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  • The Jab

    Image: Popularity of the first name Coral correlates with The number of biological technicians in Missouri

    Spurious correlation #3,596

    https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious/correlation/3596_popularity-of-the-first-name-coral_correlates-with_the-number-of-biological-technicians-in-missouri

    Note: « every sequence has equal probability » is true but things are a little more complicated when you factor in entropy and the fact that some sequences are more « special » than others which matters when you consider say the probability of getting N heads and M tails after N+M tosses

    Note: I did not create the section / chapter labels; I need to figure out some way to turn that off because I don't care for them; I'm also not responsible for the captions which Apple is auto-generating ( and ignoring any that I put in so I stopped bothering to try with those )

    Transcript

    Hey there I'm Scott and this is Tangents.

    Well it is the 7th of December 2025 as I

    record this.

    Not quite sure when my last one was but it's been a while.

    I'm I'm

    in Phoenix and just the last day when I have a little bit of opportunity to
    record something.

    Usually I'm back at my mom and sister's place at least

    recently and I've talked about this before but very happy that I have a place to
    stay all those kind of stuff but I will say very difficult to do stuff like this.

    I don't have a lot of time and space and all that kind of stuff.

    It's interesting to

    see what the things that I really miss are and like the the big ones from
    having my own place.

    Obviously you know controlling the temperature, controlling

    little basic things like that.

    Not having yeah not having somebody always there

    kind of nice.

    It is nice to be able to spend time with my mom and those.

    But the

    big ones that I miss the most more than anything like that are just having a
    place to work.

    Like I don't have I don't really have a comfortable chair there

    which I there are a bunch of chairs.

    There is that one that I can sit in that doesn't

    hurt me.

    I don't have a place to stand.

    I don't have my standing desk.

    I miss

    that really badly.

    And then I don't have my whiteboard and having like a

    little space, little desk.

    Nice cheer that I can sit in if I want to and

    push away and stand if I don't and then having that whiteboard where I can just
    offload short-term memories onto the board.

    It's it's all really nice and I have

    really miss it.

    But anyway I have this opportunity I'm going to record a couple

    today or at least that's my plan.

    It's already 1842.

    I've been working on some

    stuff and I'm really getting close to releasing something but I have a couple
    things that are just just frustratedly.

    It's one of these things.

    It always feels

    like you're 90% of the way there and then you keep chipping away at a chip
    away chip away chip away at a week later it's like you're 85% of the way
    there.

    That's that's kind of where I am.

    I think I'm going to make it

    converge soon-ish but it's it's been frustrating.

    Anyway anyway the thing I

    wanted to talk about today is something that it's something I talk about a
    decent amount.

    I've spoken a couple of times on it.

    I don't think I've made a

    specific episode at least in this iteration on this but this is particularly
    anti-vaxxers and I'm calling this one the jab and the reason I'm calling it
    the jab is I don't know what happened with language why people use this term
    when they're anti-vaxxers but for some reason they do and you know if you're
    from the UK okay jab that's what you call it.

    Any US calling an injection calling

    a vaccination a jab it's weird it's just weird and this is coming from
    somebody who like this room is you know the climate control I've set to
    the Celsius set to grid.

    I do that.

    I set the speed and a car to kilometers per

    hour.

    I do 24 hour time and things like that.

    I'm not saying that you can't do

    things that are not typical but why are you doing it? And the fact that this
    is so correlated I need I've talked about this before.

    I need to make one of

    these on literacy and when I say literacy it's not just the ability to
    directly like read and write that's a factor of literacy and end of numeracy
    as well you know understanding basic things in math and things like this but to
    be really literate doesn't just include being able to directly read the words
    on a piece of paper it involves being able to critically analyze them being
    able to understand what's behind them and there's a lot more to that than just
    literally directly reading word by word what's there.

    One of the things that I

    think I've talked about this many times as well but I have been online for so
    long and especially like in forums and things like that there are a lot of
    things that are extremely extremely obvious to me that you see somebody's
    somebody says something I just immediately glaringly and I'm not saying that I
    have some special power ability here it's not you know it's very
    developable and a lot of people have this too but I've spent enough time
    that I really can recognize tone in text you can see a lot of the authorship like
    whoever says something you could feel it you really can and it's something like
    I had a good in an argument with somebody I don't know a week or two ago and
    it was a white woman it's relevant here but I shared something that was about
    the sort of Malcolm and you know the whole idea of the sort of white
    liberal being a bigger impediment than air quotes conservatives to progress
    and I shared that and I'm explaining some stuff and then you get the almost as
    though you needed an example white woman comes in and talks about how you know
    well I think this is also power imbalance and yeah like there are a lot of
    factors in public a you don't need to be centering yourself like this was not
    this was not a space for you to come in and do that but also this whole idea and I
    am not an expert in this domain but I know enough to know just simply saying oh you
    know these other factors there are these other explanations or it's this thing that
    affects us all and you're trying to pull race out of the equation it doesn't it's
    actively harmful it really is and the thing about this is like what she said was just
    such an archetype of a pattern that you know it's like you're glaring with sunburn
    right I look at you and you're just glowing and condessantly it's obvious right and she
    is insisting like oh you don't know me you don't you know how can you jump to and I was I
    will say I was being extremely I would say diplomatic and trying to be helpful and I kind of
    I said you know like maybe go check out Rebecca the the white woman whisperer
    who I recommend to anyone I think she's got a lot of good stuff especially if you're
    your skin color looks like mine in your you don't say you totally don't think that your
    racist at all I kind of stuff you're probably doing a lot of harm that you don't realize and
    there are places you can go so I'm just saying go there you know maybe look maybe think about it
    but anyway she was extremely not having that and got really upset and weirdly you know
    unfriended me this was unfaithful unfriended me and then I said something we we we did some back
    but she says something I said something about you know how it's odd the you know this obviously
    offended you enough the you unfriended me and then she said she didn't unfriended me and then we went
    back and forth and then a couple of steps later she's like well I unfriended you because and
    why don't you just fucking tell the truth why don't you just accurately I don't understand
    this thing that people feel compelled to especially when something is just obvious why why are
    you lying about it like it's just weird but yeah and then she was explaining oh we met and we talked
    so many years ago when you were running for office and you seemed really intelligent and a lot
    of complimentary stuff and then she's like oh but I must have misjudged you and no you didn't misjudge
    you didn't I mean I'm not trying to suck my own dick here but you know I have a certain amount of
    insight and a certain amount of intelligence and awareness on in this domain and you know the
    the fact that you don't like what I'm saying doesn't necessarily invalidate what I'm saying but
    anyway I don't want to talk about that that's not the the point of this episode what I want to
    talk about here is anti-vaxxers and I'm not even gonna talk specifically about yeah because this is
    a subject that you could go you could write full dissertations on you could do your long research
    projects or multi-year research projects and it still wouldn't be complete but I want to talk about
    some things that I think are relevant there and the end up being a problem in other areas and these
    are these are things not not coincidentally this also has something to do with politics and with
    people's inability to just recognize and accept basic I would argue obvious things and instead they're
    trying to come up with just ridiculous epicycles on epicycles non-persononious answers for things
    because they won't accept what is obviously the case but anyway coming in focusing on this
    I got a message and it may have very well been sock puppet or I don't think it was a pot but
    you know it was not somebody actually using their own government name it was not somebody
    who's you know like representing themselves directly so somebody using a fake account or an account
    with you know just some random pseudonym or whatever and they come in they pop up and I should have
    it pulled up so that I could give you the full context doesn't matter too much but I said something
    and then they said something about how you know I should look it up just to remember exactly
    okay I should have actually obviously just done this yeah at the beginning but I I posted something
    or ski did I should say waiting for the doctor there's an antivax or that this was
    Monday last week on time flies it's almost a week ago today is Sunday I was at the
    I doctor getting a retinal file or follow up and while I was waiting which took a very long time
    I'm waiting and the doctors in the next room and I'm sitting there
    listening overhearing and there's a woman in the other room not that that's relevant but yeah
    or or someone with a femme voice I should say I don't know if it was a woman but
    in the next room somebody is sitting there and they're blaming vision loss and then they're
    talking about it in the way that it's like oh that thing that we're not supposed to talk about
    the yeah and she's obviously talking about the the COVID vaccines and it's just like this
    thing that was pissing me off so much because she's explaining I like I don't you can't read necessarily
    what somebody's intentions are but the doctor was letting her roll with a lot of stuff that was just
    out there and I I don't know maybe he's an antivax or or you know you just didn't want to accept
    the yeah and I don't think that to be clear I don't know what her situation was I have no idea
    but it sounded like it was some kind of idiopathic vision loss and you know so like no real
    explanation there's obviously some underlying something that caused it but it didn't sound like
    something that was like you did this and then that happened and I don't think it was his fault but
    he's sitting there and I think letting her roll with this idea which is actively harmful for
    everybody because it's you know fostering and fomenting antivax notions but he's letting her think
    and be convinced and then go off and tell her friends all the doctor kind of agreed with me
    that you know like maybe getting this vaccination was part of what precipitated her vision loss
    and I will say you know first of all and this whole discussion I'm going to be
    I'm going to try to be as deliberate and nuanced about it as possible it's it's a very complicated
    subject and it touches on you know medical ethics bodily autonomy capitalism statistics
    a bunch of different domains and I definitely absolutely I'm not going to be covering
    everything exhaustively and you know like I'm going to touch on a few things and there's no way I
    can I can do it full justice but I'm going to try to do as decent of a job as I can
    and so first of all it is true absolutely nothing that we do is free of risk
    there's nothing that we can do there's no choice we can make including the choice not to make a choice
    you know not choosing is also a choice everything has a risk associated with it and that risk
    may be you know like a one in a quadrillion chance of you know you stand up in the morning
    and something happens in a localea like anything you do there could be an extremely extremely
    rare unlikely event or series of events that causes that to end in all kinds of different ways
    and that that's important to acknowledge I think you don't want to say something is risk free
    because nothing is risk free absolutely nothing and then this is of course true because it's
    true for everything is true for any kind of medical intervention or treatment vaccination procedure
    whatever people people die from you know drinking water like literally drink water aspirated
    and you could die there are more you know is that the most rare most ridiculous kind of thing
    in the world you can die from just sun exposure you can die from pretty much anything that you do
    on a daily basis you cross the street you can very easily die you can you could just be sitting
    in bed and immediately right could just fall from the heavens and kill you there's there's nothing
    again that you can do that is not got some risk attached to it and those risks could be mortal
    risks for everything again and so it's certainly possible absolutely possible that somebody
    gets a vaccine and then that causes some kind of adverse reactions and and I will even go so far
    as to say we know there are certain things that will happen for sure add to some you know it's
    some rate low rate but you know you can be assured that there are certain risks one of those risks
    that is very well known and understood is that for people who have immune issues immunological
    issues such as autoimmunity the things like the hedge events in a vaccine can cause some kind of a
    flare-up or reaction so those are things that can happen and this is also just a little editorial aside
    this is one of the reasons why it's so important that as many people who can be effectively vaccinated
    get vaccinated because there are people who genuinely have reasons like actual medical reasons
    where either they can't get vaccinated because it could cause a flare-up in their autoimmune
    disease or they're on some kind of immune suppressant therapy or they just have some other
    immune suppressive state or immune suppressate and so they can't be effectively vaccinated
    the only way that they can be protected is if the rest of us are vaccinated and if enough of
    us are vaccinated and enough of us take precautions and do these kinds of things now you have this
    thing where all of those chains of infection get broken and you know things stop propagating
    and this is herd immunity is basic but I'm trying to describe without actually calling it that but
    annoyingly people have sort of stolen this term and twisted it into something else but what herd
    immunity is is basically even if you're not effectively vaccinated or immune to something if enough
    people around you are immune to it then you could get infected and then you can't give it to somebody
    else or if somebody else gets infected they're not surrounded by enough people who are susceptible
    and it sort of fizzles out and so that can protect other people you know you're not able
    to give it to somebody and so they're not able to give it to somebody else and then that other
    person which it can be you is protected by everybody else being protected this is one of the reasons
    why even not great vaccines where they're only giving like 60 70% protection if you get enough
    people vaccinated in the population you can actually use those to eradicate diseases because what
    really happens ultimately is based on the number of people who are vaccinated have current they
    are completely the vaccinations and in fact if they are all kind of stuff based on all of those
    kinds of things you are adjusting the basic multiplication factor so you're adjusting like
    I'm using things a little bit sloppy here because this is this is a very deep
    I put it being a logical in a area that for the lay person when you get sick there's some number
    which is like how many people you are likely to infect and if that number is above one then that
    means that each person that gets sick gets more on average than the replacement number of people
    to get sick and that means that you get amplification and that means that you get exponential growth
    if you in fact you get sick you infect two or three people now you have an exponential
    thing where every time you get sick you infect two or three people every one of them infects two
    or three people and so on and so forth and very quickly you get massive massive growth if you
    understand anything about exponential growth you know it doesn't take that many steps to get the
    huge numbers so that is this this replication factor and as you're getting more and more of the
    population vaccinated you're lowering that as you're doing other interventions you're lowering that
    and at a certain point if you do enough interventions you've got it below one and as long as
    that you know like each infected person is infecting on average less than one person and it's
    something that you can actually combat less from so if it's something like HIV where you get it and
    you're not going to recover or in enough time yeah you're not going to get rid of it you can
    to have this this work but for something where you actually get sick and then recover and then
    ideally you have convalesced and you're no longer sick no longer infectious now if it's below one
    that means you're not replacing yourself which means that you get exponential decay
    and if you get exponential decay then things will very quickly fizzle out it's the same kind of
    property of exponential growth into decay so basically the the thrust of all of that is you
    adjust that number we do interventions which generally are public health interventions and enough
    of those give you the ability to eradicate or at least greatly reduced diseases and even you know
    even if you're still above one and you have exponential growth there are good reasons to dial
    that down like for example if something is going to use a lot of medical resources the care for people
    if you dial that down even if it's still a problem it's under a more controlled kind of
    regulated growth to be useful but you especially would like to have things actually be below one
    anyway rambling on that's not what I want to talk about here but it is a thing that I think people
    have to understand that just because vaccines are not perfect doesn't mean that they're not extremely
    useful and I think also like I'm going to get back on track in a second though one thing I
    really constantly have to say and I blame Biden for a lot of this because you know you had this
    idea at a certain point well it's it's a very complicated thing in general but it's very simple to
    understand a certain aspect of this which is Swiss cheese this is to say if you have any kind of
    intervention any kind of layer of protection and it's not perfect it has holes if you have one of those
    then you have holes and things can get through if you have two of them and you stack them some of
    those holes are not going to overlap which means even though you have two imperfect layers of protection
    you get better protection then you might expect because some of those holes are not overlapping
    that's that perfect again but you get you know it's improving and you can do three or four
    multiple layers of Swiss cheese and you get fewer and fewer of these passageways that things can
    get through and this is also you know in other domains they call it defense and depth or you know this
    Swiss cheese model is extremely extremely simple extremely well understood and I think you can
    explain it to a little kid so that is how vaccines and masks and all these other things work you
    have a vaccine that's not perfect but it does a good job that's one layer of Swiss cheese
    you wear a respirator that's another layer of Swiss cheese you avoid situations where you're going to be
    in you know places that are like closed and you're going to have like a lot of people with them
    that's another layer of Swiss cheese you improve ventilation you improve their filtration
    you add in other public health interventions or or say rapid early detection and then when
    somebody's you know you detect somebody's infected add-in contact tracing add-in the ability to
    quarantine people yeah do a quarantine for a little while and tell people come for us
    and you add all this kind of stuff and then you get your contact traces you get quarantine
    if you've been exposed to somebody and then you get tested after whatever the incubation period is
    and you're negative now you're free to go if not you get to be quarantined yourself until you recover
    you know you do these kinds of things and each one of these layers of Swiss cheese adds more
    and more protection you don't need that many layers of imperfect protection to get pretty good
    protection also so the problem is of course Biden just like Trump is an extremely lazy
    student doesn't understand stuff doesn't really care the sort of philosophically is a big cheater
    I would say the kind of person I mean obviously know he literally cheated on stuff and
    undergrad in law school and then it was a big plagiarist got drummed out of the 1998
    presidential pride primary for plagiarism yeah he's not a great guy but because of that sort of
    underlying ethos and way of looking at things he saw this problem like you have this pandemic
    and wanted to address it in the sense that he wanted to get credit for it didn't want to actually
    talk to people who know what the fuck they're doing and figure out how to actually address it
    which incidentally would not have taken that long like if you if you had a test trace isolate
    program and especially you know you did like a six to eight week
    paid sort of pause you know you can make it voluntary you don't have to like lock people down so to
    you know you have a pause preferably you stay home preferably you don't do this but you don't even
    have to make it perfect you do that and then you add to that ideally vaccinate people
    improve and improve filtration improve ventilation all of these kinds of things very quickly
    you could reduce this stuff to essentially just a trickle it would be very difficult to fully eradicate it
    because there are reservoirs and nonhumans like other animals but you you could get it down
    to very low levels and when it does crop up you could detect it very easily isolate and then
    prevent it from spreading those are things that you could very easily do which is frustrating because
    yeah if you if you've taken epidemiology like this is not some
    ridiculous complex unsolved problem we understand how to deal with this stuff and you could
    within again six to eight weeks basically be done with it you know you'd still have again
    these outbreaks and you'd still have surveillance but you'd basically be done and instead of doing that
    um he took kind of the shortcut which was okay well we're not gonna actually do this and instead
    we're going to say you get vaccinated and now you're magically protected and the vaccine is a magical
    personal shield that's completely effective and blah blah blah blah the problem is vaccines are not
    magical personal shields they are a component in a comprehensive public health plan and again
    at best at best they will protect you from getting infected like eighty ninety percent of the time
    is a really good vaccine there are some that are better than that but you know but it's not like
    a magical personal shield again it works mostly from herd immunity it does protect you it made
    you know it's it's always good to be vaccinated now well I guess unless you're talking about
    uh I something like say dengue fever where if you if you're infected one time it's not that bad it's
    not great but it's not that bad but then you get infected again and uh it's a much worse
    much worse disease uh dengue fever if you get vaccinated against it and then you get infected
    is actually not a thing that you want to do.

    The only time that it makes sense to the really get

    vaccinated is if you've been infected once now you've already got some immunity and then you
    get vaccinated and that protects you a little bit from subsequent infection but for most other
    diseases that's not the case most diseases getting vaccinated will make the course better
    don't get the outcomes better and again all of these things are statistical on average just
    so on and so forth so again I would like I I am somebody who looks at vaccines is kind of
    modern miracles and there are things that if you can get them very generally as long as they are
    protective I think it's ridiculous not to now and then they're I guess as long as I'm talking about
    this our immune systems have very broadly two different ways of approaching things so we have
    something called the Nate immunity and an adaptive immunity and innate immunity is stuff that just
    works in general it's not necessarily specific to anything but it's sort of a shield and it could
    be literally like in Tagument your skin it's a big part of the innate immune system just keeping
    stuff out of your body we have a lot of mechanisms for detecting viral viral replication in ourselves
    so a lot of viruses end up producing double stranded RNA and so we have things that detect
    double stranded RNA which our bodies don't generally produce and then there's this whole series
    of innate anti viral things and these kinds of things that that's not the only mechanism that
    that's one these kinds of things give you kind of non-specific protection and then we have
    adaptive immunity which is sort of a learned immune response and the way this works it's complicated
    but the general gist of it is that your immune system has the ability to recognize things
    called antigens and these antigens are they're usually proteins it doesn't matter what they are
    but they're parts of infectious agents that have a specific shape to them you could think of it
    it's a little more complicated than that basically now when you've seen that thing
    first you have that innate immune response that's very non-specific this brings up
    a whole slew of immune cells they get exposed and then the ones that happen through this process
    it's actually evolution of real time in your body but basically you produce this huge set
    of completely random abilities to recognize things and then some of those are going to just by
    chance be better at recognizing any kind of antigen so you get exposed to that antigen the ones
    that can recognize it get in there they get angry they multiply and then they you know fine
    tune and they get better and better at recognizing it and now you have this population of memory cells
    that will be kind of at some places in your body and then if you get exposed to that same
    infectious agent again those memory cells get you know get recruited they get the tech you're
    able to detect this again and then they're ready to respond so you have a much faster
    immune response and much more specific immune response much more effective immune response
    if you've been exposed and this is again Danny fever it's a little bit different there are
    other things that are immune invasive that there are complications that get added to this but that's
    the general way of work so vaccinations just expose your body to a specific antigen or a set of
    antigen and now they've gone through this process of doing the adaptive immunity and now you're
    no longer naïve you're able to muster a response that is specific to whatever that antigen is
    very quickly that's the whole point of vaccination that's literally all it is
    and it's it's one of these things it's it's not complicated again just like just like Swiss
    cheese is not complicated you can explain these things to little kids and I see this as a massive
    it's an educational feeling but it's a public health failing that we don't teach people these kinds
    of things we don't teach people what mRNA is for example like mRNA messenger RNA is just single
    stranded RNA ribospolyc acid doesn't matter what that is but it's basically a string
    of bases a string of little pieces and each one of these things is like a letter and you've
    without getting into the chemistry these will be AUG and C and the way it works is in your DNA
    so in the nucleus of yourselves or your mitochondria and various places you have these double
    stranded sequences of paired letters these will be ATG and C and the T and the U are sort of
    swapped in the DNA and RNA but don't worry about that out but basically you have this long sequence
    of letters and a sequence of complementary letters and then those find to each other and then you have
    this double stranded letter that's your your genome and there are ways that that can replicate
    itself you can imagine you unzip it you make a copy now you've got two copies you fill in the other
    you make the complementary strand basically now you've got two copies but you can also
    unzip it and turn DNA and RNA and when you do that you've expressed the mRNA for a gene
    there's more stuff to it like you can do editing after this and like change things a little bit
    basically comes out of your DNA and you've got mRNA and then that gets that's called the transcription
    that gets translated into protein and again you don't need to know what protein is you don't
    need to know it's like a sequence of amino acids and three letters of the mRNA code for each
    single mall or single I'm trying to train that to get too much into the chemistry video
    each three letter sequence codes for a specific amino acid just think of it as like a
    building block at the protein and the particular string of amino acids that you make determines
    the structure of the protein and then that in turn determines the function of the protein and things
    can be structural proteins they could just be like collagen or last and they're adding like
    stiffness or flexibility or rigidity that kind of stuff they can often be enzymes so they're like
    specifically speeding up certain chemical reactions or lowering the activation energy for them
    um a little more complicated in that but um yeah those are common things and so if you
    you go DNA mRNA protein for most things that's how genes are expressed and so you know to
    say keep saying mRNA and they're I haven't touched viruses or vaccines or anything like that
    mRNA is just how your body makes protein it's how your body does basically you know the vast
    fast majority of things that it does and viruses also make proteins and turns out some viruses
    there are lots of different I'm I'm going to go off on a little tangent of a tangent I'm sorry
    that's what I do viruses for their genomes can have single or double stranded DNA genomes or
    RNA genomes there are some that are double stranded RNA there are some that are single stranded RNA
    there are some that are plus-sense single stranded RNA and a plus-sense means the coding
    RNA which means they're basically mRNA as their genome happens to include the COVID
    coronavirus is there are ones that are minus-sense and these have to be first uh you have the
    non-coding version replicated the coding and then that codes for proteins there are others
    that don't go through proteins they're just uh yeah and then there are things where they're like
    double stranded or single stranded DNA then you have to go through RNA or sometimes there are
    even things like retro viruses where have there's the where the genome will be RNA and then it
    has to go back into DNA gets encoded or incorporated into the host genome there are lots of
    complications but in the case of coronavirus is the genome itself is essentially mRNA if you get
    infected by a coronavirus you're replicating that viruses genome which means you're replicating
    massive amounts of the mRNA that comprises the genome so it's kind of weird that people get
    strange about this because it's just like if you understand what I just described
    which which again is stuff that you know like is like biology 101 level stuff or molecular biology
    no one but it's stuff that anyone could understand again and if we would teach people this kind of
    stuff then all of this nonsense about mRNA being somehow like a big deal or you know like something
    horrible or shocking or whatever which is go away like it wouldn't get traction because there's
    nothing to have traction it's just simply you know like it's like obsessing about a bolt you know
    like somehow a bolt is a bad thing there are bolts and everything yeah bolts are just kind of an
    essential component of how things are put together and you know it's not like there's something
    magical or evil about a bolt at similar way mRNA it's just mRNA and when I would when I
    took a virology the first time and going to date myself here a little bit but it was in the 90s
    it was I think about 20 years before mRNA vaccines became a practical reality and
    the professor incidentally Dr.

    Brooke Jacobs who I really like one of my best professors when I'm

    probably my favorite professor ever when I took a class certainly up there annoyingly he was also
    a good researcher and got yeah that did decent job with the funding so he was able to
    escape teaching and then now yeah because he was so good at research they pulled out of that and they
    let's somebody also it was not that very good at it teach the class but don't worry about that
    it's just it's kind of annoying the way the academia really like looks at teaching is the secondary
    thing this kind of annoyance nuisance that you're trying to like you have to do it but you don't
    really want to and it's kind of punishment if you're not successful and the other stuff so
    it's it did totally irrelevant but the thing is when we're when I was taking this class he was
    explaining you know like one day maybe if we're really lucky and we really work hard we'll figure
    out how to make an mRNA vaccine that was the goal and the reason that you want to do it is because
    if you know most vaccines if you're using some kind of a organism to to vaccinate people
    you either use a live attenuated organism which is to say it's a weaker version of the original
    and sometimes those attenuations are not great but you know it's less bad or you take the original
    one and you kill it and then you use a dead slash inactivated version and that is the way that
    we've vaccinated people for the longest time you know like up for for the first vaccinations
    for smallpox we're basically just taking post-struals drying them out grinding them up
    and then like blowing that shit up somebody's nose and because of how it was
    inoculated and on a bunch of other things people would end up getting a different kind of infection
    and sometimes getting some protection out of it but you'd still also kill people with it you know
    it's not a it's not great to get exposed to live virus especially when that is something that
    kills you so then you try to either kill it deactivated and sometimes when you deactivate it
    it doesn't all work like you'll get some leaks through or there's some process issue
    there was with a lot of air with a killed polio vaccine this happened actually
    it wasn't properly deactivated and then some people got polio from it that was you know
    but again like one thing I want to say is every time I talk about something like this
    that happened one time got detected got fixed and then it was not it was it was not like an ongoing
    thing and also also this is true with all this kind of stuff once it happened got fixed
    but even even with it happening at some low rate the protection that the vaccines gave
    was far far better than the risk of getting an actual infection from getting vaccinated
    it's one of these situations where you just end again I understand
    were terrible at understanding relative risks were terrible at understanding like you know
    some things like I said everything has risk associated with it but even if you have a vaccination
    that could cause you know it's like bad it could even kill you at a low rate if the rate at
    which that is killing you is less than the rate of getting killed by an actual infection
    then it still makes sense to be vaccinated and by far even in that worst case scenario with
    the polio virus where there is that one fuck up even then it actually was more protective
    than harmful you know that the relative risk was in no veriner like complete no veriner
    now so anyway that the thing that's cool about mRNA vaccines and the reason that we're working on them
    for so long is that you don't need to have the whole organism you can just take the part of the
    organism that is going to elicit protective immunity and you can just replicate that really quickly
    and not only that you could say okay here's this new organism I've never seen before
    and part of this is also you know 20 years ago it was a much bigger deal to get sequences
    but now you can get sequences for almost nothing like it's 100 bucks easily yeah most things
    probably like 50 bucks or significantly less it's not a big deal getting there are certain
    things that cost a little bit of money like building a genetic library and you but to get a sequence
    for an awful organism is not that hard today and not that expensive and once you have that
    sequence you can actually depending on how novel it is but if it's like a coronavirus you know
    because these are all related and you have a bunch of other examples of them you can kind of look
    and you don't you're not going to see like exactly the same parts of the genome and everything
    but you'll see sort of in the same sense that you have you know similar bones and you know
    the digits you have phalangees you have parcels and metotarsals and femurs and
    phobias and phobias and all of these kinds of things they're conserved so if you look at those
    in an orangutan and you look at those in a human they might not be exactly the same but you
    can kind of tell what they are you can look at the genomes of these viruses and kind of tell okay
    this is the spike protein that's going to be involved in recognizing you know like binding to
    the target cells and performing an infection this is going to be the DNA polymerase or RNA
    dependent RNA polymerase or whatever you know you can kind of look at these things and understand
    from the sequences what they do and this actually ends up being a really cool thing because if you
    have developed a mRNA vaccine against any kind of organism that's even closely related you can
    know what the targets are and this is how we were able to get such yeah for a novel vaccine
    every novel virus get these vaccines so quickly because we already had coronavirus vaccines
    that were mRNA based we already had targets once you have those targets you get the new sequence
    you put that in and printing up mRNA is is that quite the same as putting a thing into a
    printer and then printing it but it's so close now we have things that are literally called the
    DNA printers and you can just make whatever the sequence says that you that you want to you can
    make that and you can update it really quickly so you're able to go from something that we've never
    seen before you get the sequence takes almost no time and then you can say okay well these are
    the targets you can make the you can make several different vaccine candidates for different
    targets and then you know just go into testing test for safety and efficacy all is kind of
    stuff and you're there you're basically there and this is you know it's magical because you don't
    have the full organism you don't have anything that could revert you don't have to develop
    and attenuated version you don't have to spend a long time figuring out how to make an effective
    vaccine against whatever whatever you're trying to make it vaccine against you just sort of take
    the cookbook of this is how we make or at least a certain kind of immunity from mRNA to a protein
    to an immune response and this will be an effective immune response for whatever this agent is
    and so you can go from something that might be a many decades long process to something that you
    could do realistically in six months to a year potentially significantly faster and you know just
    it's hard to explain it's hard to convey just how amazing that is versus what we used to do
    but it is a ridiculous improvement orders of magnitude better so anyway of course the the main thing
    like I'm trying to explain enough there to get you to understand there's not like a reason to be
    particularly nervous about these things and also it is a just scientific and medical miracle
    that we were able to develop them as quickly as we were and similarly also all the
    all of the standard vaccinations that we have all of these are against diseases which are
    necessarily massively lethal but they definitely have a lot of morbidity and mortality associated
    some of them killed like if you look at not that distant of past before the era of vaccines
    and antibiotics most kids used to die like if you had a kid the odds were strongly
    in favor of them dying like they would be the die of what is now a preventable disease
    or you know often like you get an injury or something and oh you have an injury which leads
    to an infection which kills you now take some antibiotics and you survive oh you have a
    appendicitis that would have killed you and you can get a pretty easy medical procedure that saves you
    and again all these things have risk associated with them but they you know if you look at the
    relative risk it's massively better to to have these interventions than not so anyway the thing
    that I really want to focus on here is just that humans are in a lethal at perceiving or understanding
    relative risks are intuition against sort of what is dangerous and what is safe is terrible absolutely
    terrible yeah and you always hear the example of air travel is the safest or flying is the safest
    way to travel and driving is much more dangerous and yet people when they're driving and especially
    when they're driving themselves they feel like they're at much lower risk and you know this is just
    one example of what you think is the reality being completely opposite from the actual reality
    and similarly you're getting and an occupation you're getting jabbed to use the word
    with a sharp scary needle and not only that but it has you know who knows what kind of chemicals
    are inside just probably die hydrogen and oxide in that needle that's getting injected into
    you that's kind of scary right your perception of what that risk is associated with that is one thing
    and then the reality of that risk is another and you have to consider like what is the actual
    risk which is again very very low not zero nothing is zero risk as I said a couple of times here but
    it's a very low risk of a few things versus a very real and much larger risk of getting an infection
    and not being protected from it and you also have to factor in you know it's you're not here alone
    like there's the chance of you getting that infection and not being protected but there's also
    the chance of you getting an infection and transmitting that to other people and whether something
    is going to kill you or not whether it's going to permanently injure you or not if you go out
    and you're part of a chain of infection it might not kill you but is it going to kill one of
    the people that you infect or is it going to kill one of the people that they infect and if you look
    at the the case mortality rate for COVID because obviously that's one of their things I'm talking
    about here it is in the low single digits of percentage and the basic replication factor again
    depends on the variant and the bunch of other stuff but it could be as high as a 18 so you
    get infected it's very contagious you're infecting a bunch of people but even if it's say you know
    imagine it was something that's not that infectious and you're infecting like a handful of people
    you infect five people let's just say this is an abstract virus or something like this is not
    a specific one but you infect five people you get infected each one of those five people
    infect five people so one hop out five people are infected two hops out 25 people are infected
    and then 25 times five and then so on and so forth and very quickly you've gone from one to five
    to 25 to 125 to 125 to 625 and it just keeps going and going and going if the case mortality rate
    is one percent that is the same one percent of infections kill somebody then all you have to do is go
    out three hops and now you are like even if you were fine even if the people you infect that are
    fine now you've at least killed one person and if you wouldn't have infected people if you would have
    broken the chain of transmission at yourself that person would still be alive you go out one more
    step it's going to be five times that and so on and so forth so to me and I know this is controversial
    but we live in a society and we have a responsibility to each other and so you have your own
    personal protection and you also have to think about like what is the contribution
    of you taking measures to keep from getting infected and keep from infecting people and it is
    I mean I'm not going to say it's quite the same as like taking a gun and pointing it at a crowd
    closing your eyes and shooting it but it's not that different you know if you are letting people
    get infected then and they're going to let people get infected a couple of hops out somebody's dead
    now if you point to a crowd and pull the trigger versus you sneeze one seems much more proximal
    one is much easier to understand the causation but both of them you as surely lead to somebody's
    and of course also because everybody who gets infected in fact more people it's not just one death
    it's tens or hundreds or thousands of deaths a few hops out so you couldn't
    I don't know to me it seems like a no-brainer especially when the the cost is extremely
    enough or low and it has a benefit to you and you're also protecting other people so anyway
    I guess I wanted to say we're also terrible just in general and it really fits in here as well
    but we're terrible at understanding causal relationships with things it's not just that we're
    bad at understanding relative risk but it's very difficult for us to actually know
    a cause to be and there are a number of things that I think complicate this but fundamentally
    a lot of it is sort of the way that our brains work and we have a tendency to kind of overlearn
    and I would say it's sort of a tendency towards superstition so it's not to say that you're not
    learning things that are actually happening but I think I'm speculating a little bit here and why this
    is but I think probably for ancestors if you did something and then that almost killed you
    you don't want to do it again or if you saw somebody died from something you don't want to do that
    so it was probably better to see something and then notice something happens afterwards
    and just avoid that behavior and think that that might be the the thing that caused it
    probably more important than actually delving into what actually was the causal agent
    or what was the the causal chain so you know if there are three things you see somebody
    does somebody sneezes and then they die and somebody takes a walk over here and then they die
    or somebody flips a coin and then they die it might be well I didn't use good examples
    and then somebody runs toward a cliff and falls off the cliff you see those four things
    three of those four things there's nothing you could do about that they're not they're not
    actually causing somebody to die one of them they are but the problem is you want to have a learning
    model that catches the one where you know it is actually going to kill you and it's probably
    better to have false positives there like you learn things that are not really the case
    than to not learn things and then be killed by them or you know something else that's going to
    cause you know not necessarily your death but you know consequences that keep you from being
    able to reproduce or keep you from being able to reproduce as effectively or whatever
    so that is I think why we're bad at perceiving causation but ultimately the the consequence
    of that is we're very very prone to superstition and especially you know when something happens
    I mean this is true just in general if you notice patterns your brain will
    associate you know this happened and then that happened and you can go
    I always I was I was always liked this but there's a Tyler Viggin VHEN Tango Yankee Lima Echo
    Romeo Victor India Gulf Echo November TylerViggin dot com go there and there's this thing called
    spurious correlations and what this is is basically it's something called data
    dredging or p hacking which is you're looking this is an interesting thing I think and it
    gets to one of the reasons why like we don't we don't understand statistics as a general rule
    like even if you've taken statistics epidemiology is full of things where they're very counterintuitive
    or there's something that is very easy to misunderstand or draw the wrong conclusions from
    I've taken epidemiology a few times and that was the biggest takeaway I had which was
    it's just fraught there's I don't have a good example offhand but there are so many things that you
    learn about where you'll see it and there's something that seems like obviously this is you know
    obviously this is the conclusion you would draw obviously this is how stuff works and then you
    actually look at the statistics and it's something that's much more complicated or it's misleading or
    anything like this it's it's fraught I would just say so understanding that is one reason why I generally
    don't I don't wait too much into epidemiology other than the things that I'm pretty confident about
    and I'm much more of an expert at the topic than a lot of people who you know tended to say a lot
    of stuff about it and then even if you don't condemn epidemiology statistics is fraught and and
    again like you know you could be very strong in statistics and you're going to
    fuck up a epidemiology similarly you could be pretty good into which they're at intuition
    but you're gonna have terrible intuition about statistics there are lots of things
    yeah and you can just go through they're not really paradoxes but things that are surprising
    of often be called paradoxes that are things that are just very simple statistical things
    that are very easy to prove or demonstrate and they're just really really counterintuitive
    like the birthday paradox if you have more than not even that many people the odds are that you're
    going to have two people that have the same birthday you don't know what the birthday is going to be
    but you have 20 people in the room it's very very likely that two people have the same birthday
    shockingly likely even though each birthday is going to be one day out of 365 days of the year
    another one that's is the Matty Hall problem you have the three different doors
    two of them have nothing and then one of them has you know some big prize
    if you have somebody open the door at random and your choice is to take whatever is there
    or to reject it the odds of you succeeding in the next round are much better if you reject it
    that's very counterintuitive like it's very it's one of these things I don't want to get like
    deep into it but you can go through and do a lot of research on these things and there are
    shockingly many of them and there are just things that you know you will think they work a certain
    way and they just don't or or someone will really like coin tosses if you have a perfect
    fair coin and every time you toss it there's a 50 50 shot of it being heads or tails
    you would expect it in and I don't mean like maybe you have enough intuition that you don't
    expect that to go heads tails heads tails but you kind of kind of still do you kind of think oh
    it's going to be like half the time heads it has the time tails which means it sort of alternates
    or balances out the odds that you'll have any particular sequence are all equal which means that
    getting a hundred heads in a row seems very unlikely but there's nothing magical or special
    but you know keeps that from happening there's nothing like that's a perfectly reasonable sequence
    that is just as likely as heads tails heads tails tails or any other you know low and drop
    or any any other sequence that doesn't just look sort of random so to speak
    there there are a lot of things like this that again are just not intuitive and if you go to this
    site that I sort of mentioned before Tyler bigan.com and look at these various correlations
    you can find that if you look at one measure of fitness which is fitness and the sense of
    sort of how you're measuring I guess you could you'd call it a figure of merit but how you're
    measuring like two things are connected and this is the correlation coefficient so basically
    if two things are changing in a way that one goes up the other goes up one goes down the other
    goes down and so on if you guess a pattern and then you see it and you see a strong correlation that
    tells you one thing but if you pick a correlation and you have a large collection of patterns
    it's very easy to just sift through and find things that will be spurious correlations
    and those two things sound very similar but the difference is monumental this is one of the reasons
    why you know like you can almost be guaranteed that if you have enough patterns you'll find
    correlations of any level like if you if you have you in fact you can do some statistical analysis
    and figure out how many things you have to find in order to get some level of correlation so if you
    want like a 90% correlation you need this many samples you need 95% 99% correlation you just need
    this many and so on and so forth and it's a large number but it's not that large and if you get enough
    you can pick any level of correlation and find it you can also figure out any kind of p value
    I don't want to do what that is but it's a figure of what the odds are that something happened
    by chance and if you misapply this statistic then this is called p hacking if you misapply it by
    judging through data and looking for something then you can get something that looks like it's very good
    by that statistic but the problem is you're sort of circularly applying that statistic the
    find the thing that fits the statistic you're not using the statistic as it was meant to be used
    if that makes sense so this kind of stuff this is also actually why and I see this
    one all the time but for like audible air quotes AI bullshit somebody also say oh this has a 90%
    success rate or 90% accuracy or something like this what does that actually mean I mean if you're
    the way that these things are trained and the way that the things are
    are working here you're kind of misapplying a figure of merit in such a way that you're going to
    find something that looks like it's much better than it is also 90% is not great but you can find
    something that is going to fit 90% of the time especially especially if you're not
    careful about how you put in the data and how you do the analysis and you're not
    overfitting or overtraining or anything like this you can find something that works 90 or 95% of
    the time but it's completely wrong and it's just that it happens to work in the data
    corpus that you have that you're looking at similar what you can find something that doesn't look
    great and it's actually pretty pretty good it's just there's a lot of noise or there's some other
    but you have to I think the general thing that I would take away is your intuition is terrible at
    epidemiology even if you're really good at statistics and your intuition at statistics is really
    terrible guaranteed even if you're you've spent a lot of time studying these things and especially
    if you never have and it's very easy to to mislead yourself to to come to bad conclusions with things
    like this and especially like when something is a very simple explanation or answer especially
    to something that is really horrible like somebody dies you want an explanation for that you don't
    want to just oh they just like shit happens you want to go like what caused this or or your
    kid gets injured gets leukemia gets whatever any kind of thing like this you really want an answer
    and you know it's it's not only do you want an answer you want that answer to be something like
    so and so did something and it was somebody's fault it's not oh this cosmic rage just happened
    to land here and then this other one happened to land here and you know you had this weird
    free oxygen radical that happened to do this thing and the combination of those things caused
    this problem or you know you had just a random congenital heart defect and then something happened
    and you had heart attack that a very young age you want there to be a LA this was caused by a
    person who did something foolishly and I think I don't know if that's a cultural thing
    or if it's just an in a human thing but it definitely is a common thing and so the problem is
    you have a brain that is sitting there sitting there basically designed to be a superstition machine
    did just designed to look for patterns whether or not they're real and you have some kind of
    a correlation and though that correlation could be by chance it could be not by chance but you know
    it could seem really good but especially you know you filter out all the thousands or millions of
    things that something could be and you filter out all the things that have either complex
    causations or multifactorial causations or yeah and you come up with something where
    something happened that was easy to identify and then at some point in the future something all
    happened and you want there to be a simple explanation a causal explanation and so you come up
    with that and I think this is how you get to a lot of people with these sort of anti-vax beliefs because
    kids get a lot of vaccines that's just how it works that's the normal thing and that's not
    I'm not saying that that's you know like that's just how it should be frankly you have and
    you could just say like let's take something that's less charged kids are going to be exposed to
    the sun many many times you know you get exposed to the sun every day for your life probably just
    about and so there's something like you're going to get exposed to this thing many many times
    which means that if something else happens if something bad happens it's very easy to say
    well you know every kid that died of a bike crash was exposed to sunlight like isn't that
    interesting every single kid who has ever you know died from from bicycling was exposed to sunlight
    and if you had somebody sitting there trying to give you a bullshit answer and pointing a finger
    at you know it's like big sunlight is causing your kids to get these bike racks and you
    should avoid have your kids avoid that sunlight because yeah you don't want your kids to die
    it sounds ridiculous but that is where you are with these vaccinations because
    you have this thing this treatment that a lot of kids most kids almost all kids are getting a lot of
    and then something happens which a lot you know things like childhood leukemias or injuries
    or you know different things happen a lot during childhood enduring development also you have
    a lot of things where you might not have noticed something and independent of anything else
    that was going to come but because your brain is looking for these patterns you see oh this happened
    and then days or weeks or months or whatever later this happened they must be correlated they
    must be not only correlated but causal the the thing caused this other thing and especially you
    know you take that that's your kind of innate leaning and then you have somebody who's
    whatever reason maybe they have a financial interest or maybe whatever but for whatever reason
    they're pushing the narrative that a causes b now you get that and you're in that situation
    and you get really convinced that a causes b and this is one of these things like I'm not
    it's certainly possible obviously that a did cause b I'm not throwing that out I'm not
    dismissing it out of hand but the odds are that it didn't and how do you know if a caused b well
    it actually for an individual is very difficult to like the tease out causation they
    there are certain things where you know if if somebody shoots you and then you get killed you could
    probably probably connect those two things somebody takes a knife and chops off your finger
    and then you don't have a finger it's pretty easy to come up with the causation there but when
    it comes to something like getting vaccinated even the efficacy of a vaccine you are a single
    data point you're not something that you can't take a million copies of you and take half of
    them and randomly not apply the treatment and half of them and apply the treatment and then see what
    happens you can't control you can't conduct a control experiment you're just one path through reality
    and because of that it's actually fundamentally kind of impossible for things that are subtle
    the detect and determine causation and an individual basis now what you can do is look at populations
    and there are some very powerful statistical methods that are that are common in epidemiology
    that will help you tease out causation from correlation and detect these kinds of things
    and then there are also like the the gold standard would be sort of what I described you
    just like create a controlled experiment and you have two different populations which are as
    similar as we can make them half of them we apply a treatment half of them we don't and then you see
    what is the difference in outcomes that that would be something that is not necessarily ethical
    when it comes to medical or medical stuff but that's sort of the gold standard you can do it without
    that too but it gets more big it's heavier it's more complicated and then I don't even want to get
    into like we for for vaccinations we generally don't do that anymore because what we discovered
    for most of these is that it's not ethical to do that kind of a controlled experiment because we
    know going in for most of these things being vaccinated is actually going to be very protective
    and if it's something that you know it's something that you don't want somebody to get in the
    consequences of getting it really bad it's just not ethical not the treat them and we also know
    that the risk is very low and we know the probability of efficacy probably decent and just from
    past experience like this is not like we just decided it so there are reasons why we don't do that
    but that is the gold standard and so you know like even in yourself like the the kind of example
    that I would give here because it's something that I hear people jump to a lot but
    somebody that say say even you got a vaccine you were vaccinated and then something happens
    and because I'm kind of on topic here let's let's say you got a rash now did the vaccine
    cause the rash that's a complicated question and it's going to be you know I would argue it's
    actually almost impossible to know definitively now you can say like okay well it's focused around
    wherever you were vaccinated well is that from an immune that like an allergic reaction or
    is it an infection is it that there was some kind of chemical contamination and it's just an irritation
    and this is another thing also like people do not have a great training in what an allergic reaction
    looks like this is this is one of these things I wish you know we should teach people early and
    often obviously like CPR or basic first aid stop the bleed kind of stuff but you should definitely
    also teach people to know the difference between say food poisoning and infection
    you know food poisoning rapid onset you eat and then 30 minutes 60 90 minutes later
    you're vomiting you have diarrhea it's very fast versus an infection usually more than 24 hours
    often 48 72 hours kind of incubation period and then it's growing and then you get sick
    after you've been exposed.

