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This week on Serious Privacy, Paul Breitbarth and K Royal take some time to review recent events or developments in privacy and data protection. With little happening in the U.S. (where is Ohio’s privacy law?), the focus is more on Europe and India. K and Paul discuss the European Data Protection Board’s recent guidance on international transfers, the new decision by the Wiesbaden court (in Hesse, Germany) on cookies and the U.S., and the highest fine to date in the Netherlands. 

Join K and Paul as they explore what the U.S. Cloud Act has to do with cookies. It’s not really clear, but more information has come with the publishing of the interim order. 

And lastly, there is news to share on a personal level. Tune in to find out. As always, please feel free to share your thoughts with us - therewill be a year end show on the best episodes. Get your vote counted! Follow us on LinkedIn as Serious Privacy and on Twitter @podcastprivacy @EuroPaulB and @HeartofPrivacy. 

Resources

• The German case decision on cookies 
• The white paper on the US Cloud Act 

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This week on Serious Privacy, Paul Breitbarth and K Royal speak with Lourdes Turrecha. Where a year of five ago many companies could still run their data protection and privacy compliance programs with email, spreadsheets and word files, today’s reality is completely different. Accountability, documentation and reporting requirements are much more detailed and widespread than they were before. Privacy technology is on the rise, and we sure know something about that at TrustArc! But privacy tech is not just about privacy management - it is also about privacy enhancing technologies, smarter processing technology and improved data security. 

Our guest this week knows all about this. Lourdes is the Founder & CEO of PIX LLC, an innovative privacy firm in Silicon Valley, and the Founder and Chief Privacy Tech Evangelist of The Rise of Privacy Tech (TROPT), a movement that brings together privacy innovators, investors, experts, and evangelists to further privacy innovation. She is also Privacy Tech & Law Fellow and Adjunct Professor of Privacy Law at Santa Clara University School of Law.

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Resources

• The 2021 Defining the Privacy Tech Landscape white paper 
• Privacy Tech Startup Deal Flow (for startups that are fundraising)
• TROPT Innovators membership (to get plugged into the privacy tech space and build relationships with other privacy tech founders, investors, and experts)
• TROPT Data Privacy Week 2022

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This week on Serious Privacy, Paul Breitbarth and K Royal take to the streets, so to speak, at the IAPP global conference in Brussels. Well, Paul did and K benefitted. Join us as we hear the thoughts, predictions, and worries of fabulous privacy professionals. [Paul relayed the comments that he received - it was humbling & heartwarming, so thank you! As much as you appreciate us, we return the respect tenfold.]

Predictions and worries include thoughts on AI, using data for good, awareness of our digital beings, children's privacy, Brexit, joint enforcement, and other wildly exciting privacy / data protection topics. Most of these are top of mind for many of us... or are they?

A big thank you to all of our guests for this episode:

• Alexander Hanff Hanff & Co
• Andreea Lisievici Volvo
• Anna Pouliou Deloitte
• Aoife Sexton Truata
• Bojana Bellamy CIPL
• Caroline Olstedt Carlström Cirio
• Estelle Massé Access Now
• Gabriela Zanfir-Fortuna Future of Privacy Forum
• Rob van Eijk Future of Privacy Forum
• Trevor Hughes IAPP

Upcoming Privacy Shield webinar 1 DEC

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This week on Serious Privacy, Paul Breitbarth welcomes K Royal, the recently-approved PhD graduand (yes, it’s a word) fresh from her dissertation defense on Privacy Complaince in US Universities. Many of our listeners likely participated in the nearly-anonymous Delphi Method part of her research, where privacy professionals around the world answered a series of questions to determine critical parts about privacy in the university setting. These included triggers, program elements, and risk factors. Her PhD is in public affairs, a fitting match for privacy law, from the University of Texas at Dallas, the School of Economic, Political, and Policy Sciences.

