What if you were spiraling into depression, suffering through unexplained symptoms, and your doctor told you to “take up a hobby”?

That’s exactly what happened to journalist and media personality Shelly Horton - until she discovered the real culprit: perimenopause. In this raw, hilarious and eye-opening episode, Lisa sits down with TV journalist and author Shelly Horton, who’s flipping the script on hormone health with her new book, I'm Your Peri Godmother. 

Shelly shares her personal crash into perimenopause, the misdiagnoses that almost broke her, and the recovery journey that brought her back to life - HRT, therapy and all.

Together, Lisa and Shelly talk honestly about symptoms, solutions, stigma, and the power of saying no to shame… and yes to naps, zero days, and looking damn good in a bikini.

This episode is equal parts educational and empowering. If you’ve ever cried on the kitchen floor wondering, “Is this burnout or something more?”, this one’s for you.

What You’ll Learn:

✨The perimenopause symptoms no one talks about (and how to spot them)

✨What HRT actually is, and how to know if it’s right for you

✨The magic of zero days, sleep rituals, and saying no

✨How to stop caring what other people think and start showing up bolder

✨The science behind 3am wakeups (hint: it’s not just anxiety)

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What happens when you leave behind your career, your country, and everything that feels safe to chase a dream that doesn’t even exist yet?

In this candid and inspiring episode of SHE-talks, Lisa sits down with Kerryn Langer - founder of Arms Of Eve, the wildly successful jewellery and accessories brand that started from the spare bedroom and grew into a multi-million dollar business.

From designing her first pieces at the kitchen table to stocking major retailers and shipping internationally, Kerryn shares the real story of building a bootstrapped brand through grit, instinct, and relentless action. She opens up about managing explosive growth, why she’s still so involved in every detail, and how she balances motherhood with the madness of entrepreneurship.

This one’s for anyone building while googling, trusting their gut over a business plan, and learning to lead while flying by the seat of their pants.

What You’ll Learn:

✨ The unfiltered truth about rapid growth and what it costs

✨ How Kerryn bootstrapped Arms Of Eve into a global brand

✨ Why Kerryn believes in doing business by instinct, not just spreadsheets

✨ Lessons in team leadership, product obsession and founder resilience

✨ What’s next for Arms Of Eve - including international expansion and brand evolution

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What if success didn’t mean scaling endlessly, managing a big team, or chasing visibility… but instead looked like freedom, flow, and deep alignment?

In Part 2 of this powerful two-part conversation, Lisa Messenger returns to share what life and business look like after redefining success - on her own terms. With no full-time staff, no office, and no interest in building an empire for empire’s sake, Lisa walks us through how she created a highly profitable, joy-filled business that fits her life… not the other way around.

From teaching AI to running luxe retreats, Lisa now earns more, works less, and spends her days creating with purpose. This episode is a practical, inspiring look at how to build a business that doesn’t just work - but works for you.

Trading Bigger for Better

After the global rise of Collective Hub, Lisa found herself in familiar territory - launching a booming physical product business that scaled fast. It hit 100,000+ units per month and landed in 40 US states. But it also brought her right back to the stress she’d left behind: inventory, warehouses, and team management.

So she made a different choice. She walked away again - and this time, she designed a business built around life-first principles: creative freedom, minimal overheads, high margins, and deep personal alignment.

Building a Business Ecosystem Around Her Brand

Lisa doesn’t sell “products” anymore. She builds experiences, transformations and thought leadership across multiple price points and formats. From $30 books to $30,000 keynotes, she teaches entrepreneurs how to extract their intellectual property and build a personal brand ecosystem that scales without complexity.

Whether it’s a sold-out retreat or a spontaneous speaking gig, every move she makes is grounded in clarity and spaciousness.

“I think people want to get under the hood. It's too boring to stay perfect. It's not connecting, it doesn't allow our hearts to open, it doesn't allow our minds to be blown, it doesn't allow us to deeply connect with another human when everything's just good, perfect, great.”

From Technophobe to Teacher

Once proudly non-tech, Lisa has now become an unexpected leader in the AI-for-business space. After immersing herself in tools like ChatGPT, building custom agents and becoming a certified prompt engineer, she’s now teaching AI to founders in her signature retreats.

