John Payan on the Recruiting Fit Truth About Division III Basketball | (Part 2) 

In Part 2 of this Significant Coaching conversation, Matt Rogers continues his discussion with John Payan, Head Men’s Basketball Coach at Coe College, with a deep dive into what college basketball recruiting actually looks like from the coach’s seat.

Payan breaks down how he builds his roster—starting with fit as a student and person before anything basketball-related—why winning your “backyard” matters, and how geography, culture, and family support all factor into long-term success. He explains why seeing recruits in person still matters, what body language and behavior reveal during evaluations, and why some traits simply can’t be taught.

This episode covers:

• How coaches truly evaluate recruits beyond film and stats
• Why body language, respect, and response matter more than highlight plays
• The reality of JV development and why playing time is never promised
• What families often misunderstand about Division III basketball
• Honest advice for recruits, parents, and high school coaches navigating the process

This is a truth-filled recruiting conversation—direct, practical, and grounded in long-term development and fit, not shortcuts.

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🏀 John Payan on Mindset, Accountability, and Building a Program That Holds Under Pressure | Significant Coaching Podcast 

In Part 1 of this Significant Coaching conversation, Matt Rogers sits down with John Payan, head men’s basketball coach at Coe College, for a deep, honest discussion about what it really takes to build a program that lasts.

Payan shares lessons from his rise through the coaching ranks—from grinding as a graduate assistant to helping lead back-to-back NCAA Tournament teams, and now carrying the responsibility of the head chair. He breaks down why mindset, effort, and energy are daily expectations, not motivational slogans, and explains how fundamentals, physicality, and habits show up when games tighten and seasons get hard.

This episode dives into:

• Teaching accountability without crushing confidence
• Why rebounding and ball security are mindset issues first
• How young head coaches learn to adjust without ego
• Practice planning that mirrors real game situations
• Developing players for basketball and life beyond the game

This is a pure coaching episode—practical, grounded, and built for coaches who care about standards, development, and doing the job the right way.

🎧 Part 2 of this conversation shifts to Significant Recruiting, where Coach Payan shares insight for student-athletes, parents, and high school coaches navigating the recruiting process.

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• Basketball Recruit’s Journal: https://amzn.to/4bxljEJ
  
  
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The Commissioner's Take on Recruiting: Fit, Expectations, and the Division II Reality | Bob Dranoff (Part 2)

 In Part 2 of this conversation on the Significant Recruiting Podcast, Matt Rogers is joined by Dr. Bob Dranoff—long-time athletic director at Molloy University, former administrator at St. John’s University, and recently retired commissioner of the NCAA Division II East Coast Conference—for a realistic look at college recruiting.

This episode focuses on what coaches, families, and recruits often misunderstand about opportunity, scholarships, and fit—particularly at the Division II level. Drawing on decades of experience, Dranoff explains how recruiting decisions are shaped by enrollment needs, institutional priorities, finances, and leadership philosophy, and why assumptions don’t always align with how rosters are actually built.

They also discuss changing family expectations, the pressures facing coaches, and why transparency and honest conversations matter more than ever in today’s recruiting environment. While Division II may not be the right athletic fit for every student, it can be an excellent academic fit for many—and understanding that distinction is critical.

This episode is especially valuable for:

• Student-athletes navigating recruiting decisions
• Parents trying to understand the process realistically
• Coaches building rosters and managing expectations

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📘 Significant Recruiting: The Playbook for Prospective College Athletes
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📓 The Recruit’s Journal (sport-specific editions)
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⚽ Soccer Recruit’s Journal
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🏐 Volleyball Recruit’s Journal
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🏀 Basketball Recruit’s Journal
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🎙️  From the Commissioner’s Chair: What NCAA Division II Leadership Really Looks Like | Bob Dranoff

 What does it actually mean to lead an NCAA conference?

In this episode of the Significant Coaching Podcast, Matt Rogers sits down with Bob Dranoff, former Commissioner of the East Coast Conference, for a rare, behind-the-scenes look at leadership from the highest level of Division II athletics.

Bob shares what most coaches and athletic directors never get to see—the reality of conference leadership. From balancing presidents, athletic directors, coaches, and student-athletes, to running championships, managing membership, and navigating limited resources, this conversation pulls back the curtain on the complexity of the commissioner’s role.