    Understanding the difference and those kinds of things

    understanding the difference in course understanding the you know like influenza
    generally speaking is like a two week hellish kind of course you get exposed 48 72 hours later
    you present with symptoms and then for like 14 days you'll feel like complete shit you'll have a high
    fever and you'll have like phone and muscle aches and you have a bunch of stuff
    and it's fairly characteristics stuff although flu like symptoms are going to be common for
    pretty much any viral in fact most infections just in general because innate immunity is the cause of
    a lot of these things and adaptive immunity is also but you know like understanding that kind of stuff
    understanding that you know like if you get a cold or what you would call a cold not the same as the flu
    and if you haven't had a definitive test for influenza you probably didn't have the flu and if you
    had the flu you probably would know because again hellish two weeks and then also like we don't do
    we don't do training for like how to deal with an abrasion or or the thing that I'm trying to get
    to hear what is an immune what is an allergic reaction look like you know there are certain
    things that are very characteristic of allergic reactions and you'll see people say like oh I'm
    allergic to this food I think because they don't want to say they don't like it or something like
    that or they don't want to try it whatever it is but you know an actual allergic reaction is like
    information swelling redness, itching sneezing, you know there are certain signs and
    symptoms that just come directly from that and then there are other things that are not
    you know, probably not an allergic reaction and you see people all the time talking about oh I've got
    allergies and it's something that is not in the category of things that
    allergies cause and then for me like the question is do I want to they want to have a conflict
    they want to argue with this person probably not but I also don't want to leave them not knowing
    or with a misunderstanding it's just it's just the mess I don't like it but the point of all that
    even in the case of you got to and you got some kind of intervention and then something happened
    within yourself determining the causation is very difficult and determining like what it is
    specifically that caused something even more difficult and also you have the situation that
    you know if you you know so you get vaccinated and then a week later you get hit by a car
    probably didn't have anything to do with you know you could have gotten hit by a car anytime
    could have been the previous week but because it followed the vaccination now you've got this thing in
    your head that is oh that must have caused it somehow this is again it's very superstitious magical
    thinking kind of thing but it's it's an annoying thing that people will do and particularly when you
    got people telling you all the bad things that come from vaccines so I think yeah that I could just keep
    rambling on about this but the thing that I want to get to here the last thing on this one and
    the biggest frustration for me on this topic is there's this thing called various which is the
    vaccine what is it diverse reaction they should actually know that okay sorry it is the vaccine
    adverse event reporting system which is the thing and it's not the only one we have a bunch of
    these in different countries and basically the idea is it's this database that if you have been
    vaccinated or you could just been vaccinated or somebody you know your patient has been vaccinated
    and then literally anything happens afterwards you can put that in this database and this database
    to be clear is not saying that a caused b it's not saying that everything that's in the database
    that happened after somebody was vaccinated was caused by the vaccine but what this is is this big
    wide dense net that's designed so that if there is anything that happens if there is anything that
    the vaccine near any vaccine is causing it will get caught in this net and so the idea is basically
    this is how it's supposed to work and how it does pretty much work until people kind of short
    circuit of this and fucked things up but basically what it does is if there is any kind of an
    actual causal thing it gets caught in there and then somebody can take that data and take other
    data and use those epidemiological techniques that I was describing before if it detect first of all
    if there is a real correlation so is it this doesn't mean that there's causation but you know like
    you get people who have been vaccinated also have this thing with some higher than the baseline
    popular probability so this is the thing you also if the consider is like in the population
    everything happens at a certain rate and so if you get some kind of intervention does that go up
    now just because the population that has had a lot of vaccinations has a lot of something else
    does not mean that the vaccinations cause that thing you might say that the population with a lot of
    vaccinations tends to have a higher terminal degree so more undergraduate degrees more graduate with
    degrees than the general population it's not the vaccines necessarily cause that it's the you know
    these things are you know correlated through other processes and one thing that leads to getting
    vaccinated is also correlated with getting a higher education for example it doesn't mean that
    a causes b it doesn't mean also like because there are people that would try to point this out
    they're like oh that means it's people that are more educated you know it's not that either
    it's other things cause both of them although I would argue you know but I don't want to get into
    that right now I would say it is it's pretty pretty non-brand or pretty no-brand or kind of thing
    but anyway the the reason that we have this various thing the reason that it exists in the first place
    and the reason that we know vaccines are so fucking safe is that the whole
    point of the system is that anything that does you know anything that does happen gets caught in there
    gets detected and then anyone in the world who wants to and look at that data they can publish
    something on it and then you know in a peer reviewed journal or even in bio archive now
    and other people can look at that and they can say like oh well this data is good and this is
    actually real which is kind of how science is supposed to work or they can say you know like oh
    no this is actually not real because of this this is this is this confounding variable it was
    this other thing and if it's real and it's there people will know people will see and you can't
    really deny it it is because of the existence of this various database that we know how safe
    vaccines are and the answers they're very very safe and it is frustrating incredibly frustrating
    to me personally and I'm sure to do many other people that antifacts are go to this fucking
    database which again so it is the reason that we know how safe vaccines are and they find the
    stuff that's just random shit caught in the net and they decide that that actually is
    causally linked not just that it's correlated which we don't even know just from it being in the
    database you just know B followed A like you just know these two things happened it doesn't say
    even that they're correlated it could just be be still followed A or be what have happened
    completely independent could even be that B happens less frequently after you're vaccinated
    but you're catching those events that happened after being vaccinated and because you're
    catching them all you have this thing that sort of highlights what is this stuff that's worth
    looking at people can look at those things and then if there is some kind of real risk and there
    are risks again it's not everything has risk but the things that are real risks get detected
    and usually there are things that are extremely infrequent and you need something like this because
    you would need to like in order to detect the signal you need to vaccinate like trillions of
    people which you're not going to be able to do otherwise the noise would be would be too great they're
    you know and I'm using that kind of partly is an exaggerated example but also like a lot of these
    actual adverse consequences are very very low rate kind of things and it's only because we have
    such a sensitive that makes that we can even know that they exist and when you do see stuff like that
    little things end up being enough to sort of stop stuff or to change stuff and once again
    it's frustrating on so many levels that people look at this stuff that is the reason that we know
    how safe these things are and the fact that they're very safe and they decide that they're dangerous
    and they decide that there's some kind of a causal thing that just doesn't exist and it it's
    physically painful it's physically frustrating and I wish that people down I don't think I assume that
    nobody's going to listen to me rambling about this stuff and then change their minds but I would really
    like somebody to I don't know change other people's minds or explain things to people better than I
    have or just to you know like understand these things either not that complicated be there
    things that you could actually understand and to see you know it's not a judgment against people
    that you know if your kid gets sick or they're something wrong with your kid or there's something
    that's perceived to be wrong with your kid and you're trying to like desperately find an explanation
    for it and then you have some hooks to telling you that that explanation is this that doesn't
    that that's not a judgment against you more a judgment against them but it's also like one of
    these things where it's just like it's physically painful that people are lying to you and they're
    causing harm and they're killing people to bring back diseases which are actually really bad
    and kill a lot of kids cause a lot of you know not just deaths because deaths are bad but you know
    like there are a lot of long-term consequences there are things like congenital issues that happen
    when you're infected with certain things in in utero and you know because we've got good
    vaccinations we have these you're avoiding a lot of these things so somewhere we I mean you know like
    you could just look at like prenatal nutrition there are a lot of birth defects that are very
    easily preventable with very simple you know like just having having enough b vitamins for example
    or you know like just certain simple things and taking these things away that we've learned
    that getting rid of the public health measures like vaccinations similar we also like so many
    people now being trained to be averse to the masking like you see people who are sick and they're not
    not looking like they're obviously sick they're obviously having a respiratory infection
    is probably communicable and they're going out into the public and not taking any kind of measure
    to prevent it and it's just like yeah I don't know it's it's I don't have the language to convey
    how frustrating and annoying this is to me just it's like such a simple basic fucking thing
    and we can't do it and doesn't need to be this way I want to get I would like to get better than
    than we were but I definitely want to be to the point where you know like you're not getting people
    to have cervical cancer who could easily have it prevented with HPV vaccine you're not getting
    people to have you know hepatitis by something that could be easily preventable by a vaccine
    you're not getting people to you know have pneumonia or you know have post viral symptoms
    by things that you could easily prevent with vaccines and with masking and with just like
    being a decent fucking human being and if you have employees letting them
    in fact I wouldn't say insisting that they don't come into work when they're sick
    and if you have you pay them pay them please but don't come into work thank you very much
    talk about this a lot but there's a Bureau of Labor Statistics study from I didn't know what year
    it was 1618 something like that it showed that within the US alone having unlimited paid
    sick time would actually save billions and billions of dollars and it's one of these things like
    it's almost like our policies and a lot of our things in this country are just designed
    to make things worse like they're not really helpful we're not good and it's just it's irritating
    but anyway hopefully hopefully this wasn't completely a waste of time and hopefully also
    worth listening to I'm a little it will say little distracted because the walls in this
    place are paper thin and like I can hear people fucking so I'm guessing people can hear me and
    sitting here and it makes me extra self-conscious but I still wanted to get this while I had
    some chance to record something I have another one I think I'm not gonna do today but hopefully
    we do soon and hopefully I'll be in a better place where I'm not so worried about it but
    thanks for listening as ever please vaccinate your kids and vaccinate yourself and
    please also just don't listen to these fucking just assholes that are scaring you and telling you
    lies it's irritating understand also you know and this is like the thing that I am
    I I fucking hate the fact that pharmaceutical companies are for profit they take
    the thing that's problematic about them pharmaceutical companies the companies that make vaccines
    all of these it sucks that they're for profit it sucks that they are making money on these things
    and that's just making money but making ridiculous amounts of money but people get kind of twisted and
    bent up out of this one and the thing that sucks about it is that we have spent billions and billions
    of dollars on any drug and you've actually anything like that billions upon billions of dollars
    of public money has gone into developing this thing whether it's the treatment against hepatitis C
    which is not very expensive to make and which could have you know essentially eradicated
    have to see if you made it very cheap and got people to the take it but instead it became like a
    massive cash cow for rich people at like an obscene amount per dose that's the problem it's not
    they're pushing things through that are not safe although they're certainly like pushing for
    drugs that are not safe and things like this or that are less safe than they should be but for
    these vaccines you have theirs you have things like that if they were unsafe we would detect them
    the thing that sucks about the mRNA vaccines is not that it's an unsafe thing it's that these are
    things that are very safe very effective and frankly very easy to make and if we had the
    infrastructure set up to make these you could you know some new emerging bacteria infectious disease
    comes up and you could build new vaccines against it in a seemingly little time like ridiculously
    overnight almost and the fact that we don't have that infrastructure the fact that that's not set up
    the fact that people who have patents who again got those patents based on stuff that was developed
    by US and other taxpayer dollars and they're getting to make a scene amounts of money for
    stuff that is damn near free to make and saves lives that is the real obscenity that is the
    problem with the for profit part not that they're pushing things through that are not safe
    in fact part of you know they they don't have an interest really pushing things through
    that are not safe because it's bad for business if you actually have stuff that's which is one
    of the reasons why whenever you know you'll often see things that are pulled but are sometimes
    good drugs but they have a certain risk and they decide that that risk is too much and you know
    that the real problem again we paid for this shit just just like insulin we paid for that
    shit the people who did the initial patents on it took like a dollar because they wanted it to be
    open and free for everybody and we've spent so much time and effort making transgenic organisms
    that can express the that they can basically make insulin that is either indistinguishable
    from human or better in some ways and we can do it now using the same kinds of processes you
    use to prepare and it is extremely cheap and extremely efficient to do and costs almost nothing
    produce to make that is to say they could be making a profit and the monthly expense that somebody
    with diabetes would would be paying is like dollars like single digit dollars and instead they've
    turned this into essentially a lifelong racket where you're just going to be stuck for the rest of
    your life paying a toll just to be alive that's the thing that sucks it should be anything like
    this like it it's fine to sort of zero out it's fine to cover the costs and the expenses
    it's even fine I think and I know people that would disagree with this I don't know that it's
    necessarily bad to make some profit on stuff to some extent although yeah but you don't have to make
    all the fucking money you don't have to extort people who are going to die without stuff and you don't
    have to end like going back to these vaccines because these companies had these patents they didn't
    want to release the patents and a lot of places especially under developed countries weren't able
    to get people vaccinated and people just died and not only did people die you have a huge
    reservoir of people where they're just passing infections back and forth which is an opportunity for
    stuff to evolve and then eventually it comes you know because the world is not a bunch of little
    bubbles that's interconnected eventually it comes back to wherever you are and now the vaccines don't
    work as well and yeah you're just things are just much worse than they have to be not because
    people with money are trying to get things through their unsafe but because people with money are
    keeping people from being able to have these treatments and vaccines and all of these other
    things because they're a way to make money and that is the real problem and it is so annoying that
    people have twisted it into the exact opposite it's just so anyway this time I think I am actually
    done this felt it's because I'm very self-conscious about like the paper thin walls I feel like
    I'm probably talking weird I'm feeling like I'm not like fully into this I'm also tired as I
    always am recently but I hope it was okay I hope it was interesting I hope there was something in there that was
    was useful go go again for that Tyler Vengen type of Viggen rather dot com
    spurious conclusions about spurious can't even speak spurious correlations go to the TylerViggen dot
    com spurious correlations section find it on this homepage and there it
    either a lot of interesting funny things in there because it's just random you know almost deliberately
    obviously there's no reason that this is causing this and then and I hate audible airports AI
    especially LLMs and bullshit factories that are based on plagiarism and ecological catastrophes
    but one thing that I actually kind of like here is they show they kill have stuff make up
    an explanation for why this correlation exists and it's it's laughable and it's all fiction
    and hopefully it's obvious and then I think it kind of showing it shines the light on
    both what's bad about these LLMs that they'll just make shut up and it also shines the light on
    how you can make up an explanation for basically anything if you really want to
    and it's one of the few uses for that kind of stuff that I would I would say is not terrible
    I it's still rather not see it because it's it's it's very wasteful and it's
    probably encouraging people to use the same kind of stuff but of the places that I've seen it used
    one of the few places where I don't find it anyway go there look at this stuff it's kind of
    entertaining I do it every like six months or so then something comes up and then I'll go through a
    bunch of them and it's it's just funny because like because they're correlations
    and some of them were pretty good you'll see these two patterns two time series and they'll be
    like you'll look at it you know okay you could easily convince yourself that there's something there
    and you can also look at what they are and you can just know probably not that necessarily
    you don't necessarily know anything upreory but probably probably not with that
    thanks as ever for listening and so yeah

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  • Agnostic

    Image: Thomas Henry Huxley in the 1860s. He was the first to decisively coin the term agnosticism. By Ernest Edwards National Institutes of Health public domain

    Full transcript:

    Hey there I'm Scott and this is Tangents

    Well, today is the sixth of I was going to say

    December for some reason, but November 2025,
    it is kind of hard to believe

    They're like a blink ago, I started my job,

    my last job at ASU, and that was in like
    two years ago, basically, a little bit more

    And then I blink ago after that, that job ended

    I was planning on going to Japan, South Korea,

    China, Vietnam, and Thailand, and then I did that,
    and then I was back

    And I've been back like two months now,

    and it's disturbing how fast time goes

    I mean, I know this is not the most profound observation

    that anyone could make

    But I remember when I was a kid, I was a kid,

    and like a week seemed interminable

    It seemed like forever

    And kind of in a bad way, in some sense,

    I mean, it wasn't a terrible experience,
    like I wasn't always complaining,
    but there would be things where you'd be looking forward
    to something, and it'd be a week away

    And it just seemed like a forever

    And now, I blink my eyes and years have gone by

    I've been, like, I'm back on Facebook,

    don't feel great about it, but I am

    And because I started my account there,

    I'm still connected to the people I was connected to before

    And there are a bunch of people that I'm connected to there

    who, and didn't link them as well,
    who I knew in graduate school

    And I look at these guys, and they're like,

    what the fuck happened to you, you're old now

    And, you know, so many of them also, the dudes,

    obviously lost their hair, they're bald

    And you're seeing these bald guys,

    and you're just like, what the fuck happened?
    And then of course, the weird thing is,
    I didn't actually, like, they're very old now

    I'm not, I don't know how that happens

    But no, I mean, like, we're all kind of the same age

    And it's just weird, it's just fucking weird

    I was just talking to somebody I used to work with

    after my PhD, and his wife is the sister of someone
    I used to date

    And her kid, who she had, after we broke up,

    less than a year after we broke up, not mine

    But, I have a history for some reason

    of being with people right before the end up getting
    pregnant, like, you know, just a month or two,
    and then they get with somebody else and have a kid

    In her case, I guess I don't want to talk too much about it,

    but I was not in a great place to be in a relationship
    that was sort of long term then

    There was someone in grad school who I really liked

    And I don't know that she ever would have

    considered me as even a potential partner

    But she definitely was very flirty, let's just say,

    and was very hot and cold

    Like, the first time we started talking online,

    this was back when we had the Google talk,
    or so I think that was what it was called

    She talked

    And it was Friday night, and she just message me out of the blue

    And we had, I guess that the transcripts

    are probably someplace, not that I want to go back
    and look through those, but we had a really good talk
    for hours and hours that night

    And I would kind of see her every once in a while,

    and we'd hang out a little bit, and then she'd get fucking weird,
    and then she'd be hot again and cold again,
    and it was, we'd never, we'd never, to be clear,
    dated or anything like that

    But it was just weird

    It was, and, you know, I was quite infatuated with her

    I was, it was one of my last real,

    like strong, lemurance kind of experiences

    I've had, don't give me wrong

    I've had a few sense, and not a few before

    But somehow with her, just was extremely, extremely interested

    And, you know, I knew that that wasn't gonna work

    And so, you know, ended up in a couple of other relationships

    But I wasn't really, I don't know,

    hadn't really let go of the idea of maybe

    And also, like there was this thing that, you know,

    with my ex-wife, I mean, it's not that I wasn't,
    like, didn't care for her, but we weren't, you know,
    she was the first person I was ever really with romantically,
    or physically, for that matter

    I kind of, like, soft-dated a couple people before,

    but then, you know, nothing had all serious

    One of, one of those actually, also, she had a kid,

    not long after we sort of soft-dated

    And, I don't know, soft-dated as the rape,

    but, you know, not really quite dating,
    but that, whatever it is

    Not, you know, not dating, per se,

    but, you know, like, fault-dated ish
    in the vicinity of a date, or several

    But, anyway, we sort of parted ways,

    and then she got with some English guy
    who, I think they were only together very briefly,
    but got pregnant, had a kid

    And that kid, I mean, years ago already,

    this is, you know, not the date myself here,
    but years ago, that kid was already 18

    And I think maybe going to school,

    I say going to school, I mean, university

    And then you just think about, like, the time

    and the, it's just wild

    So, and you think, also, like, if I would have had a kid

    with her, not that we were going to have a kid,
    but you know, it's like, at that time, just for time scale,
    I would have a kid who is probably
    could have a PhD by now for all I know

    It's wild, it's hard to wrap your mind around,

    how fast time goes

    And especially, like, it just keeps accelerating

    And I think about, like, how fast it must go for my mom,

    you know, like, it goes faster and faster for me,
    and she's had decades more

    So, it's just like, you

    And, I don't know, I think about that,

    and then I think, getting back to this person that I was with,
    was actually with

    We were together

    And I, of the people that I've been with,

    I think probably, you know, that, I guess in the scale of,
    like, if you have the perspective of all the relationships
    that you've been in, probably the one that I would have stayed
    with, except, like, a couple of things

    With one, again, I was still not really completely

    letting go of this other one

    That wasn't really even a relationship

    But, you know, and it was very,

    I don't know, she was, I don't want to get too much into that

    But it was, like, I've not had many people on Facebook

    where I've been disconnected and reconnected,
    disconnected and reconnected, even once

    And with her, it was, like, a half dozen times

    And, like, I wouldn't see her for nine months,

    and then we get chummy again, and then wouldn't see her
    for a little while, and then it'd be, like,
    every day we're having coffee in our office for a while

    And then it was just fucking weird

    It was just in retrospect and in perspective,

    it was just weird, and unfortunate

    But, I don't know, like, if she ever was interested,

    I don't know how that would have gone

    Yeah, it's one of those things, like, maybe the idea

    is better than the reality

    I don't know, I really don't

    But, I was with this other person, and I think,

    I think it would have been actually kind of okay,
    but her sister was, yeah, she got married,
    she was pregnant, she was having a kid,
    and there was, like, we weren't together that far
    or that much at this point

    And she's already really interested

    in having a kid and getting married

    And it's just, like, the weird thing is now,

    at this, at, by current, big age, not that big of age,
    but, like, in my current age, looking back,
    like having a kid doesn't seem like the worst idea

    Now, I can imagine, I'm not exactly jealous of people

    with them, but I do see, like, I watch a lot of pilots
    on YouTube

    And there's one that I don't really watch that much,

    but occasionally, and he has a couple daughters,
    and he's taught them to fly, and they fly together,
    and all those kind of stuff, and actually, I see that,
    and it's like, that kind of, yeah, I see some appeal to that

    I see some, I think that I have some things,

    some qualities, and I don't mean, like,
    in the sense of passing them on genetically,
    but just like raising somebody with them,
    I think they would actually be good qualities
    to the past on, and to maintain,
    and I think they would actually be,
    that I think they would be good

    I think they would be good

    They're the things that the world would be a better place

    with more people, with certain things that I have

    And, you know, like I'm saying, I don't know,

    maybe I'm just, everybody thinks too highly of themselves,
    or whatever, but I do think I have some things

    I think, like, one of them, and actually,

    this is the thing I wanted to talk about today,
    that's the title of this, is agnosticism,
    or agnostic, I think is what I'm gonna call it

    And the funny thing is, I'm not agnostic

    I'm absolutely not, I don't think at any point in my life,

    I have ever been anything that I would call agnostic

    I've basically always been non-religious

    I was raised without religion, and frankly,

    I am, I've talked about this a few times,
    but I'm very thankful that I was raised without it

    I'm very thankful that it wasn't really imposed on me,

    that I didn't, the thing here is I just,
    I see people who were raised with it,
    and it's just very difficult for them, especially,
    I mean, you know, like, I'm not saying like day-to-day,
    always they seem to find some community
    and comfort in it, sometimes

    But you see people where they lose a kid,

    or have some kind of tragedy before them,
    or whatever, anything, anything like that

    And you have this problem that you have to sort of resolve

    with yourself, especially when I talk about religion,
    I'm here talking primarily, like,
    Judeo-Christian sort of traditions

    But, you see people with these things,

    and they have this idea of a single deity that is all loving,
    and good, and powerful, and all those kind of stuff

    And then their kid died, and how do you deal with that?

    And it tortures them

    And I'm not saying like, anything could make that a okay thing,

    but I just, I find great comfort in not being religious

    Or for a lot of reasons, I think, you know,

    but one of the biggest ones,
    I did at one point when I was kind of like in high school,
    I sort of thought about like the age of the universe,
    and I was just, it was keeping me up at night,
    thinking about like how long a human lifetime is,
    and my perception of time at the time, especially

    And so, you know, you think about that,

    and then you think, on the planet at the time,
    I don't know how many billions of people there were,
    they were like six, less than probably less than seven,
    time is wild, another or over eight

    But, you think about that, that means every year,

    that obviously have people going to sleep,
    so it's not exactly, say, six billion, seven billion years
    of experience of, I mean, really,
    if you think like a third of your life,
    you're asleep more or less,
    that means it's really like,
    say there were six billion people at the time,
    I don't know how many it was,
    but just like, rough numbers, six billion people,
    and two thirds of that is actual subjective experience, it's time

    And so that means, what does that,

    four billion per year?
    That means that every few years,
    you've got the lifetime of the universe,
    worth of subjective time

    And you think about that

    And then on top of that, you think about like,

    well, that is a few years,
    the duration of human,
    like the extent to which humans have lived on the planet,
    even though the population was long ago, much smaller,
    do you add all that time up?
    And then you think about all the other
    is sentient beings on the planet

    And you add all that time, I'm up

    And it just, it really fucked with me

    And I was just thinking about how long the universe

    has been here, and that really fucked with me

    And then you think also about the heat death,

    or anything like this

    And it just things like that kind of mess with me

    And I don't think I ever really came

    to a durable transferable conclusion about all of that stuff

    Like it didn't resolve in a way

    that I could tell you this,
    and then that is going to comfort you

    But in going through that exercise myself,

    it's sort of at first overwhelmed me

    And then I sort of started accepting it

    And then I started being okay with it,

    and then more than okay with it

    And I, the universe that I inhabit in some sense

    is sort of chaotic and random, and there's no,
    I'm not saying like, it's just some extent to agnosticism

    But as far as I know, there's no higher power

    Now, the reason I say I'm not agnostic is agnostic implies,

    I think it basically is that you don't have any understanding

    And it's even impossible to know the nature

    or existence of airports God

    The problem with that is of course it assumes

    the context of there is a God or there isn't a God

    And it's specifically that sort of monophistic today

    of Christian type of God, especially Christian God

    And so you kind of think about it,

    and it's like, it's still like Pascal's wager,
    which it sounds, it's one of those things
    that gets sounds like a reasonable deal
    if you're coming from that tradition
    if you were raised with it

    And this is one of the reasons why, again,

    I'm very thankful I wasn't raised with it,
    because I think when people are raised with certain belief
    systems like these, even the ones that I know
    who have left them, that the people who have become
    atheists in time or agnostic or whatever,
    they never really fully sing to escape that framework
    that was laid out for them that they sort of like,
    God, when the cement in their brains was wet,
    they got the sort of spiritual understanding of the universe,
    like the universe works in a certain way

    And even when they take away the sort of formal religion

    or anything like that, they still have this sort of
    spiritual thing that they talk about
    and all those other stuff

    That the way that I see the universe

    does not have any of that

    And in fact, to me, that stuff doesn't make sense

    And like, I mean, part of it is also,

    and I don't mean to get all like super,
    oh, I'm a physicist, but I am a physicist

    And you think about what would be,

    what would it even mean to have a spiritual plane?
    And you can't see it, but I'm doing giant novelty
    ear quotes, or anything, what does that even mean?
    Do you have, because you could have something,
    let me really just do the exercise with me

    You could either have something that exists outside

    of the universe or, you know,
    and essentially like, in a way that you can't
    couple two, you can't connect to

    And then does that even have a real meaning?

    Or you have something that exists that somehow is connected
    to reality, and then how is that different
    than an electromagnetic field?
    Or, you know, in any kind of like the Higgs field,
    or whatever

    And so you think about that, and so it just sort of,

    it doesn't make it like there, it doesn't exist

    But to me, basically, it says, if it does exist,

    then it's amenable to scientific method
    and to the epistemology that,
    and I mean, obviously there is the good-o incompleteness theorem
    that says, you know, any logical framework
    has unanswerable questions within the framework
    and this kind of stuff

    So you could use that in way of your hands

    But you know, basically, as I see it,

    either that stuff exists in a way that is not really special,
    or it doesn't exist in any meaningful way

    And similarly, and this probably comes,

    I really kind of blame, obviously,
    like a lot of different things

    But I think our track, the next generation,

    really sort of did the nail on the head for meaning on this

    It just kind of eliminated the chance of me

    even ever thinking about any of this stuff
    as a real thing, or in a meaningful way

    Because in there, they have this character cue

    And cue comes from a civilization,

    which is basically from the perspective of humans
    omnipotent omniscient

    And you know, essentially very godlike

    in terms of, again, the sort of Christian god
    or the Judeo-Christian god,
    trying to be careful between,
    I don't wanna just munch all the stuff together
    because I know there are a lot of,
    a lot of details, and then if you go to other god systems,
    another religious systems,
    things get very complicated

    It's a problem, it is definitely also a problem

    It's one of the reasons that there are a lot of reasons

    why I also don't call myself an atheist

    Because atheists, agnostic says you don't know

    and you can't know, atheists says that you know
    that a god doesn't exist

    And my non-religious says that the concept,

    that it's a statement that doesn't have any meaning

    Like, what does it mean to say that a god exists or not?

    Because if you have an endothical,
    like, back to this Q thing, but what properties
    would your god have or gods have that really
    or distinct from something like that?
    Or even, you don't even have to go that far

    I mean, you imagine if you're a human being,

    you can get a pound of sugar
    and take that to an ant colony

    And that is like so much,

    they can inconceivable amount of resource for them
    that they just couldn't, it basically makes you on netizen

    If you wanted, you could pour molten lead

    into their colony

    That's so much energy compared to what they have access to

    It's so much material, it's so much destruction

    It's just, and you think about that sort of thing

    except now you're the ant

    And there's somebody else with a technology,

    whether it's an individual or a species
    or civilization or whatever,
    some kind of technical ability
    to muster that kind of level of energy,
    or that level of mass or whatever

    You know, they certainly with a flick of the wrist

    could flatten you

    I mean, you don't even have to get that advanced

    because humans already have,
    like, we've got thermonuclear weapons, right?
    They're not, they're not huge

    They're not like destructive on the scale of

    the planet going away

    But you can make a city go away in a blank,

    like literally you could make a building go away

    And you think about, from the perspective

    of being just an individual human,
    if you were trying to dismantle,
    it's an interesting thing actually
    because if you go back, I think it was the Assyrians

    They raised cities and had to just do a quick search

    to make sure I was not attributing this to the wrong person

    But yeah, it was the ancient Assyrians would raise cities

    And when I say raised cities,

    I mean, they would salt the earth,
    they would destroy everything

    And essentially, like a nuclear bomb went off

    But you think about the amount of time

    and effort it would take
    or a bunch of people to do that,
    versus the flash of light and explosion
    from compressing plutonium or whatever

    And yeah, especially if you have,

    do a little fusion after that or boost some stuff
    and do fusion fusion vision or whatever you want to do

    Any of that kind of stuff

    And that is our level of technology now

    If you imagine you have the ability

    to, with a snap of your finger,
    muster orders and orders of magnitude more than that,
    literally just Zarbama's all day,
    every day across the whole surface of a planet

    And that's not a big deal to you

    That's very god-like

    Now that's in the disruptive sense,

    but you could imagine also
    staying in the framework of Star Trek

    If you have replicators and phasers

    and all this kind of stuff,
    you can carve mountains

    You could build a building

    Or some intricate detailed artwork

    that would take a thousand artisans a thousand years
    to build

    You could do it in minutes

    And that's not that hard to imagine

    someone with that kind of technology

    Even if you don't have like actual replicators

    or not, something that you could have,
    you could certainly have like 3D printers
    that are very efficient and very fast,
    or something that's like that,
    or nanofabrication on a massive scale,
    or you could just sort of imagine
    and having that level of technology,
    how is that different in a meaningful way
    from something god-like,
    or something that you might call a god?
    And in fact, you might even say,
    if I have that technology
    and I wanted to impersonate a deity,
    how would you know the difference?
    Especially if you are coming from a civilization
    where you're like the ant

    If you want anything,

    you want a million tons of gold,
    it's like, okay, I mean you

    And it's there

    Just no effort

    It's not a big deal for me

    And to you, it's the biggest deal in the world

    Yeah, or whatever it is, whatever resource it is,

    you're in the desert,
    you want huge amounts of water,
    and I can snap, I shingers,
    and all of a sudden there's a massive lake in the desert

    You just imagine that sort of thing

    Somebody who's coming from a primitive society

    might very well think that is very god-like

    And you start thinking practically

    what would be,
    this isn't really where I wanted to go specifically
    but this is just part of why I'm non-religious again
    instead of agnostic

    But what would it take to say, okay, this is something

    that only what you're calling a god
    could do or could be?
    And I guess this does get into,
    if you're agnostic, you don't know the nature
    of that being

    You could say, well, there's something unknowable about it

    And I guess you could go to like Hindu traditions

    where deities are sort of outside of time and space
    and then things get a little bit more,
    yeah, there are things you could talk about
    that sort of maybe are a little bit different
    but how is that necessarily different, even?
    I mean, if you imagine,
    you're a super advanced technology
    or a species that just happens,
    yeah, you're not even that advanced,
    you just happen to exist outside of
    what we think of as space time
    and you exist in a different way

    What does that really mean?

    So I'm not questioning the distance
    or the existence of such a thing

    I'm not denying it, I'm not saying it exists

    I'm just saying, I don't know that that's any different

    than saying there's an alien technology and alien species
    that's just vastly more powerful than us, maybe

    And, you know, what does it really mean?

    So I think part of the thing that people need
    for that agnosticism is the structure
    where you have a specific kind of God
    or religious system in mind

    Because, I mean, if you take it seriously,

    like you don't know the nature,
    and part of not knowing the nature would be
    you don't know even what that is

    And so it doesn't, it almost means

    you wouldn't have that system,
    but what people really mean,
    I think when they say agnostic is they don't know
    about the specific, you know,
    basically the God that they were raised with,
    whatever that happens to be,
    with some small variations, you know,
    they have an idea of what that is,
    and they just don't know

    And this gets to, again,

    I started talking about a bit of Pascal's wager

    This is a thing that I noticed, I do,

    sometimes I go off on tangents
    and I don't complete the thought

    Even when I have notes, I have notes now

    I almost always let that thread hang

    But the Pascal's wager thing, if you have,

    the idea, I guess if you don't know it,
    is basically if you, whether you believe or not,
    if you believe, then, you know,
    maybe you get eternal reward

    And if you don't believe,

    then you get eternal punishment

    And so the wager is basically saying,

    well, okay, well, if that's the case,
    then you might as well just believe just in case

    And I guess that's very compelling,

    if, if you think that there's only one possibility

    The problem is it really falls apart badly

    when you start realizing, well,
    there are just on this planet,
    thousands and thousands in human history
    of different religious systems and different deities
    who are in many ways mutually exclusive

    So if you're gonna be doing Pascal's wager,

    you can't even, if you wanted to,
    believe in them all, just in case

    So now you have to start picking and choosing

    And now you're gonna really pick pickle

    because if you believe in, you know,
    the Christian God, and it turns out that
    it's actually the invisible, all-powerful bunny
    who doesn't like people who believe in that other one,
    now you fucked yourself, you know,
    your Pascal's wager, and then you can think
    they're endlessly many, not only incompatible,
    but like different things that if you believed
    in all the other ones, they would even just in case

    They would, yeah

    And then also there's that just in case thing,

    because there's like, if you imagine some kind of omniscient,
    this is something that actually gets to me about,
    and especially in Israel,
    there's this thing where they have a lot of technologies
    that basically, because I'm unsure about,
    you're not supposed to, you're not supposed to do certain stuff,
    right?
    You're not supposed to like flick switches and watch,
    turn on TV or turn on machines or any,
    you're not supposed to do certain kinds of work, basically

    I'm being very high level there, but you know,

    you're not really supposed to do stuff

    But there's a lot of like lawyer and God kind of stuff,

    so it's like, well, you're not supposed to do this,
    but what we'll do is we'll make a machine
    that randomly flushes the toilet,
    so you're not flushing the toilet,
    but you're getting the benefit of flushing the toilet

    And a certain point to me, it's like,

    I don't know, if you really think that there is a God
    and they have these rules for you, for whatever reason,
    and you're sitting there trying to game the system,
    I don't think you're gonna fool that being

    I don't really don't

    If you think that there's a God

    and you're just believing just in case,
    it's another problem with the pastels, what do you do you think?
    They probably know, and is that really believing
    if you're doing it just in case shit?
    And it also gets to another thing that gets to me,
    which is like, in grad school, there was a guy,
    he's, I think he's now an atheist actually, which is wild,
    but he was a young earth creationist

    He was getting his PhD, I think in chemistry at the time,

    and he, so young earth, so he understands chemistry,
    understands a lot of stuff that would tell you
    the earth is ancient, and when I say ancient,
    I mean, like a couple thousand years old,
    but because if his religious upbringing
    believed the earth was like 10,000 years old,
    or whatever, whatever they believe

    And yeah, believe also that people who don't believe

    are going to suffer eternal damnation

    This is one thing that, when I started realizing this,

    started really getting to me,
    because if you really genuinely believe that
    and you're walking around with that and you see people,
    how fucked up is it?
    Like, truly, and I'm not saying I want you
    to really proselytize to me or try to save me or anything,
    like this, I don't

    But if I thought that you were going to burn and pain

    and fire and torment and all this kind of stuff forever,
    I think I would probably try to at least tell you,
    like I try to go like, you know,
    maybe you should think about this, but they never do

    They never pretty much never do the only ones

    that occasionally would do that
    is like you get the proselytizers that come out to your door,
    or you get these people who are like hanging out
    just on campus or whatever

    And the watch tower drove as witness people

    And they're not even, I don't think that they're really,

    I don't know what their religious system is
    to be honest, I don't know anything about them specifically,
    other than the fact that they're out there
    and they proselytize

    And they don't seem to mind the fact

    that they bought a two-letter domain,
    which two-letter.com domain, you fucking expensive

    I brought this up, I've talked to them a couple of times

    I brought this up to them and it didn't really register,

    but somebody spent a lot of money, a lot of money on that

    And I don't know how much they spent actually,

    but I'm sure it was not cheap

    A four-letter domain is expensive,

    three-letter domain is expensive,
    a two-letter domain is fucking expensive, it has to be

    And they bought that

    And you just think like,

    how much fucking money did you waste on that?
    Maybe it's two-letters.org, I don't even know

    Whatever it is, it doesn't matter

    And don't follow it and don't go to their, the cult, but yeah

    It's just, I look at that and the whole idea

    It also also actually, as long as I'm talking about this,

    there are always in pairs and just like the Mormons,
    the LDS people who are going out and proselytizing to you, too,
    who, you know, like, I lived in Gilbert, Arizona

    And in the neighborhood that I was in,

    there would be kids doing their missions

    And they come out and they're on bikes,

    and they're always together, always in pairs, it's very important

    They say that it's for safety, I'm sure,

    or some other bullshit, but what it really is for is a bonding experience

    Because you're going out into the world

    and you're facing a lot of people who are not in your cult

    And for them, you know, some of them are going to be assholes

    Some of them are going to be hostile

    And even the ones that are nice, they're not probably going to entertain you

    and you're not in sense too much

    So that sort of stuff you are getting hardened by that,

    you're getting isolated

    And even if not that, they're just sitting out there,

    like you drive around Gilbert now, they're like seven again

    There are two fuckers out there sitting at a bench,

    either talking to each other, or sometimes they would not be talking to each other

    They look, some of them even look kind of like they're a couple,

    and they're just nothing to say to each other, which is weird to me

    But whatever it is, it's like, it's a bonding experience

    This is why they do it

    This is why cults send people out to recruit people

    Because a recruiting people is the thing that's at a cult grows,

    but also part of that is indoctrinating you further

    It's partly hardening you

    It's partly showing you, like, oh, see how hostile the world is,

    see how uninviting, see how rude people may be,
    or any of this kind of stuff

    And then people kind of have that experience,

    and then suddenly a little bit more inclined to stay in the fold

    You're more inclined not to go out and venture and escape,

    and all this kind of stuff

    Incidentally, also not to keep harping on this stuff,

    but I knew, I don't want to say anything specific that's going to identify people,
    but I have known in my life people who were in these cults,
    who I'm pretty sure, you don't know, but I'm pretty pretty pretty sure we're gay

    And you think about it also,

    if I was gay, my parents would have been fine

    Like it would not have been a big deal

    It would not have been like the end of the world, certainly

    I wouldn't have gotten excommunicated from my community and all this kind of stuff

    But some of these religions, if you are, either you do the conversion therapy,

    which is fucking ridiculous, or, and horrible torture,
    or, you know, like, the people that leave,
    whether it's that they're gay or just like, I've known people also who've left,
    and the people who've left, especially,
    and I'm thinking on the Mormons a lot, because I know several people who either,
    they weren't Mormon, and they lived in a Mormon community,
    and they were just shunned, and it was shitty, or they were Mormon,
    and they were gay, and fucked up their shit, or they were Mormon,
    and they didn't want their kids to have to be polygamous, so they had to move,
    or they were Mormon, and they decided that they weren't religious,
    and then they lost their entire fucking social network

    Like, not just the community members around, but like, they're fucking family,

    other than, like, one or two people abandoned them, and, and that

    I have some animosity toward people that are shitty like this

    And also, like, there's a certain, I don't mean, again, I don't mean to pick on a specific religion

    I'm not a fan of most of the major religions

    I'm not a fan even of the ones that are, I would say,

    warp in high, but especially like the, especially the Christian Catholic,
    all those kinds of derivatives, somehow, particularly not my thing

    And, because there are a lot of, it's that thing, you know, I like your Christ,

    but not your Christians, they're, that guy, they talk about, that they have the stories about,
    seems a clinical guy, seems like a pretty, you know, he's like,
    appreciates sex workers, is cool with people, likes immigrants, feeds people,
    very charitable, you know, turn the other cheekets, all of these things,
    they're, they're all fairly, I would say, noble attributes,
    but you actually look at the people in these religions, and they're fucking horrible people,
    and a lot of them also, I'm just thinking about Republican Congress people here,
    but you know, like, they're, they're supposed to be loving and caring and all this shit,
    and I swear, like, I don't think these people, I'm convinced a lot of the very religiousy
    people that you see, especially in government, if they really believed, I don't think they would act
    in the ways that they do, I don't think they would do the things that they say,
    and I really think a lot of them are more non-religious than I am, they just pretend,
    which is weird and gross, like it's worse than, I would rather they actually be genuinely like
    true believey kind of people, or really I would rather than that, you know, but never mind that

    Getting back to, uh, getting off that tangent and trying to get back to what I'm talking about here,

    the agnostic thing came up, because I was on, I'm on the loose guy, not a huge fan of the
    people that run the place, they are techno-libertarian, uh, giant air quotes on this, free speech,
    absolutist, and I always remember, I've talked about this a few times, sorry if I'm repeating
    myself, but I always remember when I was a kid, and I remember ACLU was defending Nazis,
    and I think it was my dad that I was talking to, I don't even remember who I talked to about it,
    but I talked to somebody about it, and I said, what, why, why, why are they defending them?
    And then I'd hear the story, which is what the free speech absolutely does always say,
    which is like, well, they have the whole marketplace of ideas nonsense, and, and then they have
    this thing where it's like, well, you know, Scott, it's very important, it's most important
    that we protect the right for people to have terrible ideas and speak about those,
    because if we allow their speech to be abridged, then in time that will just open the door
    to a bridging ours

    And the thing that's funny about this is this is the argument, this is actually

    a good argument, if you're talking about, you should not allow the government to strip people
    of civil rights

    You should not allow, I don't even think you should allow the government

    to detain people indefinitely

    I think that's actually probably pretty fucked up

    They certainly

    should not be allowed to deprive people of life, like premeditated murder by the state, is wild,
    the fact that anyone's okay with that is just absolutely ridiculous beyond ridiculous

    But also let the ability to take away people's right to vote, if you give the state the

    power to take away the right to vote

    Think about what that means

    Think about what that means

    That means there's something you could do, you don't even have to do it, just somebody can decide

    you did something

    And now you cannot vote, you lose your representation in the state

    And I always talk to people about this, and it's one of those things that people,

    I don't know if they just not thought about it or if they really are true believers in this idea,
    but I think it's one of these things

    I think that what it is, I think maybe I'm just being

    overly charitable here, but I think what it is is they never really thought about it,
    and then you talk to them about it

    And instead of really interrogating it, they kind of just

    default the trying to defend this position that they have, that it's okay to do

    But you should never, never, ever, ever, ever give the state that ability

    And you think about it also, it's like, well, I talked to people about that and they're always like,

    well, what about somebody who, and they come up with some horrible crimes that somebody might have
    committed, and also like, this gets actually to, I'm not, again, agnostic, but in my epistemology,
    my way of understanding what is and how things are and how you know stuff

    Basically, you don't

    know anything with absolute certainty

    You don't know anything definitively one way or another

    Everything is kind of an approximation

    And you could be really, very, very confident about something,

    but there's still like a sliver of doubt, no matter what

    And you could be very uncertain about things

    In fact, the default position is you just don't know

    This is a thing, I wish more people were

    just okay with, I don't know, as an answer

    And like, I don't know is the greatest thing that you

    could say, and the second greatest thing is I was wrong, I think

    Those are, if more people would

    be able to say those things, and we're comfortable with them

    It would help so much

    This is a weird thing

    I was at a coffee shop this morning, and there were two women talking,

    this is not related to that, but this is also a thing that I think, they were talking about
    one other kids was having issues with constipation

    And it was like, I guess, really,

    I'm not, there's no way, like, I don't even know who these people are, so I'm not
    developing private information about somebody that anyone would know

    Just some kid has constipation,

    very embarrassed about it

    And the fact that we are like, we're trained to be ashamed of just

    basic bodily functions and issues

    Like, it's, it's fucking weird, it's fucking weird, because we all

    have bowels, right? I mean, unless you're very unlucky, we all have physiological needs, we all have,
    you know, like, processing of food and things like this, and we don't talk about that shit