It’s not about tech for tech’s sake. It’s about giving women more time, more clarity, and more confidence to run their businesses better - and smarter.

“I knew it was coming. My team used it every day, but I didn't. And then around about four or five months ago, one of my team said  - we're

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What happens when you build a wildly successful global brand… only to realise it no longer fits your life?

In this raw and revealing episode, Lisa Jones sits down with entrepreneurial powerhouse Lisa Messenger to unpack the real story behind Collective Hub, including the rise, the burn-out, and the bold decision to burn it all down. 

From publishing to personal growth, Lisa shares the messy middle most people never talk about, and why reinvention is a necessary (and liberating) part of long-term success.

The two Lisas dive deep into navigating adversity, the importance of anchoring your business to purpose rather than product, and how to recognise both the red flags and green lights of growth. With candid stories of personal pain, pivoting, and learning how to let go, this is a must-listen for any woman who’s ever wondered whether it’s time to do business differently.

Whether you're facing burnout, scaling fast, or just wondering what's next, this conversation is a masterclass in resilience, alignment, and starting over with intention.

What You’ll Learn:

✨ Why you need a mission that outlasts your product

✨ How Lisa built - and then walked away from - a global publishing empire

✨ The messy truth about burnout, scaling too fast, and cashflow chaos

✨ How to recognise when you're out of alignment (and what to do next)

✨ Why adversity can be your greatest teacher

✨ The difference between doing more… and doing what matters

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How do you build a wildly successful e-commerce brand when you can’t even run ads?

In this laugh-out-loud, no-holds-barred episode of SHE-TALKS, Lisa sits down with Viv Conway, co-founder of Girls Get Off - a trailblazing brand that’s flipping the script on female pleasure and what it means to be bold in business.

From gin-fuelled startup chats on a driveway to viral vulva suits on Bondi Beach, Viv shares how she and co-founder Jo created a community-first brand that’s cracked 7-figures, without relying on paid ads. 

Whether she’s testing new products in a bathtub or co-creating sex toys with influencers, Viv is living proof that leaning into your niche (and not taking yourself too seriously) can be the key to explosive growth.

This episode is as hilarious as it is strategic. If you’ve ever struggled with marketing restrictions, felt like the underdog, or wondered how to make people give a damn about your product - this one’s for you.

What You’ll Learn:

✨ How Viv launched a brand in a taboo industry without paid ads

✨ The power of humour, honesty and being your own avatar

✨ Why co-branding with influencers can outperform paid campaigns

✨ Clever marketing hacks that turned a restricted niche into a cult brand

✨ Viv’s take on AI, SEO, and staying ahead of slow-moving competitors

✨ The behind-the-scenes lessons from building Girls Get Off into a household name

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What if your ambition was costing you everything - and you didn’t even realise it?

In this powerful episode of SHE-talks, Lisa sits down with Megan Dalla-Camina, founder of Women Rising and one of the world’s leading voices on feminine leadership, burnout recovery and sustainable success.

From a high-flying corporate career to a complete breakdown that became the catalyst for her life’s work, Megan shares what it really takes to heal, lead and live differently. Together, Lisa and Megan get radically honest about burnout, addiction to hustle, and the hidden narratives driving so many women to the brink.

This is more than a conversation - it’s a wake-up call and a roadmap to a new way of doing business, one grounded in wisdom, spaciousness, and self-trust.

What You’ll Learn:

✨ What burnout really looks like (and why you might be in it without realising)

✨ How regulating your nervous system can radically transform your life

✨ The 13 inner critic archetypes holding women back (and how to rewrite them)

✨ How to tap back into your feminine power in business and life

✨ Simple daily practices to shift from hustle to harmony - without losing momentum

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What if one decision nearly cost you everything you’d spent a decade building?

In this raw and powerful episode, Lisa sits down with Briony Kennedy, founder of Adorn Cosmetics - a clean beauty brand with a cult following and a founder story like no other. 

