More topics:

• We discuss the state of independent SaaS and what it means to have a very low payback period.
• Rick has installed a development environment and is learning to code again.
• Tyler is almost done getting ready to switch the LACRM marketing site to Webflow.
• Tyler is considering trying out Mixpanel.
• Salesforce is going more remote. What does that mean for San Francisco.
• We discuss Tyler's tweet thread about his internal dashboards.
• We talk about the Trends.vc report on competitor risk.