    You know, and it never mind talking about, like, reproduction and reproductive health and

    sex ed, and all that kind of stuff

    And if you wouldn't even get into that, this gets to,

    coming a little bit back full circle, the grad student that I was super
    infatuated with, you know, our culture doesn't teach you at all, like, how to deal with,
    and I'm not even going to say rejection, but just like relationships in a really good way

    And it's not just, we don't, like, sex, you just have this idea that, oh, you just know how to do it

    basically

    And you don't talk about it very much, and it's kind of very ashamed

    There's a lot of shame

    around it

    There's a lot of weirdness around it

    And you think about, like, relationships, too,

    like asking for consent is such a weird thing in our society

    Like, I mean, I'm not saying,

    you shouldn't do it

    I'm just saying that the way that our society is,

    asking if, you know, we can kiss or can I touch you or something like that? Can I hold your hand?
    It's weird

    And I don't mean that it's actually weird

    It should not be weird

    But we're trained

    to have some weirdness around it

    We don't have that protocol

    We don't have the social

    construct around it

    And it's just, like, the way that you have that, the way that you have this idea,

    like, there's so much stuff

    If you look at movies and, you know, it's interesting

    Actually,

    like, I think Romeo and Juliet was making fun of this more than anything, because I was just listening
    to somebody talking about this

    And in the thing, I'm terrible with names

    But in the beginning,

    Romeo is with, I guess, Juliet's cousin or something

    And she's not into him or something

    Something is happening

    It's not going very well

    And then he jumps

    He's like super-infatuated

    And she's the son all this stuff

    And then all of a sudden, he's into this Juliet, who is also,

    I think, like, 13, which is, you know, fucking, I might be off on the age, but, yeah,
    definitely too young

    They're definitely way the fuck too young

    They've known each other for

    no time at all

    I think Shakespeare's making fun of it

    I think he's, like, pointing out how fucked

    up it is

    But if we have this idea, this hyper-romantic idea that, A, you don't know if somebody

    and you should be super, you know, like, love it for sight or whatever, like this

    And then also,

    you know, there's this idea of, um, the airport's friend's own stuff

    And it, which is kind of ridiculous

    Because the, the relationships that I've actually had, especially the good ones, they started out,

    like, it wasn't, you have this social idea that you're supposed to ask somebody on a date

    And then it's, it's all weird

    And it's kind of like, there's a lot of pressure to it

    And then you have this stuff where everybody's kind of pretending to be somebody else

    And you're

    making a, a different version of yourself

    And then you, you get to know each other there

    And then you

    get more relaxed

    And then now you become, like, now you have to know that actual person

    The relationships that I've had that have actually been good and the, the way that I've preferred

    to, to get into a relationship with somebody is not, like, it's not even the friend's own
    thing

    It's like, you meet somebody

    And you get to know them

    And, you know, like, things just

    kind of progress

    Or they don't

    And we don't talk about this stuff

    We don't really have

    great models of it

    We have a lot of models, especially in pop culture of terrible versions of this

    You have a lot of models of, like, oh, somebody gets drunk and then they get taken advantage of

    And, you know, I mean, to, I say take an advantage of, I mean, that's, that's code for raped

    Basically, or, or, you know, I'm not saying that every time you have sex under the influence of

    drugs is rape

    But there's a lot of, like, really transgressive stuff in our pop culture

    And people

    just don't fucking, like, they take that to be normal

    They take, I mean, it's one of the reasons

    I think that they're stalking

    And it is also, like, you get to the whole bullshit, uh, I, again,

    with the air quotes that you can't see

    I need, I need a, a way to, like, end the thing I've, like,

    robbing air quotes

    Um, you know, because I'm like, I don't want to actually say something

    and have it sound like I'm actually saying it, uh, without the giant air quotes around it

    But, uh, and I got so, and I got so hung up on that, I forgot what the fuck I was going to

    talk about

    The, the whole idea of, like, not taking no for an answer, love it for sight, um,

    you know, that dealing with for you actually, that was it

    That was it

    That was it

    The mail

    along the, uh, Linus epidemic, air quotes, air quotes, air quotes

    Um, that whole bullshit thing

    I mean, I think about it

    Also, like, I, I was, uh, according to museum culture, I was kind of a

    late bloomer

    I never, like, I, I, I never, and there, there was somebody, my sister's friend

    had a sleepover, and we kissed, uh, like, 14 or something

    That was very consensual,

    and very sort of driven by her

    I didn't have been younger than that

    I don't remember

    But

    we're both, she might have been a year younger than me or something, but that was, that was a thing

    And then didn't go anywhere

    And I wasn't really, other than that, like the next time I,

    and I was not a very social person, like, in high school, really didn't have any friends

    I've been in talk to people, and you had, but that's not really any friends

    And then undergrad,

    for the first couple of years, I had, there were a couple of TAs

    There was one TA that I really

    liked

    There was, uh, there were a couple of TAs that I kind of got to know a little bit,

    but in terms of, I was never really very comfortable with people my age

    And I don't mean that

    in the relationship, like romantic relationship way

    I just mean, especially with the little kids

    I didn't, I never really felt that comfortable with them

    I never really felt like when I was a little

    kid, I always got along much better with adults

    I didn't, um, I didn't feel like one of the kids,

    so to speak

    And, you know, as I got older, I sort of grew, well, I don't know if I grew into it,

    or I just like, the people around me got to be the age group that I was, you know, feeling comfortable
    with

    And then sort of like the end of undergrad, I start connecting with people a little bit,

    getting to graduate school, and connect a little bit more, and then after I finished my masters,
    gotten to my PhD, and, you know, start connecting with people more, and also, and I don't know how
    you can engineer this

    I don't think it's a thing you can control, but I'm at somebody who every

    introvert should meet, uh, you kind of need one of these people, uh, socially extroverted and
    sort of person connector, uh, who has a lot of friends and does a lot of stuff and plans a lot
    of stuff, and you get, you get somebody like this in your life, and you suddenly, I've had a
    handful of them, and it's just like night and day

    It went, in fact, like from my,

    there was one point in time where I never, just never really was that social, and I kind of,
    I felt bad that I wasn't getting included in stuff, and then it almost overnight,
    I mean, it wasn't overnight, it was, you know, months, but at, at some point, it kind of flipped,
    and it was like every fucking weekend, I had shit to do, and in the weekdays, I had shit to do,
    not every day necessarily, but, like, too much, and then it started being like, I was invited to
    stuff, and at first, I was getting invited to stuff, and I was like, I have to go to fucking everything,
    and it was partly because I didn't want to not get invited, and partly because it was just,
    like, for so long, I never gotten invited to shit

    It wasn't like people excluded me, it was just

    to, like, nobody knew me enough to do it, but, you know, and I kind of felt like I wanted it,
    and then it got to the point where I was like, okay, this is not, I need time to myself,
    and now it's like to the point where almost to an unhealthy extent, I get invited to stuff,
    and I just don't want to, you know, but basically never want to do it, and this is not that I don't
    do stuff, and usually if I go out and do stuff, I actually enjoy it, but pretty much, like,
    even if I'm going to enjoy it, somebody invites me to something anymore, and I'm just, you know,
    there are some rare exceptions for the most part, hey, I get that, and I'm like, oh, it seems,
    it's not a thing I want to do

    It's a weird lip, and, you know, because there was a time where, like,

    anyone could have invited me to anything, and I would have absolutely done it, and, you know,
    I don't mean in the sense of being susceptible to social pressure and that kind of stuff,
    but, you know, like, to get to go someplace with people, I would have been, I would have been way down

    Anyway, rambling around here, the thing getting back to this agnosticism, I'm on blue sky,

    the people who run blue sky, I started talking about those, but they're left, they're not left,
    they are techno libertarians, and, again, with the giant air quotes, free giant air quotes,
    speech, giant airports, uh, absolutists, and I got the ACLU thing, defending Nazis, and all this kind
    of stuff, I am increasingly convinced that when people say they're free speech absolutists,
    what they really mean is that they want mid-white dudes to be able to say the inward and the
    f-word, I don't mean to fuck there, and, you know, just to be very unrestricted, it's kind of weird,
    because it's like, you're, you're a white dude, you could do anything you could talk about anything,
    you have a lot of stuff, you have a lot of privileges, and any kind of little limitation
    is unacceptable

    It's like, you know, you, you, how dare you not allow me to say,

    like, I mean, people literally basically talk about stuff like that, it's the most fucking ridiculous
    ass and I should, but these techno libertarians are like that too, and they're also not to get too
    much into the blue sky bullshit, but the second, like they did not want to implement
    blocking

    Blocking was part of the design of at protocol, which is the thing that they claimed that

    they were trying to build, and then you bunch of bullshit, but anyway, they did that,
    didn't want to implement blocking for the longest time, and then they finally implemented it
    because some asshole, I don't, I don't even want to say his name because he's a massive
    troll piece of shit

    He's, he's a journalist who is known, journalists is not the right

    word, he's like a writing entertainer or something, great shitty articles, and his main thing is,
    his whole shit is easy, but I think all themselves heterodox bullshit thing, you know,
    I'm a contrarian, and the contrarian part is like you're just an asshole troll,
    and basically his whole, his whole thing, and they're, they're a bunch of people like this
    is saying shit that is either transgressive or inappropriate or you're just fucking wrong,
    and then stirring up a shit storm, and then the shit storm gets him a lot of attention,
    and you know, it's how trolls work, and it just increases his profile, and then he's got more
    people, and then he gets to do it more, and he's just, I'm sure he gets paid really well for it,
    he probably comes from, I don't know his history, but anyway, the point is he got on here,
    and people started shooting on him correctly, but he got upset about it, and then he finally
    finally, people who were making the site into implementing blocking, so he could block people,
    that's why they implemented blocking

    They also, as part of that, I don't want to make this

    up loose cracking, but as part of that, they did it in a way that was kind of, they didn't want
    to do the blocking, so they made it in a way that just broke stuff, like it would block stuff,
    and it just disconnected threads, like if somebody, and if somebody blocked somebody in the thread,
    it just nuked everything, every interaction thereafter, and people, it actually, they called
    it the nuclear block, they didn't, not the blue sky, people, but the people using it,
    and it was, it was a nice, accidental feature, it made it, like if somebody was shitty,
    the trolling, all it took was you block them, and they no longer have your mentions
    the game traction, and it's magical, because people would just, there's a lot, people came on there,
    tried their anti-social bullshit, which works in other social media platforms, because most
    of them are designed so that, as my ex-wife used to say, negative attention is still attention,
    and so they would give people a reward for being shitty, because you're shitty, you say shitty
    stuff, and then you'd have a lot of interactions, and more and more people would see you,
    and people would start following them, and because they had a lot of followers, there's a
    thing, it's, it's, I guess it's this bandwagon thing that people do, but it's, it's still
    fucking annoying, people will follow people just because they have a lot of followers, you see,
    somebody's got like a million followers, well shit, I'm gonna be one of the million, I don't know why,
    it doesn't make sense to me, I see that and I'm like, yeah, I'm good, but just not to say,
    I don't follow people with a lot of followers, but you know, it doesn't, if anything it
    discourages me, but for some reason, for a lot of people that is attractive, it's an interesting
    thing, but, you know, they, they do that, and then they get interactions they get seen, and that
    means that some of them, because they're getting a lot of interactions, people will follow them,
    because they're being shitty, sometimes there will be people who are attracted to the, to the
    shittyness, and they'll follow them, and it just keeps building on itself, because they, the more people
    they've got following them, the more interactions they get, and then, you know, it's this exponential
    growth thing, and it's just, it's one of the things I really hate about the way these things are
    structured, that it just absolutely rewards the worst people, the people who, because it's negative stuff,
    not that there's negative embossed emotions and all that's going to stop, but, you know,
    the stuff where it's people being shitty and trolling and all this stuff, I guess you could call it
    negative, if you like, I'm, I'm not sure that's the right word, but whatever it is, anti social
    counter, you know, bullshit, that kind of stuff, it lights up people's amygdala's and gets
    much more traction than the, the good stuff, and it's annoying, because these people, I mean,
    it's like the, the right wing media stuff being more popular than the more boring stuff,
    it just builds and builds and builds on itself, and it's annoying, and I hate it, and it, you know,
    it's a terrible thing, that nuclear block, more time, prevented that, because trolling is no fun,
    being an asshole is no fun, if you do it, and then you get no pushback, you do it, you don't get anything
    out of it, and so people would do it, they disappeared, I mean, they, their interactions would just go
    away, and then they'd get no traction, and they'd have like a small number of followers there,
    and they had a lot of followers on Twitter, and so they just go back to Twitter

    Anyway, the, the thing that I'm getting to, with all of this, I'm on blue sky today,

    somebody came up with something about agnosticism, and it was, I wish I could remember the context,
    actually, now because I, it's the whole point of this episode is based on this little interaction
    that we had, and we went back and forth a few times, and they were explaining how silly they
    think agnosticism is, and I'm sitting there saying, like, I personally am not agnostic,
    and it is not something that would be within, within me, really, but I can understand that if you
    have a certain epistemology, like a certain way of knowing things, and you have a certain
    sort of framework for how the universe works, which basically puts you into this idea of a specific
    kind of God and religious system or non

    Then agnosticism is probably probably almost the

    correct answer subject to those assumptions, and we went back and forth, or I don't want to
    get into the logic of that, although I do think like philosophy of science is a, it's a course
    that I've taken, I think it's worth in, you know, studying empiricism, studying epistemologies,
    not just that one, but you know, like other ones too, to learn about other ways of thinking
    about stuff

    I think it's kind of important, I think, I really think like, I've never had a class

    that, and I don't want to get into the like the Steve Jobs sat in on, on type setting, and that's
    why you have post script and all those bullshit, but I do think every class that I've ever taken,
    whether it's Native American religious traditions or dating myself again at the time it was
    called the Women's Studies, now it's called Gender Studies, that kind of stuff, it's all been
    very beneficial to me going forward

    I can't think of a class optics

    Actually, undergrad optics,

    there was the only class, not even that was probably useful, but the professor for that class
    who, I guess you could probably look up, I think he's retired and we're just now, it doesn't matter

    It's probably pretty hard to figure out when I was there and who was teaching all that kind of stuff

    So

    it doesn't, I don't think I'm embarrassing somebody or talking shit about somebody specifically, but
    worst professor I've ever had, truly, in terms of teaching, because the way that he taught,
    especially, my memory is not as good now as it used to be, but it used to be if I was paying attention
    in class and I could understand how stuff worked, I just owned it

    And it's still true, if I understand

    something now, I just understand it

    Like I just, yeah, it's, I'm not saying it's easy, but it just

    like just sticks

    It's why I can, I could not use calculus for a couple of years and then figure it

    Like it might take a little bit of time to brush up, but it would come back to me pretty quickly,

    because I understand it

    Even like, reman versus lip egg integration and all that kind of stuff,

    I probably couldn't write some proof, so it would take some time, I'd probably have to do some work
    to figure it out, but I could get there

    But I'm not doing like a complex analysis proof right

    now that it's not going to happen

    But the stuff that I really understand, it kind of understands it

    And so if you understand it, you kind of own it

    I think that is, I know people think differently

    and they learn differently and all that's going to stuff

    But for me, especially with physics,

    like in all of the exams, there would always be this thing, the ones that I taught and the ones
    that I took, they'd always let you take a cheat sheet and a cheat sheet and air quotes,
    which was like a bunch of page or, yeah, one page both sided and formulaes or whatever bullshit

    And there are always people that would have like microprint, full both sides,

    dense text, like how to fuck did you write that kind of stuff? And in reality, you know,
    most of the stuff that you needed to know either, one of the better professors I had,
    the guy that I took a differential apology with and general relativity and advanced algebra,
    which was a very cool class

    I've talked about him before, but he, he's actually one of the

    few people that I'm like my professors that I'm actually still connected to on Facebook

    But he

    always said this thing, which was like, yeah, you, to do the proofs, what you want to do is learn
    how to garden and take a pack of seeds with you and the seeds are like the little things that you
    start with and then you learn how to, you kind of know where you're going and you take those seeds
    and then you can kind of work from them

    And he was right, it really, especially for the proofs,

    like that that we would do, it really worked

    I'm sure, like if you're trying to do like

    format's last theorem, it might be a little bit challenging, but for the proofs that we were doing
    in that class, it worked

    Yeah, that was a good class, rings and fields and groups and all that kind

    of stuff

    I miss, it was talking to a friend about this a couple of days ago or so,

    I miss undergrad

    And I mean, obviously, like part of it is just a year at a certain time,

    it's like a moment in your life where things are a certain way

    And I'm not saying like,

    it was not socially for me

    It was not a great time

    There were a lot of things that were not

    great about that

    But one thing that was awesome about undergrad for me, especially one semester

    I was working and working while you're going to school sucks

    But most of it, I was getting

    student loans living at home and so I didn't really have that many expenses

    I had a little bit of

    not disposable income, but I could go to movies or eat or stuff like that

    And I could just

    go to classes

    And some of the classes were not great

    Some of the classes were things that I

    wasn't that excited about

    But most of the classes were pretty interesting

    And most of the classes

    also, I almost forgot, well, I do kind of regret

    I would have liked to have taken more

    literature classes or history or a few languages, but it would have been nice to take more
    languages

    It would have been like undergrad if money was not an object

    And I was going to live

    indefinitely

    I always used to say that I would, and I would still would do this, like collect

    alphabet soup after my name

    I just get a bunch of doctorates and get a JD and get an MD

    I would do that for sure

    I don't think I would ever get an EDD

    It's kind of a weird thing

    That's interesting

    I don't know that I would get an MBA

    I might do it just like, if I was

    really going to live like hundreds of years and just be like essentially, you know, as healthy
    as you are biologically, you're like you're 30 and money's no problem and you can just do whatever

    Okay, I probably get an MBA just to just do it

    I PhD in psychology

    I would definitely do that

    and practice for a little while

    I probably practice surgery for a little while

    But then you think about the MBA, the business degree, you can't see the whinsing on my face,

    but it's not a pleasant look

    It's not like, it's more like it you

    Maybe I would do it just

    out of curiosity, but I don't know that I can tolerate it

    I probably get sick of it

    Probably not

    be a thing

    But anyway, getting rambling around here, rambling is what I do

    I guess if you're

    listening to this, you hopefully like the rambling because if you don't, you know, listen to
    either the wrong thing

    It's kind of the thing that you need to, I don't have an, or I don't have

    like a massive audience, but if you're cultivating an audience, you probably want to not perform
    too much that's too difficult or too far outside of who you are because if I was doing like a song
    in dance or if I was doing like jokes, imagine, imagine that you'd make a podcast and your whole
    thing is just jokes, just like material that you're working out

    And on one hand, you can get pretty

    efficient at, you know, taking stuff and understanding how to grab a garden and picking up the seeds
    and growing the jokes and all that kind of stuff

    You could do that too, but it's going to be hard

    Unless you're just naturally like, that's the thing you do

    And I do, the weird thing is actually,

    I do, I do joke around a lot, but it doesn't really come out in this setting

    It's more

    situational and in terms of relationships with people and you're like, I'm in a situation
    things happen and then I comment on them and it's kind of fine

    And or I do something weird,

    or whatever it is, or somebody else does something weird and I error mark on it

    That kind of

    down, if you're doing it and you're the people who start listening or the people who want that,
    and now you've got to deliver it and you just think about like, how miserable that must be
    if it's not your thing

    I can imagine like, I, today, I wrote an outline and I think the outline

    is actually not too bad as a thing for me to do

    Like, it gives me at least some kind of structure

    to hang on and some things that I'm like, okay, I want to say this and this and this and almost always
    when I listen to one of these, there are things that I just skip over or I'll like introduce something
    and then get side tracked and never come back and say the thing that I wanted to finish with
    or I wanted to finish up and it's kind of annoying to me

    And that even happens with the notes,

    but if I don't do notes, then that definitely is fucked

    But you think about like you could be doing

    this as something where you have a script, but you've written stuff down and you're just reading it

    And I guess for a certain kind of person, Simon Wissler, that works for

    It seems to be like a

    thing that he really enjoys and part of it is also, it's not just that he's reading the script,
    but he also, as he's reading the script, comments on it and it's kind of stuff

    It's interesting,

    it's entertaining

    For at least somewhat, I listened to one of his things with my mom and sister,

    they were not impressed

    And it also like, it's interesting, I guess it's a human thing,

    but when you're in an audience and stuff falls flat, even if you would normally like it,
    it makes you like it less

    And so I did not enjoy the one that I was listening to with them

    And it's kind of had a lasting effect

    I think also like I've heard maybe too many of his things,

    but never mind that now

    But you know, if you're doing something where you're putting in a lot of

    work, I understand why people get burnt out

    Because especially like I don't edit this this

    that or that much, and it's so much work just to edit it a little bit

    And especially like when I

    was trying to do videos, I think there's something nice, I do think like the, there's something
    nice about the video

    I like TikTok for the videos, but the problem is also at the same time,

    it's just like, I do, yeah, I don't know, do you really, do you really want to put in that much
    time and effort? Like if I had somebody to do the editing and all that kind of stuff and I could just
    record the video, I guess I'd probably do it, but even even like a minimal amount of editing on a video
    is so much time

    It's so much effort

    And if you really want to do like you make it, like I've

    done somewhere, I've put in a lot of time, did a lot of, did a lot of cuts, and you put in some
    figures, and you put, and you start doing that, and it gets like so much more time than the actual
    duration of recording it and putting it out there

    And you just think about like, yeah, I don't,

    I would not, if I had to do that every time, even if I had nothing else I wanted to do, like,
    nothing on my plate

    I don't think I would, I don't think I'd want to, and, yeah, I don't think it would

    be sustainable

    What I'm doing here, I somehow can sustain it, as long as I have time and opportunity

    to record these, it's something I keep doing

    I don't know why that is, it's been, and it's been

    something I've been doing for decades

    You know, again, I was my, my ex, who was the sister of my friend's

    wife who I just talked to today

    She and I, well, her kid is 14

    So we broke up 15 years ago,

    which is fucking wild

    And you just think like, when we get the knowledge other, she was listening

    to my podcast

    So, and that was not like, I just started it

    It was one that I was doing for years

    Before that, I just think about like, I've been doing this for a long, fucking time, and it's kind

    of ridiculous

    And the thing is also, like, I have zero interest in, I don't have a real interest

    in building an audience per se

    I don't have a real interest in monetizing this

    Just the idea of

    monetizing the hobbies is so gross

    It's such a weird fucked up thing about our society

    And the

    thing I also did sucks about it is, like, if I find out, like, I keep myself doing this deliberately,
    but I have a thing because you raised in this just gross society that when somebody starts talking
    about something that they do, you try to turn it into a fucking business for them

    And you're like,

    oh, you could, you could actually, maybe you could make some money

    And I'm not saying I do that,

    but there's a part of you

    And it's like, oh, you do those

    You could, you know, no, like art should not be,

    it's not to say that you can't do stuff for money and for commerce and all that kind of stuff
    to come in here

    Going back to Star Trek, you have Cisco's and the this restaurant from the father

    of Captain Cisco

    And I don't think they exchange money

    I don't, maybe they do, maybe they don't,

    I don't think they have to

    But he loves to cook

    He just likes to cook

    He likes having a restaurant,

    he likes the social aspect of it, likes the prop and all that kind of stuff

    And it's essentially

    post scarcity future

    So you could just do that

    And it does get to this thing, like, you see

    so many people who think you have to have a gun near your head to do stuff

    I know, it's like,

    nobody pays me to do this

    Nothing comes of this

    Nothing, there's no, you know, but I just do this

    This is a thing that I do because I like it

    And I think that's good

    I think if you like making paintings,

    you shouldn't have to make a painting that you're selling or even thinking about selling

    You just make fucking paintings

    You do sketches

    You write poetry

    You do equations on a blackboard

    I used to, I used to love when I was, when I was in high school and undergrad, I used to like

    get pieces of paper

    And I would just, especially, and I was, this came up recently,

    this gravitation book by, I'm, I'm Myesner Wheeler and Thorne took a second

    I was like,

    was that coming to me? But this, they call it the phone book or the telephone book

    Same,

    same professor that I was talking about before, that it did differential topology with

    Was, he is the one that called it the phone book for me

    But it's this big black, mine was a

    soft cover

    I think the soft cover is better

    I miss, it's the one physical book that I got

    rid of when I moved to France that I miss

    I had, you know, I had a box full of books

    And there were some that I liked

    There were, I had like a cow field theory one

    I had,

    guy who else did I have

    I had, I had a few other books that were, that were pretty good

    But I, the gravitation one, I miss

    I got that in high school way before I ever took

    calculus or anything like that

    And that book, it's, maybe I'm just overly romanticizing it

    But I'm going through the book and it starts out just like with a description of stuff

    And it introduces tensor calculus

    It introduces like vector transport

    And it, I will say,

    like it didn't get into like tensor bundles and, uh, I didn't get into a lot of like modern
    stuff

    But, you know, it's, it got me to a certain point with a lot of this stuff that I could,

    I could certainly, um, you know, like writing down, uh, the field equations and solving like the
    circular symmetric

    Uh, I, I, I didn't, I don't know how I would do on it now

    But, you know, I did,

    at the time, like I would sit there and I just take a piece of paper and you write down the
    coordinates and then you like solve the fourths child equation or something like that

    And, yeah, that was fucking cool

    I enjoyed that

    Or just like figuring out and thinking about,

    uh, relativistic path lengths and doing, you know, what was you learned integration, um,
    and especially you learn metric spaces and stuff like this

    And now you can start integrating path

    lengths

    And you can, you realize that like, oh, well, in this metric where you have space,

    the space or one, one direction

    So plus plus plus minus signature minus minus minus plus,

    depending on how you want to do it

    Uh, minus minus minus plus gives you like three spatial ones

    are negative and the time is positive

    And then also, you can, you can put Cs in there, but

    there's this geometric coordinates thing where time is just, you know, I'm going to try to see
    as one

    You use a unit of length in the unit of time that are the same

    So the speed of like

    becomes just one

    You could do that for all, pretty much all of the units, or most of the major units

    But anyway, you do that

    You the integration, you figure this stuff out

    And, you know,

    I learned so much about, you know, like, just like the twin paradox and all this stuff,
    not not really a paradox

    But, you know, and it built a lot of intuition and it was fun

    And there's that, you know, that, but that was a hobby

    It wasn't like I didn't need to be paid for it

    I didn't need to be paid

    I mean, I guess I did pay to go to classes

    But I would, if I, if money

    was no object and I was essentially retired, I just take, take classes

    Just take some, you know,

    and it feels like obviously at a certain point you take, you go through the course catalog of
    a university, you'll take all of the classes that you're interested in, given enough years

    But it would take a long time

    Like, you know, you can take, because you just think about

    like the languages

    How many languages could you take? And the languages each take, you know,

    you're probably not taking five different languages at a time, or maybe you are, but I think
    you probably want to take like one language at a time and kind of work on it

    Take another language, work on that, get better at it

    But I'm put the front say,

    I'm a bit of a Spanish, uh, John Gwen, Choto Nyongo, you know, you play with those stuff a
    little bit

    And, yeah, you, um, that would be interesting

    I think that would be cool

    Learn,

    architecture, learn art, learn mixed media, learn, you know, like take a fucking drama class,
    take take several drama classes

    I mean, I wouldn't want to do that as a career

    It's a thing that's horrible about the, again, it gets to the society in the way that things are

    But, you know, like, people have this idea that education has to be vocational training

    And, I mean, obviously, like, you need somehow to pay your way through life and always kind of

    stuff in the structure that we have, shouldn't have to be that

    I do think, you know,

    I really think, like, if you made the world in a better way where people didn't actually have to work,
    um, people will find stuff that is productive and useful

    And that there will be people,

    yeah, again, you don't have to have a gun to somebody's head to go out into the fields and harvest crops

    If you made it not miserable, like, I mean, think about it

    Wouldn't you,

    yeah, it's like, you spend like an hour or two a week

    You can go out there and just like chill in the

    fields and at a reasonable pace, do some picking in a comfortable set setting

    Doesn't seem like that big of a deal

    Are you getting enough people to do that?

    And now you've got an essential thing to, I'm not saying you'd probably want to do that with,
    like, cleaning the sewers or something like that

    There are things where you'd probably

    have to compensate people or do, like, figure out some structure to get people to do it

    But you don't need to have this thing where, like, if you don't do it, you're fucked

    You don't have to have this thing where if you don't do your shitty job,

    you're not, you're going to not eat, you're going to be out on the street

    You're going to be just miserable if you, if something goes wrong and, you know, you need surgery

    or you crack a tooth or you'd have an impacted molar or you, you know, whatever that you're just
    fucked, that you don't need that

    And I think really, it's kind of fucking annoying,

    because you think about, like, how much, there's also this aspect of, like, how much stuff do you
    really need? Because you don't need, it can't capitalism

    We have so much variety

    You have 20 companies

    and a bunch of people who duplicate all the same shit

    They're not, like, making, it's something

    that really annoys me, actually, between, my perspective on it has changed over time

    Like,

    the iPhone and the Android copying each other

    Part of, part of what's annoying about it is

    because you have this capitalistic competitive system

    Everybody wants to, you know,

    the race to the bottom

    Everybody's trying to duplicate the same shit that everybody else is doing

    There's not a lot of room for creativity in that

    And then you end up with, like, look at cars

    and they're all the same

    You look at, you go to the serial aisle and they're all the same boxes

    of the same shit

    Basically, like, in terms of composition and, you know, ingredients,

    all of those fucking cereals, including the boxes, including the ink, are basically the same
    shit with the different shapes and slightly different chemicals to the flavor them and color them
    and the coloring on the packages is slightly different than yelling

    But they're all very,

    very similar

    And, you know, you start going through that and you get, you go through the

    usey and grocery store and we have so much shit and so much fake variety and also never mind
    the, you know, like, everything, everything is, is like, just had the life cost optimized out of it

    Like, you have stuff that is, everything is, is made now to be just, there's something

    I don't know what it is

    I feel like I hear like people talking like in the background

    but like super muffled and in the distance, but I stopped talking and I, I don't know what it is

    It sounds maybe like it's just an electric hum or something behind me

    Whatever it is, it's very

    distracting

    Maybe it is people outside, but whatever it is, it's like, if I could actually hear

    what they're saying, it would be not so distracting because you can get to filter it out

    But the way my brain works, if I sort of like half hear it, I start focusing on it and then I'm like,

    if there's a problem to solve my brain in eightly wants to do that, which also goes to that
    thing that you're like, you don't have to pay me to do that

    You don't have to pay people to make

    like 15 different phones that look exactly the fucking same

    You don't have to, it's annoying

    think is also like you think about like Apple cranking out these giant air quotes AI processors
    and then they go to this iOS 26 shit just using really complex filters and all this processing
    shit super super processing intensive stuff that they do because the chips are getting too fast
    and you know it's like you keep making the chips fast here and so you keep making the stuff
    need more power and then it's just the reason that this annoys me is another way to do it,
    a better way to do it would be let's make an operating system that does look good and we keep
    refining it, but it's efficient, you know like it looks good but it doesn't have to be
    requiring like a fucking you know care of lobster machine running at full bore to render the
    screen, you know you could do something that's like nice but not that ridiculous and if you did that
    well then the processor from 20 years ago might still be fine and then you think about that it's like
    well okay what could you do that because we you still keep pushing the envelope and you have the
    three nanometer process or one point whatever nanometer extreme ultraviolet process and when you're
    doing that one thing that you can do with it is make really fast pretty efficient processors
    but another thing you can do with that is take those same processors from 20 years ago
    and make them use so little power that like if if you imagine you have a phone UI from 20 years ago
    and you can you could refine it a little bit but you have a processor that is the processor from then
    updated to a modern process so you don't have like 15 20 billion transistors in there you might
    have hundreds of millions maybe you have a billion or two doesn't really matter but you have a
    smaller number or maybe you have all of those but a lot of them are dark most of the time
    not actively processing if you did that you could get the processing down for your UI to next
    you could get to the point like with current technology if the software was better you could have
    a phone that would be charged once a week and it would just work you could I mean yeah
    obviously the radio is probably probably difficult for that but can you could do something like that
    if you didn't really crank it it's annoying to me actually because you can if there are certain
    things which are nice to be able to have a lot of processing power for compiling stuff is kind of
    processor intensive especially because the the compiler just keep getting better and better
    it's stuff and that's more intensive and you know like but you know for the most part for for
    day-to-day stuff you could have it really like I mean I'm just looking at my Mac right now
    if this was like a Linux machine from 15 years ago and it worked pretty well but you made
    something that just would last and instead of like doing planned ups and blessings you just make
    better and better versions of things and with the goal that it's gonna last a long fucking time
    be you know you focus on power battery life and yeah I mean you make it look again you make it look good
    you make it work well you keep refining it not optimizing it but you don't need to you don't need to
    build shit just to waste cycles you don't need to build the iOS 26 what do they call it liquid glass
    interface or some clone of that you don't need to build all the bullshit fake audible airports
    AI shit and and just waste cycles and cycles and have to build these fucking I talked about
    this last time but they're the fucking idea that you're gonna build just it's so it's so ridiculous you're
    gonna put data centers in some synchronous orbit I can't it actually really pisses me off I saw
    something else today that was oh I know what it was this is this will be the last thing I
    talked about because it's already an hour and a half and I'm kind of like fading I need to go
    for a walk but my mom sent me an article today from BBC and it was like it wasn't even quantum
    computers it said oh I just saw it and then I just scrolled the fuck off it said look quantum
    be bigger than AI that's the BBC news title and there's a picture of a person there holding
    some kind of quantum processor and the answer is now it it's not gonna be bigger than AI and
    the also audible air quotes AI the shit that they have now is bullshit it's just fucking bullshit
    and it's it's annoying in this case also that in like in both of these cases what is quantum
    mean like they mean cube it like quantum processors isn't there it's like what is nano tech
    mean to me when you say nano tech it means nano assemblers and like things where you have actual
    nano scale or you know sub nano scale features like single atom kind of things and machines
    that are at that scale it doesn't mean that you have titanium dioxide particles that are
    10 nanometers yeah it doesn't mean like quantum stuff I don't think people mean when they say
    quantum quantum encryption or quantum teleportation that's used in networking or stuff like this
    or you know like used to do phase arrays like optical phase array kind of stuff I don't think
    that's what they mean generally speaking now that's not to say that those aren't real things that's
    not to say that you know like there's room in astronomy you know if you're making a super powerful
    telescope to build an optical phase array and to have quantum teleportation for taking the phase
    information from photons and combining it someplace and having photonic and quantum processors
    that kind of stuff is real that's the stuff that you could actually do but this idea that
    some how quantum processors are going to be magical it's kind of bullshit it's kind of like we
    already first of all that the one thing that they would have been a little scary for is if you could
    build like a general purpose large enough like enough cube it's kind of processor we could
    attract old crypto systems very quickly very easily with them in principle at least you know
    like you could use shores algorithm and factor large numbers and the thing is now we've already
    got these post quantum cryptography things so even if you had that kind of a system it wouldn't
    magically solve that problem anymore these are these are things that just like even if you have a
    processor as far as we know there's no no algorithm it's not I don't think it's provable yet
    that you can't make something but so far as far as we know you can't solve and you just think about like
    okay well what are you going to do with that shit and you start going down the path and it's like
    there's it's not like a magical much faster version of a classical computer and also like you
    can't build because you have to have coherence over a large number of cubits to have them do
    useful stuff unless and unless you're doing like large processors that are just sort of repeating
    the same small problem over and over again many many times you could do stuff like that but like
    I mean you look at this picture that's in this article and I don't know how many cubits there
    are in the the thing but it's it's a pretty big fucking chip that probably has to be kept at
    cryogenic temperatures and I would bet it doesn't have that many cubits and again like that I'm
    sure there are applications for it and I'm sure there are applications for getting a couple
    orders of magnitude more than that but it's not really it's not going to be a very useful thing
    for most people for most you know it's not like you're going to play like kickass video games
    on that like I mean maybe maybe you take that technology decades out and you get to the point
    where you've got like phototic processors that can do real-time rendering that's indistinguishable
    from reality or or something like that but you know like in terms of the stuff that people are doing
    now and that they're going to do with these things in the foreseeable future there's no magical
    like application for them just like also like and I get I'm a guy who has been for a very long
    time in the machine learning and do like thinking computers and autonomous and semi-autonomous
    systems and that kind of stuff the stuff that people call audible air quotes AI now and again just
    like the quantum thing just like the nanotech thing they munch a lot of stuff together so like you
    have all of these things like people have been working on face recognition for decades but I
    in the 80s people were doing back propagation and doing neural networks and they were already
    starting to do stuff to like recognize characters and optical character recognition kind of stuff
    and handwriting and the in principle like faces and stuff and you just look at like the technology
    has incrementally advanced to the point where like we had I look up to eigenface paper I don't
    remember when that was but that was already pretty good pretty good I'm actually just looking
    it up now eigenfaces from the AT&T Bell library and show me the year show me the year somebody show
    me the year I'm gonna go see awesome maybe um eigenfaces 2002 so this was already pretty good
    in 2002 and identifying faces and things have gotten incrementally much better since then
    and like independent of having really good deep neural networks face recognition pretty fucking
    recognition has been pretty good for a long time and is that is that AI I don't think so I don't
    consider it so it's I guess if you call up machine learning or something but a lot of that stuff
    is not even learning in any kind of meaningful sense like learning and thinking those are very
    different than anything that these things are doing and yeah like you look at these these large language
    models and transformers and all this kind of shit um they're they're very good well
    not actually I was gonna say they're very they're okay at like language translation like
    the very good I I've spent a lot of time recently the last couple of years and I know a lot of
    people have spent a lot of time and doing like irrevict to English translation um it it sucks okay
    it actually kind of sucks it's it's pretty good but it sucks if the thing is like they feel
    pretty good because you don't know the language as well but when you start really trying you know
    and they're fine for like oh I'm gonna write a letter and you have two people who basically are
    in the same domain and you're talking about stuff that's kind of similar and yeah it's okay it's
    okay but when you start really trying to have like a deep conversation with somebody in another language
    with big cultural differences and it's kind of stuff it pretty much is shitty and that is the
    best case that is what transformers were developed for and it's kind of like and then you know
    you have this whole thing with like all of this um I don't know the thing that really
    fucking pisses me off is like people work on these stuff like Sora and you know generating images
    and video that looks pretty good uh that's it doesn't look great still like yeah I mean things
    are incrementally improved but they don't really look great but they look pretty good and you know
    you can do text to video and that that's cool I guess but it also is like what is the what is the
    fucking point and for the most part like the amount when you think about especially like the resources
    that have gone into just just like the sheer amount of technical and compute resources like
    when I say technical I mean like engineering like people figuring shit out all that kind of stuff
    so that you could make videos that do a pretty good job of fooling people and then you get the
    point where or you can make a text that's just like those shooting people that's that's a great
    like that you have to understand this is not a good thing this is not something it's not really
    helpful all that really does is sort of confuses and confounds people you got like congratulations
    you got stuff where you can make just a fast corpus of bullshit like that's that's really
    like your goal is to be able to make something that is a thousand times bigger than Wikipedia
    and that kind of sounds like Wikipedia but it's all completely full of shit you could do that
    that's a shitty goal it's not a good thing that's not something that you should do it's not
    something anyone should want to do your goal is to make video that you could just say George
    Bach or George Bush humping a lamp post and then you get a video out of George Bush humping up
    but who thinks this is a good idea who really and it goes back to again education versus
    vocational training and in this whole problem I think a lot of it is like you get
    fucking computer science people who went in and they they weren't even interested in computer
    science they're just it's the same problem with fucking doctors they're not people who are like
    want to be a doctor that people who like really want to cure people there are a lot of people
    who want to make money and so they have some you know that if they found out that making widgets
    was the best way to make money they'd be making fucking widgets they don't give a fuck
    and so they went into medicine to do that or they went into computer science
    they just take computer science courses never take a fucking ethics course never take a philosophy
    course never take a fucking art course and you know or they were going to business because they
    want to make money you notice actually the problem with all these people the common thread
    is this bullshit like pursuit of making a shit set of money for no reason but you have like
    people do that and then they don't really study these other things and they never really ask
    questions like what is the fucking reason that you're doing this what is what is it good for what is
    the it's the most ridiculous thing also because like I for a long time I've tried to work
    on some robotics stuff and I've never been able to put together the resources and
    time and all that stuff to get very far but I I have a lot of applications for it you know
    I have a lot of stuff that it's like and when I say that I don't mean like you know oh that would
    be kind of cool I mean I can come up with a lot of stuff that would be really fucking helpful for
    a lot of people and then you see these people making this shit and first off they they make these
    ridiculous humanoid things with so many unnecessary degrees of freedom and also like you got
    something that looks like a person it's creepy because it doesn't work like a person you know it
    doesn't quite feel right person is not really a great form factor like evolution got us to this
    body plan but it's not it's not really great is you if you're just kind of like starting from
    especially like if you don't have a great control system and especially especially if you're doing
    this shit that they're doing which is just you know like throwing processing at it and then just doing
    high dimensional curve fitting like it really like it I say this in the most disparaging way possible
    what they're doing fundamentally is just very high dimensional curve fitting and the same sense
    of like if you ever took physics 101 and I mean at that level you do like some kind of thing where
    you you drop a ball and you you calculate or you roll a ball down and incline plane and you do
    timing stuff and then you you make a plot and you get that plot and you have 20 points right now you could
    do a order 20 polynomial and hit every single one of those points and you'll have something that's
    kind of a model for your thing you probably don't need that and that's what they're doing is like
    that there that got so many extra parameters you can fit stuff very easily if you have enough parameters
    and I say very very easily it's computationally expensive but you can do it
    it doesn't really tell you anything it doesn't really have any insight to it
    and it's just like this whole thing that they're doing is like why what the what the fuck are you doing
    what the what the fuck are you people doing and what they're doing essentially is like wasting
    so many resources so much time chasing after some bullshit idea building stuff that like what
    what are they what do they do they're trying to take away the the fun stuff that people want to do
    as hobbies they're like oh we're gonna make stuff that you know fuck you doing photo shop here's
    a thing that just does photo shop for somebody this shitty version of it doesn't come out
    great but now somebody else who doesn't have that and you just killed somebody's career like
    yeah they they're not not even that you're doing it well but you know there are people who
    have careers that are nice and graphic design and now you've kind of eliminated that there are
    people who have I mean it's it's it's like the same thing it really is like an
    in-stage capitalism kind of thing because it's it's the same fucking thing where you had to
    all the little mom and pop shops and you make Amazon and Walmart and now you have the
    Walton's have all the money that would have come to all the little mom and pop shops in all
    these fucking cities you have Jeff Bezos getting all the money that would have gone to all these
    little shops and all these little like you think about all the little industries it's because
    it's not just the shops it's also like manufacturing it's also like distribution it's also
    having like and and you just like copy stuff make cheap burdens of it race to the bottom
    and you know everything is garbage and you're selling it and it's just it's just sucks it's just like
    the most unsustainable thing and it's also like there's no good reason for it there's no
    like I guess if you want to have a world full of wasted shit that people wasted time and money
    on but Amazon like everything my mom and sister get a lot of Amazon shit it annoys me actually
    what I'm here but you know like it's just this constant constant influx of crap and one of the
    things you really notice about it is no matter how small it is it always comes in a giant ridiculous
    box or packaging that's like excessive and this is the whole they it is absolutely emblematic of
    what it is it's just like garbage it's just garbage waiting to be garbage it's somebody somebody made
    it somebody moved it somebody's a picker they picked it they put it on a truck somebody had they
    take that shit out of me you think about all the people that had to do shitty boring jobs
    so that you could have your little piece of shit it's just garbage that's going to go into the
    recycle bin eventually or just take up space and you know like it's just like what are you
    guys doing what are you doing just stop that shit like find better shit can do we don't that you
    need food right we need food we need to grow food somehow we need sanitation it's very important actually
    we need running water we need shelter there's these are things that you actually need
    think you're on how to solve those problems and figure out how to like let people be
    able to do like the stuff like pursue stuff that's interesting and do worthwhile stuff
    and you know build a society around that kind of shit think you're on how to make cities that
    don't suck you know figure out how do you and make cities where it's not just a bunch of people
    in traffic constantly figure out how to organize society in a way where people aren't just
    fucking sitting around dying in a car every day for hours every fucking day and to go to a place
    where they're going to do a job that they didn't really need to do that if you stopped doing
    that job the world would keep spending and you know it wouldn't matter and then the thing that's
    most ridiculous about all this stuff this is this is actually going to be the last thing I say
    but you know like the jobs that are actually essential like taking picking up the trash we do
    have way too much trash in this country specifically that we make too much trash but if somebody
    didn't pick up the trash I thought about this before I was in Paris I was living there during
    a trash strike and I visited New York during a trash strike and in both cases you know like you
    don't pick up trash for a week it adds up fucking fast yeah if you don't have plumbers fixing
    shit things get literally shitty if you don't have somebody you don't have surgeon surgeons are actually
    doing yeah to some extent useful and important if you don't have people doing public health
    people get sick if you don't have people doing food safety if you don't have people making food
    growing food people die people start to death and and you think about like all the stuff that you
    actually need all the stuff that is is nice too I mean like there are little treats that you can have
    that are nice to have but you know you could make good treats and you could make those in a way
    that's not just crap made at the cheapest possible way and with people at every level as miserable
    possible you could have stuff where it's like all artisanal it could be it made it scale too but
    it's all like artisanally done and nice and people are having fun and they're enjoying it and then
    you get a question that tastes good and not like you know some goddamn box full of 10 of these
    things that are all just crap and tastes like shit and they're still bad for you or they're worse
    for you than the regular one you know it's just like what are you doing what are you doing do
    figure that shit out it does it's not even that hard it's that's the frustrating thing because
    genuinely speaking not that hard you know to figure this stuff out just like it's not that hard
    to figure out how to make a city that's a lot better than the stuff we're doing you know and
    just just do it just fucking do it please because it's doing it the way that we're doing it now
    we're going to end up so fucked in so many different ways and it is not like you know we're
    going to dodge this bullet or you know like some magical technologies a lot of people are going
    to die yeah a lot of people are going to die very badly because people wanted to have too much
    shit and not even not even good stuff not even like stuff that made them feel good just to have
    shit for the sake of having shit and it's just like it's frustrating just like you think about
    we could have high-speed trains that are powered by the sun or by hot rocks and they
    wouldn't really cause that much damage and we could you know also you could have them set up so
    that they're wildlife paths around them to get across the train so you're not killing things
    in the process and you're not fucking up the environment and yeah you could you could make a
    better world you could make a much better world and you don't and because you don't and you have
    all these people trying to have like private jets and doing doing really carbon intensive stuff
    and having like a big fuck you truck on the street you're killing little kids and you're also
    like burning so much more gas like you could you could even if you're having private cars you could
    have so much more efficiency and like why not why not do that why not why not have a car that's
    powered by the sun that's actually kind of decent to drive gets you from where do you where you are
    to where you want to be and doesn't fuck everything up massively like you could do that you don't
    need to fucking giant ass truck with the bed that I was talking with my friend about this also
    but you know like he is an old truck and he likes it and he doesn't want to get a new one
    and I think he's very right for that and these new fucking trucks that giant can't see the kids
    they're a tank and when I say they're a tank I mean like literally the trucks rolling off the
    off the line today they're bigger than tanks from World War II like truly like heavier than
    and usually it's like why what the fuck are you doing you're going to the story you're going to
    fucking go to add here someplace you don't need that you don't and it's it's not even that you don't
    need it it's like why wouldn't you even want that why don't you get out of that what is your
    you're you're working now so that you get in this giant fuck you truck versus you could have a really
    nice car that's kind of comfortable and fast and gets you there fast and you know it doesn't
    waste a shit kind of resources you could have one of those Chinese electric cars that cost
    $8000 and is nicer than the the luxury ones that we have here you can you could do that
    and we don't and it's just like what the fuck why why why do you better think better imagine better
    imagine better you could do it with that as ever thank you and

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    Hey there I'm Scott and this is Tangents.

