Father Michael Hurley, OP joined Josh for a conversation about spiritual apathy. Topics included what sloth is (6:20), rest vs sloth (9:18), diversions (16:04), discipline and grace (22:17), caller: how can we tell sloth vs. depression (26:21), indications I have sloth (32:25), avoiding apathy (39:06), email: How I can I keep first things first (43:43), helping those who struggle with apathy (46:28).