least respected or protected"

- Learning about exploitation of non-human & human animals around the world

- Children's natural empathy for non-humans... "we kind of beat it out of them"

- Making the connection between animals on the plate and animals suffering at 6 yrs old

- Asking about animal derived food "my parents told me the truth"... I said: "I don't want to eat animals"

- Supportive parents re: going vegetarian then vegan

- Social, psychological, practical, information impediments to veganism

- "One piece of the puzzle is knowing how to eat"

- "It took me a few years to realise what the dairy industry is"

- At 10yrs seeing a Viva poster of a dairy cow

...and much more. Full show notes at Sentientism.info.

Sentientism is “Evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings.” More at Sentientism.info. Join our "I'm a Sentientist" wall via this simple form.

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Thanks Graham.