They dive deep into what makes Division II special, why empathy matters more than ever in leadership, how athletic directors can better support coaches, and the growing challenges facing college athletics—from professionalization to burnout to changing family expectations.

This episode is packed with perspective for:

• College coaches
• Athletic directors
• Administrators and aspiring leaders
• Anyone seeking a clearer, more grounded view of leadership in college athletics

📘 Resources Mentioned & Recommended:

• Significant Recruiting: The Playbook for Prospective College Athletes
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• The Recruit’s Journal (sport-specific editions)
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⚽ Soccer Recruit’s Journal
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🏐 Volleyball Recruit’s Journal
👉 https://amzn.to/4qMLr2S

🏀 Basketball Recruit’s Journal
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⚾ Baseball Recruit’s Journal
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🥎 Softball Recruit’s Journal
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🎙️ 3-Peat Perspective: How Candace Moats Recruits for Championships That Last

How do you win a three-peat—and keep doing it without burning out your culture, your players, or yourself?

On Part 2 of this two-part series on the Significant Coaching Podcast, Matt Rogers continues the conversation with Candace Moats, Head Volleyball Coach at Indiana Wesleyan University, AVCA Coach of the Year, and leader of a program that has captured three consecutive NAIA National Championships.

This episode zeroes in on recruiting—and why sustained excellence starts long before a recruit ever steps on campus.

Coach Moats breaks down how her recruiting philosophy has evolved from chasing talent to prioritizing fit, joy, work ethic, and alignment. She shares why she refuses to manipulate recruits into saying yes, how she talks honestly about faith-based schools, what she listens for in conversations, and why the best recruiting decisions are the ones athletes make for themselves.

This is a must-listen for recruits, parents, and coaches who want clarity, honesty, and a recruiting process built on trust—not pressure.

🔗 Candace Moats Bio: https://iwuwildcats.com/sports/womens-volleyball/roster/coaches/candace-moats/777

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⚽ Soccer Recruit’s Journal
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🏐 Volleyball Recruit’s Journal
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🏀 Basketball Recruit’s Journal
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⚾ Baseball Recruit’s Journal
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🎙️ 3x National Champions: How Candace Moats Builds Programs That Last

What does it really take to build a championship program—and sustain it year after year?

On this episode of the Significant Coaching Podcast, Matt Rogers sits down with Candace Moats, Head Volleyball Coach at Indiana Wesleyan University, AVCA Coach of the Year, and leader of a program that has now won three consecutive NAIA National Championships.

But this conversation goes far beyond banners and rings.

Candace shares powerful insight on protecting team culture, coaching with conviction, rebuilding when necessary, and what it truly means to “finish the race well.” She speaks openly about faith, leadership, accountability, and why sustained excellence is built through clarity, relationships, and standards—not shortcuts.

This episode is a must-listen for coaches, athletic leaders, and anyone committed to building programs that last—on and off the court.

🔗 Candace Moats Bio: https://iwuwildcats.com/sports/womens-volleyball/roster/coaches/candace-moats/777

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⚽ Soccer Recruit’s Journal
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🏐 Volleyball Recruit’s Journal
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🏀 Basketball Recruit’s Journal
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⚾ Baseball Recruit’s Journal
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🎓 Small Town Roots, Smart Recruiting Decisions

Coach Sue Amendt on Fit, Perspective & Guiding the College Journey

In Part 2 of this two-part conversation, the Significant Recruiting Podcast shifts the focus to college recruiting with Hall of Fame volleyball coach Sue Amendt—bringing together the rare and valuable perspective of a former college athlete, a longtime high school coach, and a parent of two college athletes.

Growing up in Lena, Illinois, and coaching for more than 26 years in a small-town community, Sue shares what families really need to understand about the recruiting process—especially when exposure is limited and expectations can feel overwhelming.

In this episode, we discuss:

• Fit vs. level and why it matters more than ever
• What college coaches actually look for beyond talent
• How small-town athletes can navigate recruiting with confidence
• The role parents should (and shouldn’t) play in the process
• Lessons Sue learned guiding her own children through recruiting

This conversation is honest, grounded, and practical—designed to help recruits and families slow the process down, make better decisions, and choose environments where they can thrive as students, athletes, and people.