Join us as we discuss the substance of privacy law at US universities, some common misperceptions, but also the difference in the PhD process between the US and Europe. Some of your favorite topics come up, such as CCPA, GDPR, and HIPAA. Also, her research involves the complexity of managing privacy law in a complex environment, bringing in Complexity Theory as a framework. Complex Adaptive Systems was used in terms of privacy law by Zhang and Schmidt when considering China’s privacy law back in 2015 in their paper Thinking of data protection law's subject matter as a complex adaptive system: A heuristic display.

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This week on Serious Privacy, Paul Breitbarth and K Royal jump back across the ocean to North America. While everyone is focused on the Chinese Personal Information Protection Law that was passed on August 20 and went into effect November 1, 2021, Quebec quietly passed Bill 64, (C-11) “An Act to modernize legislative provisions as regards the protection of personal information.” It received assent on September 22, 2021, with a majority of its provisions coming into force over the next two years. 

Joining the podcast today are two experts in Canadian privacy law, Jennifer Stoddart and Constantine Karbaliotis. Jennifer was the Privacy Commissioner of Canada from 2003 to 2013 and previously served as the Chair of the Commission d'accès à l'information du Québec from 2000 to 2003 and has also held positions on the Human Rights Commissions of Canada and Québec. Constantine is likewise no slacker when it comes to privacy law, having nearly 20 years experience in both the private and public sector, helping companies comply with complex privacy laws from US, Canada, and the EU.

Join us as we discuss the ins and outs of the new Quebec law, the complications you might see, the necessary steps you need to take to be compliant. In the conversation, we will also discuss some of the nuances with integrasting privacy programs and how GDPR impacts Canadian activities.

As always, if you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact us at [email protected]. In addition, if you like our podcast, please do rate and comment on our program in your favorite podcast app. We also have a LinkedIn page for Serious Privacy, so please follow for more in-depth discussion.

If you have comments or questions, find us on LinkedIn and Instagram @seriousprivacy, and on BlueSky under @seriousprivacy.eu, @europaulb.seriousprivacy.eu, @heartofprivacy.bsky.app and @igrobrien.seriousprivacy.eu, and email [email protected]. Rate and Review us!

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What does a PhD dissertation, privacy books, the color of orange, and biometric legislation have in common? No, this is not some lame joke, but there is one of those in the episode. This week on Serious Privacy, Paul Breitbarth and K Royal present one of their back porch / kitchen table conversations. The episode may be slightly messy. It might be slightly longer than you are used to,  but a lot of updates are covered since it's been so long since one of these episodes given all the developments in privacy law. 

In this episode, Paul and K catch up on various topics, such as those listed above, but also a brief look into some of the upcoming episodes, such as the new law out of Quebec (more on that in the next episode) and the PIPL webinar on November 9, 2021. Be sure to catch that. In addition, please keep in mind that TrustArc has lots of resources for you - most are available on the PIPL microsite https://trustarc.com/china-pipl/.They also discussed K’s brief experience at the IAPP PSR 2021 in San Diego, CCPA developments, and enforcement actions.

Join us for Paul’s reading recommendations for two great books: the first one is part of the  Future of Privacy Forum's  book club this month - Privacy is Hard and seven other myths by Jaap-Henk Hoepman. The second one is There is a War Going On But No One Can See It by Huib Modderkolk. 

As always, if you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact us at [email protected]. In addition, if you like our podcast, please do rate and comment on our program in your favorite podcast app. We also have a LinkedIn page for Serious Privacy, so please follow for more in-depth discussion.

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This week on Serious Privacy, Paul Breitbarth and K Royal revisit the Chinese Personal Information Protection Law that goes into effect just a few days after publication of this episode. K and I spoke about this law already in episode 30 of this season, dated 31 August, as well as during our webinar on 15 September. However, questions keep flooding in, so we decided to record a follow up episode. The guidance coming out of China is still limited, although it seems the Cyberspace Administration of China, their main regulator, is starting to publish some explanatory documents. 

Today, we are joined by Graham Webster. Graham is a Research Scholar at the Stanford Cyber Policy Center, as well as Editor in Chief of the university’s DigiChina website, a great resource providing lots of translations of China’s digital laws and policy documents. He is an expert on issues at the intersection of U.S.–China relations and advanced technology, and we are very happy he is joining us today.