From launching with nine-month-old twins while battling postnatal depression to surviving a half-a-million-dollar tech disaster, Briony proves that you don’t need a trust fund or a Vogue cover to build a million-dollar brand. You just need relentless belief, purpose-led products, and a hell of a lot of hustle.

Briony gets honest about what it really takes to scale in a cutthroat industry, why she didn’t pay herself for nearly a decade, and how she finally unlocked growth by getting in front of the camera. This is an unfiltered look at resilience, leadership, and building a beauty business that puts sustainability - and the customer - first.

What You’ll Learn:

✨ Why Briony didn’t pay herself for 9 years and what kept her going

✨ The massive mistake that cost her over $500K…and what she learned from it

✨ How getting on camera saved her business and skyrocketed growth

✨ Why sustainability isn’t a buzzword at Adorn - it’s a non-negotiable

✨ The unglamorous truth about being in business for 17 years - and why she’s still obsessed with it

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What if burning it all down was the first step to building something better?

In this deeply honest and powerful episode, Lisa sits down with Alisha Robertson - founder of Doing Everyday Well - to explore what happens when the hustle culture nearly breaks you. 

After experiencing severe postpartum burnout, Alisha made the bold decision to shut down her business completely…with no plan B.

What emerged was a new way of working, living, and leading; one that prioritises rest, radical honesty and sustainable success. Alisha shares the emotional toll of pushing through for too long, how she helps high-achieving women set boundaries, and why self-care is so much more than a spa day.

If you’ve ever felt like you can’t stop, this episode will show you how.

What You’ll Learn:

✨ The burnout breaking point that forced Alisha to shut down a thriving business

✨ Why loving your work doesn’t mean you’re immune to burnout

✨ The hidden costs of tying your self-worth to productivity

✨ How to stop tricking yourself into “resting” while still working

✨ Practical ways to start healing from burnout…without quitting everything

✨ The truth about “ugly” self-care and why it matters more than bubble baths

✨ Why redefining success might be the bravest thing you ever do

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How do you build a cult brand without selling out or cutting corners?

In this episode, Lisa sits down with Mukti, the founder of Mukti Organics - a trailblazing Australian skincare brand built on the pillars of clean beauty, bioactive botanicals and radical transparency. From her humble beginnings mixing formulas in a spare room to becoming a global name in certified organic skincare, Mukti shares the highs, lows, and lessons learned from two decades of business.

They talk brand evolution, manufacturing in-house, greenwashing and how she’s built a business that refuses to compromise on quality, purpose or profit. Mukti also opens up about personal transformation, the importance of intuition, and what it really takes to stay in the game as a values-led founder.

What You’ll Learn:

• Why Mukti walked away from early branding and built a new identity rooted in her own values
• Her secrets to in-house manufacturing and the pros/cons of owning your own lab
• What founders get wrong about their products - and how to educate consumers without fear
• The role of intuition, reinvention and personal development in long-term success
• Why Mukti sees beauty as more than skin-deep…and how that shows up in every product
• How to grow with purpose, not pressure, in a saturated market

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What happens when a sliding door moment turns into a game-changing business opportunity?

In this episode, Lisa sits down with Catherine Dix, Managing Director of Waterdrop Australia & New Zealand, to unpack her extraordinary pivot from running a successful digital agency to launching the European hydration brand down under. With no blueprint, no guarantees and only gut instinct and a great product to guide her, Catherine said yes to a high-stakes joint venture…and never looked back.

From phoning her first 20 customers to spearheading a collaboration with Novak Djokovic and the Australian Open, Catherine shares what it really takes to build brand trust, scale D2C and grow a values-led community in a new market. If you’ve ever wrestled with self-doubt, shiny object syndrome, or retail FOMO, this one’s for you.

What You’ll Learn:

✨ How a chance coffee chat led to a joint venture with a global brand

✨ Why Catherine obsessed over customer service (and still reads every Facebook comment)

✨ What makes Waterdrop’s Australian Open and Novak Djokovic collab work

✨ How she balances brand control with growth

✨ The power of saying no to distractions to stay focused on long-term goals

✨ What’s working in their paid ads strategy (and why they haven’t rushed influencer marketing)

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