All season, we’ve been unpacking the controversial ways we’re messing with nature to save the planet. In this episode, we explore the wildest intervention to date: de-extinction. We take a tour of Colossal Labs, the $10 billion Dallas startup betting it can reverse-engineer extinction itself, to see how they plan to turn pigeons into dodos and Asian elephants into woolly mammoths. But whether it’s bringing back the woolly mammoth from extinction or shooting sulfur dioxide into the stratosphere, just because we can mess with nature, does that mean we should? After the tour, host Amy Scott chats with Pulitzer Prize-winning environmental journalist Elizabeth Kolbert to find out.

All season, we’ve been unpacking the controversial ways we’re messing with nature to save the planet. In this episode, we explore the wildest intervention to date: de-extinction. We take a tour of Colossal Labs, the $10 billion Dallas startup betting it can reverse-engineer extinction itself, to see how they plan to turn pigeons into dodos and Asian elephants into woolly mammoths. But whether it’s bringing back the woolly mammoth from extinction or shooting sulfur dioxide into the stratosphere, just because we can mess with nature, does that mean we should? After the tour, host Amy Scott chats with Pulitzer Prize-winning environmental journalist Elizabeth Kolbert to find out.

All season, we’ve been unpacking the controversial ways we’re messing with nature to save the planet. In this episode, we explore the wildest intervention to date: de-extinction. We take a tour of Colossal Labs, the $10 billion Dallas startup betting it can reverse-engineer extinction itself, to see how they plan to turn pigeons into dodos and Asian elephants into woolly mammoths. But whether it’s bringing back the woolly mammoth from extinction or shooting sulfur dioxide into the stratosphere, just because we can mess with nature, does that mean we should? After the tour, host Amy Scott chats with Pulitzer Prize-winning environmental journalist Elizabeth Kolbert to find out.

Should we mess with nature?

“How We Survive” is an award-winning podcast from Marketplace about the messy business of climate solutions. From the glitz and glam of Miami to the punishing Arizona desert, to a sinking island that our national security depends on, every season, we take listeners on an adventure. We explore the innovative, surprising, and occasionally disturbing ways that people are navigating solutions to a changing climate.
 
 Previous seasons explored the underbelly of the lithium extraction economy with Tech expert Molly Wood; investigated the red-hot Miami real estate market that’s increasingly vulnerable to storms and sea level rise with journalist Amy Scott; and examined the world’s biggest emitter of greenhouse gases — the U..S military — with Marketplace host and former Navy pilot Kai Ryssdal.
 
 In addition to long-form deep dive seasons, “How We Survive” has a spin-off series called “Burning Questions” that empowers listeners with information they can implement in their lives. We answer questions about climate-safe places to live, the best and worst foods to eat for the environment, maintaining hope when all you want to do is doom-scroll, and tips to climate-proof your house.

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“How We Survive” is an award-winning podcast from Marketplace about the messy business of climate solutions. From the glitz and glam of Miami to the punishing Arizona desert, to a sinking island that our national security depends on, every season, we take listeners on an adventure. We explore the innovative, surprising, and occasionally disturbing ways that people are navigating solutions to a changing climate. Previous seasons explored the underbelly of the lithium extraction economy with Tech expert Molly Wood; investigated the red-hot Miami real estate market that’s increasingly vulnerable to storms and sea level rise with journalist Amy Scott; and examined the world’s biggest emitter of greenhouse gases — the U..S military — with Marketplace host and former Navy pilot Kai Ryssdal. In addition to long-form deep dive seasons, “How We Survive” has a spin-off series called “Burning Questions” that empowers listeners with information they can implement in their lives. We answer questions about climate-safe places to live, the best and worst foods to eat for the environment, maintaining hope when all you want to do is doom-scroll, and tips to climate-proof your house.

“How We Survive” is an award-winning podcast from Marketplace about the messy business of climate solutions. From the glitz and glam of Miami to the punishing Arizona desert, to a sinking island that our national security depends on, every season, we take listeners on an adventure. We explore the innovative, surprising, and occasionally disturbing ways that people are navigating solutions to a changing climate.
 
 Previous seasons explored the underbelly of the lithium extraction economy with Tech expert Molly Wood; investigated the red-hot Miami real estate market that’s increasingly vulnerable to storms and sea level rise with journalist Amy Scott; and examined the world’s biggest emitter of greenhouse gases — the U..S military — with Marketplace host and former Navy pilot Kai Ryssdal.
 
 In addition to long-form deep dive seasons, “How We Survive” has a spin-off series called “Burning Questions” that empowers listeners with information they can implement in their lives. We answer questions about climate-safe places to live, the best and worst foods to eat for the environment, maintaining hope when all you want to do is doom-scroll, and tips to climate-proof your house.

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