In addition, please keep in mind that TrustArc has lots of resources for you - most are available on the PIPL microsite https://trustarc.com/china-pipl/ and include the previous webinar, a whitepaper, FAQs, the prior podcast and other valuable information. PLUS - the next webinar on November 9 - register now.

As always, if you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact us at [email protected]. In addition, if you like our podcast, please do rate and comment on our program in your favorite podcast app. We also have a LinkedIn page for Serious Privacy, so please follow for more in-depth discussion.

Resources

• CAC web page on PIPL - In Chinese | via Google Translate 
• Inaugural Lecture Prof. H.R. Kranenborg: The state of data protection in the European Union - 20 years after the Lindqvist case - YouTube

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In this episode of Serious Privacy, Paul Breitbarth and K Royal connect with Jocelyn Paulley, Partner at Gowling WLG in London and Lindsey Schultz, Senior Counsel at Global Privacy for Visa.  This episode is a preview of a session that Jocelyn, Lindsey, and K are presenting on along with Chris Oates, a partner at Gowling WLG in Toronto on Privacy Compliance in the AdTech Industry at the Association of Corporate Counsel's Annual meeting of 2021.

Increasingly, advertising is going digital and being tailored to the viewer to increase conversion rates which necessitates the processing and sharing of vast amounts of personal data by the parties involved in getting an ad to the consumer. We will look at the privacy issues arising from a personal data test case from a European, Canadian, and US perspective, where regulators have this industry under the microscope and draft regulations could further tighten use of cookie and pixel technologies.

Join us as we discuss cookies, profiling, and other fascinating aspects of advertising. If you have comments or feedback, please let us know via email or connect with us on LinkedIn for Serious Privacy or on Twitter @PodcastPrivacy, @EuroPaulB, @HeartofPrivacy, @TrustArc.

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In this episode of Serious Privacy, Paul Breitbarth and K Royal hosted Carolin Lynch, the founder and owner of Copper Hill Strategies, has fifteen years of experience on the U.S. Capitol Hill, including a decade with the House Judiciary Committee where she served for eight years as the Chief Counsel of the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, and Investigations. As Chief Counsel, Caroline was at the forefront of developing some of the most high-profile privacy, cybersecurity, national security, and criminal laws of the 21st Century. She authored dozens of pieces of legislation and developed strategies to successfully shepherd those bills through Congress. Caroline is also a member of the Arizona Advisory Committee of the U.S. Global Leadership Coalition.

The topic? U.S. government surveillance activities. Join us as we discuss this sensitive topic that underpins the invalidation of the EU-US Privacy Shield and is the root problem of the infamous Schrems II decision by the Court of Justice of the European Union in July 2020.

As always, if you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact us at [email protected]. In addition, if you like our podcast, please do rate and comment on our program in your favorite podcast app. We also have a LinkedIn page for Serious Privacy, so please follow for more in-depth discussion.

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This week on Serious Privacy, K Royal presents her vacation episode. You’ve had to wait for it a little while, because of all the recent news and developments, but here it is: privacy at home. K has a long conversation with her husband, Tim Foley, about how living with a privacy professional has influenced their life together, as well as the education of K’s children. Furthermore, they talk about passwords, movies and series that involve privacy and much more. Oh, and we have some special four legged guests joining the conversation every now and then. That’s what you get when recording from home...

As a reminder, a few weeks ago we released Paul’s vacation episode, a conversation with the DPO of the International Committee of the Red Cross.

As always, if you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact us at [email protected]. In addition, if you like our podcast, please do rate and comment on our program in your favorite podcast app. We also have a LinkedIn page for Serious Privacy, so please follow for more in-depth discussion.

Resources

• Movies That Can Help You Understand Data Privacy and Hacking - CPO Magazine
• Most Popular  Movies and TV Shows tagged with keyword "privacy"  - IMDb
• The Complete List of Hacker And Cybersecurity Movies
• Most Common Passwords of 2021
• Password and email breach check: www.haveibeenpwned.com 

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