    Well it is the 4th of November 2025 as I

    record this and when I've to talk about a few things and as I generally do I
    guess the last one of these I recorded on the first thought it was gonna be
    doing these like daily and it's been a few days but yeah we'll see we'll see how
    things go so I just watched I will get into this stuff I want to talk about
    but just a little purpose I just watched back to the future one two and three
    which are things that I saw when I was a kid and I remember very distinctly
    watching them really liking them all that kind of stuff and they're actually I'm
    kind of surprised how well they hold up and I think part of the time travel
    thing takes them out of time in a sense that you know like the 1985 stuff I
    you don't think about it being out of time because it exists in 1985 so
    you know it makes it a little bit more durable in the 1955 30 years prior to
    1985 also works 2015 is a little rough and it's it's interesting to me I was
    just thinking about this as I was microwaving my my dinner I got pizza today
    microwave a couple pieces of that and if you look at like a kitchen from 1955
    and you went to a kitchen in 1985 the differences at least in that kind of
    respect would be pretty stark like having a microwave it's a pretty big
    big thing it's not something that existed then and I guess convection
    ovens are kind of a thing although you know not really as a special
    more of an incremental improvement but when you look at sort of what they
    imagined 2015 to be a decade ago now and what it actually was it's and I
    know like predicting the future is hard it's very difficult and there are
    things like you tend to overestimate certain kinds of things and you underestimate
    other kinds of things so like the stuff like the flying cars obviously that
    was ridiculous overestimation there's there's no plausible path to something
    like that right now Mr. Fusion we don't have anything that could possibly like
    there's not even a nascent technology that could plausibly get there there
    are things like the I mean you could do like a new electronic excuse me a new
    electronic fusion and maybe you could you know but you're probably not
    putting just random garbage into the fuel light you're probably gonna have to
    put tritium or other like yeah they did anyway and then you know you think
    about like how are you gonna contain that and how you're gonna make it's we're
    nowhere near where like maybe and some at some point in the distant future they
    probably have some kind of a power cell that's very compact and very dense and
    essentially like a compact fusion reaction or reactor that could make your
    cars fly and they could do all kinds of stuff like that yeah we're not we're
    not anywhere near that you could get your 1.21 jigsaw from something like that
    maybe but we're again not really not really gloves and they have this
    rehydrateer thing which is just yeah you put a pizza in and like three seconds
    later you have a fresh hot pizza pretty pretty pretty far from anything that
    we could plausibly have anytime and anytime soon let's just say that
    now it would be cool I mean it would be cool to have like a replicator it
    would be cool to have something where you say tea or a gray hot and just like
    appears out of thin air but again no real plausible path to something like that
    anytime soon so it's just it's just kind of interesting to me how both the
    predictions are pretty pretty out there and I don't give you a wrong I enjoy
    I enjoy the like power laces and the self-drying jacket thing that's
    self-sizing and all of this kind of stuff it's cool but I don't know it partly
    and I'm not trying to say that things have stagnated because obviously on a
    long time scale things have not and there are a lot of technologies that for
    example they just did not predict like the cell phones that we had in 2007
    did not even come close to anything like that some things look radically more
    advanced than that and other things just not even it's like I started watching
    like a year ago the old original series of Star Trek and when you look at
    some of the stuff that they imagined like warp drive and transporters
    we don't have anything like those things we don't have any real plausible
    engineering path using not just existing technology but like we can't really
    envision something that could be in principle engineered to make those things
    work yeah at least in unless you go sort of like the most abstract sense just
    couldn't do it maybe and I'm not rolling them out as possible it is although
    there are pretty good reasons to suspect that warp drives at least that are
    super-liminal probably unfortunately don't exist or maybe it's fortunate I
    don't know it depends on your perspective but yeah because the way
    relativity works if you can travel faster than light you basically instantly
    get a time machine and when I say a time machine I mean like you can go to the
    past you can make clothes to time like loops and then all bets are off the
    the traveling across the the galaxy or the universe at super high speeds is
    about the least interesting thing that happens when you have a warp drive
    but anyway getting from getting from that I did them drifting way out of where
    I wanted to talk about the thing I wanted to talk about here is the reason that I
    brought that up is there was the word density you are my density destiny in the
    first one and the density thing and I know this is just this is completely random
    and disconnected but the density thing made me think and I'm in LA right now and
    I lived in Phoenix for many years and in both of these cases like I spent I've
    spent some a few months in Tokyo I've spent like nine months in Paris and it's
    really striking to me and I've lived other places I've visited a lot of decent
    number of places it's really striking to me how density works in terms of like
    cities and in particular like if you look it's it's dark out now as I'm
    recording this but if you could sort of look around the neighborhood I'm in it's
    a bunch of single family homes and each one of these single family homes has a pretty
    big footprint in terms of like the actual land use now maybe it has a little yard or
    something but it's a few people in a fairly decent amount of square meters and you
    know it's that next to that next to that next to that and this big just vast not
    quite endless but if essentially it feels like endless in all directions I could
    walk for hours and hours and hours and it'd be just more of the same and you
    look at the same stuff and if you imagine like you just picked these houses up and
    you stack them on top of each other don't don't do anything else just took
    these houses somehow stack them on top of each other like I don't know in a big
    building the amount like without changing the density of the city the amount of
    free space that you have for parks suddenly magically becomes enormous like you
    could have instead of having this thing that feels like there are a couple
    trees and they don't give me wrong there are a decent number of trees it's not like
    zero plants or vegetation but it feels very far from wilderness if you stacked
    people on top of each other you could build parks and it would essentially feel
    like you were in wild space like on you know not not not really I don't want to
    say civilized it's not the right word unspoiled space and similarly also you
    could look at that and then say well what if we do that and then we move some
    places together so now you still have the same stacked buildings but you have
    it arranged in a way that now you have a little bit more density you still have
    also these parks and the reason I talk about these parks in Tokyo it's really
    striking like if you there are cities where you walk around the city and I mean
    New York has obviously central park but there are a lot of places in New York where
    it just feels like dead and barren and I'm not saying Tokyo doesn't have that
    as well but there are a lot of places in Tokyo for example where you have these
    big parks or big like walking paths and they're next to a river and it just
    kind of feels a little bit more natural I'm not going to get I'm not using
    Tokyo is like the best example of this but just it sort of shows you a glimpse of
    what might be almost kind of possible if you did a really good sort of
    rational design for a city and especially if you had a way to quickly I
    obviously this is tricky because you have a bunch of existing homes and you
    have to get people to be willing to relocate or move their shit or whatever but
    if you had the ability to just take you know a big chunk of LA and convert it into
    stacked buildings you could get so much so much more and another thing that comes
    from that density if you do it well aside from just being able to have these kinds
    of unspoiled spaces is now you can put in and again New York has a decent subway
    not great but it's decent LA in some places has kind of surprisingly not
    terrible subway and in fact if you go on the subway itself it almost feels like
    a real city you don't get the same feeling like where you can and again I'm not
    not the whole Tokyo but Tokyo or Paris or New York you could just kind of walk
    around in a lot of areas and if you get tired you just go okay well fuck
    this I'm done walk over to a subway station hop on a train and then take the
    train and maybe do a transfer and then you're back wherever you're wherever you're
    going if you're here or if you're in Phoenix which is even worse than LA and
    this regard you could walk in some direction and first off in LA is at least like
    there's some green there's some density some things are not terrible like this
    Phoenix there are islands of that but for the most part it's just this vast
    suburban sprawl that just goes on in every direction and you could drive for an
    hour in almost every direction if you're in central Phoenix literally you
    could head in a direction go an hour and it's just suburban sprawl continuously
    and it's this low density everybody gets their own private house which means
    everybody has to figure out maintenance which means everybody has to have their own
    lawn mower because you know a lot of people have ridiculous lawns that don't
    really belong in the desert everybody has or you have to hire people to do it
    everybody has there's just so much duplication of resources it's such an
    inefficient way to organize things and so wasteful as well in addition to just
    being like a terrible use of space and I talked to some people about this I
    posted something on no I guess in LinkedIn and Facebook about it and somebody
    said something I don't remember where but basically said you know like oh I
    can't can't stand being stacked at the idea of having somebody on top of me is
    terrible and blah blah blah and it's so annoying and I will say I had I lived in
    an apartment in Phoenix that was like a four story apartment building and I had
    to move because the upstairs neighbors had ridiculously heavy feet and yeah
    I was at any time I was in there yeah I hope that's didn't I don't
    hope that didn't just blow out your speakers I'm sorry but it was a terrible thing
    it was a horrible experience but the thing is a socially you know like you
    don't need to walk like that it's something it's definitely something that you
    can learn to not be an asshole it's it's not like intrinsically I'm
    trying to like to am sure there are people that can't regulate that but I'm
    always part you could do something about it but also more importantly than
    that it's possible to build things that are insulated well and this is one of
    the things that Phoenix really fucks up there are places I had another friend
    that said something about you know like well they they thought the same thing
    then they moved to an apartment in Scottsdale and it was just silent and of
    course if you live someplace that's well built and it's well insulated it's
    very quiet even if you have neighbors you don't have to like my sister's place
    not super well built expensive but not super well built and she has a
    neighbor that's not even attached and in her I'm standing in the kitchen right
    now and for some reason the neighbors right next door I don't know what they're
    doing but they're walking or whatever it literally sounds and that this is a
    three story building literally sounds like they're above me like it's it's
    the weirdest thing and I can I suspect probably what it is is the you know it's
    like some kind of resonance thing or like the structure of their place is
    similar enough to this that the frequency that things happened to to click
    at over there are similar over here and then if they're stepping in a certain
    place that distribution of frequencies resonates over here and then it
    sounds like the same kind of thing I don't know if that's the case or not it could
    be you know making up the story but it kind of makes sense to me there's
    something definitely going on because it really does feel like there's somebody
    above you even though obviously there's not but it's it's weird I don't know
    what it is but again you can build things that are not like that you can
    build things with proper insulation and another advantage that you get with
    this kind of structure is like if you look at the volume to surface area the
    more surface area you have for unit volume the more heat dissipation you have
    so the more either heat coming in or heat going out that you have so that means
    more insulation more climate control it's it's less efficient just in
    general and so if you stack things on top of each other and you do it well you
    could have things where you have less insulation or you use less power to
    maintain a comfortable temperature that's that's not that complicated you could
    do a lot of things and I just like the way that all this stuff is done and the
    thing I think that fundamentally it comes down to is like everybody is
    optimizing for themselves personally without consideration of anyone else and
    when you do that what that ends up doing is making things fuck for everybody
    including yourself incidentally I've talked about this a few times but like I'm
    a pilot and being a pilot is kind of cool it's kind of fun but a it's
    ridiculously expensive like in practical and unless you make a fuck ton of
    money it's very expensive and it's kind of weird actually I follow people on
    on YouTube who for example have a serious SR22T turbo it's it's like a
    over a million dollar plane and I don't know how I don't know what these people
    I mean I do kind of like know what they do for a living I don't know how they're
    making the money that they're making but they have enough money to pay for that
    and it just doesn't it doesn't almost add up it's kind of weird like they
    the and I understand also like the amount that some people make is just so
    unfathomable and that you know you see like a glimpse of that and that the
    person that has like a million dollar claim they're poor compared to the
    person as a 10 or 20 million dollar jet who is poor compared to the person as a
    50 million dollar jet who is poor compared to the person that has a multi-hundred
    million dollar jet you know it it stacks up pretty badly and of course when you
    start getting into that territory you start seeing the people that are a way
    above you and so the stuff that it seems like a ridiculous luxury to standard
    plug-in and in those circumstances it's like oh that's that's pathetic that's
    sad like they they see the serious as sort of like a poor person you know like oh
    that's that's cute right you know that's or maybe it's a hobby thing but it's
    not really a thing that you would want to do and I understand that because it's
    yeah and this is kind of what I'm talking about if you fly that a it's it's
    let it gas which is fucking weird the fact that we haven't gotten rid of
    let it gas and they're they're slowly phasing it out and there are there
    technical like there are good technical reasons why they haven't I'm not
    trying to say oh you should just do it in that you know there there there is a
    reason that stuff is the way it is they're phasing it out slowly over time but
    it's it's it's obscene that we've got let it gas still in 2025 and knowing the
    damage the tetraetha lead does to people it's it's just wild and then yeah
    the piston small single engine piston aircraft and again like a serious it has
    the cap system the service the airframe parachute it it makes it relatively
    safe relatively but that engine fails and you're kind of fucked and you know
    like the best case scenario and you're coming down and you use the parachute
    you're in a situation we're using the parachute as viable are you gonna land
    on somebody's house are you gonna you know like what happens there and then it
    has this crush stuff underneath which keeps you from getting really badly
    injured but still yeah you're getting a few G's you're getting enough G's to do
    some damage it's not great for you and then yeah you're probably not gonna be
    in a fire but you could be good there was a I don't know if it was FedEx or UPS
    or DHL or something something just I can't remember what it was it was like Louisiana
    to Hawaii just literally today had a failure this is a jet plane by the way so it's
    not like a single engine plane had an engine fire and a failure and then took
    off and immediately crashed and crashed full of fuel to go all the way to Hawaii
    so pretty bad outcome and that's that's a jet engine that's a thing where you have
    more reliability of ideally more maintenance although I I do wonder with stuff
    like this you know if you don't maintain stuff well and it's expensive to maintain
    it eventually things fail and because it's expensive and because people are trying
    to cut cut corners and cuts costs and all those kind of stuff and again they're
    optimizing for short-term personal benefit without sort of long-term or
    collective benefit in mind not certainly not optimizing for the crew they don't
    care about that they just want to pay the least amount of money for things and
    certainly not for the people that are gonna be endangered by this stuff or any of
    this stuff because of that problem I think a lot of companies are not
    maintaining stuff at the level that used to or they should be certainly but
    anyway going back you have that even if you have a jet like the serious is
    like puddling around in the sky you can go like if you're going from Phoenix to
    say Sedona it's a nice kind of half hour 45 minute flight it's not too bad you
    can go to the grand canyon you can even go to Colorado and it's not that bad
    or even LA is not that bad expensive but not that bad but when you start going
    on anything longer distance than that it's really annoying because you're gonna
    have to land you don't have a bathroom on the thing so you gotta pee if it's
    if you're single pilot even if you had a bathroom on the thing and people do
    have like urinal kind of they I mean they I can't even remember what they're
    called but it's like a thing that you can pee into they have that sort of
    stuff and if you oh look at this mom Donnie was just elected mayor of New York
    city so I just got a text message saying this and fuck yes hell yeah and it's
    fucking like fuck chuckles by the way shumer I will get back to this
    thought I wanted to talk about it just the number of fucking Democrats vote
    blue no matter who who would not endorse this motherfucker and I'm not like
    I don't think endorsements are really I have in effect I have very serious
    problems and doubts about electoral politics and especially like the
    popularity contest stuff and all that I've talked about this I think the
    last time and a couple other times but you know that I and I don't think
    endorsements are that big of a deal but it is the standard thing to do and
    chuckles I'm pretty fucking sure voted for the sex pest voted for the asshole who
    should not have even been running should not have been like the fact that you
    let people like this run like the fact that that motherfucker had any kind of
    career at all at all after the shit that he did it's just it's just fucking
    ridiculous it's laughable it shows how low your fucking standards are just like
    the main Nazi guy like the fact that that guy didn't get drummed out the fact
    that there are people defending him it's fucking wild and ridiculous it
    fucking bizarre and anyway I'm gonna take a minute now and just enjoy this
    and message some people and then I will resume so hopefully it won't be too
    much of a disruption but you won't even notice the time passing okay I'm
    processing this and I gotta say it feels fucking good it feels fucking good I
    needed I'm not saying I needed a win I mean you know obviously things are okay
    for me I'm not like in a terrible terrible position I have you know a place to
    stay I have a roof over my head I have food I have you know relatively
    comfortable situation even though it's not ideal but I will say this motherfucker
    winning and all the fucking assholes like oh we're gonna leave New York if he
    wins and all these fucking islamophobic like openly openly islamophobic
    things about how it's like in 9-11 kind of fuck you fuck you fucking people you
    absolutely big assholes get the fuck out get the fuck out leave the keys behind
    that you know New York is not your city go fuck yourselves it just irritates
    me it fucking irritates me don't get me wrong also it's fucking beautiful like
    chuckles today literally fucking today said he voted for somebody and he'll
    something something like whoever is the mayor wouldn't even didn't have the
    fucking balls to say that he didn't vote for Mombani obviously didn't vote
    for fucking Mombani did like fucking asshole fucking asshole needs to
    resign asshole needs to fucking resign and he's not the only one like so many
    these just you know like you guys you have had so much fucking given to you
    so much shit you have the ability to retire you have like think about how
    many people in the US could retire and you could be so fucking comfortable I
    don't even know what his net worth is but it's comfortable enough he could
    retire his is fucking retirement plan which most of us like he's got a fucking
    pension you know what a pension is you know what a pension is like pensions
    this is how pensions exist anymore my dear they're about there my dad worked 29
    years and 11 months for national steel and that's that's kind of an odd amount
    of time it almost sounds like 30 years but it's just not quite 30 years you
    know why because this the company got acquired and there was a bunch of other bullshit
    I'm not I don't want to get the details too much but the basic thing is at 30
    years you would have found his full pension and because it was 29 years and 11
    months and you know like basically got fucked out of the full pension deliberately
    so by design and now like a pension is just not even a thing people can you you can't even
    conceive of the notion of it people in the fucking government they have them and when I say
    people in the government I mean the fucking senators have them and it's just irritating it's
    fucking irritating it's one of the things that really pisses me off about the main Nazi guy
    because this motherfucker A he went to private school he's not a poor kid he went to private
    school could have gone to a nice university but instead volunteered the join-up and went off
    and they did a tour and they did another tour they did another tour and they did another tour
    that I think that was for right and then he worked for fucking black water as a mercenary like it
    it's just it's just disgusting and that motherfucker could potentially be a senator which would
    mean not only does he get a almost 200 thousand dollar a year salary which is not going to be
    his only salary but you know like plus staff which would be into the millions of dollars plus a lot
    of travel benefits plus health care plus retirement plan and six years of job security and
    all this did you just do not let this motherfucker get into the goddamn sent do not there are other
    people there are hundreds literally hundreds of thousands of people at least by my math based on
    demographics and the number of registered Democrats in Maine it's order of 200 thousand people
    who are eligible in Maine to be a senator and you're picking this guy with the fucking coat and
    cough for 20 years with the black water mercenary who like I mean like the more I learn about them
    too like oh he the one thing that sounded like halfway good about him it's like oh he said he was
    a socialist or a communist once well yeah except he completely disavowed that it took a bunch of
    brow-beating before he said anything about the Nazi tattoo or anything about it but without any prompting
    the motherfucker went off in disavowed and you could just search for this but there's been a bunch
    of articles disavowed being a communist and being a socialist which would have been like the one
    nice thing about him and no he won't do that it's just it's just like the guy could go fuck himself
    and the fact that people are sitting there saying like oh you got it we got it we got to take
    what we can get no one fuck you fuck you I'm so fucking tired of that bullshit it's so I'm not
    like I'm not a great politician by any means I would not want to be in elected office to be honest
    but I ran I've run a couple of times I ran as a green in within Andy Biggs's district so
    Gilbert Arizona a little bit of a right-wingingish kind of place but I ran openly as a very
    lefty green candidate wearing a mask and I swear to God the only reason I didn't come close to I mean
    I still I still did pretty well I have to say I feel pretty good about how I did but there were two
    seats three candidates no Democrat even running bothered the I mean there was one person who kind of
    like half-est ride but and and to her defense the signature requirements for running for these
    offices are ridiculous so you know she didn't put in the time in the effort the money to get them
    but also they are exorbitant there to be fair but she didn't get ballot access I had ballot access
    so it was like green Republican Republican two seats if you mother fuckers would have voted for me
    like you know that the the house and the Senate in Arizona are like two seats from tipping
    do you know what one or two seats would do and especially like if it's one or two seats
    that somebody like me instead of just a Democrat that's a powerful fup in position to be in
    it's not like I'm yeah anyway I don't want to the main reason I don't think I won is if
    there don't lot of Democrats didn't vote for me because they saw a green and they're like fuck you
    there's no you know you should have voted for me if you guys it would have sucked for me I would have
    done the job but it would have sucked I wouldn't have been too excited about it but I I know
    with a lot of confidence because I talked to a bunch of people granted I didn't do I didn't
    didn't do polling so maybe I'm just speculating here maybe I'm not right I think I'm right
    I am pretty fucking sure that a bunch of Democrats did not vote for me bunch of Republicans voted for
    me because these two Republicans were assholes I met them both their garbage people
    they're both in the state house now of course terrible people fucking horrible people
    but a bunch of Republicans and independence voted for me I and quite confident of that
    and these are the independence also like the Democrats are always talking about how oh we got to go
    for the independent you don't know who the fuck the independence are like this is I hate all this
    shit this middleing bullshit like oh well we have to go in the in the middle the air quotes
    middle between the Democrats who are right of Reagan just to be clear they are right on many
    issues of Ronald fucking Reagan who was the the example of terrible right wing politician
    and then you have between that that's the the leftist point that they're starting from and the
    guy damn fucking white nationalist crystal fascist and our go capitalist radical Republicans
    someplace between those two is where they're going to try to put themselves that's why they
    abandoned trans people that's why they abandoned immigrants that's why all this other bullshit
    and they did all that stuff and completely alienated people like me who otherwise would have been
    you know and you know they like the funny thing is it doesn't even look like Harris lost
    because of the genocide which is pathetic the genocide should have done it for but even with that
    she could have won but she did all this other shit chasing after people who were never going
    to vote for her never going to vote for her nobody wants for public and light she's chasing after
    them giving a middle finger to anyone even left of Reagan and the of course you lost a fucking
    course you lost it's pathetic the only thing she had to offer was marginally better than Trump
    and even that is generous because like in the fucking debate she and Trump got in an argument
    over who is more pro-frakin in a time when we're in like a pivotal point in the climate catastrophe
    or we could actually still do something to not be in like a horrible fucked up position
    and you two are arguing over who can get us their faster like fuck you fucking pieces of shit
    anyway I'm I'm just enjoying this I really am I'm not I'm not trying to be like better
    and giving too much of a middle finger here and obviously you have to reach across the island
    and there's everybody's mayor and I think it's still fuck all you people fuck all you people who are
    sitting there talking about how and they don't also like the Islamophobia the red scare bullshit
    all this other shit this stuff like oh we can't have socialized medicine every other in fact
    I'm not even going to say every other because they say every other developed country implies
    the US is a developed country every developed country has universal health care every developed
    country has some form of if not like free education the amniere free higher education
    or very inexpensive higher education every developed country has like social safety nuts of
    some form and the United States is not a fucking developed country this is how you know this is
    like they're they're the tells if you look at safety for example the US is not close the US
    is ridiculously dangerous now it is true like even being ridiculously dangerous it's not as dangerous
    as people imagine but compared to a lot of places it's fucking dangerous it's fucking ridiculous
    your the life expectancy here is decreasing and it's not that great your healthcare sucks
    your healthcare and it's like it's people will always say oh we have the best healthcare in the
    world if you can pay for no even if you can pay for it even people who have money they can pay for
    now if you have a certain amount of money I will I will give you like if you have so much money
    you can have a private doctor and like real concierge career maybe you're in an okay position but
    even then it's dubious because pe private equity taking over everything and they're doing the
    concierge stuff they're not they're not your friends they're not taking care of you but if you're
    a normal person and when I say a normal person I mean even if you're making like hundreds of thousands
    of dollars a year and you have air quotes good health insurance your experience if you ever
    needed if you ever get really sick if you ever have a bad accident or your kid gets cancer
    or whatever the fuck you're gonna find pretty quickly that shit sucks that fucking shit sucks
    you will have millions of dollars a dead very easily or it'll certainly drain whatever savings you
    have and you know it never might also like if you get if you age in this country they will do
    all of this stuff that will just rob you of your money rob you of any assets you have and then
    you know you're just fucked it's not gonna really extend your life it's certainly not gonna
    improve your quality of life but maybe maybe you'll live like an extra six months or a year or something
    but it'll suck it'll be miserable and it will completely eliminate any good experiences that
    your your family has with you and anything you can hand down to them and it's just it's just like
    it's so fucked here it's so fucked does not need to be this way it does not need to be this way
    this is one reason why I do wish and I understand like people don't have the resources to travel
    which is kind of a fucked up thing about this country I do think the right to roam which includes
    having an ability to do it and I'm not saying everybody should be flying around the planet all the
    time but there should be ways like high speed trans for example and you know maybe electric or
    nuclear boats that let you travel places without having a huge carbon impact and with those things
    you should be able to see other places and if you see other places and you learn about other stuff
    you start looking and you're like why is it so fucked up here if you go I talk a lot about Japan
    because I've been there a few times but you go there or you go to China or you go to France or Spain
    or you know like most other countries most other air quotes developed countries the
    actually developed countries there's fucking high speed train like high speed train powered by
    nuclear reactor so it's essentially carbon neutral they travel thousands of kilometers
    across China in hours it's it's wild it's wild how fucked up and shitty it is here
    but anyway I'm I'm kind of I'm simultaneously like really enjoying this and also just
    unloading a little bit because I'm fucking irritated with all these people
    but keep making things worse the keep you know like truckles needs to fucking retire
    and when I say truckles I'm focused on him because he is one of the more prominent Democrats
    but I mean even even even the guys that I like even even like a Bernie needs to retire
    even the only Democrat that I can think of at a national level who I even feel like a little
    maybe she could stay is Rashida and I'm a little nervous even about her just as I'm as much as I'm
    talking about mombani and I like him I'm technically notice I'm not I'm mostly talking about other
    things that are negative but you know there's a lot of positive stuff about him he's pro cop right
    he's not my favorite kind of position on that let's just say you know Rashida is a Democrat
    and the fact that she's a Democrat even with all the party going against her even with them
    trying to primary or all this other bullshit I still worry but I've never seen anything specific
    from her that gives me pause and I've only seen good stuff from her so you know maybe she's okay
    but I just I just remembered Katie Porter that fucking video of her chewing ass out of a
    a staffer though I don't know if I talked about that before but if you haven't seen it
    and this is one of those things also like you could tell and I I'm going to talk a little bit
    about literacy because there's there's a literacy that people like there's the obvious literacy
    which is you can pick up a piece of text and read it that is a sort of literacy right but there's
    also a literacy which is you could read between the lines you can understand more than what is just
    there at the surface level you can read a piece of work and understand like what is the author
    trying to say kind of understand what is the context in which this exists what is it mean
    what is what is the significance and and it's not just written material it's also things like that
    video and you can see like there's a difference between somebody is just somebody who is like stressed out
    and somebody you know like pushes a little too hard at the wrong time and they snap at them
    that's the thing that happens right that's a that's a thing that could happen to all of us
    but when you do that you catch yourself pretty quickly you apologize pretty quickly
    if you watch that Katie Porter video what you actually see is her being just completely shitty
    to her staffer who just got in the shot and the staffer corrects her on something that she was
    bad and mistaken on and she choose them out completely and the way that it comes off there to me
    is this is a person who has a nice kind of mask that she puts on in public and that's not
    who she is she's the person who like the actual Katie Porter I'm pretty sure is the one chewing
    other stuff and it's also like you you look at that there's other reports of stuff like this it's
    not like there's not the first time that you've heard about this is just the first and worst
    video that I've seen of redoing it and you look at that and it's just like this is your fucking
    governor and your governor to real candidate who's good and like again California is not a small
    state right you have lots of people who are eligible to be governor here first off we don't really
    need and I'm not saying that you can't have white people be in office but we fit we fit we've
    don't we don't have harm you know there's there's something like this state has plenty of other
    people who could be in office maybe maybe give them a chance and of course also I'm not saying
    that just because somebody happens to be black or brown they're automatically good like
    have a fucking threshold because there are plenty of people who are terrible who just happened to
    look a certain way I will say actually the mayor of Los Angeles I'm pretty fucking pissed off at
    and I I'm so irritated with myself here because I should have known I should have known that she
    was a piece of shit but you know like I Coruso terrible person he's a Republican
    Rianna's a Democrat this is the problem because all these fucking things and this gets back
    to that main fucking Nazi guy you get you you have so many people who could run for these
    offices they make it very difficult the access requirements for running for office are huge
    this is one of the reasons why a lot of people don't do it because in addition to not
    really understanding civics and not learning about it getting ballot access is a giant fucking
    pain in the ass if you have resources and you're plugged in it's not that big of a threshold it's
    not that big of a hurdle but if you're just a regular person and you want to run for Congress
    or for mayor of Los Angeles or for mayor of New York for that matter it takes so much effort just
    to get on the ballot it's ridiculous and then once you're there it takes so much money and effort
    in time that you you basically have to be a little bit rich you have to have something going for
    you you have to be very known in advance or be extraordinarily charismatic or have you know a few
    things kind of in your pocket that are helping you otherwise it's just not a realistic thing
    or you have to have so much time there's a reason that a lot of people like the people who actually
    end up getting on the ballot who are not in the sort of normal sort of path they're either
    people like Andy Biggs who won the fucking lottery like you look up how he got well it wasn't the
    lottery I guess it was the publishers fairing house or whatever so some kind of you know basically
    won the lottery equivalent he did that and he's like well I've got this money now I'm going to run
    for office that will get you in you can pay to get ballot access absolutely you can pay to have
    people do an image for you and make all your your stuff and get you the point where you're kind of
    presentable and that the threshold is low right if you're somebody who's extremely like you're
    retired and you have an extreme amount of time and a lot of energy and a lot of ability to do
    stuff that can get you in yeah you can convert a little bit of you know sort of horsepower
    elbow grease so to speak you could convert that to the equivalent of money you're going to spend
    a lot more time in effort than somebody with money or who's plugged in but you could still do it
    and the other one is like if you're a deadbeat dead cinema kind of person a guy ego or you're a
    space cinema kind of person like Mark Kelly and your wife was was she a senator or she I think she was
    a representative I don't even remember what the fuck she was it was before my time but whatever
    her's wife was you can you can get in to the party and then they set up this thing where it's like
    okay well the second that you go you're going to have all these donations and you're going to look
    this is I'm sure what happened with this so sparking may not see guy do a bunch of stuff
    so behind the scenes all of a sudden you come out of the gate and you look like you're an explosive
    just overnight sensation because you had a lot of help and you had a lot of people kind of
    pulling for you and doing stuff for you um you know it's not real let's just say that and then
    you can get on there and that's that's one way to get it and what it should be and in Germany
    in other places it's a little bit better on this random people should be able to go in fact it
    should be random people running for office and in fact also if it's I've said this in the last
    one or maybe two ago if you recognize the name of somebody on the primary ballot and there's
    somebody else you don't recognize the name of by default you should vote for the person who's
    name you don't recognize if somebody who's name you don't know asks you to sign their thing
    their petition to get ballot access probably sign it there only hesitation I have there is that
    the way that it's set up which is fucked up is at least in Arizona you can only sign one for each
    so you can't sign like five different petitions you should be able to you should be able to
    say okay you want to be secretary of state sign years old sign years old sign and in fact also you
    shouldn't even have to it should be like if you want to be secretary of state or senator or any
    kind of statewide office you personally and you can't send a proxy to do this you can't pay people
    to do it you can't it has to be you you have to go around to like each district or whatever
    and get signatures it doesn't have to be a lot of signatures it could be five signatures
    from each county or something like that or maybe it's 20 signatures I don't really care there's
    some threshold that is reasonable it's like enough that it's not going to be like
    everybody doing it but it's not ridiculously intractable right that should be the threshold
    and then each time there's a primary should be a lot of people right and personally I
    talked about this before but I think certification is the right way like it shouldn't even be
    people deciding that they want to run because the people that decide that they want to run
    probably are you know like almost by definition not the people who should be in those positions
    and I include myself there like the fact that I even thought that me running is a good idea
    probably a red flag and certainly like if you look at like Trump or Hillary or genocide Joe
    or or Harris or space cinema or deadbeat dads cinema or the main Nazi any of these people
    none of these people should be in office none of these people should be anywhere near the levers of power
    chuckles nobody should you know he should have been at most like a one or two term or
    and then go off and do something else it's ridiculous that he is in the position he's at
    it's ridiculous that Pelosi is able to decide she's not going to run again and just keep running
    and going until then that's that should not be the fact that that happens the fact that you
    have people that just do this their whole lives I just hear my mom's cat is just staring at me right
    but the fact that you have that should be a red flag that's something like it's a problem it
    means you don't have an actual democracy he's he's really staring in totally at me it's very
    distracting in which I had a picture of this I don't have my phone with me it's over in the other
    side and if I move over there to get it he's going to he's going to bolt so there's no way I'm going
    to get a picture of this but it is funny and it's distracting but anyway hey Snoop what are you doing
    what are you doing um totally blew my mental stack I have no idea what I was going to talk about next
    I guess what am I what was I going to talk about I have the I'm looking at my notes
    I had the Trump thing in back to the future I thought about talking about that I don't really
    want to talk about that I'm much more excited about on Donnie right now and uh don't really want
    to think about that I do think one thing I do want to talk about actually is I was reading this
    shit um I don't know why I'm on fucking LinkedIn I I know I don't kind of why I'm on LinkedIn
    but I should be on LinkedIn isn't there's nothing good that comes from being on LinkedIn if I'm
    if I'm being completely honest it's just a waste of time it's just a terrible place to be
    but but but I come to I come in here and they have the like trending stuff and in the trending
    stuff you know one of the things they have uh today was this thing by the CEO of Google
    and he's like our our TPUs are heading her tensor processing units are headed for space
    inspired by the history of moon shots from quantum and reading this because it's yeah
    from quantum computers to autonomous driving project sun catchers exploring how we could one day build
    scare scalable machine and it's ML but machine learning compute systems in space harnessing
    more of the sun's power which in its more power than a hundred trillion times humanity's total
    available like any moon shop level one and so they they talk about these you know early research
    so shows that our new TPUs uh survived without damage when tested in a particle accelerator
    to simulate uh low earth orbit levels of radiation which I I'm really yeah either they're using
    very large features or I really might my suspicion is it's like what what is the dose and what
    is the duration when you talk there's a lot that goes under radiation testing and you like you
    could put anything you could stick your head in a particle accelerator and if it's a brief enough
    blast and the doses in that much you might be fine you could also you know sit there for hours and
    hours and be cooked um you know if you put chips in space and you have cosmic rays
    it's not good for you it's not good for the chips the chips will fail there's a reason that we use
    technology in the space that is very like the features are large the stuff is like decades old
    it's rad hard and all this kind of stuff but never mind that one now never mind that now the thing
    about being in space the thing the reason that the stuff is ridiculous completely fucking ridiculous
    is like you look at all these um and I I'm that word is escaping me for some reason
    you look at all these data centers and they're extremely extremely thirsty they take ridiculous amounts
    of water what do you think they're doing with that water what do you think that they need that water
    for it's per cooling and for the cooling like all the power that you put into the thing is going
    to come out as waste heat that's that's just how energy works that's not like that's the basic
    thermodynamics that's night somebody who's taking you don't even have to take a semester
    of thermodynamics you should just kind of know that but you put energy in and even if you do work
    that's useful with that it's going to eventually just be waste heat so what do you do with all
    that heat and space you don't have lots of water and even if you had lots of water you are stuck
    with radiate of cooling and I mean I guess if you had a ridiculous amount of water you could do
    evaporative cooling with it that's not a very sustainable way to do stuff because it's just like
    evaporating off into nothing but if you're just doing radiative cooling you look at the space station
    you see all those solar panels and then they have these other things that are about as big as the
    solar panels those are to radiate away heat and the space station doesn't have like huge amounts of
    power that it's using I mean that the I guess it depends on what is your scale of huge amounts of
    power but compared to like the power density of say a data center not a huge amount what are you
    going to do with all that fucking heat there's just it's is that feasible there's no way you can have
    a huge data center lying in space in a sun synchronous orbit they're talking about so that's
    it's in it's at least somewhat radiation protected because it's not in like higher
    but it's still it's going to be in a place where it's in the sun all the fucking time
    the sun is putting in a lot of energy now you make get a lot of power out of that you get a lot of heat
    coming in from that you got to balance the heat off somehow and you got to radiate away all that
    extra heat so you gotta have like it's just I don't know the whole thing irritates the shit out of me
    because it's just and then he says
    however significant challenges remain like thermal management and onboard system reliability
    I just kind of like wave those you know just just kind of like casually throw those out
    thermal management is a complete deal breaker for this it's it's not like a trivial thing it's a
    thing that is going to kill it or I guess you can I mean certainly you can have processing
    on the edge and you can do like small amounts of compute for certain things but you're not putting
    the fucking data center in sun synchronous orbit it's certainly I guess if you have like massive
    amounts of space infrastructure and you can build huge radiators you could do it but we're not there
    we're not anywhere near there and if you're launching shit you're just it's just that feasible it's
    not fucking feasible and it irritates the shit out of me because this kind of also like you look at
    him the fact that he's CEO fucking pisses me off but never mind that now he's CEO he has
    he went to the Wharton School at an MBA from there yeah that's just like fucking but he also has
    a masters in material science and engineering from Stanford and then batch physics and technology
    from IIT so the masters in material science and engineering you would think would cover thermodynamics
    and the thing that bothers me is like if you understood the least amount about thermodynamics you would
    know this is not fucking feasible and it's just like I don't know you think about also the amount
    of power like the amount of money that is going to go into this the do space kind of stuff
    making chips and going you're like launching them I don't get me wrong I do support and like
    general interest kind of stuff I like basic research it's very important to do it's very useful to
    do and you know I completely support that that's not what they're doing though they're doing this
    air quotes moon shot to put server farms in sons and granos orbit and it's just pretty much
    ridiculous and the fact that you have people running companies like trillion dollar companies
    allocating tens hundreds of billions of dollars for these projects it's just so misguided
    it's the opposite like I'm sitting here at the beginning talking about how you know if you
    rationally designed a city and you did it well you could put in a bunch of density you could have
    you think about like just looking around here you could have all these people in smaller homes
    currently with a lot more space and that space could be much more comfortable you could have gardens
    and parks and all those kind of stuff around them you could have a bunch of restaurants and shops
    all over the place within easy walking distance and highly accessible so if you're a wheelchair user
    you can get right to them you can go like five minutes from wherever you live and you're on a
    fucking train and then you go from that train to a train state and you know like a little local
    light real kind of thing or better get a subway you go from that subway to a train station
    and then you get to that train station and you can go a couple thousand kilometers away in you know
    a day and you're doing that on sun power that mean literally in Phoenix
    or an Arizona weather you could power trains going up and down the state with solar going a
    few hundred kilometers per hour and it would be like I took this bus I think I talked about this
    I took a greyhound from Phoenix to the flag staff a couple of months or two ago
    and it was okay it was fine not my favorite thing I wouldn't do it again
    ended up taking a car back with some other people that were there wouldn't do it again
    and you think about the experience of doing that like the frequency it was two two greyhounds a day
    do that trip if you go from like say you live in Tokyo or Kyoto and I'm sorry I could go
    back to Japan but if you are there during the normal days especially like a weekend
    every five minutes literally every like three to five minutes there's a fucking high-speed train
    a shinkansen going from Kyoto to Tokyo and like or Osaka and you're just like every
    fucking five minutes that's there you don't have to go through security you just get to take it
    doesn't cost that much it's not like cheap cheap but it's pretty cheap it's powered by hot rocks
    or in Arizona it could be powered by the fucking sun there's a place where fucking solar is a good
    thing because you have like heat dissipation you could actually do something with it you have
    sun falling on the ground anyway the heat is still there no matter what you're doing
    and you know like the if you look at the US power consumption you could put a solar farm
    and I'm not saying that this is a thing that you do practically because but you know in terms of
    the actual energy used by the US it wouldn't even be that much of Arizona like there I've seen
    maps of this it's a shockingly small amount of Arizona could give you the power that it would
    take to power the whole fucking country and you think about also like in Arizona the time that you
    have peak demand is exactly the time that it's the brightest out which means exactly the time
    that you get the most solar and people sit there and they're like oh well you have to what
    have what you do when the sun goes down you have batteries first of all but also when the sun goes
    down you don't have to run the air conditioning as much you don't have to use as much power
    the time when you need the most power the time when they have like the biggest loads when they
    spin up the fucking coal fire of plants is during the hot summer sun sunny times and that's when
    the solar does the best and you know like you think about like they started putting solar on the
    Jimmy Carter's not perfect but solar panels on the fucking White House which Reagan of course took off
    in one of the many ways that Reagan's a piece of shit but you know you put those fucking solar
    panels on every house in Arizona and you don't even need a grid necessarily now the grid is nice
    because it can act as a battery and you can have centralized batteries and things like this so instead of
    having like individuals having to maintain their own systems you can have that for everybody or you
    can have like a small battery at home and then you have like the grid that you know but if you
    would have done this decades ago Arizona would be a net power producer instead of you know like a
    place full of dirty power full of natural gas and full of coal plants still and all this kind of
    shit it's just it's so fucking annoying that we don't do that it's so annoying that you know like
    you look at that greyhound it was like two or three hours to get from Phoenix the flag staff and you
    know not very comfortable and everybody's coughing and it's gross versus again like shit
    constant or TGV kind of thing or the Chinese bullet trains a few hundred kilometers per hour you do
    that math and it's like less than an hour you go from Phoenix to flag staff and of course also you
    have a train in both ends so you're not like you have good public transit and you just look at
    like that that could be there and it's powered by the sun and it could be frequent and it could be
    automated you know like automated cars or thing you can do automated trains or a technology that we've
    had for decades and decades and it's only better now and if you want to make them even better still
    you can easily and we don't have it it's just so fucking annoying the place that we are and this is
    and I guess this is actually I'm going to be wrapping up because you know I'm about an hour seems
    like a good place to break the thing about Maldani that I really just want to tap off here
    is just better things are possible and I'm not again I don't think he's perfect the cop thing
    bothers me you know all this kind of stuff but the faculty one I hope launches a thousand other
    campaigns you know how it starts like making people realize what's possible realized what they
    fucking should have and he's going to be the mayor and he's not going to get everything that he wants
    he's not going to be able to do everything he wants but he's going to fucking try if he even does
    10% of the stuff that he's setting out the deer and people start seeing what you can do what is
    possible what else is possible you know what else can you do and this is this is also why I
    get so fucking incensed with the Democrats because they do shit like you know we're going to do a 5%
    solution we're going to you have the student loan crisis which is trillion's of dollars and we're
    going to help you know a few hundred billion dollars of that in such a small amount that actually
    it gets washed away by interest almost immediately which is fucking beautiful and it's not
    to say that it didn't help people but it doesn't help that many people that much and it could be
    so much fucking better it does not need to be like this and you start seeing the possibilities
    I just hope that people will start understanding how fucked they are and I don't mean an
    permanent way but I mean just in the way that we're like there's no reason to spend hundreds of
    this is one of the reasons I talk about cops all the time we spend hundreds of billions of dollars
    a year on fucking cops in this country on law enforcement for nothing it doesn't make us safer
    they don't even really solve crimes you know like only 5% of what cops do has anything to do with
    violent crimes and most of that is after the fact and most of that doesn't actually help anybody
    and certainly doesn't prevent anything and it's like you're spending all this money you know what
    actually does reduce crime giving people money making people comfortable giving people education
    giving people a safety net giving people better lives that shit makes you safer that shit keeps
    people from doing crime because people don't need the fucking steel people don't need like there's
    there's no point to it at a certain point if everybody is comfortable you're not like why
    why would you do it it's just silly like it's not to say that crime goes away completely
    but it can mostly go away it would be like a weird anomalous thing like this good anyway and I
    don't even want to get into that it's just better things are possible let's do better things let's
    imagine more and again like everything that exists in the world that people have made it never it
    wasn't like handed down by God in that way everything around us is somebody's shitty idea
    or a good idea but you know somebody's idea some confluence of ideas some confluence of stuff
    that people did together we hit the world is what we make it make it better so congratulations again
    Mamdanee and if you're thinking about running and you're not a shithead please do
    and again I don't even want to talk about like beyond electoral politics and all that kind of stuff but
    it is important it does matter I think it's not there are other things that need to be done
    that are probably bigger in the long term but in the short term and it's also one of these things
    where I think you know you have to you have to press all the buttons and hit all the levers that are
    around and that's one of them that we have so anyway with that thank you for listening congrats again
    Zijian and one thing this is the last thing I'm going to say I looked at the transcript that
    I have a lot of generated from my last one and it always fucks up that Zijian Zijian is like
    see you later basically in in Chinese it fucking pisses me off and I can't add my own transcripts
    for some reason like it doesn't it doesn't accept my transcripts when I add them in I'm sure
    it's something that I can work through and figure out but I have like a dozen other things I'm trying to
    do it's not a really big high priority for me to get you know because the transcript is good enough
    but it irritates me it's said bye bye at the end I didn't say fucking bye bye I said Zijian
    so Zijian anyway sorry seriously thank you fuck Tim Cook

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  • Sweetgrass-Online

    A close-up of Sweet grass from the Sanctuary Ecovillage in Grand Forks, BC, Canada

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    Episode Transcript

    Hey there I'm Scott and this is Tangents.