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🎥 Watch full Season 3 episodes on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CoachMattRogers

If you missed Part 1 – Significant Coaching, go back and listen for a powerful discussion on youth sports development, small-town values, and building programs the right way.

Until next time—stay focused on what you can control, stay humble, and keep chasing significanc

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⚽ Soccer Recruit’s Journal
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🏐 Volleyball Recruit’s Journal
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🏀 Basketball Recruit’s Journal
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⚾ Baseball Recruit’s Journal
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🥎 Softball Recruit’s Journal
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🎙️ Built in a Small Town, Built to Last 🏐

Coach Sue Amendt on Coaching, Community & Raising Athletes the Right Way

What does it look like to build a championship program—and a meaningful life—in a town of just 2,000 people?

In this episode of the Significant Coaching Podcast, host Matt Rogers sits down with longtime friend and Hall of Fame volleyball coach Sue Amendt, the legendary leader of the Lena-Winslow Panthers. Growing up together in Lena, Illinois, Matt and Sue reflect on how small-town values, deep relationships, and community accountability shaped them as athletes, coaches, parents, and leaders.

With nearly 700 career wins, multiple conference and regional championships, and a State Final Four appearance, Sue shares lessons from her 26-year coaching journey—along with powerful insight into youth sports development, player growth, and what it means to coach kids you truly know.

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 👉 https://le-win.net/apps/news/show_news.jsp?REC_ID=742719&id=0

🎙️ Don’t miss Part 2, where Sue dives into her own recruiting journey and shares what she’s learned guiding her children through the process.

Until next time—stay focused on what you can control, stay humble, and keep chasing significance.

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⚽ Soccer Recruit’s Journal
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🏐 Volleyball Recruit’s Journal
👉 https://amzn.to/4qMLr2S

🏀 Basketball Recruit’s Journal
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⚾ Baseball Recruit’s Journal
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🥎 Softball Recruit’s Journal
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🎙️ Division I Recruiting, Unfiltered with Coach Grant Leonard

🏀 In this Significant Recruiting Podcast episode, Matt Rogers is joined by Grant Leonard, Head Men’s Basketball Coach at Queens University of Charlotte, for Part 2 of their conversation—focused entirely on Division I college recruiting.

Coach Leonard breaks down how recruiting has changed, what coaches are really watching when they evaluate recruits, and why so many families misunderstand how Division I decisions are made.

This episode is a must-listen for recruits, parents, and coaches who want clarity instead of guesswork.

Learn more about Grant Leonard here:  Grant Leonard - Queens Head Men's Basketball Coach

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⚽ Soccer Recruit’s Journal
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🏐 Volleyball Recruit’s Journal
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🏀 Basketball Recruit’s Journal
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⚾ Baseball Recruit’s Journal
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🥎 Softball Recruit’s Journal
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🎙️ Season 3, Episode 1: Coaching, Culture & Leadership with Coach Grant Leonard 🏀

To open Season 3 of the Significant Coaching Podcast, Matt Rogers sits down with Grant Leonard, Head Men’s Basketball Coach at NCAA D1 Queens University of Charlotte.

This is Part 1 of a two-part conversation and is focused entirely on coaching and leadership. Coach Leonard shares what it really takes to build and sustain a Division I program—culture, roster construction, practice habits, staff alignment, and the daily standards that separate good teams from great ones.

Direct. Honest. No sugarcoating.

🔗 Coach Grant Leonard bio:
 https://queensathletics.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/coaches/grant-leonard/2136

🎯 Part 2 will dive deeply into Division I college recruiting and how the landscape has changed.

📘 Recruiting resources, including the Basketball Recruit’s Journal, available at:

Coach Rogers:  https://coachmattrogers.com

Amazon:  https://a.co/d/1Q0uuU6

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⚽ Soccer Recruit’s Journal
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🏐 Volleyball Recruit’s Journal
👉 https://amzn.to/4qMLr2S

🏀 Basketball Recruit’s Journal
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⚾ Baseball Recruit’s Journal
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🥎 Softball Recruit’s Journal
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