Other topics:

• Tyler realized he might have more revenue growth next year than he originally thought.
• Rick is learning that things don't die down immediately after open enrollment, and that's making it hard to do end-of-year planning.
• Tyler has been thinking about what the approach might be when LACRM re-opens the office.
• Rick is meeting his intern for the first time in-person.
• Rick switched to Notion and is loving it.
• Tyler has a marketing approach that he wants feedback on.
• We discuss whether companies should donate money to charities.