    Well, my mom and sister just left for her by E.

    They're going to Kauai`i and they'll be there for the week.

    So I will have the place to myself for the week.

    I'm going to try to bank up some episodes.

    I don't

    know if I'm going to put them out or if I'll bank them.

    I should I know bank them up

    and push them out slowly over time.

    But the way that I operate I probably will just

    release them on the day of or shortly thereafter either way.

    There should be more coming

    in the nearest future than there have been for a while.

    So got that out of the way.

    I could have

    gone although I have no job, I have no money.

    And the little bit of money that I do have left over

    is going to completely evaporate in about early December mid-December that the current rate.

    And it's kind of something because I have done so much to reduce my burn rate.

    I had the car

    that I couldn't get rid of.

    I had the apartment that I did eventually get rid of, but

    obviously made a place to the live.

    So I'm living with my sister and I rent free.

    Which is complicated,

    but you know I appreciate it very much.

    It's a place to be.

    I definitely definitely

    miss having my own space and being able to control like the temperature and the light and all
    that kind of stuff.

    Just having a place to work and just sit and you know having control of some

    stuff.

    I miss that very much and I would like to have that again soon.

    I don't know.

    I don't want

    to talk too much about that, but it is it has been difficult.

    Let's just say that.

    But it's

    working.

    It's nice spending a lot of time with my mom and her cat is slowly warming up to me,

    which is he has PTSD.

    His name is Snoop and after Snoop Dogg.

    But he's a cute cat that he is

    definitely traumatized and you can see like if I if you stay still he will come to you eventually
    kind of, but he is so skittish and he's so freaked out and any kind of noise or anything.

    Anyway, I don't want to I don't want to talk about that.

    That's not what I'm here to talk about.

    The thing I am interested in saying of courses, I reduced my burn rate so much, so much.

    I'm working

    in the last little bit of, well other than credit card debt, which is massive and then student
    loan debt, which makes the credit card debt look like nothing.

    The credit card debt, the annoying

    thing about it, I'm going to talk a little bit about this, I guess.

    Then I will get to the subject

    at hand.

    But like three years ago, three years ago, I had a company and it seemed like everything

    was going well, a little bit like the summer we had a retreat and we had I think like eight,
    maybe ten employees, I don't even remember, but it felt fucking good.

    If everybody had to

    Sonoma and sit at a nice hotel and got you know, it felt really good.

    It felt like things were

    on the upswing.

    Finally, I was getting paid pretty decently and you know, it seemed like things were

    converging and I will say and I don't blame my business partner.

    I should have been paying

    attention to the numbers and all those kind of stuff.

    But I got sick of doing the business stuff,

    I'm not a finance guy.

    I don't even understand the concept of money.

    I've mentioned that a couple

    times, I think, and I mean that seriously.

    I mean, every time I talk about this, I think it's

    necessary to say.

    I have an undergrad degree in mathematics.

    I have a PhD in physics.

    I understand

    what the concept of money.

    I even have an undergrad minor in anthropology and I could have done

    a major in anthropology.

    If I would have gone another semester, I understand the idea, you have

    taken economics courses, I've taken finance.

    I understand what money and currency is supposed to be.

    But it's not real.

    It's fucking unreal.

    Even the story that people tell about it,

    how like, oh, once upon a time, people used to barter for things.

    The thing is, the bartering was

    inconvenient.

    Instead of trying to do like three layers of bartering to convert from one thing to

    another thing, we just got a currency.

    It's bullshit.

    If you actually go to indigenous populations

    that you look at historic human societies, the way that they actually operated almost entirely
    were gift economies, which is to say, I have extra of something.

    You need it and so I'll give it to

    you.

    And the reason for this, it makes a lot of sense.

    If you have ever known somebody who has like a

    fruit tree, like, you know, somebody who has a great fruit tree, that thing produces so much more
    than one person or even one family can consume.

    If you're a fisher person, you can go out and

    fish.

    And on one hand, this is a little different now because we've got overfishing and all those

    kind of stuff.

    But if you are in sort of a more natural state and you go fishing, it's easy to catch

    enough fish relatively speaking for yourself and your family.

    And the incremental cost of catching

    a lot more and being able to give fish to other people is not that much.

    And so people used to do it

    and the incremental cost of growing a little bit of extra grain or growing a little bit of extra
    whatever the fuck is that that much.

    So it's much easier.

    I mean, you look at like anything.

    If you

    talk to people who grow fucking cucumbers, they are annoyed by how easy they are and how much they
    propagate and how many fucking cucumbers they have.

    And it's like a problem.

    It's like a disease

    because you need to get rid of these fucking things.

    Well, that's how a lot of stuff actually is.

    This is something like we treat the people who grow our food, who harvest the food,

    all of this kind of stuff.

    So fucking horribly.

    And I remember it's been years now since I saw this.

    But I was watching something and I checked this out.

    It's actually true.

    It's not bullshit.

    And basically this thing was saying that if you wanted to double not not like increment by 10% or

    20%.

    But if you wanted to double what the people who are picking lettuce are getting paid,

    all it would cost is to add about one penny per head of lettuce.

    It's not that much.

    You could

    make these jobs much less miserable.

    You could make them actually pay well.

    You could make them

    actually be good jobs that are comfortable to do, that you don't even have like each person
    instead of working them to death.

    You let them do it kind of freely.

    And you don't have to make

    it fucking miserable.

    And you could make a fuckload of lettuce and have plenty for everybody.

    So anyway, they did going back.

    They gift the economy thing.

    Once you start learning about

    this, it gets really irritating because it's like, okay, well that's that whole storyline that
    people tell all bullshit.

    And then you think about economics.

    Like, if you talk to economists,

    you talk to people who do this stuff or, you know, they're actually at PhDs or degrees in the
    stuff.

    They treat it as though they're talking about like something like energy or mass,

    something that is fundamental and real.

    And what really is true about currency and about money as it

    exists today is that this started a long time ago, too.

    A bank would take a certain amount of money,

    you give them a dollar.

    And that bank would use that dollar and lend out $10.

    And that scale is about

    right by the way.

    The bank would lend out a multiple of what they've taken in.

    And of course,

    all the people that are borrowing those $10, they put it in a bank and now the bank has $10.

    And they can lend out $100 because it's $10.

    And it's a fucking fantasy.

    It's completely disconnected

    from any kind of reality.

    All the stuff that, you know, your bank accounts, those are literally

    as real as scores in a video game.

    I mean, and again, I know it sounds like bullshit and you have

    this whole idea that, oh well, if we just gave people money, then it would just drive up the cost of it.

    No, it wouldn't.

    And even if it did, you know, if you just, I mean, if you want to get extreme with

    this, give everybody $100 trillion.

    Now, all of a sudden, all those billionaires, those people with

    hundreds of billions of dollars, inflation basically nuke them.

    They're their net worth has gone

    to a rounding error.

    You know, everybody has way more than they had.

    And they have way more than

    they used to have to.

    But now we have inflation and things kind of renormalize.

    And it's sort of,

    you know, now of course, if you keep running the game as it is, you're going to end up getting
    some kind of like some people when and some people lose.

    And then over time, because you're running

    the same system and you're playing the same fucking game, you're going to end up with some people
    accumulating more and more.

    And you have the same problem.

    It's just delaying it.

    You have to do

    something else.

    You can't, you can't just operate that way.

    But if you did that, it wouldn't hurt

    anything.

    It wouldn't change anything fundamentally.

    It wouldn't, it's not like if I suddenly gave

    everybody a credit card.

    And every credit card that I've given you, it just has $1,000 on it,

    or what, you know, $5,000, whatever it is.

    And it has that much.

    And at the end of the month, it just

    zeroes up.

    Like your credit card, you put, you can put, you can use it, you could not use it.

    It doesn't

    matter.

    But you go out to dinner, you buy groceries, you do whatever with it.

    And I'm not talking about,

    you know, you be I here exactly.

    But you could just give everybody a credit card, like that,

    and zero it out.

    And it would literally not hurt anything.

    In fact, what it would do ultimately

    is massively stimulate the actual economy.

    It would, because all of a sudden, a bunch of small

    businesses can thrive.

    A bunch of businesses like restaurants start doing massive amounts of

    business.

    They start doing really well.

    Any kind of thing that is currently in some kind of

    constraint is no longer.

    All of a sudden, if you want to just work on something and make art,

    for example, or whatever, you could do it.

    You could magically do it.

    And if you have a shitty job

    and that job is pointless and it's like torture, you could just tell your boss to go fuck
    up yourself.

    You could just, I assumed a little bit of sex there.

    But you know, you could tell your

    boss to go fuck themselves.

    And it really wouldn't, like the only thing it would hurt is the people

    who have arranged the system in such a way that they are on top and they get everybody else to work
    for them and they get to be lazy asses.

    Like it's the most frustrating thing, because you have these

    people who have, and I don't mean to pathologize it, but it really is like a disease.

    Like

    there's not enough, it's this insatiable hunger to constantly have more and more and accumulate.

    It's essentially like a form of hoarding and you get these people and they get a hundred billion dollars,

    two hundred billion dollars.

    You have the amount of money that allows you to have your own fucking

    space program.

    You know, you have that much money.

    You have the amount of money that you could

    end up individually by yourself and poverty and hunger and you don't do it.

    That's the amount

    of money these people have.

    And it's not enough.

    They're fucking poor.

    They are the poorest people

    on the planet.

    Our people like Elon Musk and like Bezos and all these fucking assholes,

    they just will never have enough.

    They will never feel like it is enough.

    And they have more

    more of everything than anyone could ever use in a thousand lifetimes.

    It's disgusting.

    It's

    truly disgusting.

    So anyway, I don't want to, I don't want to ramble too much about that, but

    when you, I say, I don't understand the concept of money.

    I genuinely don't.

    If you change

    numbers in a fucking database, it wouldn't hurt anybody.

    It would actually help things.

    And

    because of those numbers in a database, people starve to death.

    People kill each other.

    People

    do all kinds of horrible things and people suffer.

    Like most of the suffering on the planet now

    that is not stuff like, you know, did it get a stuff that can't be stopped? There's stuff that's
    very difficult to stop at least.

    Diseases.

    Like, you, somebody has cancer.

    Maybe we don't have

    the technology to do anything about it.

    Maybe they have some kind of an anatomical issue that

    is very difficult to correct.

    Anything like that.

    Those kinds of things are very difficult to fix.

    But when it's like, you don't have enough food.

    Well, more than enough food rocks on this fucking

    planet, then it would take defeat to everybody.

    Like, everybody who starts that off is a deliberate

    choice.

    It is absolutely violent.

    It is absolutely fucking horrible.

    It is absolutely unnecessary.

    There's zero reason.

    Any human being in this day and age should ever start to death.

    There's

    zero reason.

    Anyone should not have a fucking house.

    And I say a house.

    I mean, I don't think people

    should have a house because dense living is much better generally speaking.

    Now, in I don't mean

    like living on top of each other in this horrible situation.

    And yeah, there are ways to do it

    that are much better.

    Like, you go to Tokyo.

    And I'm not saying Japan is great.

    There are obviously

    lots of problems with any place.

    But you go to Tokyo.

    And this is a place where you have, I think

    the population is like 20 million people.

    I don't remember exactly.

    But you have this huge population

    and it literally feels like a garden in a lot of the places that you are.

    It literally feels

    now it's 14 million people.

    Sorry.

    It's not 20 million people.

    I was exaggerating.

    But so

    it feels like a fucking like walk in the park in a lot of places.

    Now there are places which are kind of

    like a city.

    Anyone who says city, I mean they built up in a lot of buildings and very industrial

    and all this kind of stuff.

    But most of this stuff, you walk around and it's like parks.

    It's like trees

    and little paths and it's awesome.

    And it does not need to be like a fucking nightmare.

    Like you

    could have that many people in that kind of dense population.

    And in doing that because you have

    that density, you could have all these businesses.

    You could have, you know, you want to eat something.

    You could just walk around, not have a plan, not know where you're going to go.

    And you'll

    stumble by a bunch of restaurants.

    You can go to a bakery.

    You can go to a coffee shop.

    Now not every neighborhood has all that stuff.

    But you could find the lot of it.

    And the thing

    that's ridiculous about it also is like, I've wandered around that city, fair bit.

    And you go to

    even the sort of like suburbish areas, you'll find a fucking ramen shop or a soba shop.

    And it will

    be like for five bucks.

    And I'm not even exaggerating on the prices.

    For ridiculous, it'll be like

    five bucks and about the best soba you've ever had.

    If you're coming from the US like I am.

    And that's just like a normal lunch.

    That's not a big deal.

    Now you can, you could certainly go,

    like, I, there are restaurants there where it'll be sushi and it's hundreds of dollars.

    But you could get pretty good food and pretty comfortable situation and live in a

    situation where, and I'm not saying go to Tokyo, please.

    But I am saying, you know, like,

    you can have a place where it's actually nice and livable and you have public transit and all
    those kind of stuff.

    That's how it should fucking be.

    You can have a place where you have

    universal healthcare.

    Like, nobody needs to die because they don't have fucking health insurance

    or because they don't have enough money to pay for healthcare.

    It's ridiculous.

    It's, again,

    just like food.

    It's not a real scarcity.

    The only real scarcity that is there

    at all is that we don't have enough doctors.

    And the reason we don't have enough

    doctors is not because of how enough people who are qualified and capable want to go to medical
    school.

    It's because all of the medical schools deliberately create scarcity.

    They don't want to

    have too many doctors because if you have too many doctors, then the amount of money that a doctor
    can command is not that much.

    It's not like a massively rare profession.

    It's something, and of course

    in doing this because they've done that because they've created this artificial scarcity.

    And yeah,

    it's not like you could just turn this on.

    It just to be clear.

    You would have to open the, you know,

    you grow the programs slowly over time, get more and more people in medical school.

    And then

    the residency programs you have to deal with, you have to fund them somehow.

    There are, there are

    logistical programs.

    It's not like a trivial thing, but you could have suddenly, in five or

    ten years, a hundred times more surgeons and doctors.

    You could have all these people, not only

    having, you know, that many more people that are capable and qualified, they could be working 30
    hours a week and doing a much better job.

    Imagine what you could, like, I understand you're a doctor,

    you're like, oh, I need to make $500,000 a year.

    I need to make $700,000, or whatever the

    fucking, you know, and it's never enough.

    It's not, again, this disease of our culture, of our society.

    And I'm not trying to pathologist it, but it is kind of a disease that you can never be sight,

    satisfaction.

    You can never be satiated.

    If you just did this, you would have so many more doctors,

    anyone who needs medical care could get it.

    And not just from a person who chose a profession that

    they thought was going to pay them well, but from a person who wanted to be a doctor.

    Like there

    are so many people who want to be doctors.

    Their aspiration in life is just to help people just

    to do medicine.

    Like that is a thing.

    There are so many people I know, personally, who,

    like their aspiration was to work in research.

    Like I know a bunch of people who went to my

    fucking, that got PhDs with me, people who, and I don't mean they like, I knew one guy,
    almost said his name, I'm not going to say his name, but I knew one guy who started the program with me,
    and then he washed out.

    Maybe there were other people, he's the only one that I know of

    specifically.

    It wasn't a surprise that he washed out, but he didn't make it through.

    But most of

    the people in my program who started got PhDs and not many of them actually got academic jobs.

    A lot of them wanted to do research, a lot of them wanted to do stuff, but they couldn't do it,

    because there's no funding.

    There's not like a lie, it's frustrating because these are people

    who would have been very good researchers.

    They're not like incompetent people.

    They're not

    people who are incapable, or they're not people who are not hardworking.

    They're not people who

    aren't going to do a good job, or don't want to.

    They're not people who are lazy,

    although, again, being lazy, you should not preclude the ability to have food and shelter
    and medical care and all that kind of stuff.

    But these are people who would actually make massive

    contributions to society, and they can't.

    And I think about this all the time, because

    though, that's physics, right? But there are lots of people who would do that kind of stuff
    for say, drum discovery.

    And drum discovery, it's like one of the things about all of this kind

    of basic research is you don't know which particular line of research is going to lead to something
    to a met a massive discovery, but you do know if you do enough basic research with absolute certainty,
    some of it will strike gold.

    Some of it will actually work out.

    And so I think about this drug

    discovery thing, if you had thousands more tens of thousands more PhD researchers working on
    drug discovery, we would have so many better drugs.

    And I don't mean, you know, like hallucinogens

    and things like that, although I'm probably, but I mean also like antibiotics.

    We'd probably

    have much better antibiotics.

    We'd have other classes of antibiotics that don't exist now.

    But the most important one that I think about a lot is my mom is on blood thinners.

    And prior to being on blood thinners, she used to have, I guess it wasn't aspirin.

    It was

    IVU pro from, but she used to take that every day.

    And her back was actually manageable.

    She could walk

    and be comfortable and not be in pain.

    And she said chronic back pain, since I was, I think

    in like third grade, because she fell and broke her back and was in a hospital bed in the
    house for like six months.

    And since then has had chronic back pain.

    That was a long time ago.

    But she was taking IVU pro for every day.

    And her back pain was actually pretty good.

    It was,

    you know, it was still there.

    But it was manageable.

    It was tolerable.

    And then she got on

    these blood thinners and you can't be on IVU pro for any more.

    So now she's got the pain again.

    But you think about this, there are absolutely no.

    I am certain that there are things that you could

    find drugs that would work.

    Simple, small molecule drugs.

    I don't mean like complicated.

    You

    need 15 things.

    Oh, maybe those kinds of things also would exist.

    But you know, a single small

    molecule drug, there is some chemical that you could take that would help her pain and not conflict
    with those blood thinners.

    There's absolutely also some small molecule you could make and take.

    That would, for example, stop pain in general.

    Like, you know, give you not like an opiate where

    you can tolerate the pain, but just shut off pain, shut off burning, shut off whatever, you know,
    sensation.

    There are drugs like that that are in the space of possibility.

    And I say that

    and obviously like you don't know, you can't prove that something exists.

    I would say the probability

    of it not being the case is roughly, you know, it's that zero or it's that it's not guaranteed
    not to be zero, but it's so close to being zero that it might as well be zero.

    I can't say that it's

    I can't say it absolutely exists, but it almost certainly exists.

    Now it almost certainly exists.

    And if it doesn't exist, there's something else that would work and be able to do about the same

    thing.

    Maybe there's some other, maybe there's some way to treat the stuff that she's got.

    Maybe there's something that you could do that would make her feel better and not just be like a

    chronic sort of drug that you have to be on the rest of your life, but actually could help you.

    Those kinds of things absolutely potentially exist.

    And we're missing out on them.

    There are so many things that just are unnecessarily worse than they have to be because we don't

    have people working on the stuff that they might be working on.

    And it annoys the shit out of me to

    think about it.

    Like I think about, I started when I left ASU, and when I worked at ASU before,

    also, I don't want to get into that originally, but it was frustrating that I was trying to
    build towards something.

    And part of it was because I wanted to be a director, although I didn't

    really want to run stuff, but I kind of wanted to.

    But also partly, I just wanted to build something,

    like a statewide super computing partnership kind of thing.

    And I was trying to get an infrastructure

    grant that tried to do some stuff.

    And then some Jackass, who was fucking incompetent,

    and was already a professor making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.

    Tenured professor,

    asshole, making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.

    He weasled his way in, got to be the

    director, and sailed that fucking thing that I was working at into the ground, which is why I
    quit that job.

    I quit that job because I was fucking miserable in it after he started doing this.

    And I still, I took like nine months, I wound down the stuff I was working on.

    You know,

    it wasn't like an abrupt, I quit.

    But I did that, and then I started thinking about what I wanted

    to work on.

    And I came up with an idea, and I still have this idea, and it's annoying to me,

    because this was like 2013.

    If I was working on this shit from then till now, and when I say

    working on it, I mean, you have been tinkering with it in the background, but if I was actually
    like seriously working on it, I had the resources, and especially team, and all those kind of stuff
    to do it, I would be so far along by now.

    But instead, I spent that time trying to find other ways

    to like make money, trying to find other ways, and I worked on like just the most ridiculous shit
    for people, designing products for people who have terrible ideas, and all of these people that
    have these terrible ideas, it's not like they're not inventors that are like, I have this problem
    that I need to solve.

    This is why they're terrible ideas, by the way.

    They're not people who are

    going like, this thing really fucking bothers me.

    And I'm sure, even if you don't know that

    a bothers other people, it probably does, because if it bothers you, you're not unique, you're not
    a snowflake.

    So if a bothers you, it's bothering a lot of people.

    And you think about it, and you're

    like, I need to fix this.

    That's how you get good ideas, right? These are people who are

    working backwards, and they're like, oh, well, I really badly, you know, and they're all people
    with a lot of money, like a lot of money compared to most people, but not like a lot of money,
    a lot of money, like doctors, they have tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, and they're like
    small millions of dollars, but they want to be like, they want to ten exit, they want to be
    a hundred millionaire, and then the hundred millionaire wants to be the billionaire, and the
    billionaire wants to be the hundred billionaire.

    They're all like, nobody's fucking satisfied in the

    system.

    And these people are looking at that, and I'm like, oh, I just, if I just make up something,

    then I can become super rich, and then I'll be happier.

    I don't know what the story is that

    they're telling themselves, but they come up with these fucking terrible ideas.

    And the problem is,

    of course, I was in a desperate place.

    I needed to work on, or I needed to work on stuff.

    I wanted

    to work, I had plenty of stuff to work on.

    This is the thing that fucking pisses me off as much

    as anything, because I am not a lazy person.

    I'm somebody who's actually quite motivated, and I'm

    able to, I'm quite capable.

    I'm not the be, like, sucking my own dick too much, but I'm actually

    pretty capable of doing a lot of stuff.

    I'm pretty good at some of the stuff that I do.

    I'm not,

    you know, like, I'm actually, I would hire me.

    I might not, because I'd be a pain in the ass.

    I really would, and I'm not saying the, yeah, I'm not saying I'm a bad worker if a bad attitude,

    but I definitely, I have, I will work on stuff if I find it interesting and if I find it,
    like, valuable and meaningful.

    And when it's stuff that is just, you know, like, doing some

    turn-and-crank for a paycheck, I'm much less motivated.

    I'm much less happy about it.

    But,

    yeah, I would still probably hire me for a lot of stuff.

    But that being said,

    I would work on a lot of stuff that would be much more valuable to people.

    I have,

    I have less crappy ideas than these people.

    And part of it is because I am bothered by things,

    and I know how to fix them, and I know what you can do, and I know how you get, I have, like, a
    road map to it, and I can actually do some stuff.

    And it pisses me off that I have been working on

    these fucking ridiculous shit, these ridiculous ideas for people.

    I'm not going to specifically

    go into them, because I, I think the NDAs have probably actually lapsed on most of the stuff already,
    but they're terrible.

    Like, pretty much everything that I've worked on in the past that was for

    somebody else was not a good idea.

    It was not something that was worth putting time or effort into.

    And it was literally just somebody wanted to be, they wanted an invention.

    They wanted to make more

    money.

    They wanted to get like a little bit bigger, nesting, and, you know, they wanted to have a

    second house.

    They wanted to have whatever fucking luxury that they, but whatever it was, that drove

    them to come up with, okay, well, I've got to think of something.

    Here's this terrible idea that I have,

    and they're not going to pay enough to actually develop it.

    This is the other fucking annoying thing

    about this.

    They're not going to pay like the cost to actually like make a product to make something

    that is a consumer product that has all the certifications you need, that has all the stuff that you
    is expensive.

    It's fucking expensive.

    Like companies spend regularly to develop new products,

    millions of dollars, and they'll have a team of people, and it's not just the team of people,
    but it'll be a team of people who've done it over and over and over again.

    They're not people who

    were just like one-offing stuff.

    And so you're coming in, and you're like, I have this

    terrible idea, but I have $10,000.

    Here's $20,000 for you.

    Here's even $100,000, which people don't

    want to part with, but like $100,000 sounds like a lot of money, and it is a lot of money,
    but when you start going into actual product development, it's enough to make like a for a simple
    mechanical or electrical device.

    It's enough to get to like some prototype stuff.

    It's enough to

    maybe make a small pre-production run or something.

    Depending on what it is, you might be able

    to get someplace, but it's probably not going to get you to a volume product.

    It's probably

    not going to get you to something that is actually cheap to manufacture, that is reliable,
    that is durable, that is a quality product.

    And if you look at companies like Apple,

    that make things, they'll spend $10,000,000,000 dollars, billions of dollars working on new product
    development.

    And even then, even then, the thing that comes out will be like the Vision Pro,

    which is, I will say, there are some things about it that are kind of magical, and then there are
    some things about it that are terrible.

    And it's fucking annoying that you can spend that much money

    on this thing that is kind of a not great idea.

    You can feel with that product.

    I can't

    talk about the people that I've developed so far, but I can talk about the Vision Pro.

    And the

    watch, frankly, these are products that I feel like Tim Cook thought that, you know, like,
    Steve, and I have mixed feelings about Steve.

    I'm not saying Steve is a great guy, but

    Steve had some kind of capability.

    He doesn't play the instruments, but he's playing the orchestra.

    I don't think that's a completely bullshit thing.

    I don't want to give him too much credit also,

    but I think that there's something to be said.

    He's actually pretty good at this kind of stuff,

    or was.

    But, you know, you have Tim Cook.

    And Tim Cook is not.

    Tim Cook is not really,

    he's very, as far as I know, as far as I understand, as far as I've heard from people,
    he's extremely good at operations and supply chain.

    And, you know, he was, I don't want to say

    magical at it, but really great at it.

    In terms of great by the metric of making a lot of money,

    having things be efficient and quick in all this kind of stuff.

    He was good at that.

    And he's not

    a product guy.

    He's not a, like, idea guy.

    And so he tried to come up with some shit.

    And he's got

    the watch, which, it's just like, why? It's just, I don't understand the point of this product.

    Like,

    why do you have this product that you spent, again, they probably spent into the billions of
    dollars to develop it.

    I haven't looked at the history, but I would say, over the course of many

    years, certainly over the course of all the versions of it that they've had, they've spent that
    much.

    But even for the initial product development, they probably spent a ridiculous, ridiculous amount

    of money developing that thing.

    And you can tell because you look at all of the, like,

    just the assembly of that thing, which is not great for disassembly or, you know, maintainability
    or, any, anything like that.

    But the assembly of it is a lot of complex tiny pieces that are

    very dense.

    You have circuit boards that are very dense.

    You have ICs that are very dense and

    custom.

    And everything is just like so.

    And you have these mechanical modules that kind of go in

    there and they all click together.

    And it's, it's a pretty, you know, you think about the number

    of teams, not just individual people, but teams that worked on that thing.

    And then don't even,

    don't even get into the fucking software.

    Like, think about how much work went into the software

    and then also, I mean, you're like, the, the, the OLEDs.

    So you've got contract work from other

    companies doing this kind of stuff and figuring out the bezels and figuring out how do you do the
    CNC milling on the glass and how do you, how do you do all this, all of that kind of stuff
    easily billions of dollars, billions of dollars to make that thing.

    And your idea is to make some

    little crappy product.

    And you want to spend a tiny amount of money on it, which, you know,

    and again, I'm pretty good.

    I'm pretty efficient.

    But I can't magically, you know, I'm one guy

    or we had a small team at one point.

    Couldn't magically do like too much.

    And again, these people

    would not want to pay enough money, would not understand.

    And part of that I understand is

    your fault, my fault being that you're not explaining to people like you.

    This is how this is going

    to go.

    This is what you need.

    And this is how far this is going to get you.

    This is how far you have

    to go.

    And never mind also, like, you get people that want to do like medical devices and things like this,

    because a consumer product with a battery in it, just doing that, even if you're using pre-built
    modules, everybody wants to make it really tiny, everyone wants to make it, and if you make it tiny,
    you have to do custom stuff.

    And if you make custom stuff, you have to get like the battery

    certified and tested.

    You have to do, you have to know how to design a battery, so it's not

    going to burst into flames, or just expand and push things apart.

    And, you know, because there are

    a lot of things that can happen to lithium ion batteries that aren't just burning up.

    All

    of burning up is definitely not a thing you want to have to happen.

    But having all that stuff work,

    understanding how to integrate it, understanding, oh, well, you know, like 95% of these batteries
    are going to be within these this volume brandar.

    But some of them, just because of process controls,

    are going to be a little bit bigger.

    And some of them are not going to fit in the module that you

    made.

    Now you're going to either waste them, or you're going to have to design around that,

    or you're going to have to do.

    And you start figuring stuff like this out when you start scaling it up.

    And you think about, like, that's the battery.

    That's the fucking battery.

    And that's going to be

    something that depends on, like, whatever product you're making.

    How much, how much are you trying,

    or how big is the battery? How much are you charging it? How many cycles is it supposed to work for
    how much current draw or power dissipation is there? What is the environment that it's operating at?
    And, you know, you think about, you got that, and then you look, the simplest fucking thing.

    You have a battery.

    You have a simple control board, which has the battery charger on it,

    which has microcontroller, some kind of sensors, or actuators, or whatever.

    And then you have

    the enclosure housing for all that kind of stuff.

    And your options are, you can get pre-built modules

    that are, even if they're dense, they're not going to be, like, this was another thing that annoyed
    me.

    We worked on this project for one group of people.

    And because they wanted, they actually had

    decent budget, but not a great budget.

    And they were people who were coming from a company that

    understands something about, like, what is involved in this kind of stuff? Because of all that
    kind of stuff, the thing that we made was a pretty big thing.

    It was, I was not happy with it.

    But we did considering the fact that we're using off the shelf parts, off the shelf actuators,

    off the shelf, everything, and then you know, making our unboard and enclosures and all that kind of stuff.

    We had it about as small as you could make it with those constraints, but it was still too big.

    It was still kind of foggy.

    It was not great.

    We had to do, like, two part molds for stuff.

    And yeah,

    you just look at that and it's like, it's not great.

    It's annoying.

    It's annoying.

    When you look

    it stuff that is really highly consumer-polish kind of stuff.

    That, like, the amount of time

    and money and effort that goes in to just figuring out the enclosure, or figuring out how things
    get assembled, that figuring out how they get flashed, and how they, like, all of the steps,
    figuring out how you do all the QA on this stuff.

    All that kind of stuff takes a lot of money.

    Building a test chick.

    This is another thing people never want to fucking pay for.

    But designing

    the test systems for your product probably costs as much to make as the product itself that
    if you're going to do it well, especially if you're doing it for volume production,
    it's your essentially designing a second product.

    Now, there are things where people who do this

    they'll, they do it a lot, and so some of it is kind of, you know, just cookie cutter stuff.

    But when you're really, like, if you're building something and you want to make sure,

    you can actuate it mechanically, or do, like, some kind of simulated test, or whatever,
    it is.

    That kind of stuff takes time.

    It takes effort.

    It takes money.

    And nobody wants to pay for it.

    And again, this is all for a product that is probably in most of these cases.

    There were some

    things that I worked on that actually I found kind of interesting, and I thought were good ideas.

    But for the most part, shitty idea, not enough money, and you're not going to be happy with

    whatever we get to.

    And then you're certainly not going to pay, you know, at 10 times more

    than you already gave, to get from there to a final product.

    And you're also not going to pay,

    you know, I mean, just doing the engineering and design work for something is expensive.

    But getting the tooling, if you want to make, like, people aren't like, I want to make this volume

    product.

    I'm going to sum millions of them.

    Okay, when you're making millions of something,

    just getting a fucking tool cut to do injection molded plastic for it.

    Not fucking cheap.

    You

    get a steel tool cut.

    It is expensive.

    And that will, you know, have a certain life to it.

    And also,

    as you shoot more and more parts out of that, especially if you're using, like, glass filled
    nylon or something, that's going to wear, you know, even if you're using just anything,
    thermal cycles, all this kind of stuff is going to wear it down over time.

    It has a finite life.

    And the tolerance is going to get sloppy over time.

    And you want to build stuff and you want to

    figure out, it's like, everything has to fit just together, and everything, it's all hard,
    it's all expensive.

    And nobody wants to pay for it.

    And again, the idea is crappy, and most of

    these cases, because you're not building something to solve a real problem.

    And you look at

    just this, it was so frustrating.

    I spent so much time.

    And to be fair, I figured out how to do

    a lot of stuff pretty cheaply.

    I figured out how to, like, I'm not saying it was a complete waste of

    time and effort, but at the same time, all that time that I spent on those projects, if I would have
    worked on my own shit, I would be done with so many things that are so much cooler by now.

    I would have products out that would be like, I would like to say, pretty high volume products,

    things that people would actually be using and finding useful.

    And even if they weren't,

    you know, they even small volumes for some of these things, it'd be enough that I could just live
    comfortably.

    And which is really fundamentally, this is another, I haven't even gotten to the

    sweet press.

    This is, it's funny.

    I'm 40 minutes into this.

    I haven't even gotten to the thing

    I wanted to talk about, I will, I will get to do it, but I'm gonna, I'm gonna talk a little bit
    more about like venture capital and private equity in this kind of stuff.

    I'm gonna make this

    like the super abbreviated version.

    I will make one of these on PE.

    I'm gonna make it note to myself

    about that right now.

    But because PE is a whole fucking topic of itself.

    And I guess, in some ways,

    I'm glad that I was never able to raise a mass of the amount of money because the VCs will push
    you to do just ridiculous shit and it'll be terrible.

    And, you know, it's different if you have

    enough of a resource to do development.

    Like the stuff that I want to make for the most part,

    it'd be years of development.

    It would be a significant amount of time and effort invested in it.

    And, and, and, and, expense to, to get parts made and, you know, like doing, doing stuff that's not cheap.

    Um, but anyway, getting, getting back to that.

    Um, I, I'm just thinking, I'm gonna, I'm gonna,

    I'm gonna leave that subject for now because it's, it's, it's annoying me just to think about.

    But,

    the amount of stuff that, uh, they're not just looking back at how many things I did
    to, to make shit for people that never ended up converging because they would, again, you know,
    I'm, I'm working for this person who's not gonna pay enough to, to get it into any kind of
    volume production.

    They're making something that nobody's actually going to buy.

    And, you know,

    it's just, like, just that end shit that was a waste.

    And it's frustrating.

    It's very frustrating.

    It's making me sad.

    It's like so much fucking time spent on building shit like that.

    I, I should have been, I should have just been figuring out how to do it myself.

    I, I, you know,

    I don't even know what I could have done.

    I don't know how I could have gone a different path and made that work.

    But what I do know is actually, like, things should just be such that, you know, you can,

    you could just live.

    You could just have a place.

    And I, like, I don't need a fucking mansion.

    I need a kitchen that's decent.

    That, like, extravagant.

    But, you know, like, I can cook there.

    A fridge, a stove, a sink, a place to the sort of chill, a bed, a bedroom.

    And a little place to work.

    Yeah, I could, I'm, I'm in my sister's place right now.

    And I'm in the, I'm in, it's a three-level place.

    The level I'm in, if I had this much space as an apartment, and it was kind of partitioned a little bit,

    I'd actually probably be fine.

    I, it would be nice to have, like, maybe a little bit more, but I could,

    yeah, you have a bedroom, a bathroom, all that stuff, and you could just be comfortable.

    That's, that's the stuff that I want.

    I don't need, I mean, it would be nice to be able to fly.

    I like flying, but also, you know,

    what flying is kind of silly.

    And I, I, I thought a lot about this.

    I don't think that it's a great thing

    for anybody to be doing.

    Even if it was completely, like, you have micro-nuclear reactors or something,

    and flying doesn't have a huge environment, the limping, or whatever it is.

    Even if that was the case,

    and it was safe, which it's not.

    I mean, it's relatively safe, but, you know, flying a small airplane,

    there's a lot of stuff you could, they could go wrong with a small single-engine plane.

    Like, you know, even if, even if it was perfectly safe, even if it was free, even if there's no really

    environmental cost, I don't know that it's a great thing for people to be flying, really,
    not unnecessarily.

    It's nice to have clear skies.

    It really is.

    Anyway, but, you know,

    I'm just saying, like, I would want to travel a little bit, traveling is nice, but,
    there, I don't need, like, massive extravagances.

    I don't need ridiculous luxury stuff.

    I want the stuff that I need to work, the stuff that I need to be comfortable.

    That's kind of it.

    And there's this thing, that this is going to be the end of this part, but there's this idea

    that people in VCE and NPE look at very derisively, and this is what they call the
    air quotes lifestyle business, which is a business that is actually a productive, profitable
    business.

    This is what the people in private equity think is terrible.

    It's a business that is,

    you know, like, paying you a comfortable salary, paying maybe a small team of people,
    a comfortable salary, having, you know, whatever, what it pretty is, it's like a mom and pop shop,
    or a little engineering company, or a little whatever, and, you know, you're actually doing good
    stuff, and you have enough money that you're comfortable, and that people are comfortable.

    That is a lifestyle business, and, you know, the people who are VCEs, who mostly are terrible,

    you know, like a horrible judgment, they don't know what the fuck they're doing.

    A lot of these people,

    you know, VCE is a derisive term, I had to me, and I'm not just sour grapes, I think that there
    is just my opinion of the people that have met in that domain, not fucking grape, but anyway,
    coming back.

    That lifestyle business actually is a fucking good thing.

    It's, you know, like,

    mom and pop shops are a good thing.

    At this idea that you have to have one guy, one guy who's at

    the top of, like, all of the money that was going through a hundred thousand lifestyle businesses,
    and that's all coming into one person.

    Jeff Bezos doesn't need that.

    Think about all of the stores.

    Think about how much nicer it is, to have all those different stores, to have all those, like,

    local grocery stores, to have local specialty shops.

    They, you know, that's something that you should

    put money into.

    We should put resources into, like, Paris puts money into bakeries.

    And it's good.

    It makes it nice if you are in Paris, you can walk around, and there's a fucking Petisserie,

    and a Boulangerie within a couple blocks of wherever the fuck you are.

    And it's probably pretty good.

    It's probably, it's probably actually pretty good.

    It might not be great, but it's not going

    to be terrible.

    And, you know, even if it's not the best, there's going to be another one in a few

    blocks.

    And yeah, it's just, it's, it's a much better place.

    It's a much better way to make things work.

    It's a much better way to live.

    So this gets, anyway, coming finally back to this week grass.

    The thing that, I'm going to give you a little motivation for this, a little explanation of

    what got me to this.

    And I feel like I'm, I don't know if anybody's going to get 47 minutes

    under this thing and actually keep listening.

    But now I'm talking about this week grass.

    I should put chapter markers on it.

    But I need to figure that out.

    I really, I tried putting them

    on one, and it didn't work.

    And then I kind of temporarily, at least, gave up, but I will work on

    chapter markers one day, but probably not today.

    The thing that got that gets me, and this is

    something that I've thought a lot about for a long time.

    But it's not that expensive.

    Like, if you

    want to have a personal website, you can get certainly obviously do like square spaces,
    or something like that, which is not cheap.

    It's, I think, you know, 30 bucks a month or something.

    I don't know how much, I know there are hosting things that are cheaper.

    But, you know, you're

    paying 10, 20, 30 bucks a month.

    And the traffic that you're getting, isn't that really that much?

    It probably doesn't justify it for most people.

    So you're, you're not using that much worth of

    storage or capacity or anything.

    And you could, you could do co-hosting, you could do a lot of stuff.

    But, I'm just saying, there are ways that you could do this under the current circumstances

    that you have your own thing.

    And it's not that expensive.

    It's attainable, attainable to one

    person or a small group.

    And even if you have a decently busy sort of thing, it's tens of bucks

    or a hundred bucks or even two hundred bucks a month.

    That kind of hosting, you could probably pay

    for.

    That kind of hosting, you could kind of manage.

    The problem is, say you make something that's

    really popular.

    And if you make something that's really popular, you get a lot of traffic.

    And if you

    get a lot of traffic, that takes a lot of bandwidth, that takes a lot of resources.

    And as it

    gets more and more popular, the bandwidth requirements, the costs of operating that, go up and
    up and up and up.

    And so as, you try to make a Facebook essentially or a MySpace.

    MySpace is probably

    closer to what I'm thinking about here.

    But anything like that, if you're building a small version

    of it, it's not that big of a deal.

    You can totally do it.

    And you can even like, it's hard

    to build things that are scalable, but it's not that hard.

    It's stuff that is well understood.

    It's stuff that, you know, especially if you have people who are experts at it, you could figure it

    out.

    So you could build stuff that can scale.

    The problem is the cost of its scaling.

    And if you

    start getting to the scale of like a Facebook, that's literally hundreds of millions, billions of
    dollars a year, just in operations.

    Just in the stuff to host that shit is very, very expensive.

    And this means that somehow you have to pay for it.

    And if you're paying for it, well,

    there are a lot of options.

    There are a couple of things you could do.

    One is you get people to pay.

    And the individual, like the the cost of hosting Facebook, per Facebook user or Twitter or whatever,

    not that expensive, you know, it's like low single digit dollars per month.

    If even that,

    order of that.

    So in principle, you could probably get people to pay that.

    But the problem is,

    you've established, you've grown based on doing something for free.

    And there's a thing where people,

    like if they get something for free, and all of a sudden, you start charging for it, they're not too
    excited about it.

    They're not, they're not really happy about that, generally speaking.

    And so you have this issue that people don't really want to pay for it.

    And somehow you have to make

    money.

    And of course, somehow, because you live in this society that we have, you probably want to

    make a lot of money.

    You probably don't want to just have the team that is because you could develop

    something like Facebook with tens of people, hundreds of people, maybe even thousands of people,
    even for global scale.

    You need a lot, like for moderation and things like this.

    You probably need a

    lot of people.

    But to do this software development, to do like just managing stuff and making things

    work, you don't need that many, that many people.

    It's something like that kind of thing is a low fixed

    cost.

    And the operations are a growing cost that scale with the number of users.

    Maybe even scale

    worse than the number of users, because it's not just the number of people, it's the number of
    connections that you have that you have that you have to deal with.

    And so each person you add to

    the network, you're kind of getting some kind of a, at least the quadratic sort of thing if not worse.

    But you can kind of think, like as you get more and more users, it gets more and more expensive.

    And however it does it, whether it's linear or not, it's not great.

    Even if it's logarithmic,

    it's not great.

    But especially if it's not.

    So anyway, it's more and more expensive.

    How do you pay for

    that? But there are a couple of options that people always land on.

    One of them is ads,

    and ads are fucking terrible.

    I think ads are one of the bans of modern society.

    And also,

    I watch a lot of YouTube, and I'm probably, I probably should stop it because I can't fucking
    stand it.

    And I look at the stuff that I watch, the stuff that I want to watch and that I continue to watch,

    I have maybe a dozen people that I follow, like Blondie Hacks, this old Tony,
    trying to think of Blanco-Lario, Blondie Hacks again.

    I came back to her.

    I didn't need to do it twice,

    but you know, she popped in there.

    EEV blog.

    Yeah, there, I can't think of his name, federal,

    the guy who does all of the.

    There are a number of people like this that I watch, and I enjoy

    their stuff, and I find it useful and interesting.

    But I don't want to watch just random shit from random people.

    And most of it's serenotics, she's great.

    Most of it, Anne and Reburn.

    I love her.

    She's great.

    But most of the stuff on here that it's filling it, is just this AI-slop crap.

    Now,

    an audible air quotes AI, I should, you know, I don't like that people call it AI, but never mind that now.

    It's just garbage.

    It's just fucking garbage.

    And it's just like this thing that they keep

    expanding.

    University day, Fraser King.

    He's great.

    I like it.

    But it's just more and more garbage.

    And it's the thing that, you know, and then you watch stuff, and you get your options,

    if you're a consumer, or to pay for the premium, which in principle, I kind of like I paid for premium
    for a long time.

    It's not that much a month.

    I think like half of what you're paying is going to the

    people that are making stuff.

