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She’s in the Epstein files. It’s fine. She’s fine.
This week, Virginia and Cy are back together to dig into Virginia’s latest piece for The Nerve—Carol Cadwalladr’s new media venture—and it drops some bombs.
Virginia recently discovered she appears in the Epstein files, thanks to her time as a client of literary agent John Brockman and his organization, Edge. You know, the “intellectual salon” secretly bankrolled by Jeffrey Epstein. The one with no women, no cameras, and a whole lot of evolutionary psychology. Totally cool & normal stuff.
Virginia takes us inside how it happened—the pick-me dynamics, the billionaire dinners dangled like bait, the former Playboy Club office—and what it means that so many of the people we were supposed to think of as The Serious Thinkers were, it turns out, neck-deep in all of this.
We get into:
* How Virginia ended up in the Epstein files (and the surprisingly upsetting moment she realized it)
* John Brockman, Edge, and the intellectual-salon-as-grooming-operation pipeline
* The “pick me” trap: why smart women signed on, and what it cost them
* Social Darwinism dressed up in a blazer: the eugenics project hiding inside prestige science
* Why the books on the front table of Barnes & Noble were always kind of b******t
* Atomized ontology vs. relational ways of being (yes, we go there — and it rules)
* What getting out actually looked like, and why it felt like finally being able to breathe
* The emergent systems that might—might—give us a future worth having
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By Virginia Heffernan and Stephen Metcalf4.9
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She’s in the Epstein files. It’s fine. She’s fine.
This week, Virginia and Cy are back together to dig into Virginia’s latest piece for The Nerve—Carol Cadwalladr’s new media venture—and it drops some bombs.
Virginia recently discovered she appears in the Epstein files, thanks to her time as a client of literary agent John Brockman and his organization, Edge. You know, the “intellectual salon” secretly bankrolled by Jeffrey Epstein. The one with no women, no cameras, and a whole lot of evolutionary psychology. Totally cool & normal stuff.
Virginia takes us inside how it happened—the pick-me dynamics, the billionaire dinners dangled like bait, the former Playboy Club office—and what it means that so many of the people we were supposed to think of as The Serious Thinkers were, it turns out, neck-deep in all of this.
We get into:
* How Virginia ended up in the Epstein files (and the surprisingly upsetting moment she realized it)
* John Brockman, Edge, and the intellectual-salon-as-grooming-operation pipeline
* The “pick me” trap: why smart women signed on, and what it cost them
* Social Darwinism dressed up in a blazer: the eugenics project hiding inside prestige science
* Why the books on the front table of Barnes & Noble were always kind of b******t
* Atomized ontology vs. relational ways of being (yes, we go there — and it rules)
* What getting out actually looked like, and why it felt like finally being able to breathe
* The emergent systems that might—might—give us a future worth having
What Rough Beast is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support this work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.

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