    I wish it was more, but yeah, that half is not bad.

    And I felt good about

    it.

    But then Facebook or Facebook, then YouTube started doing this shit where instead of showing

    me this stuff from the people that I was following, they kept mixing shit in there.

    They did,

    actually, I mean, mixing stuff and wouldn't be so bad, but they're not showing me stuff
    from the people that I'm following.

    Like I had to go to people's pages to see when they put new stuff

    up.

    And this happened for a long time.

    And it got so annoying to me that I stopped paying for

    and also like I lost my job and things got paying for premium became, it went from being like a
    no brainer like we in this lock to like, oh shit, that's a lot of money.

    I don't really want to

    be spending that much amount.

    And so I go back and I get the ads.

    And the ads on there are so

    fucking horrible.

    Like I don't think that they're selling anything.

    I don't think, I really

    increasingly think that modern ads are a scam that are being run against, yeah, it's like layers of
    scam that are being run against the people who are doing the advertisements.

    So there's a agency that's

    taking money, that the people that are making the thing that producing the ads, they're taking money
    from people.

    There are a lot of people like the network, YouTube, whoever.

    They're taking money

    from people.

    They're pushing the stuff out.

    And they don't really give a shit, who sees it?

    I mean, this is one of the things that's striking that like I'll get ads for shit that I'm never
    ever, ever, ever, ever going to buy.

    Or I wouldn't even consider.

    I mean, if I see the ad, I'm not going

    to buy it anyway.

    But even without seeing the ad, it's not a thing that I would consider buying.

    Yeah, it's fucking horrible.

    And I think part of this also is they deliberately, you know,

    in addition to all those scams, they deliberately want to show you stuff that's annoying
    so that you'll get the premium.

    Because the premium, if you look at the recurring revenue,

    the ad revenue per user, Arbu, from those ads, it's actually smaller than what you get from having
    somebody on premium.

    So they want you to be on premium.

    They're incentivized to get you to not see

    the fucking ads, which is probably not a great situation if you're one of the people doing
    the ad, like you're paying them to do ads.

    Probably not great.

    So anyway, they do this.

    And it sucks.

    It's terrible.

    And so your options are, again, ads get people to pay, or I guess you can sell

    user data somehow, or manipulate people for money.

    That's the sorts of things you can do.

    None of them are good.

    None of them are things that I think anyone should be subjected to.

    So the thing that occurs to me, or I'm sure a lot of people have had this realization,

    but something that I've been working on.

    Individually, if you want to have a website,

    most people are not really getting a lot of traffic.

    Most people have a website up and you might,

    you want it to be there.

    You want it to be able to, like somebody goes to it, they can see stuff,

    but they're probably not, you're probably not getting tens of people watching it.

    You're probably

    not getting hundreds of thousands of concurrent users for sure for most things.

    You're not getting that much.

    So you get a lot of excess capacity with your website, even if you're paying for it.

    And then

    you have other people who are putting up stuff like freezer came, and they're getting a lot of
    stuff where it's kind of very expensive.

    And if their thing gets super popular, then you're paying

    a lot more.

    If you're building something that's a Facebook competitor, you're paying an intractable

    amount of money.

    And so the thing that I was thinking and kind of seems to me like an obvious thing

    is that what you should do is build sort of a peer-to-peer network that essentially does the
    stuff that AWS does, but in a way that it's kind of abstracted away from any of these particular
    providers.

    And if you do that, you can get the hosting, both for data and for communications and

    all this kind of stuff.

    And you can share it between people.

    Think about that share it between people.

    And so this idea is basically you build this infrastructure.

    And this infrastructure is such that

    I can have a managed version that I'm running for people.

    Somebody also, if they want, they could

    start a business that's just doing management for these kinds of things.

    It's going to be open-source

    and they could be in the same network.

    Or people, if you want, you can have your own fucking

    thing and you just pay for it.

    You could just host it wherever.

    You could, you know, if you

    went a monkey with it, you could do that.

    And all of these things, you have a couple of problems.

    So you don't want to just host everything.

    I don't think that's a good thing.

    And I don't think

    you, you don't want to platform Nazis.

    You don't want to build the Nazi bar.

    So one of the things that

    I think is very important here is to have a sort of explicit social contract.

    I've had a lot

    about moderation for a long time.

    And I get really annoyed with the way that most people implement it.

    I think the reason that it sucks in most cases is a lot to do with the, basically, people don't

    really, I mean, if this is just my general problem with the way education is today, but education
    has become vocational training.

    And when I say that, I mean, even like PhD level education,

    but especially, if you're just doing undergrad, people go to business school, they never take
    a fucking ethics course.

    They never take a philosophy course.

    They never take an art course.

    They never take art appreciation or anything.

    And so they don't appreciate this stuff.

    And so you

    get people at the same with computer programming.

    They never take a fucking ethics course.

    They're,

    they're going to see us degree.

    Never take it in a fucking ethics course.

    Never have taken

    philosophy of law or justice.

    And so you have a bunch of people with business degrees, these finance

    bros, and tech bros who don't know anything about justice.

    They don't know why it's important

    to have transparency.

    Why it's important to have due process.

    They don't know why it's important

    to actually be able to muster a defense for yourself, or to be able to face your accuser,
    or any of the other things that we just, you know, are just kind of general principles.

    And they also don't understand things like having a social contract.

    And the social contract to me

    is sort of, I don't know, I used to think a lot about this idea of the paradox of tolerance,
    or quote, it's paradox of tolerance.

    And it seems like a thing where it's like, it's kind of hard

    to square.

    There's a reason it's got paradox in the name.

    But the idea is basically that if you

    have a free and open society, then fascists will take advantage of that free and open society.

    And do the things that end up pushing basically what we got today, which is fascism,

    and that ends the freeness and the openness of society.

    And to see you think about it,

    you're like, how do you, how do you square these things? Because I used to, I used to listen to
    the people who told me, well, it's got, it's very important.

    I remember this as a kid, because even

    as a kid, it was like, that seems fucked up to the ACLU is defending Nazi parades and things like this.

    And I hadn't people tell me, like, Scott, you know, Scott, poor, simple, young,

    do-ey-eyed, Scott.

    What you have to understand is that it's very important that we protect the

    freedom of speech for the worst speech, because that's where it starts getting eroded.

    And the problem with this idea, and I actually bought it into it for a while, I was at one point

    briefly, kind of kind of free speech absolutist.

    It thought I really started thinking about it.

    When you think about it in that way, it sort of makes sense, right? This is one of the things where

    the frame that you're operating within, really dictates the, just ideas that are available to you.

    Because if that's the frame that you're working in, it does sound like, yeah, okay, we can't

    we have to protect everybody's freedom of speech, because if you infringe on anyone's, then you're
    opening the door to infringe on everybody's.

    And it sounds actually like it makes sense, right?

    But the problem is, that's the wrong frame.

    And I'm not saying this is the right frame,

    but this is a better frame.

    If you imagine that we have a social contract.

    And that social contract is if you do certain things, if you, you know, it's a contract that

    has like consideration and you give something and you get something.

    So if you participate in society

    and you don't undermine things and you're not attacking people and being horrible, then you get
    freedom of speech.

    And when you start thinking about it in these terms, it's no longer a paradox.

    It's no longer, because the people who are to tell a terrarians, the people who are fascists,

    they are fundamentally violating that social contract.

    And so, if you think about it that way,

    to me, it's quite simple.

    This is a thing that I think needs to be, I could go into that

    more later on.

    But I think, yeah, already do our already an hour.

    And so, I'm going to try to

    close this up pretty soon.

    That sort of social contract and explicit social contract can be a thing

    that you set up in here.

    And you can sit there and go, okay, well, if you agree to the social

    contract and you can set up how you decide that and all of this, there are a couple of ways you
    could do it.

    I've thought a lot about different ways to do it, but one of the easiest ones is just

    I have my resources and everybody kind of has their own resources.

    And you can decide whether or not

    you want to syndicate people.

    And you can do that either by explicitly letting them in or letting them out,

    or you could decide to trust somebody else's judgment for it, or you could have something where
    they kind of agree to it.

    And then you have some kind of a judicial system that determines

    whether or not they're violating it.

    There are lots of different ways you could do it.

    And I think

    it's important to build all of these for some extent and have it sort of set up so that it
    works and people have some options.

    But you have this social contract and if people are in whatever

    way you think is right, satisfying it, you can share your resources with them.

    And like if somebody's

    not shitting in the water, why not let them have some of your extra grapefruit? You got way more
    grapefruit than you need, probably.

    And unless you're maybe somebody who has a restaurant and

    you're just, you need more grapefruit than you have.

    So you need the grapefruit from somebody else,

    but other people have extra grapefruit they can share with you.

    So having this kind of a system,

    I think is a good way to do this.

    And you do this and individually, you could have something where

    individually, like again, the costs of running these big systems per person is not that great.

    And especially, it gets worse because people run big algorithms and they do a bunch of

    ad stuff and they do all kinds of stuff that is very computationally expensive, very storage
    expensive, very network intensive.

    And those kinds of things cost a lot more to run.

    And so

    if you don't do that stuff, which is almost all annoying and horrible, it actually is pretty cheap
    per person to host a lot of stuff and to store a lot of stuff.

    And when you think about that,

    if you imagine that some people who can afford to pay a little bit more for more than they need,
    and people who can't afford to, especially if they just want to have a page that doesn't have
    a lot of traffic, and they're not doing stuff that's horrible, maybe they get pre-hosting.

    And so you kind of have this thing where people are working together and essentially have a gift

    economy and are able to not use too much of a metaphor, or to not steal too much into this,
    but you plant your sweet grass and you're not necessarily the one using it, but you're benefiting
    yourself and everybody else by doing it.

    And because we have this network going together

    and you have this ability to sort of build your own pretty nice, my space-ish page,
    where you control the data, and if you want to, you can just host this yourself.

    You could

    be completely disconnected from everybody else and you have your own thing, or you can participate
    in it, and you share it with people.

    And you could also have something where, like, if you have

    you add stuff to it, it's in a feed, and you imagine that that feed that could be your stuff,
    but you could also say, oh, I like this network from, per this is this page from somebody else,
    I can add that to my thing, and when I add it to my thing, other people can see it in their
    feed, and they can sort of, you know, do stuff with it.

    And as you're doing that,

    you're expanding copies of that stuff.

    You're doing stuff like hosting more of it.

    So the more

    demander is for something, the more popular something is you end up having more resources going into it.

    And the more people look at something, the more copies of it are out there, which means also,

    and this is a massive problem that we have now.

    Instead of having websites that go away,

    that just go dark because people can't pay for them forever, you have copies of stuff out in the
    ether, and those are just preserved.

    And you have this way to, like, if suddenly something from

    20 years ago gets popular, people start looking at it, they start replicating it more, and it
    becomes more represented.

    And if it doesn't get popular, at least there's an archive or two,

    or 10 out there.

    Especially if it's just text, I mean, if it's just text, it takes a, like,

    a lot of text does take up a lot of space.

    Like Wikipedia is a lot of text.

    If you download Wikipedia,

    it is a lot of data.

    But individual pages on Wikipedia, not that much.

    And the amount that you

    individually are generating, not that much.

    As you imagine, like Wikipedia, for example,

    if everybody kind of hosted their own Wikipedia pages, and then every time you go to a Wikipedia page,
    now you have a copy of it that you're hosting for other people, you start thinking about it,
    and that actually, you know, the thing that I originally wanted to do on this, which is annoyingly
    very difficult to do the way the internet is structured, is basically like you imagine
    everybody has their own browser.

    This is the right way to do it to be honest, but you can't

    really do it this way.

    So the waste wheat grass works, at least now, isn't like this.

    The waste wheat

    grass works now is basically the servers are their own sort of thing.

    And those are peer-to-peer,

    and those are doing the hosting and all this kind of stuff.

    But the right way to do it is that

    the people who are using the network, all are hosting it.

    If you open it for your Wikipedia page,

    and now you have a copy of that.

    And if somebody browsers that Wikipedia page, you're serving it,

    and that means you're following his serving stuff when you're using it, and you have this
    network that just becomes more and more powerful as more and more people are using it.

    And if you do

    it that way, incidentally, you could do it essentially for free, because the phone has access
    processing power, it has access to networking.

    And again, it's not like if you're doing massive

    amounts of load on your phone, that's not going to work.

    But if you are serving two times,

    three times the number of pages that you're reading, that's pretty doable.

    And you could do this.

    Again, annoyingly to do this, there are technical reasons why you can't do it just like that.

    What you can't do is kind of like that, and you store the stuff in the phones.

    This is down the

    road, do that, and then you can have reflectors.

    So you have something that is outside of the local

    network, your phone connects to that, and then somebody else connects to your phone via that.

    You can tunnel through this, and you can do, you can make things like this work, but you still need

    stuff outside of NATs, and I don't want to get into the technical details, but you can make
    it work, or you could do something where eventually you have a better network.

    And every device

    has its own IPv6 address, its own way to talk to each other.

    And you just directly talk to them.

    If you could do that and have a direct peer-to-peer network, that would be the right way to do it.

    Because then everybody has their own fucking phone.

    And if you imagine, you're watching a video

    on TikTok, and while you're watching that, you're sharing it to two other people.

    I mean,

    this is basically like a bit torn, kind of idea.

    If you're doing it that way, it just works.

    And it also, if you had something like that, you wouldn't need, in principle, you wouldn't

    even need to have explicit servers.

    Now it's not the most efficient way to do it, it's not

    the greatest way to have an uptime and all this kind of stuff.

    It gets complicated.

    You have

    to figure things out, but you can do a lot with that.

    And you probably wouldn't end up doing

    it if you imagine that you're building the network from scratch.

    This is actually one of

    these things that I think I will talk more about sweet cracks in the future, because I think I'm
    not doing a great justice of how this is going to work.

    But this is a thing that I think I've been

    working on for a while, and I'm getting the point where I will have something pretty soon
    that I'm going to start having people get on.

    You can go to sweetcrust.

    online and see

    something posted there.

    You can also see my page, um, sminord.

    phd, uh, hosted on this stuff already.

    And these are static pages, deliberately static pages, deliberately very low server

    you, or server work, you know, little, I'm getting tired.

    I'm sorry.

    They're very little

    server-load to process them.

    They could just be cashed and, you know, they're pretty easy to

    say.

    It needs things to share.

    Um, so they don't really cost that much per viewer.

    And if you

    imagine, you did this right, and you try to keep mostly static stuff and keep the stuff that
    is live, um, yeah, you have, like, a live direct connection for processing stuff.

    If you do it that way,

    you can make stuff that is very, uh, eight years of word scalable, but it's basically very
    scalable for a very small, uh, monthly cost.

    You can host a lot of shit and have a lot of people

    using it.

    And the more people that are hosting stuff, the more people that are paying for their stuff,

    and especially the more people that are paying more than they need, the more capable the network
    is, the more ability you have.

    And eventually, like the initial, the way that I see this initially,

    you start working on static pages, my space kind of stuff.

    Um, and that my space could have music

    or could have videos.

    But it's sort of, like, you know, you have your own web page, everybody has

    their own web page.

    You can make stuff, and it goes into your feed.

    And that's how it's kind of

    how people use it at first.

    But then you imagine you do the same thing, and you could start doing

    some processing on, on these nodes.

    And inside of these nodes, you can, of course, it's very

    important to have that social contract and have some kind of way of auditing it and way of making
    sure people are not using processing for bad stuff.

    But you can, or stuff that you don't like,

    you know, if you're into using something terrible with it, uh, I guess you could do it,
    but the way that I would see the network is most people don't do that.

    And so you have some

    processing that is in, like, database storage, massive distributed databases and this kind of stuff.

    You could also have streaming.

    Uh, and in fact, streaming could mean like live streams.

    So you have

    massive file storage for, for videos.

    And you could have transcoding of those videos.

    And you can have

    stuff where you're hosting like live direct connections over the internet over a sweet press.

    And you imagine that, you start getting to the point where, you know, it's not just that you

    have this infrastructure that can do a social network, like do a my space or a Facebook or a Twitter,
    but you start having stuff where you could do a YouTube.

    You could do TikTok.

    You could have

    all that kind of stuff that's owned cooperatively by people.

    This is a thing that you know, I should

    say.

    Uh, this is a organization, which, it's, it's currently registered as a California

    public benefit nonprofit.

    And the idea, the co-op, the idea is basically that everyone who uses it

    is an equal member.

    And the governance, still working on it, it's not like fully written down

    and ironed out.

    But the way that I imagine the governance going is basically, there's going to be

    an opt-in certification system.

    So, certification is, uh, essentially, uh, vote by lottery.

    So the way that you pick the people that are running stuff is if you want to, to be running stuff,

    if you want to be in a position where you're doing stuff, you can choose to be in the pool
    and the just randomly by chance gets selected.

    You can also do a lot of stuff that's had

    hawk.

    So like if you see something, it's all open source, um, and MIT license.

    So if you see

    something that's not there that you want to build, you can build it and release it back to,
    do the network.

    You could do a lot.

    I just, I think this is a better way to run things.

    There are a lot of reasons why I like certification.

    This is another thing I need to talk about,

    um, probably make it an episode on it.

    But I keep looking at, like, Gavin Newsom,

    Hen's booty-jage.

    They're just all these fucking assholes.

    Terrible fucking people.

    Even

    even Obama.

    You know, Obama, I used to love.

    I used to think this guy was the fucking shit, right?

    He sounds like a professor.

    He has this tone and cadence.

    He's super cool.

    He looks cool.

    Looks good.

    He looks cool.

    Uh, and, you know, you're just like, yes, yes.

    Uh, you hear that shit.

    You know, like, yeah.

    And I know a lot of people that miss that, but then you realize, oh,

    he's blowing up a fucking wedding.

    You know, he's drowning kids.

    He's, uh, starting the family

    separations and detentions and all this kind of stuff.

    Pretty fucking terrible guy.

    Honestly,

    he's a war criminal.

    Um, and he's also not only a war criminal himself, he's a guy who let

    W and his fucking administration off without consequences.

    He's a war criminal who backed up war criminals.

    So pretty, I'm not a fan.

    Let's just say.

    I'm not a fan of his anymore.

    I used to be.

    And, you know, this is a problem because the people who want to be people who are like

    standing up and they want to be running things are almost exactly the people who should not be
    running shit.

    The people who want to be in charge are the people who should not be in charge of almost any

    organization, almost all of the time.

    Um, but also you get that side of it.

    And then you have this

    other side, which is people's judgment of like who they think is cool and who they think, like what they
    think is interesting.

    What they think is the thing, you know, whether it's Joe Rogan or, um, I mean,

    I don't know, you think about this.

    The people who are talking about a subject.

    If there,

    if there's somebody who knows nothing, but they sound really interesting about it.

    They sound like

    they know stuff or they sound like they're thinking deeply about it.

    Even if they're not,

    people are attracted to that.

    People, if if somebody has riz, if somebody is just like they,

    they seem like a cool guy.

    Um, that's the kind of stuff that tracks for people.

    If somebody,

    and this is, I obviously get bothered by this because I don't want to say, like,
    whatever it is that Trump has for people is something good in any way.

    But whatever it is,

    there are people that really like them.

    And I think it's pathological.

    I think there are a lot

    of problems with it.

    There are people that like them.

    There are people that like Gavin Newsom.

    These are people like I see Gavin Newsom or Trump or Buttigieg or, you know, like most of these

    fucking people.

    I see them and they give me the fucking willies.

    They seem gross.

    They're off putting,

    like physically, I know there's something wrong with this.

    I know like I see a Gavin Newsom talking

    I don't have this for Obama.

    I certainly not, but I see Gavin Newsom.

    And this guy is like,

    you know, how would anyone fall for this? He's like such a fake asshole.

    He's the guy who's on

    one of these commercials where you look at him and you're like, how is a human being that fake?
    How is a human being that just not real? How is a human being this disgusting?
    That as you see that and you're like, why does anyone fall for this shit? I don't understand.

    I do not understand.

    I don't really want to understand either.

    But I think the problem here,

    there, it doesn't even matter how people fall for it.

    Whatever it is,

    whatever that is that people's judgment is that bad.

    The idea also that people keep voting the

    same people.

    Because I know a lot of people that talk about like term moments and all this kind of stuff.

    Term moments would be nice.

    Although it's kind of hard that the people that need the term

    or the people that put the term moments in and the people who need those term limits are also
    the people who are massively disincentivized from putting them in.

    So good luck.

    But term moments are also

    unnecessary.

    Like, you could just, the correct way to vote is by default.

    If you recognize the name

    of somebody, unless you have a really good reason to vote for them.

    Again, that good reason is not,

    oh, I really like, you know, even if it's like a burning, even if it's somebody, you're like,
    I really like burning.

    Just because you recognize the name, unless you have a specific,

    very good reason for voting for them.

    You should vote against them.

    You should vote for somebody else.

    You should absolutely, I mean, I like it.

    Look at this main Nazi guy.

    I don't even want to talk

    too much about this guy, but this is another fucker in Maine who has the Nazi skull tattoo.

    For 20 years, it claims not to have known what it was, although there's documentation that he did.

    But, you know, it, like, and also due to who obviously life's going short was,

    nobody asked him about that for 20 fucking years.

    No, but he, like, I mean, it's just not plausible.

    It's not credible.

    You have this thing.

    It's just ridiculous.

    Like, I, and I understand there are

    people that just get flash, and they don't think that much about it, because it's not that big of a deal.

    But, I think, you know, I think you fucking know.

    Also, same guy, he had, you know, it's not like

    he was some poor kid who the military recruiters got to, and I'm like, you know, I don't,
    you don't have any real options that the military is going to be good for you.

    And then you get

    in, and it turns out to be shitty, and you do one term, one rotation, and then you, you get the
    fucker up.

    Now, this is a guy who got in, and he's a guy who, he's a guy who went the,

    probably, I mean, my brain is starting to decompose right now.

    I need to eat.

    I mean, I'm going to

    close up, but this guy went to private school, expensive private schools are good.

    He could have

    very easily gone to an expensive college.

    I didn't need to go into the military.

    Choose as to

    go into the military.

    Does a tour? Does another tour? Does another tour? Does another tour?

    serves at Abu, serves giant air quotes, at Abu Grib, you know, like, which is, again, not the
    get into the, the W and Obama thing, you know, like, it's, it's more crime-central there.

    And then

    after all of that stuff, goes into fucking blackwater, and is in blackwater not like 20 years ago,
    but I think it was 2018.

    Like, this is not a good guy.

    That's disqualified.

    I'm sorry,

    that's fucking disqualified.

    You look at, I, I mean, did it, I guess they did make one of these,

    they're the last one that I made.

    Was, something like 0.

    00003% there's something like that.

    I don't

    remember the exact number, but it's the fraction of people in the US who get to be in the
    Senate.

    And again, it's like a hundred people out of 342 million people get to be in the Senate.

    And you could go, okay, well, not all of those 342 million people are eligible.

    You have to consider

    the age requirement, and then you have to consider, they have to be narrowed down a little bit,
    still 200 million people, a couple hundred million people could be in the Senate.

    And you're saying

    that one guy, one piece of shit.

    Now, you don't, you can be a little bit fucking selective.

    You

    could be also also, and this one just blows my fucking mind, you can't collect a signature
    in Maine until January.

    You can't collect a fucking signature to get ballot access to run in the

    primary, which is not until June or something, or July.

    I think it was June.

    You can't get in the

    prime.

    You can't get the signatures, and they'll fucking January.

    Pick another guy, pick another

    fucking guy.

    And people talk about, like, oh, no, he's the only one.

    It could only be him.

    Fuck you.

    Fuck you.

    You have a Nazi tattoo.

    Either you didn't know about it, and you didn't

    have any curiosity about it, and didn't care about it until recently.

    I think you cover it up with

    something that I think is, it's hard not to interpret as another dog whistle.

    And if it's not a dog

    whistle, it's one of these things like, you know, like, I don't know.

    I think he's playing in your face.

    I think he's literally laughing at you, going, haha, fuck you.

    I'm going to get a dog whistle.

    And this is the whole point of a dog whistle is that it's plausibly deniable.

    So, you know, he's

    got something that you look at it, and you're like, that's a fucking dog whistle.

    That is a neo-Nazi dog

    whistle.

    So, you went from super overtly Nazi thing.

    And again, also, like, I just got a picture

    about this a little bit more, I'm sorry.

    But this motherfucker, you know, people were like, oh,

    he didn't know he didn't.

    And people asked me, like, how did you know? How did you know, Scott?

    I'm not a, I'm not particularly, it's not my special interest.

    I don't, you know, I'm not a fan of

    Nazis, but, you know, what? I've seen Shembers list.

    I've seen Raiders of the Lost Ark.

    I've seen,

    what is it called? In Gloria's Bastards.

    I've seen that one with Tom Cruise,

    thealkery.

    I've seen all these, you know, I've seen the fucking thing.

    Are we the baddies, right?

    Michelin Webb, are we the baddies? They're literally talking about exactly this tattoo.

    Exactly

    this symbol.

    I've seen, like, it's, it's sort of, of the, maybe it's not as well known as a

    spastica, but it's pretty fucking close.

    It's pretty fucking close.

    I didn't know where I first saw it,

    because I've seen it so many fucking times.

    I know I've seen it in Holocaust museums.

    I know that I've

    seen it in books and things about this kind of stuff.

    I know that I've seen it in old pictures and

    shit.

    Like, it's not a thing that is some obscure symbol that you have to be, like, deeply,

    it's not even, like, a 1919 kind of thing, which incidentally this guy has in his arm.

    19 19th letter of the alphabet means S, and he's got an explanation for it.

    Yeah, and in the explanation,

    if it was, like, just the 1919 tattoo, and you're like, well, it was the year that the thing was founded,
    and you actually look, he dig into the explanation, and it's like, it's not actually the right
    year that the thing was founded, the little suspect, little suspect.

    But, you know, if it was just that,

    then you're like, okay, maybe, but you have that, and then you have the fucking Totencom
    for whatever the fuck it's called, the skull thing, and then you have the thing that he covered
    it up with, which is also really, really, really looking to me, like a dog whistle.

    And this is,

    this is like, okay, let's pretend, let's pretend that it's not a dog whistle.

    Let's pretend that,

    you know, it's just, he wanted to have this thing that happens to be something that is really similar
    to a lot of stuff that white nationalists and Nazis really like and are really interested in
    and that where, as a dog whistle, just happens to be.

    If you're coming from like the Nazi tattoo,

    I think when you're covering it up, and you're trying to run for Senate, when you're covering it up,
    you probably run it by a few people, and you say, like, is the thing that I'm going to get at least,
    like, is it kosher? Is it something that, you know, like, there's no question about, like,
    and you pick something like that.

    You know, it's a ridiculous thing, but to me, that's just the basic,

    basic thing that you do.

    That is like the minimal sort of, as diligence.

    And the fact that he can't

    do that, like the best case scenario, the best interpretation, is it's just an accident that he happened
    to pick another dog whistle, and he's got a dog whistle on his arm, and he takes a dog whistle to
    cover up, is I'm going to be going to call the the skull and the dog whistle.

    It's a fucking

    overt thing.

    No, I mean, the best case scenario is this guy is too incompetent and too careless

    to be a fucking senator.

    Not everybody needs to be a goddamn senator.

    There are things like, if you

    ever have any kind of an Nazi tattoo, I think that this qualifies you.

    Hard stop.

    You're okay,

    Scott, you're going to miss, you're going to get some people who, fuck you, who gives a shit.

    We have

    the ability to be picky.

    We should be picky.

    How do you, you go to, like, states, I looked at this,

    because it was bothering me.

    If you look at the state that has the fewest number of registered

    Democrats, there are still tens of thousands of people who could be a senator.

    And Maine, it's like

    100,000 people, could be a senator, could be a senator, could be a Democratic senator.

    It might

    even even even been 200,000.

    I don't remember the exact number.

    It was at least 100,000.

    I think

    it might be 200,000, but whatever it was, it's a lot of fucking people.

    You could find somebody in that

    group who doesn't have a Nazi tattoo, never had a Nazi tattoo, wasn't a fucking blackwater
    mercenary who, you know, I mean, this is not like me being picky and I have to, it's got to be
    like a supermodel with a PhD and all of this kind of, you know, this is like a minimal fucking shit.

    You know, it's like that I feel like I'm losing my mind that people are making an argument for this.

    And then you got people like fucking Jacob and Jacob and whatever the fuck the thing is defending this shit.

    Fuck you, there are other people, there are other fucking people, take somebody, find somebody,

    it shouldn't be that hard.

    And in fact, you more than anyone are in a position to start a

    fucking recruitment drive.

    And in fact, what you should also do is go mother fucker, we didn't know

    what you should have done some diligence before this.

    This is how you get, by the way,

    deadbeat dead cinema, fucking guy ego, it gets all that anti-centromo money, which I don't even
    want to get into that, but it irritates the shit out of me.

    This guy's a piece of shit and he's

    a senator now and then you have space cinema, who's also a piece of shit, who's a senator now.

    And like you look at the Senate and it's just, and all of this stuff fundamentally comes down to

    people are going by popularity and they're also going by this weird parasoical thing where
    people seem to think there's only one guy who can be a the Senate, which is just so ridiculous.

    And so because of this stuff, you end up with the worst fucking people in the world.

    And you end up with

    people picking the worst fucking people in the world over and over again, even after like their
    Diane Feinstein, and they don't know where the fuck they are.

    Like there, there are videos of her

    when she was not even in her last term, I don't think.

    She didn't know where the fuck she was.

    She didn't know what Europe was.

    She didn't know what was going on.

    And you keep having her be a fucking

    senator and she's not alone.

    There's somebody else now who's about 80 something.

    I can't remember

    her name.

    But she's also very clearly got dementia.

    She got scammed by some guy for, and then

    you do not need these people to be the fucking senators.

    People explicitly should not be

    reelected by default.

    And if they do get reelected, it's like, okay, you did amazing last time.

    You did something fucking fantastic.

    You need to continue it.

    Well, give you one more term,

    and that'll be it.

    But it shouldn't be like you have a career in this seat.

    You shouldn't have,

    nobody should have a career in this seat.

    It should be something also, well, I've got a lot of thoughts

    on this.

    I will get back to it later on.

    But the thing about sweet grass in the way that I want

    this governed is basically people can join or leave at will, first of all.

    You can decide,

    this is the thing about a social contract.

    Like I don't, I didn't sign up to be an American

    citizen.

    I didn't sign up to be a museum person.

    I definitely don't support spending hundreds of

    billions of dollars a year on fucking cops.

    I never, I never agreed to that.

    I never fucking agreed

    to that.

    I don't agree to that.

    I do not consent at all.

    I didn't sign up to give a trillion

    dollars a year or more to the military industrial complex and for building bombs and fighter jets
    and doing all kinds of stuff.

    That's an ecological catastrophe and destabilizing countries all

    over the world.

    Like you look at the number of countries that were some some demigratically elected

    the government was overthrown by a military fascist coup and that coup was sponsored by supported
    by basically a proxy for the CIA for our country for this country.

    It's ridiculous.

    It's fucking

    ridiculous and making the world worse.

    You look right now at all these genocides going on and a lot

    of them probably all of them.

    I think you could probably say pretty safely all of them at some level

    are coming from U.

    S.

    to Germany and from this country.

    I didn't sign up for that.

    I don't support that.

    I don't like the idea.

    I don't want billions and billions of dollars going to blow people up

    in other countries.

    I don't like that.

    I don't consent.

    I don't fucking consent.

    So I think you should be

    able to leave.

    You should be able to my mom and sister just landed in Hawaii.

    I think you should

    be able to.

    So I just said a little hot.

    I actually landed in a quietie.

    I should say.

    I should talk about that a little bit.

    I have very mixed feelings about going there.

    I live

    in Ernawau for a while and I wouldn't do it now probably.

    I guess if there was a local who

    invited me and we were really careful not to fuck things up maybe but I feel like I know enough
    people that don't want howlies like me there.

    I just had a respect I would go.

    And I understand

    it's a really nice place but the problem is it's a nice place and you think about the Hawaiians
    and the locals there.

    They can't live there.

    So many of Hawaiians have been pushed out into

    California and Oregon and Arizona in other places because it's fucking expensive there because
    other people like unfortunately mostly look like me have gone in and they've driven the prices
    up to the point where they just they can't they can't they can't exist there.

    It's fucking horrible.

    And it's just I don't know.

    Anyway, I don't begrudge people from going necessarily but I do

    I think it's complicated and I wish people would at least put more consideration into it and I know
    also like I talked to my mom about this and the thing that she always says is like the people
    the people there are really appreciate well the people there that you're talking to or the ones
    that are working for or their jobs depend on you.

    They probably don't probably would or

    rather be doing something else I would assume but also they're not the people that are they're
    not the native Hawaiians who are getting or are people who have native ancestry who are now
    living in fucking Oregon because they can't afford to live at home.

    They're fucking island

    they can't they can't afford to live there.

    I don't think those people necessarily want you there.

    I don't think they appreciate it.

    I think you know and I think also like even if

    again like it's nice to be someplace like that the people that end up being there are an ecological
    catastrophe they're making things terrible for a lot of people.

    They're like building you know

    tearing stuff down and destroying ancient stuff and just taking over places and making
    places that people used to just go inaccessible taking over beaches and shit.

    It's not good it's not

    good.

    It's just yeah anyway coming back I don't want to talk too much about that because it's annoying

    but coming back the sort of thing this will be the end cap.

    I think the thing to do for running

    stuff again ad hoc at will you can join you can agree or you can leave at will you can
    change the agreement if you don't agree to you like you formally agreed to a term and now you
    thought about it and you don't agree to it anymore or you want to say like ah there's a better way
    you can have people change that and start agreeing to the new one and if you don't agree to the new one
    then you don't get to participate in the network and if you agree to a certain set of terms like
    some of them are mandatory and some of them are nice and the ones that you just said are mandatory
    like for example I'm not going to host a fucking Nazi no Nazis get the the share my resources
    that seems like a fucking no-brainer right so you can have that kind of stuff and that is the
    organization with this sortition some form of sortition that will come from in the next thing
    about sortition the thing that I like about it for governance is especially and I'm not
    specifically talking about sweet grass here but the thing I like about it for like running instead
    of a Senate having like a house and that the house also I'm actually going to talk like for a
    couple more minutes about this and I'm going to end because I do need to eat but the thing that I think
    you should have for governance this is not about my little project here but if you were making a
    country if you're making an organization again you should be able to it should be free to join
    like anyone that wants to can be part of it and if you don't want to be you can leave at any time
    I can't like if you want to no longer be a US citizen it is expensive and hard and takes a long time
    it's not really it's an interesting thing for a country that claims to be free if you want to be a US citizen
    it's really hard and takes a long time now a lot of people are let in and you know it's that
    really exactly freedom in any meaningful way if you are a US citizen you have to agree to a
    bunch of shit that you don't have any voice in it's fucked up it's pretty bad I don't like it
    I don't agree to it I don't like you should be and I don't think things should be that way I really don't
    so you can kind of choose and you can also choose to create like you have a group of people and
    they just want to do something together collectively they can choose to work on it and you could choose
    not to it's you have autonomy I think autonomy is a really important thing it's it's one of
    of the things for me I think about my personal values autonomy is fucking huge the ability to choose
    what you're doing and you know which is not to say you don't hold up like obviously you should
    live up to your agreements you should obviously if you say you're going to do something
    live up to your word and with with exceptions being like you know you said you were going to
    you made a commitment that ends up being terrible maybe then you know but if you're commitment
    there's like I'm going to work on this project and for this long probably do it it's probably
    better to do unless you have an exceptional reason not to but you should have the autonomy to
    the change your mind you should have the autonomy this is the thing when I think about like
    running companies or like hiring people if you're running a company you kind of have
    and you hire somebody you kind of have a gun to their head you really I didn't notice this as
    much I always kind of knew it but I really noticed it in my last job because I had medical
    things with my eyes that needed to be taken care of and my boss was having me do shit that I
    did not like did not want to do you know like it kind of sounds silly but like physically going
    into work having to go in during rush hour having to be in the office for 95 and not having
    that even count as it just like all these things that are standard things in work that people are
    just expected to do you think about it they're all fucked up and the cost of not agreeing to that
    the cost of not wanting to not wanting to do those things the cost of you know going like I
    I don't think this is right I don't think I should be doing this I don't think anybody should be doing
    this is you're not going to have vision I mean I'm not even exaggerating it's like oh you have
    a vision thing you need expensive surgery and you need surgery and aftercare and all this kind
    of stuff for a while you're just not going to get that you're not going to be able to have it you
    oh you don't want to do this stuff that I want you to do in the way that I want you to do it
    okay that's fine you you don't get that have housing you don't get the eat you don't get the
    think about that think about like in terms of autonomy how fucked up that is that that is the
    situation that we have if you decided you don't want to pay taxes because you don't want all your
    money going to cops and the military what happens what do you think happens if you don't pay taxes
    it's that good it's not good you're going to be a deep shit and you know you think about that that's
    not freedom that's not fucking freedom you should be able to go like okay we're together and we're
    working together to help people which is which is really fundamentally the reason that you have
    society and civilization is so that we can collectively help each other it's it's not really that
    complicated we have like we get together as people and there's a lot of stuff that you can do
    individually but it turns out when you're a little baby you need help when you're older you need help
    if you're sick you need help if you can't work you need help if you're somebody who you know like
    maybe something is wrong and you can't physically work or maybe you're just somebody who really
    is interested in working on on other stuff that's probably probably to me not a thing that you should
    I don't know I mean I mean I would I would even go so far as to say because I think this is
    if you or somebody who instead of just play fucking video games all your life and not do anything
    productive and you should be able to have housing and you know food and water and education and
    health care if you want to be somebody who like I think about like for myself if I could do whatever
    the fuck I wanted to do I would just keep going to school I would just keep going and I would study
    different things and I would go to medical school I would become a surgeon and then I go to law school
    and I'd become a lawyer and I would go to art school and yeah and you think about like how you
    can't do that how it's not possible I would learn I would probably become a psychiatrist psychologist
    you know they do a little bit of that for a while and then change does something else
    if if money is no object and I would work on my own projects I would do all kinds of stuff
    I would be extremely like I you know there's this saying like only boring people are boring
    but you think about I don't know to me I don't need stuff to entertain me I don't need to have
    somebody like force me to do work I will do work I will do a lot of work I will work really
    fucking hard I will like on my own love to my own devices I just sit here and like my thing is
    I walk I like the walk I like to have coffee and do you know like some things and then I work
    and I work on lots of stuff and I would just always do that if I had if I had resources I would
    work on more cool stuff if I had more time I work on more cool stuff and some of it might be
    actually valuable and help people some of it might actually be good for people because some
    of the things I motivated to solve some of the problems that I see are things like I see shit
    that my mom struggles with and it's like oh I could actually make something that would help her
    and if it would help her I guarantee it would help a lot of other people and you think about that
    and you think about like how the same spaces you have a bunch of people who are like oh well I
    can make money doing this and they have no interest in doing it well they're just doing it because
    they want to make money and so they make shitty stuff that people buy and then this is one of
    those things might there's so much fucking crap and you think about like people make all these
    products that are just garbage and they make them because they want to make money
    map because they were like oh I needed a pressure cooker that's fucking awesome and so you invent
    the I can't even think of what the thing is called that that pressure cooker that went out of
    business because private equity killed it it's it's it's gonna come to me later as soon as I'm done
    what does but you know this kind of stuff you can't do that instead what you do is you cost
    optimize everything to garbage and you make garbage products so that you can sell a bunch of
    shit that ends up going into a fucking landfill and in the process of making it you pollute and
    do all kinds of stuff and you cut a lot of corners and so you're just making a bunch of crap
    that ruins the environment wherever you are and fucks things up and then ultimately
    doesn't go anywhere doesn't make people happy doesn't you know so it doesn't help people
    they don't even enjoy it it's not like a beautiful object that you can just keep around
    and then it's waste it's waste waste and waste I'm waste and the energy that going into it is
    wasted the amount of time and effort that people spent developing it and manufacturing it and
    transporting it and all this stuff just garbage just fucking garbage and it doesn't need to be that way
    you think about how much waste there is like that and yeah it again like if you want to build
    something that is just garbage that's okay all you shouldn't be building it at sale but you know
    if you want to build stuff that I think is kind of wasteful but it's art that's fine you should
    have the ability to do that but you shouldn't have a million people building garbage because they
    just want to make money to you know it's much better to just have everybody have shelter have food
    be comfortable have a freedom to to get education if a freedom the right to grown the right
    to roam is I personally think essential then and it goes to autonomy but these kinds of things
    are things that we should all have and the right to roam when you think about these if you imagine
    that people have the right to roam one of the things that means is you have good public transportation
    you have cities that are both walkable and highly accessible you have places where you know like
    it's required that if somebody is a wheelchair user they can get around they can get from A to B and
    I know a lot of people that talk about like at some point somebody came up with this idea that somehow
    public transportation is anti-accessibility or is terrible for people who are in some way disabled
    but I think this is a complete bullshit this is something that is like I don't know I think
    it is something that somebody came up with who just doesn't it's like a marketing thing against
    public transit probably somebody from a car company to be honest came up with this shit
    some good so do you think tank there was yeah if you build a walkable accessible city
    with good public transit that is highly usable for people and you build like elevators
    and you build like ways to get on and off the trains that anyone can use it's good for everybody
    it means that if you're a wheelchair user you can get the fuck around much more easily you don't
    have to have a special $100,000 car that works for you if you have CP and you build the city
    that is is made so that somebody with CP can easily navigate and easily get the fuck around
    it's better for you it's not like a it's a disability just a thing and not in the way that like
    oh well you shouldn't have walkable accessible cities with good public transit because
    and also also like people say this is though like okay if you do have a walkable accessible city
    with good public transit and incidentally high speed trains going everywhere and all this kind of
    there's other stuff if you do have that and there's somebody that actually physically cannot use it
    well all of that stuff all the people being offloaded onto those systems with high frequency
    trains and all that kind of stuff that means that there's more room on the road for other people
    it need to be on the road the people who absolutely positively can't use those systems and again
    you could if you cared and you designed it well and you thought about it you could get 99.

    9% of

    people able to use them absolutely it's not a that's not a question so it's a it's a
    it's a volitional intentional choice not to do that but the people that actually absolutely need to
    drive or or something like driving you know have to be driven or whatever it would be easier
    for them if almost everybody is on public transit because then the roads are empty then you can
    park someplace that's close to you then you can do all this other shit it's just it's it's
    such a frustrating thing for me and I it's one of those things also like when you first hear it
    you're sort of taking a back by it and you're not that you're like oh shit am I and I the
    am I the asphalt here no you're not what you haven't done is thought about it and you haven't
    realized oh well actually well actually uh anyway I don't want to I don't want to keep going
    on that but the the certification thing I think is important having a thing where you actually
    have autonomy I think is important having things where you don't like explicitly do not reward
    people who are um you know charismatic but assholes um I think that's important having a system
    also where I think this is again if I was making a government um not only a certification but something
    like and I don't know what exactly the numbers would be but for some reason about a hundred thousand
    people seems to kind of fit in my mind pick at random one person out of a hundred thousand
    and of other people that often you don't force people in here that yeah you have to say okay I'm
    going to do this I'm willing to do it or or you get picked and then you can you could say okay I'm going
    to or no I'll pass and it's an autonomy thing but then you do that and you have if you picked
    one out of a hundred thousand people now you have a massive body and you can do you know legislation
    based on that and then have I I don't I don't know the details of how this would work and all
    this stuff maybe you do proportional representation maybe you do other stuff I feel like you don't
    want parties specifically you probably want like this kind of thing you've got a decent sampling of
    people and of those people maybe you have some way to pick some leadership which I would personally
    also pick by certification and often stuff but you could do you could do like a PM kind of thing
    have like a no confidence about in a way to remove people you have something where like oh you
    need continuity well yeah you need continuity so you have if you get picked to do this by certification
    then you essentially you're there for four years or six years by default and the first three
    you're mentored by somebody and the next three you're mentoring somebody or maybe like two years
    you get mentored two years you practice and then two years you're mentoring you know you can figure it out
    and you could have people who like I don't know I mean if we're going to like really elaborate on
    this I would kind of say like the people that are doing this once you get picked it's like winning
    the lottery for it first off everybody you're guaranteed just by living in society that you're going
    to have healthcare, shelter and food and and not only that but you know like the right to roam
    so free transit and the right to roam also means that you get shelter and food and healthcare
    and all that stuff wherever you go and also you're able to leave and come into the country
    it will and all that kind of stuff I think those are important but then you know if you get picked
    into this group you probably you know we're going to take care of everything for the rest of your
    life but you're also renouncing material possessions you're yeah I think that would probably be
    because what you want to avoid is having something where the people that are in this
    have an incentive to be brived you want to make sure like that that should be it should be a very
    serious thing that doesn't happen or you have some kind of safeguards against it because you have
    such a large population there it helps because it's one thing to bride you know you want to
    bribe enough people out of 435 or out of 100 or the state legislature sizes to do stuff that's
    that's pretty tractable but when you you start getting like tens of thousands of people it
    starts getting to be pretty hard to bribe them that means you can do it but it's very prohibitively
    expensive versus as it is now like it's pretty easy to bribe people and you know you have to think
    about how to do this make it work but I feel like it's I feel like it's like the right way to go
    I really do because you get rid of the problem where you get people selecting for terrible people
    and not selecting based on capacity to do the job but based on charisma and other things that
    have nothing to do with it or actively are against whatever you're trying to do and you also get rid of
    the thing where the people that end up going before these jobs are the worst people and people end up
    and you know I know the idea of a career politician like I like specialty I like specializing in things
    I like I like people who dedicate their lives to something but when you go through this process
    of like getting into the party and we've all in your way in and we've all in your right
    cup and just being there and paying your dues and then oh it's your turn now that this is how you get
    space cinema this is how you get that beat dance cinema this is how you get the original cinema
    incidentally this is how you get Hillary it's her turn this is how you get all this other shit
    and you know like you should be able to say like okay Biden it's it's 1988 and he got drummed out
    and he is going to be blackballed or that that's right I wonder if it's better to come for that
    he's going to be eliminated from contention for ever being in politics again because he he did
    something it was horribly unethical and so you know there are a lot of people we don't need to like
    again like the Nazi tattoo you don't need to be an office if you have an Nazi tattoo you don't
    need to be an office when you cheat on tests you don't need to be an office when you know like if
    you're somebody who is known to have done horrible and ethical things I think you can be
    eliminated from from contention now maybe obviously of course you need due process you need
    you need the ability to muster defense and all of the all the standard theory of justice stuff
    but yeah if you are established to have with reasonable certainty have done certain things and in
    the case of Biden we just know he's done it it's very clearly in evidence that that's it you're
    done if you're Trump you're done you're never never going to fucking run shit and in that it
    should be companies as well you shouldn't be running companies couldn't be in any kind of position
    of power like again Trump can have a nice life you can you know have shelter in food and health
    care and all that kind of stuff should that be running a fucking thing ever should that have
    an accumulation of resources ever and yeah it's it's it's an interesting thing about how
    fucked up things are the people like this the worst people end up in the positions where they
    have the most ability to harm people like of all the people who could be president if you picked
    then I think about this is one of the reasons why I like certification if you pick like you look at
    any the best senator you look at Bernie like and I'm not saying Bernie is the best but yeah
    he's well known you look at what's his name mark mark mark fuck M.

    R.

    K.

    you know why I've got his name I'm terrible with names I can see his face I can almost see his

    name and I can't quite spell it but you have these other guys that are like the relative
    of the good people who again should that be in the office because they've been you know they've
    been there for too fucking long but these people if you picked a random person completely random
    person I would bet that that random person would probably be better and certainly when you start
    looking at trumps like it you know you could pick 99 out of 100 people and they would be better
    than Trump probably 99,99 out of 10,000 probably like 10 million minus one people out of 10
    million people like he is an exception of an exception of an exception of horrible and you could pick
    by chance and the odds that you would pick one person by chance who's that horrible are exceedingly
    slim and then you think about this and you got a bunch of people even if you happen to pick one
    bad person by certification you got so many other people that you're you're going to get better
    people on average it's just statistically improbable especially when you start building a society
    where people are actually studying ethics and starting to really understand and learn things and like
    why we do certain things certain ways um it would just it I think it would be better I don't know
    I could be wrong but I think it's much better way to do things I hope I hope that we start figuring
    shit out too because this is this is not a good or sustainable way of doing stuff I hope that we've
    fucking yeah let's let's get the fuck out of here and not not do it like this anymore I think that
    I think you can kind of see like this is not working the people who are running shit are not
    the people who should be running shit and when I say that I don't just mean the Trumps I mean the
    Democrats I don't like the Republicans are fucking horrible the Democrats are fucking horrible and I'm not
    equating this to I'm not saying like oh both are the same both are terrible in their own different
    ways but both are terrible and again pro wrestling and all this kind of stuff if you if you do this
    certification thing having political parties no longer really makes sense now you can have people
    organizing around certain things you can have like a green piece or something and they can not necessarily
    lobby but they can sort of encourage people to do stuff but you know having stuff where you have
    a Democrat or Republican and you have to do all the politicians stuff and run for office and
    be slick and be all it all that stuff is terrible and it gets the worst people and it gets the
    rewards the people who are really the ones who should last be in the positions that they end up getting
    into so I hope I hope you'll I hope you'll I hope sweet grass we'll get to the point where you
    could try it and maybe like it and maybe maybe share it with some friends especially the hosted
    version if I'm able to like I don't want to make a lot of money with it but I'd like to make enough
    that I could live and become terrible and start getting you a better situation for myself and maybe
    for other people would be nice and so we'll see with that thank you as always such end

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    Episode Transcript

    Hey there, I'm Scott, and this is Tangents.

    It's been at least a week since I did one of these.

    I warned last time, it's gonna be infrequent,

    at least for the foreseeable future,
    just because I'm saying it my mom and sister's place,
    and just getting time to myself and space
    and all of this to have a chance to do this.

    It's a little more challenging now than it has been.

    But still wanted to make one,

    and this one, I'm calling 0.
    00003%.

    And I'm calling it that for a reason, specifically,

    because it is a ridiculously, ridiculously small number.

    And that is basically,

    you know, when you look at the population of the United States,
    340 million people.

    And then you consider, I mean, let's be fair.

    We'll say, okay, the registered voters in the United States,

    there are something like 210 million people.

    And if you wanna limit yourself even further to Democrats,

    49 million people, something like that.

    I'm ballparkier, but basically.

    And the thing that I really want people to understand,

    then I guess you have to consider,
    the constitution does put some constraints
    on who can be president.

    So not just anyone can be president,

    there's an age requirement,
    and you have to be an air quotes natural born citizen.

    When you take all those things into account,

    there are still at the very least tens of millions of people
    in the United States who could be president.

    And when I say it could be president,

    I mean, tens of millions of registered Democrats.

    Like, I'm not even just talking about people in general,

    who, if you look at that,
    it's into the hundreds of millions of people.

    It could be president.

    And yet we're told, time and again,

    and increasingly so, and more ridiculously so,
    that we have to pick this one person.

    And we can't, in any way, undermine that person,

    we can't contradict them, we can't say,
    this is not the best thing about you,
    this is not maybe, maybe you should be better,
    maybe I don't personally like the fact
    that in the 1970s, I'm gonna pick on Biden here
    just because he's done.

    But in the 1970s, dude said,

    you didn't want his kids growing up at a racial jungle, right?
    He got drummed out of the 1988 Democratic primary
    for over the top over plagiarism.

    And he has a very long history of this incidentally.

    It goes back to his undergrad,

    there's a lot of stuff where it looks like
    he plagiarized large passages in things that he turned in,
    in law school, he made claims also about
    where he was in class, like what it standing was.

    He was really like, mid-middling at best,

    but he kind of implied that, you know,
    I got all these degrees and I was way at the head of my class
    and I thought, bunch of fucking bullshit,
    bunch of fucking bullshit.

    And the thing that I think you have to understand

    and I think it's important to really point out
    is just like Trump, this is a old, middle,
    yeah, I'm trying to call him, middle.

    Old mid, white dude, who is racist

    and I understand, you're like, oh, he's not a racist,
    he was, he was the vice president under,
    he was uncle drone, you know, dude's fucking racist.

    To this day, racist, I don't mean that you have to go back

    into the 70s to find his racism, he's fucking racist.

    But never mind that now, he fucked over and needed a hill

    and gave us clearance Thomas, you know.

    He is instrumental, proudly instrumental,

    in passage of the crime bill,
    which oddly enough, just like Harris,
    he made a bunch of his political career,
    a bunch of his bones on putting mostly black men
    arresting them, imprisoning them,
    stripping them of civil rights, stripping them
    of the right to vote.

    And thanks to the 13th of men's little asterisk,

    insulating them, literally fucking insulating them.

    This is genocide Joe, before he was genocide Joe, by the way,

    before he was the nominee in 2020.

    And it's just fucking ridiculous

    that people, like, just decided, you have to vote for him,
    you have to, but before he was the fucking nominee,
    you can't point out how much of a fucking piece of shit
    he is, before he was the fucking nominee.

    And the reason that I'm talking about this now,

    you get, like, fast forward to 20, 20, 40.

    And we didn't have a primary,

    and we should have had a fucking primary.

    Biden himself said that he was gonna be a one-termer,

    should have allowed it, instead,
    he's, like, clenching on the handles of power,
    the reins of power, didn't wanna let go.

    And he only finally let Harris go, after,

    it was so obvious he was going to lose.

    He was, you know, that the polling was not looking good for him.

    He was, at this point, genocide Joe.

    He was nuclear, it was toxic.

    He also spent four years downplaying the pandemic,

    which is still ongoing, pretending, you know, Trump said,
    in his first term, if we just stop testing for it,
    it'll magically go away.

    But he didn't stop testing.

    You know who stopped testing?

    Fucking genocide job, fucking eugenics job.

    Biden thought that his wife, Dr.

    Jill,
    and I say, Dr.
    Cercastically, not because,
    you know, obviously, if a woman has a PhD
    or in her case, a EDD, Dr.
    of Education,
    by all means you have earned the right
    to call yourself Dr.

    And I'm very hesitant in,

    I'm very hesitant in taking that away
    from any person, especially a woman,
    because, you know, there's a lot of misogyny
    is kind of like deeply ingrained in our society,
    just as much as racism and ableism.

    So in that sense, but the problem is,

    when you're speaking in a medical context,
    if you call yourself a fucking doctor,
    people think you're a fucking doctor.

    I mean, I'm not just my speculating on this,

    what'd be goldberg thought that she should be the attorney general,
    or not the attorney general, the surgeon general.

    I'm my eyes are rolling back, sorry.

    But thought that she should be the fucking surgeon general.

    So it's not that it's not confusing.

    It's absolutely confusing that she calls herself doctor.

    And she's sitting there giving a speech,

    I mean, I mean, picking on specific things,
    but this is a pattern.

    Give a speech takes off her mask and she's like,

    doesn't the air just smell sweeter without a mask?
    Which incidentally, again, prior to this,
    I thought that at least some people actually understood
    when you're in a fucking airborne pandemic,
    wearing a respirator, or at least wearing some kind of a face covering,
    but especially wearing a respirator is helpful.

    It's good, it's useful.

    Waring one is an imperfect layer of protection.

    Vaccines, you'll find very few people

    who are more pro-vaccine than I am.

    I've had basically every other than,

    I haven't had the updated Govid one,
    because I can't fucking afford it.

    And I've had flu yet, no, the season.

    Again, because I can't fucking afford it,

    the flu is like 60 bucks, and the COVID one is like,
    almost 200 bucks.

    And yeah, it's a lot of money.

    I don't have health insurance and at the moment,

    I don't have a lot of surplus by what you're meeting really in.

    But I've had pretty much every vaccine

    that I'm eligible for.

    And I would have other ones that I'm not eligible for,

    if I was eligible for it.

    And part of it was, I did some travel.

    I was thinking about going places.

    I mean, I still went places that have endemic things

    that are not great, but I was thinking about going maybe
    to like, sub-Saharan Africa places where there are a lot
    of a lot of the endemic diseases
    that probably would be real wise to be vaccinated against.

    I had yellow fever.

    I had, well, I'm not meant to be able to go through the list,

    but I've had a lot of fucking vaccines.

    And I would take more vaccines are magical.

    They're great, they're fantastic.

    But the thing is vaccines are not magical shields

    that perfectly protect anyone.

    The point of a vaccine way that they work

    is that they are an imperfect layer of protection
    that when you put them in concert with other mitigations,
    which really means comprehensive public health,
    surveillance, testing isolation when you had outbreaks,
    this kind of stuff, you combine all of these things,
    you layer the Swiss cheese,
    and you get pretty good protection.

    You get herd immunity, you get enough people vaccinated,

    you have enough of these other mitigations.

    And instead of things being able to propagate through society,

    they just, there's a lot.

    And that's how you protect everyone.

    That's how you protect all of us by all of us doing stuff.

    And even though they might not work perfectly,

    with all of these layers of Swiss cheese,
    with all of these things together,
    you get enough of them and you basically,
    instead of having one person infecting more than one person,
    so you have an amplification and exponential growth.

    Instead of that, you have exponential decay,

    things puzzle out.

    It's not a complicated thing.

    Like I can explain that stuff and Swiss cheese

    literally to a kindergarten, probably a preschool,
    but certainly a kindergarten,
    and certainly somebody with the most basic bit of math.

    And yet, these fucking people sat there and acted like,

    vaccine, they're get vaccinated.

    Now you can take off your fucking mask.

    We don't have to actually do anything else.

    We can stop surveillance, we can fuck with the maps.

    This is another thing that he did that I fucking hate.

    Fucked with the maps, changed the,

    and this sounds like conspiracy theory stuff I understand.

    Although I can treat pictures of it.

    I have another episode on it,

    I'm not going to go into depth on it,
    but he changed the coloring on maps,
    or rather his CDC director,
    but basically, his best.

    Change the coloring on maps, change the metrics

    to make things look better.

    And then really stopped testing and stopped reporting

    and shut down a lot of the mitigations that we did have.

    And this kind of stuff got us to the point

    where basically people had this idea,
    you get vaccinated now, you're not going to get sick.

    But that turns out to be bullshit.

    And when you help people something like that,

    that turns out to be bullshit, and then we knew was bullshit,
    what ends up happening is people now
    start looking at all vaccines, including those vaccines,
    and thinking, well, those vaccines don't actually work.

    Because they don't, they don't work.

    Nothing works the way that they were pretending that they did.

    The only thing that would work as they're pretending vaccines

    did is basically if you were wearing
    like a full-on BSL4 suit, you know,
    you're wearing a proper fucking respirator,
    you know, separate air supply, and just an impermeable suit,
    like, you know, like outbreak kind of suit.

    Other than that, nothing is perfect.

    And when you tell people, you have this perfect thing,

    people say, oh, you know, John got sick.

    He was vaccinated, he said, so that's it.

    I guess vaccines don't work.

    I guess all vaccine, and this fed in,

    do the already growing anti-vex sentiment,
    fed into the anti-vex relationship.

    And it got us to the point where now we have things

    like the fucking measles coming back.

    We have things like, we're losing herd immunity.

    We're losing, you know, and it's just physically horrible.

    I don't want to get deeply into that.

    This is not what I want to talk about this episode,

    but that's, it's wild how bad it is.

    And again, we were told, head to vote for him.

    And then he finally thought that he was going to lose.

    And even when he saw he was going to lose,

    didn't want to withdraw.

    And it took Nancy fucking Pelosi,

    who is not a person that I'm a fan of,
    and I would not give her much credit
    for anything other than, I mean, she's good at manipulating stuff
    and she's good at, she's definitely technically good
    at being the speaker of the house,
    the majority leader of all of this kind of stuff.

    I'll give her that, but I don't like her.

    I'm not a fan of hers.

    I don't think she's a good person.

    She saw that Biden was going to lose.

    She saw how much he saw.

    And she pushed him out.

    And then, you know, unfortunately,

    he finally did this.

    And he finally threw Harris over the glass cliff

    at the last minute in a time where she wasn't, you know,
    and I will say, like, I know there are a lot of people
    who say, oh, we could have, she couldn't possibly win
    because she didn't have enough time.

    She had plenty of time.

    She had plenty of time.

    He did do this when he saw that he was going to lose

    and it was, you know, she was against the odds,
    but she could have easily won.

    The problem is she sat there and we're told, again,

    with no fucking primary, you have to vote for her.

    You can't criticize her for anything.

    Meanwhile, I'm watching kids get burned alive

    in front of this screaming mother.

    I'm watching, you know, like a little girl's body

    blown up and dangling from a fucking wall.

    And I'm hearing her talking about joy, how she's feeling joy,

    and I'm speaking, and people going into the Democratic
    convention, walking past people who are reading the names
    of kids who've been murdered by bombs and bullets
    from our fucking country, defended by our country
    and our ambassadors to the UN, blocking vetoing resolutions.

    And people are just walking by and laughing

    and sticking their fingers in their ears and going,
    la, la, la, la, la, yeah.

    That stuff is seared into my mind

    and it fucking has ruined your party for me.

    I mean, I don't think there's any recovering, honestly,

    for me, for that.

    I would, I'm not, I can't imagine ever voting for a Republican,

    but I could imagine the Republican party getting redeemed
    more easily in my mind than the Democrats.

    And I'm not saying that because I think that the Republicans

    are going to be redeemable or get redeemed,
    I'm just saying that that's how fucking far gone
    the domestic rats are for me.

    That's how, I'm just, I'm done.

    I'm fucking done with your party.

    And this was before this reason thing,

    which is what I want to talk about today,
    which is, yeah, it, like it's before I get to this,
    but I just wanted to say like the US population,
    the number of people who could be president, it's so large.

    It's not like there's one person

    who's just the anointed by God individual
    who has to be the candidate.

    You have so many fucking people to select from.

    The primary is supposed to be a time

    where you weed out shitty people
    and where you find the best people
    and where you test ideas.

    And also, I mean, as we saw in like 2020,

    you have people who kind of push each other a little bit.

    You have, you know, it wasn't just that Bernie was pushing

    for a form of universal healthcare,
    which incidentally I think wasn't, you know,
    given my drillers, we would be working towards
    the National Health Service, you know, actual like,
    not the current one, but what it was originally,
    where you actually have university medical school covered,
    you have things like, we've, we actually have,
    you know, doctors paid for by the state,
    medical, you know, it's not just medical insurance.

    It's the providers are paid for.

    Yeah, and which is not to say you can't have

    extra insurance on top of that, but everyone gets that.

    Everyone gets good health care.

    And also, well, if I was doing that,

    medical school is massively expanded.

    Probably do some stuff where you have,

    we have this problem.

    My sister is a doctor, she does a lot of lobbying for this.

    But there's a problem with like nurse practitioners

    and nurse anesthetists trying to push into anesthesiologist roles.

    And what I would do, instead of just fighting them,

    is take these people and send them to fucking medical school.

    Send them to, you know, maybe make an accelerated program,

    but have them get a medical doctorate,
    have them go to some kind of residency,
    expand the residency programs,
    and then get them to be actually doctors.

    And then you don't have the situation where doctors

    are too expensive and rare.

    And so they have the need that, you know,

    the private equity who are doing healthcare
    and only care about money.

    End up hiring people who are not qualified

    and who are going to get people killed.

    You don't do that.

    So the thing that,

    the thing that, sorry, I just got a message,
    I got distracted.

    The thing that I wanted to actually talk about today,

    now that I'm 17 minutes in, this is a chronic problem.

    I have, if you're just catching this now,

    understand this is who I am,
    this is where I come from, but if you understand
    where I, I got another message and, you know,
    who did my, I need to turn off messages
    when I record these, or I should go back,
    but I'm not going to go back because,
    yeah, there's only forward.

    Seriously though, the thing I wanted to talk about today

    is this motherfucking asphalt candidate,
    and I can't, I use the term candidate
    incidentally very loosely,
    because I want to say he's going for Senate against
    the Collins and Maine, and she's, she's fucking terrible.

    She's one of these people,

    like in some, in some ways,
    I would say that Collins is actually worse than Mitch.

    Not that Mitch is, obviously also Mitch

    is kind of well past his prime, but Mitch is obviously,
    like ontologically evil, just terrible person.

    But she, Collins, sits there and pretends to be kind of okay,

    and just consistently does the Lucy
    in the football thing, looks like she's
    going to make the right call, looks like she's
    going to go against her party,
    and then she does, at the last minute,
    you know, like pulls it out and doesn't do it.

    He's terrible, she's fucking horrible.

    She doesn't need to be replaced,

    have to, absolutely.

    The next thing that I wanted to talk about though is,

    there's this candidate there,
    and again, getting to this candidate thing,
    is he actually the candidate?
    Well, no, because in order to, like first off,
    their actual primary election in Maine is,
    I think, the second of June.

    So that's a little ways away.

    As I'm recording this, it's predated,

    24th of October.

    It's the second of June, I think.

    I'm trying to see if, yeah,

    I'm just confirming that I'm reading a right thing.

    Second of June, so more than six months away,

    and they can't start collecting signatures,
    just to get ballot access for that primary
    until the first of January, 2026.

    Again, it is October, 2025 right now.

    There's November, there's December,

    there's two months before you can even start
    collecting signatures just to get ballot access.

    This guy has raised a lot of money.

    He's got a name for himself,

    which also incidentally fucking annoys me,
    because he is, I'm not even gonna get to the next part yet,
    but I want to say he is a guy who decided
    after 9-11 to join the US military.

    I have friends who are veterans,

    I'm not trying to say like everybody who's a veteran,
    is a fucking horrible person.

    But I am saying, going out of your way

    to join the military and murder fucking brown people,
    it's pretty bad.

    And the people that I know who are veterans,

    they went in, they've got suckered in by a recruiter
    when they were like 18 or something.

    Didn't see a lot of paths forward.

    Took that, got in, did their time, got the fuck out,

    and they regretted it, and they regretted it ever since,
    and they've tried to make up for it
    and they've talked to the people about,
    like how this is not a good thing.

    And how you're mortgaging your body for this

    and all of this other stuff.

    But this guy got in there,

    and then he became a fucking mercenary for,
    you stayed longer than he had to,
    became a mercenary for fucking black water,
    which, that could be, that just is fucking disqualifying.

    I don't care about anything else.

    I'm not ever gonna vote,

    I probably won't vote for a Democrat again.

    I don't know.

    I'm not completely rolling it up,

    it's hard to imagine,
    but I'm definitely not gonna vote for somebody
    who is a veteran.

    I'm definitely not gonna vote for somebody,

    unless they've been a long time repentant.

    Like I have a friend, Viven,

    I'm not to pick out people in particular,
    but I have a friend, and he's a veteran,
    but he went through, and he's like,
    this is fucked up,
    he's been working in the right direction.

    I actually have a bunch of friends now

    that I almost regretful that I mentioned his name.

    But I have a bunch of other friends that are veterans,

    and they're very vocal about it,
    and they're very much work on making things better.

    This guy in Maine,

    you know, all his terrible stuff, all his horrible stuff.

    And then you think about the thing

    that came up recently, the reason I'm talking about him
    is he had a tattoo.

    And I have tattoos, there's nothing wrong with having tattoos.

    He got a tattoo, and some people are like,

    oh, it's just a skull in crossbones.

    No, it's a fucking, I'm gonna fuck up the name,

    but I think it's called the Totencom.

    And this is basically, literally just means

    like skull and crossbones in German,
    but what it actually means, if you go through,
    is, and the particular one that he had,
    is a Nazi logo.

    And, you know, is it obvious not to logo?

    It's something that I have associated a long time ago,
    like I don't remember when I first recognized it or first saw it,
    but it's one of those things like asphastica,
    where I've just known, as long as I can remember,
    that was a Nazi symbol, and again,
    it's so ingrained in associated with Nazis
    that I don't remember when I first learned about that.

    He had this, and he had it for like 20 years.

    And the dude is like in his 40s now.

    He's not like a 28-year-old guy.

    He's in his fucking 40s.

    He's had this thing for 20 years,

    and certainly, it is just beyond him plausible,
    that he didn't know what it was when he got it.

    The claim is that it was flash, and they just got,

    I find it extremely, extremely unlikely.

    Especially the guy, you know, he was a shit poster.

    He was probably on the chance, like four-chand kind of stuff.

    I would bet he knew when he got it.

    I would bet he thought it was Ig in cool,

    and all those kind of stuff.

    Whether he's an actual overt Nazi or not,

    which I find dubious, I think, I would not rule it up.

    I don't know that he's not a neo-na Nazi.

    Yeah, I find it very,

    is at least neo-na Nazi adjacent,
    that's the best case scenario.

    It'd be very best interpretation of all of this,

    is like he just didn't know, and he was so in curious.

    He had it for fucking 20 years,

    and never did anything about it.

    Nobody ever told him about it for 20 years, really?

    Nobody ever said, like, you know, dude,
    maybe that's like it.

    No, I just don't buy it.

    I don't fucking buy it.

    And the only time he finally, like he finally covered it up.

    He covered it up with stuff that's also,

    I'm not like, there's certain dog whistle stuff.

    I think I made one of these on dog whistles

    if I haven't, I'll have to make one.

    But there are dog whistles,

    these are things that look fairly innocuous,
    but to the people in the people that you're targeting,
    they say something.

    And they're really nice, big, well nice,

    and a horrible way for people in this area,
    because they let you do stuff that is plausibly denialable,
    and that even kind of goes over most people's heads.

    I think a lot of people know, like 88 is the 8th letter

    of the US or the alphabet, which is NH.

    So 88, H, H, what do you think H, H stands for

    in the context of Nazis?
    Yeah, so they use that.

    They have the 19th letter of, I think it's the 19th.

    Yeah, the 19th letter of the alphabet is an S.

    And so you have 19 19, which incidentally he also has a tattoo,

    that says 19 19, the claim is that it's something else
    that's completely innocuous.

    But to me, I'd say you have one overly Nazi tattoo.

    And then you have another one that's at least

    due to some suspect.

    And there are a lot of people with a lot of tattoos.

    I know people covered in tattoos.

    They don't have anything that's even adjacent to this.

    I find it like you've exhausted your benefit of a doubt

    with the first one.

    And so anyway, I saw people claiming,

    oh, they didn't know, they didn't know.

    Well, he did get it covered up, again,

    with, this is the thing I wanted to say.

    I don't get to the thing I was starting to say.

    You got it covered up, with something that is also

    kind of a dog whistle, with some stuff that,
    it's not necessarily, like it's not overtly,
    it's not like the level of 88 or 1919,
    but it's on the cost of it.

    It's stuff where you look at it and you're kind of like,

    this is pretty, pretty sauce.

    This is pretty like, especially given the context,

    I don't know that it's better.

    He did that after there was this massive outcry,

    after 20 years of having this thing.

    And it's like, oh, well, I've covered it up, so it's fine.

    It's not fucking fine, it's not fucking fine.

    And it just irritates the shit out of me,

    that in the state of Maine,
    and I want to see if I've got these things here, yeah,
    there are, I think, 1.
    4 million people in Maine,
    out of those, there are something like,
    370,000 registered Democrats,
    and something like two thirds of them
    are over the age, I think 30 is the requirement
    in the constitution for being a senator.

    So something like two thirds of them

    are eligible to be senators.

    That means you've got easily into the hundreds of thousands

    of people in Maine, who could be a fucking senator,
    and who could be a Democratic senator.

    And you're picking this one guy, this one guy,

    and this one is actually, I think, 0.
    003% of the population
    or something like that, I don't remember the exact number.

    But it's of that order, maybe even an order of magnitude less

    than that.

    You're acting like this one guy is the only fucking guy

    that could possibly be Collins,
    the only guy who you could possibly have is your nominee.

    Again, they can't even collect a single signature

    to get ballot access to run in the primary
    until January, two months from now.

    It's ridiculous, it's fucking ridiculous.

    And then you put this in the context of,

    there are Democrats who, you know,
    they have this whole vote blue no matter who thing.

    There are Democrats who will not vote for Mombani,

    who have been speaking out against him.

    He is the duly elected Democratic nominee in New York City.

    He is the guy who is on the ballot as a mayoral candidate.

    He's not a guy who is even in the primary.

    He's certainly not a guy who hasn't even

    collected a fucking signature.

    He's the candidate.

    If people who are sitting there saying,

    like, oh, he's not really a Democrat,
    we're not going to vote for him.

    Vote for this sex pest guy who got a lot of old people killed

    and didn't, it just is a horrible person who should have,
    honestly, should have just been flushed out into the ocean
    and never heard from again, along with so many other people.

    And he's running against this guy.

    It's ridiculous.

    And he got Democrats like anti this guy,

    again, who is the nominee.

    And the same people, the same fucking people

    are sitting there falling over themselves
    to talk about how important it is
    that we continue to support this guy and how you know,
    everybody has some youthful indiscretions
    and oh, maybe he didn't know about the Nazi tattoo
    and the significance of all this stuff.

    And he's like fucking bullshit, fucking bullshit.

    And again, again, again, even if it was true,

    even if he didn't know, which again, I don't buy,
    even if he didn't have it on himself or fucking decades
    and didn't think to do anything about it for decades,
    which again, I don't buy, even if all of that stuff,
    you completely ignore that.

    The blackwater thing, you're done, you're fucking done.

    And if you worked on, if you were a blackwater contractor

    20 years ago and you spent the time since then talking
    about how horrible blackwater is, maybe we could talk.

    I still think, again, you have hundreds of thousands

    of people who are eligible, we have the ability,
    we have some room, we have some capacity,
    the pick somebody who's not problematic,
    give some capacity, the pick somebody who's not
    fucking terrible.

    And you're gonna do this.

    And then also, like I saw somebody say,

    we have a socialist that has a Nazi or a suspect
    of a Nazi tattoo and so we're gonna flush them out.

    No, he's not a fucking socialist.

    He's not a, it's kind of weird

    actually how people are inferring
    that he's a democratic socialist.

    And again, I'm significantly left of DSA,

    I'm not a huge fan of DSA,
    but it's just ridiculous that people are calling him
    to this.

    Now he did say, I guess in a deleted Reddit post

    that he was a communist, which I know for some people
    sounds bad, to me that would actually be an advantage,
    although the Nazi thing and the blackwater thing
    completely ruined it, I think he was an edgy guy,
    like an edgy lord kind of guy, and he just said shit,
    which includes like getting a Nazi tattoo,
    which includes saying you're a communist.

    I don't think he ever actually said all cops are bastards,

    although they are, but he definitely said,
    like cops are bastards, all of them or something like this,
    something like that, again, deleted.

    Again, another thing that I would like,

    but he's disabouted that.

    He's since then said, he's not a communist,

    he's not a bunch of articles you can easily find,
    said he's not a socialist, that he's not a communist.

    So, let's be clear about who he is.

    He's a fucking blackwater contractor, military guy,

    who had the judgment that thought, you know, like,
    oh, I'm gonna get a Nazi tattoo,
    I'm gonna have it for 20 years.

    That's the guy, that's your fucking guy.

    This is the guy that you have to have to have.

    You can't have somebody else.

    There are other people by the way running in that election.

    Plenty of people could win, plenty of people

    who are better than Collins,
    they just whole idea that you have to pick people,
    this is, I was spoken that length about too,
    but this whole idea that you have to pick people
    who are just intrinsically terrible,
    you have to pick people who are Nazi adjacent,
    you have to pick people who are, like, going back to Harris.

    I'm trying to deliberately not to pick too much

    on her, I'd much rather pick on mid-white dudes,
    but, yeah, to pick on Harris a little bit.

    She ran as, maybe not openly transphobic,

    but she definitely said, you know, I'll follow the law,
    given the fact that she's an attorney
    who has taken, I'm sure, legal ethics
    and a bunch of other things, and there was that,
    just because the thing is legal,
    does not mean it's ethical, and not the same thing.

    But following the law, in the case of states

    where they have anti-trans laws,
    means you're following anti-trans laws.

    That makes you anti-trans.

    At least, tacitly, she was pretty overtly anti-immigrant.

    This is another thing that actually fucking pissed me off.

    I think it was, it was either yesterday

    or maybe it was today and pretty sure it was yesterday, though.

    They came popular today and they came down today.

    Bernie fucking Sanders, who, again, like,

    I, Bernie got me into politics, got me to do a lot
    of door knocking and hauling and messaging
    and all those kind of stuff, I think he's done.

    I've lost the things that I liked about him, I kind of lost.

    But Bernie fucking Sanders said, Trump is better

    at defending the border and that we need strong borders
    and I'll ask you, fuck you, fuck you, I need it's just wild.

    Borders are arbitrary lines drawn by people,

    bars on the earth.

    I flew down by the Mexican border once

    and took some pictures or my friend,
    I didn't take the pictures.

    My friend who I was flying took the pictures.

    And you just see this line going across the desert.

    And there's nothing that makes that line there.

    Anything, you know, like the belongs there,

    it's just people decided to put this arbitrary fucking line there.

    And that line determines, you know, like,

    what side of it you're born on determines
    a lot of shit about your life,
    it determines what rights you have,
    it determines what you can do,
    where you can work, all kinds of shit like this.

    It's ridiculous.

    And then I see people, like, this is one of these things

    very much like this idea that when you have a felony,
    conviction you should be disenfranchised,
    which is completely ridiculous and obscene,
    that you should never ever give the state a legal way
    to disenfranchise people,
    because it gives people, it gives the state
    an incentive to disenfranchise certain people, right?
    It's an obvious thing.

    There should be, whether you're convicted of a felony or not,

    you should be allowed to vote in jail and in prison.

    Remember, jail also is for people

    who probably haven't been convicted,
    there are people who have been charged,
    but they're being held, not necessarily convicted,
    and then prison would be for people who have been convicted
    of something, but there should be polls in prison.

    You should never be disenfranchised.

    You should be able to vote.

    You should also, your counted in the census

    in the areas where the prisons are,
    you should be able to vote there.

    You should absolutely be able to.

    You should have that right.

    But people will defend this idea of disenfranchising people,

    as though it was a thing that was natural and makes sense.

    People defend this idea of like,

    whoa, let's not get crazy here.

    I'm sorry for the ableless language.

    It's English fucking sucks with this,

    and I'm working on it, but it's very hard to avoid.

    But let's not get wild and ridiculous.

    Let's, like borders where you totally need.

    No, you know, you don't fucking need borders.

    And maybe you have borders in some nominal sense,

    but I can go to fucking, I can work in California,
    I can work at Arizona, I can work in Oregon,
    there are borders between those places,
    but I don't need a fucking passport
    to go from one to the next.

    I don't need the papers to work in one

    when I'm from the other.

    You could just do that.

    You could easily just do that.

    If, you know, I'm currently working

    on getting Spanish citizenship, and if I do,
    I could live and work not only in Spain,
    but in France, or in Belgium, or any place in the EU,
    you go to Italy, you could, that's how it should fucking be.

    It should be like that for basically the entire world.

    You should certainly be able to go,

    you're born in the US, you should be able to work in Mexico,
    you should be able to work in Cuba,
    you should be able to work in Australia,
    or in New Zealand, or Japan,
    and it should be reciprocal,
    like people from those countries can just come over.

    And, yeah, you have it set up

    so that you pay taxes and you get the rights of citizens
    and all those kind of stuff.

    And also, incidentally, you should be able to vote wherever you live,

    whether you're a citizen or not.

    This is a thing that used to be the case in the US long ago,

    but somehow people have been convinced that,
    you know, you have to be, not just a natural born citizen,
    but you have to be like, you have to put all these boxes around it.

    You can't have these, it's wild and ridiculous

    to have to not have borders.

    I can't even imagine not having a border.

    That's the level of propaganda, the level of ignorance,

    the level of just thoughtlessness,
    because a lot of it is also thoughtlessness.

    It's just, you have never considered these things.

    And you're just taking things the way they are

    and as you're used to them,
    and considering those to be the way they have to be
    and the way they always should be.

    And you're considering that, you know, like,

    oh, well, people in prison can be enslaved.

    The 13th Amendment banned slavery,

    except for in prison,
    except as a punishment for crime.

    Which, of course, just like disenfranchising people,

    gives you an incentive to criminalize certain people.

    It gives you an incentive to make things,

    to give people, to get people into the system,
    to make them slaves to enslave people.

    It gives you an incentive to disenfranchise people.

    You don't vote in.

    Yeah, and this is another thing like you talk to people,

    and it's like, oh, imagine if a convicted murderer
    was able to vote, what the fuck are they gonna do?
    What the, like, seriously, what do you think one person's vote?
    This is like the cost benefit analysis you should be doing.

    Imagine the worst possible person in the world.

    The worst, most evil malicious person in the world.

    They have one vote.

    And you have an election, like a presidential election,

    and the vote is decided by millions of people.

    That one person's vote, you're going to say,

    it's worth taking away the rights of everyone
    who has a felony conviction to vote,
    just because that one person's one tiny drop in the ocean vote
    is somehow so bad, it's somehow so terrible to give them,
    it's like fucking think about what you're saying,
    fucking think about it.

    Why is it so essential that you have a border at all?

    Honestly, it doesn't make any sense.

    It's something that I just wish people would think about.

    And anyway, the mom donny thing also, I talk about this.

    I talk a lot about how vote blue no matter who

    and the lesser of two evils and all this kind of stuff
    is all bullshit, and you should have fucking standards.

    And having the standard that, you know,

    I'm not gonna vote for a fucking Nazi.

    I'm not gonna vote for somebody who even looks like a fucking Nazi,

    and who might be a Nazi or is not a Nazi adjacent,
    or who even has a fucking Nazi tattoo
    or had a recently had a Nazi tattoo that, you know,
    like maybe he didn't know about it.

    Like they're, okay, he's disqualified

    because he didn't fucking know.

    He's disqualified because he knew

    and didn't do anything about it.

    He's disqualified because he got it in the first place.

    He's disqualified because he was a black quarter,

    contractor, you know, like he's disqualified
    for like a dozen reasons, at least.

    And also like, you know, and don't even get me started

    and you don't need people that look like me being in office.

    We got plenty of other people.

    Maybe, maybe, maybe,

    cis-hept white dudes that are made as fuck,
    don't need to be in fucking office.

    Don't need to be running for office.

    Maybe we should support other people.

    Yeah.

    And I'm not saying that that means that no one like me

    can ever run for office again.

    I've run for office personally.

    I might do it again, although I'm not sure anyone.

    I know it would be, I would do the job,

    but I would not want the job.

    But I'm not saying I wouldn't do it.

    But there are lots of other people who probably should be

    ahead in the line.

    There are lots of other people who have been underrepresented,

    who have been systematically disadvantaged
    and marginalized.

    They should probably get a little bit of a head out.

    They're heads up a little bit of a leg up,

    especially again, when you're talking about
    in one state hundreds of thousands of people we could pick from.

    You could pick somebody who's not him.

    You could easily do that,

    the longest before anyone collects the first signature.

    And yeah.

    But again, going to Mumbai, he is pro-cop.

    Pretty openly pro-cop.

    I'm not.

    I don't like that.

    He has a lot of other things that he said

    that I find a little bit problematic.

    But I will say this, if I was in New York City,

    and I was voting, I did absolutely the fuck vote for that guy.

    Absolutely.

    It would not be even a question.

    I'm not going to vote for somebody who supports genocide.

    I'm not going to vote for a person who looks

    neo-Nazi adjacent at least.

    But I'll vote for somebody who aligns with me on a lot of things.

    And maybe has some things that I'm a little dubious about.

    I didn't even vote for AOC.

    And I find AOC, I used to love her.

    I used to think she was amazing.

    And now I find her a little problematic, pretty problematic.

    But if I was there, if I was a constituent,

    one of hers, and it's between her and someone who's not better,
    I would pick her, I would pick her, I would vote for.

    Those are the lesser of two evils kinds of calculations you can do.

    Those are the lesser of two, like, you know,

    the lamus to the limit to the end,
    the perfect is the enemy of the good.

    Those are the kinds of calculations I will do.

    I'm not going to vote for fucking genocide.

    I'm not going to do it.

    And the thing that annoys me also is I keep seeing people saying,

    well, oh, you know, Democrats have this thing
    where any tiny little infraction is just, fuck you, that's not true.

    It's like saying me too completely, like went overboard.

    It did not, it did not.

    People, like, hardly fucking Weinstein was out,

    was a crowd of people around him at a comedy club,
    months before going to prison.

    And people knew exactly, like, it wasn't like it was a mystery.

    You know, some woman who was a comedian there spoke out about it

    and she got ejected.

    She got ejected.

    This is, like, you know, this idea that the bar is too high,

    the bar is in fucking hell.

    The bar isn't fucking, like, you have these people who will vote

    for genocide don't think that genocide is disqualifying.

    They don't think that being a neo-Nazi is disqualifying.

    And they do think that being, like, actually,

    kind of a democratic socialist, like,
    Mamdanie, that's disqualifying.

    You know, that somehow is horrible.

    It's just, it's just, it's just, it's just fucking annoying.

    And I'm here to tell you, if you had standards, if you had

    standards, you'd have candidates who could actually
    fucking win.

    Like, if you didn't just go for the fucking genocide candidates

    who are the Nazi candidates, you'd have candidates who would
    be better and who could fucking win.

    But also, like, I could vote for the, like, maybe I'd think

    about voting for them if you picked better people.

    Like, again, like, I mean, if I was in New York City,

    I would vote for Mamdanie.

    And borrowing, like, some new information that I don't know about,

    easily, easily.

    And I would advocate that you probably do it, too.

    Barring, again, like, maybe something horrible comes out of them.

    But I can't imagine.

    I can't imagine.

    And it's just, it's so annoying that people sit there

    and they talk about this.

    Like, you have tens of millions of people who could be

    in these offices.

    And somehow, you have to pick somebody who, and again,

    like, when you look at Harris, when you look at Biden,
    when you look at Hillary, when you look at,
    and I'm even going to say Obama, I did.

    Obama, when you ran, seems much better.

    But even when you ran, if you picked a random person,

    how do the population, completely at random?
    You know, close your eyes, picked somebody randomly.

    Almost certainly, you'd pick somebody better.

    Almost certainly, you would get somebody

    who was not as shitty as this guy.

    Like, and when you start going to, like, Harris,

    or fucking genocide, Joe, crime bill, Joe,
    Jim Crow, Joe, the, these are people, or Trump,
    who is the mirror image incidentally,
    again, of Biden, racist, old white dude,
    who have fucked up massively in their lives, many times,
    never faced any consequences for it.

    And they just keep falling upwards.

    Both of them got to be president.

    Both of them are the perfect avatars

    for the United States, the second republic.

    They are.

    This is another thing also, like, I've been obsessed

    with recently.

    I'm not saying that the republic is over,

    but kind of looks, kind of looks a little,
    yeah, maybe, a little bit, maybe.

    I mean, just here.

    But you look at that, and you're like, okay,

    the United States is 250 years old.

    And one of the longest lasting democracies

    in blood mobile, has a lot of obvious intrinsic flaws
    in the system.

    First off, it should be, like, having a presidency,

    pretty bad, prime minister is much better.

    Having votes with no confidence,

    having things where you have to organize a government,
    having things like proportional representation,
    much, much, much better than any of this stuff we do.

    And increasingly, also, you know,

    I think this is part of the problem
    with all of the stuff that I'm talking about,
    but I think sort of is the way to go.

    Fertition is this random selection of people,

    like, you have to be careful about it.

    You want to do stuff, like, say, okay, you have to opt in

    and then you have this, the people that opt in,
    we have some way, maybe, of removing people of their bad.

    Although you probably have, like, one person per,

    this is kind of arbitrary.

    Something like one person per 100,000,

    end up being the, so you have a massively bigger,
    so equivalent to the house, one person per 100,000,
    or so, get randomly selected, become the representatives.

    And then they make all of these decisions.

    And probably what you would do is you have that,

    like, staggered, have to be, like, a four or six-year term.

    Two years of that, you're, like, an apprentice.

    We probably voting, but you're sitting there

    and you're, like, shadowing somebody who's already been there,
    learning stuff and all of this.

    And then the next two or three years,

    you're teaching somebody.

    And you've probably, probably have some things like,

    while you're there, you don't have to use money.

    You, you're basically, in fact, you're forbidden.

    I'm not, I don't think you should be allowed to use money.

    I think while you're there, you probably,

    you have a uniform, you can, you can opt out of this
    if you want to, by the way, but you have a little tunic.

    All your meals are provided for you.

    You can get good food.

    All your health care is provided for you.

    You can get good health care.

    But you're not, you're not going on expensive trips.

    You're not going to luxury dinners.

    You're not getting people to buy you expensive gifts

    or any of those kind of stuff.

    And also, you probably are not getting it

    for at least five, 10, 15 years afterwards.

    In fact, given my drill,

    there's you probably have this thing where it's like,
    if you get this, it's like winning the lottery.

    You're going to be taking care of the rest of your life.

    You're going to get a nice comfortable house.

    You're going to get a nice comfortable pension

    that you'll have the rest of your life.

    Everything will be covered.

    But you're not allowed to have any assets.

    And when I say assets, like you can have your toothbrush,

    you can have your computer, you can have little stuff.

    But you can't have massive expensive things.

    You can't have five vacation homes.

    You can't have billions of dollars, certainly not even

    millions of dollars or hundreds of millions of dollars.

    You're just, you're done.

    And they don't worry about the details.

    But something like this, I think would be a lot better.

    And the reason I think it would be better

    is like, I used to be very pro approval voting.

    And approval voting is the system where it's basically like,

    you have all the candidates and you vote either,
    I approve of this person or not.

    It's like, in some sense, it's like ranked choice

    because you're picking the ones that you like
    and the ones that you don't.

    But ranked choice, you're picking the order.

    And here you're explicitly not picking the order.

    And I understand like people want to have the order

    and all of this kind of stuff.

    Turns out, having the order doesn't really add anything.

    It doesn't let you get around errors and possibility.

    There are a bunch of things in social choice theory.

    I'm kind of assuming that you know, but obviously probably don't.

    There are a bunch of things in social choice theory,

    which basically prove or are able to be proven
    that you essentially can't have a good voting system
    for collective decisions.

    And unless you have two options, ARB.

    As soon as you get three in there,

    there are all these problems that are made immediately arise.

    But what you can do is kind of get okay,ish.

    And again, approval voting, better than ranked choice voting,

    easier to implement, easier to understand.

    You either vote for against people or in option.

    And then you pick the one that has the most votes.

    You still, unfortunately, it's still subject

    to things like strategic voting.

    Again, it's not perfect.

    But it's a much more democratic system.

    And I'm pretty sure actually compatible

    with the Arizona Constitution
    and probably a lot of other state constitutions.

    You could make the change with legislation

    rather than a Constitutional Amendment.

    I'll probably want to do a Constitutional Amendment

    to make it better.

    But independent of that, all of that stuff,

    even if you had a perfect system,
    even if you had a magical system where you could make
    the absolutely best collective decision possible.

    And we're going to pick the person everybody likes the most.

    And not accidentally pick somebody terrible.

    The problem is it's still popular already contest.

    It's still something that rewards people

    for being known, for being cool,
    and for being like having a vibe to them,
    having a rap and a slimeball face,
    having the stuff that knew some and Buttigieg.

    And frankly, Biden thrived from then this guy,

    this fucking main guy.

    These are all people who are terrible

    who are like several standard deviations
    from the norm of being terrible.

    And yet they're the ones that are in the running area,

    the ones that are in people's minds,
    they're the ones that people will fight each other over.

    They're the people that will be defended,

    tooth and nail by people who really barely pay attention,
    but they like that, you know,
    I just like the way he makes me feel.

    You know, like, what the fuck is wrong with you people?

    And then they also think that they're going to win
    something that they have a better chance,
    based on nothing, based not on statistics or,
    you know, evidence or anything like that.

    But they think because they like them,

    because they find them appealing,
    somehow magically that means something, and it does not.

    But anyway, I personally am really on this sortation train.

    Now, I think it eliminates any of the popularity,

    it gives you a representative government,
    it gives you something where it's actually democratic.

    And it gives you something where you don't have things like,

    picking some state that just because of arbitrary lines
    that you've drawn on the sand,
    some state gets more power than another state.

    You don't have to do that, you can get rid of it.

    And it also, also, if you do that,

    and have a system where you're, for example,
    able to, I don't know, pick either by sortation
    or you could have an election out of those people,
    have them pick someone like a prime minister,
    have them have a thing where they have to form a government,
    do it with proportional representation,
    would be kind of cool, like you could have everybody say,
    you know, like I'm, and again, you could do this by sortation.

    You say, I am aligned with this group in this group,

    and this group, and not these, and then you have the candidates,
    and they say they represent this group,
    you know, the group actually has to prove them.

    But they're in the pool for that group,

    and now you could proportionally pick people.

    I don't think that you'd want to complicated that much.

    I would personally just pick people at random completely,

    but either way, you'll get a statistical representation.

    You do that, and then you've got something

    where you completely eliminate career politicians,
    you completely eliminate the advantage of having wealth
    and connections, you completely eliminate the advantage
    of having name or a new nation, or any of this kind of stuff.

    And you have so many people that now, you know,

    it's not like, it is just not a thing
    where you can easily target a few people.

    You can just grease the wheels on a few people.

    If you want to really change things,

    and you've got thousands of people in the house,
    it's a little bit more of a challenge, you know?
    Anyway, I just like the situation that we're in
    where people are so convinced of all this shit,
    and where they're making defenses,
    for again, people like this fucking main Nazi.

    I just, I don't like it, I don't get it,

    I don't fucking, you know?
    It has got me to the point where I aside from just thinking
    that the second republic probably should be over,
    it's not just that it is kind of over,
    whether you want it to be or not.

    But again, 250 years, it's a long run, lots of flaws

    in the system, we've seen these,
    France and less than the same time
    is that their fifth republic already, five,
    and they were, I think in the 60s.

    So even less time, they were to five, were to number two.

    You got the articles of consideration

    and you got the current constitution.

    Maybe, maybe, do another one.

    Maybe, even, you know, like, do another one,

    and then you're probably gonna fuck it up
    the first time or two.

    Do another one and plan on 10, 20 years down the line,

    doing another one still.

    You know, just do a pay-to-one regret,

    do it a couple times, figure it out.

    And, you know, although I will say,

    in order to actually have this work,
    you probably, unfortunately, need
    a much more educated population than, you know,
    I might currently have.

    So like, if we let people make a constitution now

    and people don't know the philosophy of law,
    people don't know the history of,
    like the theory of justice or anything like this,
    you might end up with some bad stuff,
    but it almost couldn't be worse, honestly.

    And if you did it well, I think it could be better,

    especially if you were picky about,
    so, you figure out good ways of finding
    the right people though.

    To make the thing, maybe it's probably not bad.

    And if you did it just, again, by chance,

    probably still wouldn't be that bad,
    but anyway, I just, I think you're, you know,
    the little turkey bump thing is popped out.

    I think for, I think you're ready to do the next thing.

    I think it's ready to, to go someplace else.

    And definitely, like this popularity contest,

    self is done.

    This stuff that, you have people who are terrible,

    who keep getting into these offices,
    it is just like, how do you not see
    that this is not what we need to be doing?
    How do you not see that we need to fucking improve the stuff?
    And this is also incidentally part of the reason
    why people found Trump appealing,
    because, again, Trump is fucking horrible,
    but he's at least different.

    And now, different now horrible way,

    but people are just desperate for change
    and they know that things are fucking, you know,
    just they suck.

    And so they saw something that was different.

    Are they grasping at that?

    And they also saw Obama promising, hope and change,
    and then not delivering on it
    and becoming the reporter and chief,
    the guy that was drowning a bunch of kids,
    all this kind of shit, not a great thing.

    They saw Bernie come up and then get

    tanned down by the fucking party
    in favor of genocide, Joe, you know?
    That's what we got.

    You can understand why people might,

    not like this is something,
    they might think that maybe we should do something else.

    Maybe maybe, let's try this.

    I would like to get out of the current regime

    and maybe we try something else.

    Maybe we find something better, you know,

    or you could just keep going down this path
    I never get anywhere and just, you know,
    perpetually circle the drain.

    I don't like that idea, I think you should do something else.

    But I don't know, I don't really know other

    than just the way things are,
    are not good, they need to change.

    And all of the shit is just crap that people made up.

    Like, you know, the founders were not people that came down

    from heaven, they were like 20 year olds
    who were rich and highly privileged.

    And, you know, like, you look at that situation,

    like, any or also, like, you can see how many ways
    and just I feel like I'm doing a lot of likes,
    but you could see so many different ways
    that these people stalked
    and the things that they put in their system
    stalked, they have checks and balances kind of,
    but the checks and balances obviously don't work,
    they have things that are like the enforcement
    and I'm using a lot of likes, it's a problem.

    We're gonna, but the enforcement, there's an off.

    The enforcement is nothing.

    It's essentially based on vibes.

    It's based on, like, the idea that people will do the right thing,

    which is ridiculous, and shouldn't be the case.

    Another thing that's interesting

    that I think should have been a giant red flag a long time ago
    is, for example, this idea, there's an home,
    this idea that the Supreme Court gets to pick and choose
    what laws are constitutional.

    There was nothing in the constitution that decided that.

    There was nothing, it was just a right

    that they judicial review is something that they just asserted
    that they had and made up, because there was a hole
    and somebody needed to do something, and so they did it.

    That's a sign that your fucking constitution sucks.

    The fact that you have a 13th amendment

    that bands slavery within Astros
    is a sign that your fucking constitution sucks.

    And then, the fact that you have freedom of speech

    that allows for people to just lie brazenly
    and do all kinds of horrible things
    that turns money into speech and all of this stuff.

    It sucks, it's fucking sucks.

    You need to change that thing.

    You need to rewrite it, you need to think about it a lot.

    And you probably need not to have the people

    who have been trying to rewrite it for a very long time.

    It's not a good thing in terrible ways.

    The federalists and all these people have been working on this.

    When they've wanted this constitutional convention

    for a long time, probably don't want them doing it.

    You probably want to think about it.

    You probably want to be ready for it.

    It's one of the reasons why it's super important

    to have people in the state legislatures who are good
    and why, honestly, it's one of the reasons that I ran,
    because I'm very well aware of this being a thing
    that they've been trying to do.

    And if they ever succeed, you have a bunch of state legislatures

    that are run by Republicans.

    If they get the right-and-new constitution, that's pretty bad.

    That's not the thing that you want.

    So maybe you should work on that.

    Maybe it's a thing to improve.

    And this idea that somehow the institutions

    as they exist have to exist and always existed,
    250 years is nothing.

    It's nothing at all.

    It's too long to have stuck with that.

    I mean, imagine that you wrote software 250 years ago.

    How shitty it would be.

    And especially if that was the first pass

    at software like that, you would not want stuff running
    on that anymore.

    You probably have to rewrite it.

    Even if you sat there and you're like,

    well, okay, it was in cobalt and it was in the 80s.

    Even then at a certain point, you'll end up being forced

    to rewrite it, because you're scheduling system
    just won't be able to take the capacity or something will
    happen and something breaks.

    And now we have to change it.

    We have to, something is broken.

    You have to change it.

    You should have recognized this a long time ago.

    And as always, the best time to plan the tree was 10 years ago,

    the second best time is now.

    I think with that, I'm not gonna keep,

    I'm not gonna keep rambling,
    but I think that's a good place to stop.

    As ever, thank you for listening and excited.

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  • Recalibrate

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    Episode Transcript

    there I'm Scott and this is Tangents.

    I have to say I was just listening to my

    last episode with my mom and sister while driving and I noticed a couple of
    things and there are things that I think need to be at least a tweet.

    It's not so

    bad that I would go back and redo the episode, especially given that I don't
    really have lots of time to myself to do that kind of stuff right now.

    But it is

    definitely stuff that I'm going to change going forward.

    And first of all,

    first of all, I noticed there were so many homes and us in there which is weird
    because it's something that I've been working on.

    Like I've been I did call it

    radio in the mid 2000s and I started my first podcast also around the same
    time.

    And I've been working on that for a very long time.

    Very long time.

    And it's

    not something that I generally do.

    It's not if you listen to my older stuff you

    won't hear so many homes and us.

    It's something that I've kind of, I had previously

    thought, worked my way out of.

    I, you know, it's something that everybody

    kind of does.

    But it's something that I thought I got to the point where, oh, I just

    don't really do that anymore.

    I don't have to worry about it.

    And I can only

    guess that I have backslid.

    I'm not taking it seriously enough or I was in a

    weird mental place or who knows what.

    I don't know if it's been like a gradual

    progression or if last one was just particularly bad or maybe it wasn't
    even that bad and I just noticed it because it is one of those things of course
    that it's it's very obvious and especially once you start listening for it
    it's going to be excruciatingly obvious and it was so so bad that whatever
    whatever the case I am going to make a very concerted effort not to do that
    because that is not what I want to put out.

    I definitely also noticed the

    audio quality.

    I'm still using my air pods and I need to, I have, I have some

    condense for my upstairs.

    I don't really, I moved to my sister's place and I

    don't have all of my stuff at least easily accessible.

    I don't know where it is

    and I don't really have a place to set stuff up and I don't really have a place
    to keep stuff that is easily accessible.

    So for the near-to-foreseeable future, I don't

    know what I'm going to do about that.

    I think I would probably like to get some

    kind of mic or mics that I can use that sort of work well.

    I thought I had this

    with, I had these weird rectangular rodents or in shorts things which I
    strongly did not like and do not recommend.

    I see people, I see people recording

    with them all the time and they look a little weird.

    They don't really work

    that well and the user interface was kind of crappy and I, I just had a lot of
    issues with them.

    I was not impressed.

    Don't recommend them.

    But I definitely

    would like something that is kind of the same idea.

    Like ideally I'd like

    something that I could put on myself, mic myself up easily, be pretty much anywhere
    and do that and have it sound good.

    And it'd be nice that the cat's tail thing

    would also be kind of useful.

    Those are on those except I don't know where

    buying are.

    They're sort of gone.

    And then it would also be nice.

    I've been

    thinking about trying to do one of these at least one and maybe even like a series
    with my mom.

    I've been trying to persuade her to write a book, don't buy books.

    I know, so that's my book.

    I don't know what I'm thinking of.

    I've been trying to

    persuade her to write a book which would be a stupid crazy bitch.

    And the reason

    that it would be called this is that this is something that she's been talking to me
    about for my entire, maybe not quite my entire life, but certainly my adult
    life and into high school was just when she, she was first in attorney or
    sorry, she was first a nurse and then had me and my sister and then went to law
    school and became an attorney and was an attorney until she retired.

    And one of

    the things that she really noticed and remarked on and an unfortunate thing
    that she faced a lot was obviously just misogyny.

    And one of the, this is

    probably informs and maybe is a factor in why I'm so pro-abortion and why I think a
    lot about this and I'm extraordinarily self-conscious and worried about doing
    anything and probably to do an access into my detriment.

    But anyway, the thing

    that she would always talk about and it would be nice to get her to actually talk
    about it instead of just me secondhand telling you this.

    But it was basically that

    you know at first, guys would, and this is especially happened in law.

    Although it was a

    thing that she noticed in general, but law is where she really found it.

    At first, people

    would just call her stupid and apologies sick and all of that stuff.

    It was a term that

    at the time was much more normalized and now obviously it was an ableist connotation
    to it and aspect to it than I didn't know or appreciated the time.

    Although I think

    it still works because it was the word that they were using specifically, not her.

    And

    so she's just repeating it, not saying it.

    But first they would call her stupid and then

    start realizing that, you know, you're not stupid.

    You actually are like, you know what

    you're talking about, you've done research and you're kind of dangerous for us continuing
    the horrible shit that we're doing.

    So then they would transfer to calling her crazy.

    Again,

    ableism and all of that kind of stuff.

    But again, not her word, it's what they would

    call her.

    And, you know, then when that didn't work, transitioned to just calling her a

    bitch.

    And I think, especially when you hear it in her words and you hear the stories,

    it really captures a certain thing that I think is unfortunately it's still very relevant
    today, which is, I'm recording this on the 11th of October 2025.

    And you would think,

    Incidentally, I assume that that would say 11 October 2025, but in the transcription, almost
    without fail, whoever's doing the transcription, it changes that into the museum month
    day year, which is just bizarre and annoying.

    But anyway, never mind that now.

    The fact

    that it's 2025 and this is still a thing that's relevant is fucking annoying.

    And I mean,

    similar to obviously racism, white supremacy and all these other things, you would like to think
    they don't really matter and they're not a factor anymore.

    And yet, here we are.

    And I just,

    I just read something actually that I think really captured something where we took a wrong turn,
    which was, it wasn't that it's important.

    And it is important to me wrong to address the underlying

    feelings and the way people are treated and all those kind of stuff.

    But the really important thing

    is not to make people not be racist or not to make people not be misogynistic or anything like that,
    but to remove their ability to do harm through racism, through misogiting and so on.

    This says two effects, because one, it actually solves the real problem, which is the harm,

    because somebody saying words that are mean stocks and it's annoying, it's terrible and all this,
    and it has other consequences, but it's not stopping you from getting a house.

    It's not stopping

    you from getting a job.

    It's not limiting your ability to, you know, muster a salary or make an

    argument in court or do any of these kinds of things.

    Those are another aspect that's the harm

    that's actually being done.

    And the other thing that it does, and I think this is easy to kind of

    lose sight of it.

    Maybe I'm just overly optimistic about it and it's not real, but I think I think

    if you cut the balls off of the ability to actually do harm with this language, as a secondary
    effect, I think you start diminishing the amount that people are using that language.

    In a certain

    point, people realize, oh, you're pushing up against a brick wall, you're not getting anywhere,
    and I think that kind of causes people to extinguish whatever anti-social behavior they're engaging
    in.

    I could be wrong, but I think that's the case.

    I think it's like how many people are going to

    continue doing something if it doesn't achieve anything, if it doesn't accomplish anything for them.

    I don't think that many.

    I think it wears itself out, which gives you in the end the stated

    goal of sort of suppressing the act of people doing that kind of shit as a secondary effect.

    It's again one of these things.

    I know a lot of people chase happiness.

    I can't remember who it was,

    but there was somebody who famously had somebody asked them like, what do you want to,
    what do you want to be when you grow up, and then they said happy? This was meant to be a really
    good thing, and it was meant to say like, oh, well, being happy is a better goal than success or being
    in a particular profession or whatever.

    Being happy is nice.

    Being happy and experiencing joy,

    not to focus on the fucking joy thing, but having an experiencing joy is a good thing.

    The problem

    comes when you make the goal, the joy, but you make the goal the happiness.

    I think that does a

    couple of things also here, because one, it's very elusive.

    It's not something happiness and joy

    and satisfaction are things that come from doing things and come from accomplishing things
    and come from certain things that like activities and ways of engaging with people and so on.

    They're not things that you can easily just go like, I want to be happy, and then you steer

    your entire life to being happy and it's never going to happen.

    In fact, I would say probably

    if you want to be unhappy, you want to guarantee that you are miserable, trying to pursue happiness
    as an end goal unto itself is going to get you there.

    It's going to get you into a really kind of

    hellish place and it's going to be miserable for people around you too.

    If your goal is, I want other

    people to be happy.

    It's good to think happiness is something that is a nice side of

    fact of stuff or to have other people feel satisfied.

    It's a nice side effect, but if you really want

    people to be happy, unless you are giving them drugs or electric way stimulating their brains,
    you're not really going to achieve that goal.

    I personally would say that giving somebody

    drugs to make them feel happy or satisfied or electric way stimulating their brains or whatever
    not really a good thing.

    It's not a, I'm going to go way out on a limb and say that.

    The other thing that I noticed when I was recording or rather when I was listening to my last

    episode is the Fox.

    And I have to say, I have no problem with the word fuck, obviously.

    Obviously,

    you listen to the last episode, you'd certainly know that.

    But I do think, and I even would

    go so far, actually, as to say that I don't think that you should moderate your language
    just to accommodate people necessarily.

    I do think there is a thing that you shouldn't be

    obnoxious about stuff.

    You shouldn't be, I had lunch with my mom today and there were people

    behind us who were excessively loud.

    Like ridiculously, I would say performing loudness and

    excitement and all of this kind of stuff and they're just talking about all of this stuff and
    the super loud and intrusive and invasive.

    And don't get me wrong.

    I'm glad that you're having a good

    time.

    But at the same time, there are other people on the fucking planet.

    And this is one of those things

    where it's like, if everybody behaves in the same way, all of you accomplish is everybody has to
    ratchet themselves up to 11.

    And everybody's competing with each other to be the loudest to be

    heard and all of this versus if everybody speaks at like a comfortable conversational tone,
    then at least we can all hear each other and we don't have to like ramp this up and it's not
    a vicious cycle that just makes things worse for everybody and ruins everybody's experience.

    I'm not saying you necessarily should have like the Japanese thing where

    everything is almost to an excess set up to accommodate other people and not to offend other
    people.

    Maybe that's going too far.

    But I do think going on the fucking Metro,

    there's my fox going on the fucking Metro.

    It's funny given how little fuck or how few

    fox I have to give that I'm so like used so many fox in that one.

    But getting back,

    going on the fucking Metro, there it is again.

    Going on the Metro in Tokyo and people are not loud

    and obnoxious and talking to each other in a super loud voice.

    It's so nice.

    It's really nice.

    It's very pleasant.

    It's incredibly pleasant to be on the street someplace and not have like

    a bunch of drunk people loud and obnoxious intruding everything and getting just into your space
    and getting you in this position where it's like if I want to be heard, I have to fight.

    I have

    to ramp myself up and then I'm part of the noise.

    I'm part of the cacophony and they are getting

    louder to compete with my cacophony bullshit and I'm getting louder to compete with them and then
    it's just this cycle which never ends.

    It's not going someplace good.

    Versus, everybody sort of

    dials things back to a comfortable level to a level where you're heard by the people around you.

    You're as expressive as you need to be still.

    I don't think you need to be

    suppressing yourself or holding back.

    You could be having a lot of joy and having a lot of excitement.

    Having a lot of verb, so to speak, not a word that I would actually use.

    But in that state,

    not being fucking obnoxious.

    Really, you don't have to be obnoxious.

    And so anyway, I think the folks are a thing that I'm not going to stop.

    I'm definitely not going

    to make this a air quotes clean podcast.

    I'm not going to make this something where I avoid certain

    language.

    There are a couple of words that I would not say.

    When I say a couple, I mean really like

    a small handful of words that I would not say.

    I wouldn't have heard of me to say them.

    Also,

    I never have in my life an occasion to say the end word.

    The closest that I would ever come is

    if it's in a song or something.

    And even then, I don't really have the impulse to say it.

    In fact,

    I have the very strong aversion from saying it.

    I wouldn't use the R word.

    I wouldn't use the F word.

    And I don't mean fuck there to be clear.

    It just never would occur to me.

    To use that in a

    disparaging way against people.

    And all of these things also incidentally are quite annoying right now

    because a lot of people, a lot of people who look like me incidentally, a lot of white people,
    are getting weird about this stuff.

    And they're like, oh, I can say the R word whenever I want.

    And they get fucking obnoxious about it.

    They're using the the end word and the F word.

    And

    so many of these other things.

    And it's just like, guys, A, not everything is for you.

    Just that's

    and the thing about that also is like, I don't have, I'm using a lot of likes here.

    I notice.

    But I don't have the impulse to do it.

    And I don't feel like I'm being restrained in some way

    by not using those words.

    It doesn't really seem like holding back.

    It doesn't really seem like I have

    an occasion where I'm like, I just need this word and I can't come up with something else.

    The closest that I have to that actually is in trying to rig myself of ableist language,

    it's extraordinarily difficult.

    And I'm not suggesting that I should that I'm making a mistake.

    I think it's good to rig yourself of ableist language and say in this language and to sort of

    stop like the body shaming.

    Like, if you're criticizing Trump, for example, I see so many people

    engaging in just casual, gross homophobia and transphobia and they love going into the body shaming
    and ableism and so many fucking horrible things.

    And it's like, this is a person who has

    endless real legitimate criticisms you can love against them.

    And you're going for this stuff that

    is just petty and shitty and just not cool.

    It's making other people feel bad.

    It's harming other

    people and he doesn't give a fuck.

    He doesn't.

    In fact, he's the kind of person that uses that language.

    He's the kind of person that does make fun of people for how they look and does make fun of people

    for where they are in terms of abilities and all of this kind of stuff.

    Don't be like that

    mother fucker.

    Be better.

    Be fucking better.

    And the reason that I have trouble, like I struggle a

    little bit with that is not because I want to do it necessarily.

    It's just that the English language

    in particular in the way it's used in the US that I've been raised with natively is so ableist,
    just so deeply fundamentally shitty in that way that I've noticed like first it's easy enough to
    stop saying like this is stupid or this is dumb or you know this is again the R word never really
    occurred to me to say even when I was a little kid and it was socially acceptable to do so
    never really a word that I had any impetus to say but stupid crazy silly well I guess silly is okay
    but yeah you go through and there are so many words like this it's the first layer is you start
    getting rid of the obvious low hanging fruit which is just you know if you don't need to call
    shit stupid you don't you just don't need to you can find other ways you don't need to say something
    is crazy saying something is wild achieves basically the same thing and it's not a saying
    is sort of thing so it's it's easy enough but then the remarkable thing happens and when I say
    remarkable I mean not in a good way is you get rid of those words and then you start noticing
    that it oozes out through the cracks like you you're trying to find other words and first off you
    will come up with some obscure word that in its etymology is actually ableist or you know in a
    many cases it comes from some racist term as a horrible term really not great stuff to be using
    those are the obvious ones the second the secondary obvious ones but then also like the concepts
    the way that you're trying to think of it it's not just that you're pulling for those words
    you're pulling for those concepts and it's really challenging and when I say this I mean
    I'm still struggling with this I'm pretty good at it I think but I'm really I found it to be
    a very big challenge something that takes a lot of effort and some concentration and some
    real deep consideration and not using other terms or other like phrases that basically mean the same
    thing and or or at least like skirt on the same stuff it's remarkable and it's horrible how hard
    it is to avoid so anyway I'm not going to be those those terms I definitely wouldn't use but
    fuck I'm gonna I'm gonna fuck a little bit less on my episodes not because I again like want
    this to be something where anyone who has sensitive ears to those words is not just going to be
    okay I'm just listening to it I'm I'm definitely gonna say fuck but I don't want to undermine my
    point and like the Greta one I really had a couple things I wanted to talk about and in listening to it
    I feel like they're the fox or they're to such an extent but it's actually an active
    distraction the arms and ears are there to such an extent that it is an active distraction
    and listening to that episode I really struggled I really struggled not to be focused on those things
    now maybe again this is just me because I'm the one listening to myself and that makes you more
    aware of certain stuff but it definitely did not did not really work for me it didn't really
    feel like this is something that I would be proud to put out there and have random people listen to
    much much less my mom and my sister so I'm going to put some stuff out that is going to be
    better quality I think at least that's that's going to be I think if the goal is to improve things
    I don't think that's ever a bad thing as long as you're idea of improving things is not yeah
    is not bad now one thing I'm not gonna address that any further that's I think that's plenty
    one thing I definitely do want to talk about is my Patreon and I noticed in that episode also
    this is fucking weird and I don't know like I feel bad asking people to subscribe to my Patreon
    although I also I know there are people probably listening who could you know maybe you could do
    seven dollars a month or maybe you could do twenty five dollars a month or maybe you could do a hundred
    dollars a month or maybe you or somebody who can do like thousands of dollars a month and it's no
    big deal I don't know I have no idea but I'm sure there's some amount and you get enough of those
    together and it starts adding up to something substantial and I just keep thinking about what I would
    like to be doing in life and also at the same time how difficult it has been to
    I've been applying to so many fucking jobs so many fucking jobs and many of them are jobs that I am
    really just seriously severely overqualified for like I could very easily do these jobs but they're
    also like jobs listen to the likes and working on that one too but they're they're also jobs
    where it's like there it is it's hard it's really hard you don't just listen to me trying it
    you try it yourself it's very difficult there's an um but not jobs that I would really be interested
    in not jobs that I would consider under normal circumstances their jobs that are sort of like
    entry level positions where I'm I should be pretty significantly far behind beyond some of these
    things and I'm like I'm not saying I don't I want to be the fucking CEO or VP or something but
    I would like to not be doing stuff that's like data entry or some kind of complete bullshit that is
    and I don't mean to say that it's beneath me but it's fucking I have some skills and some training
    and some experience that should put me a little bit beyond some of that kind of stuff and I don't think
    like at the same time also I don't think given what they're gonna pay for it that it would justify
    the pain and annoyance from these things this is another thing also like I've been going through
    job applications and so many so many now are like onsite there's another like so many are onsite
    only like zero remote work and or or it's Google just had this thing that came out where if you do
    remote work one day they're gonna count you for a whole week and they have this thing where it's like
    flexible there's another like by the way I wasn't gonna address it but it it is
    extraordinarily difficult I am working on it though but they're talking about how they have this
    thing where it's so great and you can work flexibly four weeks out of the year for many where
    and now they're kind of tightening that up and they're also changing it so that it's not
    four weeks it's four weeks but technically because if you work one day from someplace else we're
    going to count that as a full week and it just keeps shredding this fucking shit and all I can
    think here is for most of the jobs especially the kinds of jobs that I would do and especially
    the kinds of the developer jobs there's another one that people at Google would do developer
    product project manager all of all of these kinds of things you do not need to be physically
    onsite it's I had a company where we were doing hardware development and even with bring up
    and stuff like that we worked fully remote and it worked pretty fucking well I think it worked
    actually very well there's some stuff that is a little bit challenging there are some moments where
    in the need of certain specialized equipment or something or it helps to have a few people in the
    same place but those are a few in far between unless you're doing board bring up constantly or
    integration constantly it's not stuff that you really need to all be in the same place for and
    especially if you do it right and you sort of break things up in a natural lot and reasonable way
    you don't need to have every single person on the team in the same space touching the same
    stuff you can have the mechanical person figuring some stuff out and they can send it to
    electronics and they can integrate the boards and do all of this kind and you can go back and
    forth a little bit you can 3D print stuff especially if you have the right equipment you can have
    some oscilloscope and some soldering irons have them kind of spread around let people do stuff that
    way and it just works pretty well it works actually remarkably well and it's just it's just
    fucking silly and at a certain point in fact this has been studied and productivity goes up
    the amount of work and frustration people have goes way down and there's so much attached to
    in person work that sucks that is counterproductive like for example spending all the time
    commuting which you're wasting and you're not actually working during that is time that either
    your burning out because you only have so much time that you can really focus and only so much
    energy in life so you're wasting time on that or you're eating into the time and energy that you
    have to do to do work and then you're also feeling that much more worn down by it because it's not
    just the time that you're at work it's the time that you're preparing to go to work and the time
    that you're traveling to work and the time that you're parking and doing all that kind of stuff
    and then the time that you're leading work and the time that you're taking going home and all of
    this all of those little things add up to so much and I'm not even saying necessarily that
    you would be using that time to work work although certainly some of it probably certainly
    if you don't need to look at the clock and then get the fuck out at five o'clock exactly or six
    o'clock whatever you're forced to do you know you're probably used some of that but also
    and this is a very big thing but I definitely noticed in my last job
    you spend all that time in energy getting back and forth and being frustrated and dealing with traffic
    and being part of traffic and it just burns you the fuck out and for me I am pretty
    especially like it's not consistent it's not like I turn it on and then I'm just hard-working
    constantly forever but when I'm really in a nice flow state I work really hard and I work long hours
    and I'm not saying that that's the thing that you should do all the time I don't think anyone should
    but that's my sort of natural thing in fact the the one thing that I kind of like about
    physically going to the office is that you can use that as a boundary and say I'm not going to
    I'm not doing fucking shit when I'm not here which is what I ended up doing it's still ended up
    being a pain in the ass because especially like the kind of work that I do there's another like
    the kind of work that I do and the kind of work that I was doing there is not work that is really
    well confined to time and space it's stuff that especially for cognitive work especially when
    you're kind of solving problems it's stuff that tends to sort of happen on its own schedule
    there are sometimes I might spend a couple of hours not being able to do anything or get anything
    down and then I'll figure some stuff out and stuff will start moving really naturally
    and I'll just want to work until like 3 a.m.

    on something because it's it's coming that smoothly

    and when you have that fixed 95 or 8 to 5 or 8 to 6 or whatever the fuck your ridiculous
    schedule is when you have that it doesn't really it's it's very brittle and doesn't really
    afford that kind of flexibility so it's something that I don't want to deal with the other thing
    with my Patreon is again I'm going to be there's another like I'm going to be working on stuff
    no matter what and I would really like given that one was actually a proper like but I would really
    like to have the energy and the time that I have to spend on stuff going to stuff that matters
    and that actually is helping people and is actually moving the ball forward and it's actually
    stuff that I feel like is worth my time and I don't want to deal at all with the bullshit I don't
    want to I don't want to deal with having to to waste my life in my time and my energy
    on stuff that is just ridiculous independent of the schedule but especially also I don't want
    to waste it on this schedule for garbage which is one of the reasons why it's really difficult
    when it's a job that I'm very over qualified for very uninterested in doing and it's on site
    full time applying to that and taking it seriously especially especially if they're asking me to
    write a fucking cover letter and put a lot of time into each like even even the the simple
    applications take a lot of time and some of them require a cover letter and a statement of research
    and a statement of education and it's like a day or two of work to apply for one position
    that I'm probably not even going to get a negative from like I'm probably not even going to get
    thanks but no thanks from that's another thing actually also applying to so many jobs
    that I am over qualified for and I'm not interested in a mostly I'm not getting any responses at
    all which it sucks and it's annoying but it's not the worst thing the worst thing is you apply
    to a job that you are wildly over qualified for that you could have been doing in a high school
    basically or in your first couple of years of undergrad could have been doing that job and then
    they send you a fucking thing and you didn't want to do the job and also it's on site and
    you know it's it's a layer upon layer upon layer of nope and then they said you a fucking email
    that's like that we we decided you didn't satisfy our minimum requirement so some other bullshit
    it just it makes me I don't know I if yourius is not the right word it's just like
    fuck this fuck this I don't want to deal with it so it comes back to the Patreon I will be working
    on stuff no matter what I will be if I had if I didn't have to worry about fucking money I would
    probably be doing things that would make bigger contributions to society and I would probably
    also inadvertently like not as a thing that I'm going for as a goal but just by happened
    stance I would probably have multiple companies if I had the resources and the time to pursue
    my interests I would definitely have more than a few products and it is annoying to be sort of
    spending my wheels on other bullshit and I could be making things that would actually be useful
    for people and interesting for people and helping people and all of those kind of stuff and instead
    I'm just wasting time on bullshit and I don't have the resources to really devote to these things
    I would like to change that I would like to not be in this position and so I made this Patreon
    and I'm going to try I'm really going to try not to fuck up my name because somehow in my last
    episode I fucked up my name so many times it is patreon.com slash the era mark echo november austero
    meo the era mark echo november austero romio I've written down that's the only reason I can
    I can say it correctly because I kept fucking up my own name I kept somehow putting the R and the O
    backwards or or something like that but it is simply my name, Esmanor, uh, Sierra Mark echo
    november austero romio I'm pretty good I have to say at the NATO alphabet at this point
    but there are a couple things like that that just get to me, uh, it's irritating, there's an arm
    so if you have money and if you want to support me and I'm not saying like if you don't
    don't feel pressure don't feel any don't feel bad about it but if you if you do if you can
    I would greatly appreciate if you went there and just whatever amount you can it could be something small
    could be something big it was big it would be awesome if it's small still good I greatly appreciate it
    and if you can't do it I still you know thank you for listening so that's that's that
    the other I think this is going to be the final thing that I talk about today is I have I haven't
    trying to get away from Apple for a long fucking time and it's actually quite frustrating to me because
    my long-term trajectory has been I when I was when I was young had dating myself here I had a PC
    it was dust based and had the dust based PC and then Windows came around I got that
    OS 2 came around I got that for a little while and ended up back I'm Windows because OS 2 was cool but
    it wasn't great and I kept seeing this power PC stuff for Macs and I got excited about it and I
    liked the idea of it but never quite got into it and then they came out with Mac OS 10 which was
    Unix under the hood I should say at this time I was I had Windows but I was dual booting to
    sometimes Linux but mostly sometimes free BSD and often open BSD and then X Windows and a
    various X Windows managers it was a pain in the ass because I was constantly tweaking stuff and
    one of those things also where and when I first started doing it it was fun when I first was at work
    and I was working on a X and using X Windows managers and I'm like dialing things and getting
    stuff just so it was fun but then you'd go and you'd be on a new system and suddenly you're on
    HP UX and you can't use the same Windows manager and you have to figure that shit out and you have to
    re-dial it in it was okay and then you do that like two or three times and then you just like
    fuck this I don't want to deal with it I just want somebody else to worry about it and give me something
    that looks good and works well and also has the Unix underneath and so when Mac OS 10 came out
    beta I was excited about it I was excited about any XT and I was really excited about Mac OS
    10 and I switched then I got I was working at Intel at the time and I still got a power PC based
    titanium MacBook Pro or I guess it was titanium powerbook at the time powerbook cheaper
    it gives you a date and I'm working it Intel and people that Intel were not super excited about
    a more I'm out of role-based chip mode of role-based computer but still I liked it I really enjoyed it
    and that was decades ago and I've enjoyed Mac OS in a lot of ways although I will say
    it's been a little annoying progressively more over time because there are certain things that I want to
    do that are basic they're not ridiculous they're not things that are things that really should
    require that much work they're not things that they're just things that should be solved
    talking problems for example I want the volume at a comfortable level like I don't know it's a ridiculous
    thing to want but I want the volume at a level that doesn't hurt my fucking ears I want to be
    able to hear what's going around around me I want to be able to hear the the music or the podcast
    that I'm listening to and I don't want it to blast my fucking ears out and for the longest time
    then this is both macOS and iOS have fucked up the audio so badly like the lowest I can turn
    the volume is if you if you do the volume up and down buttons it's these giant increments and again
    audio levels are a logarithmic like you can keep taking it down in order of magnitude
    forever it will be inaudible at a certain point but you can keep going really low really really low
    but instead they have like fucking loud loud still loud off like off two fucking loud off
    two in a in a quiet room and when I'm walking I need it like a quarter to a third of the way
    up depending on what I'm listening to but in a quiet room the lowest level is too loud for me
    and not only that but they give you this thing where you can go option shift and then hit volume
    up and down and now you're moving in quarter steps and on the Mac you could also dial it by hand
    on the on iPhone and either one of these it's too fucking loud or it's off still through fucking
    loud at a quarter step and then it's off and then on top of that just to make it more annoying
    ship will like randomly adjust on its own and there are things where you can turn it on and off
    the ability to adjust for the environment and make you have your personal audio levels or something
    like that that's not what I'm talking about I've got that disabled by the way disabled is a
    precarious word I have it turned off but it still fucking turns itself up so I've already got the
    problem where it's too loud at the lowest level and then I'm listening to stuff and it is just
    there it's getting louder no for no fucking reason it just starts getting louder and I'm listening
    to it getting louder and I can even watch the thing dial itself up it's like why who thought this
    was a good fucking idea like if your users set the volume to a low level let them keep it there
    it's one of the things I really miss about the wired headphones that I could use the little
    analog volume adjuster and I could dial it way down to a comfortable level also another thing
    that I really miss about those this is something that kind of pisses me off because I've got
    air pod pros and there is a swear I'm not imagining this that I've read about it so I don't think
    it's just me but I think they've got active noise canceling on even when it's turned off
    there's a little bit of it eight because I've heard it actually actually turn off at a
    couple of occasions but be because I I feel the same pressure that you get from the ANR it's not
    as severe as when you turn it on but it's there and everything sounds muffled and I can hear
    myself in the way it's it's like cotton in my ears and I don't like it I want I missed those old
    wired air buds or whatever the fuck they were called that I could listen through here the
    street noises here what's happening around me and hear the music and adjust the music to a
    comfortable level I missed that shit I actually did such an extent that I really am kind of
    debating if I should just go back to them although I don't know if there's an analog volume
    control anymore I think you're fucked on that but it's just it's just fucking annoying it's just
    really fucking annoying I hate it and I hate that they're making decisions for me that I don't
    want made and that that stuff is just that's without getting into the politics now you've got
    Tim Cook doing all this fucking shit, placating Trump, sucking up to Trump, taking down ice
    block from the app store all kinds of shit I'm sure they're gonna back door stuff at a certain point
    and you just look at that you know like I don't want to deal with this shit anymore I want
    something better and also also they've just then done in this iOS and Mac OS 26 thing
    this new glass interface look with glass interface the only reason for it I swear is just like all
    this bullshit fake AI shit giant audible air quotes AI they're getting computers that are so powerful
    and so fast that now they have all those performance you have a supercomputer in your pocket
    and they're trying to figure out shit to do with them and they're just making up problems to
    what I would I would really rather is to get the because all of that performance what it could
    do instead is give you the ability to run an operating system which looks pretty good it's like
    five or ten years old and do it at a tenth of the power consumption a hundredth of the power
    consumption and you start thinking about that and then it's like oh you could have an iPhone
    that just works for days you could have your MacBook Pro just working for days because it's not
    wasting so much time on the goddamn user interface looking which already looks pretty good looking
    a little bit more slick looking like a little bit oh we're gonna deal with refraction and we're
    gonna do all those kind of stuff it's I don't give a shit about that I don't I really truly don't
    I'm not saying it doesn't look cool but it doesn't add anything to my experience and I know
    you're wasting power on it and you know you have these three nanometer process chips and you could just
    have like the tiniest amount of that chip dedicated to running the OS and give me if I want to
    actually use that power for something I'm compiling shit I'm doing stuff that actually takes
    that processing I don't need you to waste it on a fucking user interface I really don't I don't
    need it I don't need my phone to have like a little glassy user interface it's silly and
    especially also I don't need the fucking LLM and my phone inserting words that I don't want
    there and changing words after I hit send I don't need that chip I don't want it it was bad
    enough when you were changing the fucks to dox and now it's like I'll hit send and it adds a
    goddamn word after I hit send I don't want that I don't hit all and then you add onto that
    the ice block shit and the sucking up the trunk and all of this other bullshit and I just I
    want something else so I really think my next phone will be a fair phone and not only that there's
    an operating system for it which I think is called EOS although I don't put me on that
    which is D Google Android this is one of the reasons why I'm not already switched to an Android
    because it's like oh you can it's a very lateral move to go from iPhone to an Android phone I want
    to be under something that is not either of the above I don't want that so the fair phone I think
    uh and I'm not I'll also I'd you think it'd be nice to be able to have your computer last for
    20 years and I think we're to the point where unless you're doing stuff that's really pushing
    the edge if you're just sitting there like web browsing and doing word processing and shit
    you could have a computer from 20 years ago and it would be perfectly serviceable there's no
    reason that you need you know tariflobs of processing to do that or you could have tariflobs of
    processing and not have to push it further you know you don't have to keep updating the OOS
    in a way that is just getting more and more expensive and so I would like to have a thing where
    you're buying this stuff once and you could live with it for a long time I don't like having a
    glass phone for this reason I don't like the idea that the the screen on my phone is basically
    designed to break it it exists in a metastable state that is inevitably given enough time going to
    break and is worse because I don't wear it out I don't wear I don't use a screen protector because I hate
    that but even if you have one it's still going to break eventually I don't want that so
    the fear of phone I do think has a glass screen unfortunately but if it's nice to just get
    away from Apple that's my next that's my next thing the reason I say that is because I'm hoping
    that if you're listening you get that unfortunately annoyingly they're a Dutch company and they
    don't sell directly in the US so you have to deal with that shit which anyway I thought this was
    going to be a 20 minute long thing and ended up being 50 so far and I could go on for another
    half hour but I have some urgency to stop actually so I am going to discontinue at this point
    thank you for listening I will I will really be working on the Oms and the O's I will be
    working on on fucking things a little bit and just we'll try to put together a little bit of a
    better thing I do think and I hate this but I do think having an outline helps and I'm going to
    try to do that a little bit more I have a couple of things that I wanted to do also but this
    when I thought preempted it because it was really the last one was really bad and I want to
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    Episode Transcript

    Hey there I'm Scott and this is Tangents.

    Well it is Tuesday, October 7th, 2025.

    You might know that date because two years ago, two years is a long fucking time and it's yet a blink.

    And obviously October 7th, it started in 1948 almost, well almost 80 years ago now.

    October 7th, pretty significant.

    It was really the start of the end of my, at the time,

    I thought best friendship.

    But certainly as an adult, I would call him my best friend.

    And between then and really, I think the last message we exchanged was December 31st that year,

    2023, he went from thinking that, you know, like, oh, generally respecting me and thinking
    these are things about me to literally calling me a conspiracy theorist on the level of a,
    what did he say, like a 911 truth or which is fucking ridiculous, by the way, because I said a couple
    of things that were not super flattering about BB.

    And time in history has kind of proven them to be true,

    namely that among other things, IDF was a IOF, I should say, was standing down on the 7th.

    And at the time, we already knew that Egyptian intelligence knew that something was a foot,

    like we kind of knew.

    And I told my friend this and I still feel this way.

    But yeah,

    Israeli intelligence, Mossad, is really well known, or I feel like I probably shouldn't even say,
    well, I guess it's too late.

    But yeah, it's really, really, really well known for being extremely

    good and competent.

    And the idea that Egypt would have known and they wouldn't have just

    fucking preposterous.

    And we also, like, if you were paying attention at the time, it was pretty

    fucking clear that, you know, Netanyahu and many other people, not just him.

    I know a lot of people

    kind of like focus on him, just like a lot of people in the US now focus on Trump.

    There are a lot of

    other people involved.

    The whole fucking gunnazot, I say the whole.

    There are exceptions.

    There are

    good people in there, but they are the exception of the exception.

    And similarly in the population,

    I will say, like, of the people being recalled from the reserves, there is a decent amount
    that are not showing up, which is something.

    And, you know, it seems like progress.

    Although I don't know that it's gotten, I don't think it's been improving that much, but but still,

    you know, and the general sentiment is in some ways getting better, but the polling
    for the Israeli population is not good.

    It's not good.

    I always think, like, this is a place

    where literally every year to remember the show, the Holocaust, they have this thing
    where whatever you're doing, other than, like, if you're in surgery and you're operating on somebody,
    but say you're driving on the freeway.

    This horn goes off, everyone just stops.

    Literally the fucking freeway they stop, they park on the road, they get out of their cars, and then

    they will, you know, like, take two minutes just to remember.

    And when you're doing that,

    and it's like such an integral part of the society, it is beyond fucked to
    prosecute a genocide.

    It's beyond fucked to be an apartheid state.

    And it just, it fucking pisses me off.

    It fucking, like, this is a guy who I formerly liked and respected, and this is a country that

    I will event like at one point in time, I had pretty good feelings about a lot of my life.

    I thought

    that thought good things about them.

    And, yeah, I will say, like, as a kid, the first time that I

    remember a little kind of wink, a little, like, maybe this isn't so great.

    I don't know how old I was,

    but I was watching something on TBS.

    And I remember very distinctly, I'm watching this thing, and I see

    this woman crying, crying, and there are subtler's coming, they're taking her house, and they're
    bulldozing the neighborhood, and she's crying because she wants to lose her house.

    I was a kid, I didn't

    know any of the details, I didn't know very much, and at the time I was kind of primed to not be on
    the side of the, the Palestinians, and yet, even as a kid, I could fucking tell who was, yeah,
    like, it's not that complicated.

    And this is one of those things also, like, I heard for so much

    of my life, it's complicated, you know, the details, you have to, you have to be like a scholar to
    understand, it's not that complicated.

    This is one of the most things when you learn about them,

    become more nuanced, become more complicated.

    This is something like the more that I've learned

    about it.

    And I'm not saying that it's like completely trivial, I'm not saying that it's like

    one side is perfect, and the other side is horrible, or anything like this.

    I always do hate also

    the way that our culture tends to form these binaries, and they're always adversarial positions
    and all those, but never mind all that.

    It is something where, you know, the more I've learned

    about it, the simpler it gets, the more clear it gets, the more moral clarity I've had on this issue,
    and I can, like, I do understand, like, I, I know, like you go to the summer camp, and you're
    getting propaganda.

    As you go, whatever you're going, you're going to the synagogue you're getting

    propaganda.

    As you're hearing all this stuff, it's like scary, your whole fucking life.

    You go

    on birthright, and you go to birthright, and I remember, I remember what I was hearing about this
    as a kid, and I was like, well, yeah, as a younger person, I should say, but I was thinking this
    was kind of cool, and, you know, it sounds like, oh, this was before I even traveled anywhere.

    It sounded like a thing, like you might want to do, and then you learn about what it actually is,

    and it's like, oh, you go on essentially like Disney World of propaganda, and you get there,
    and you go on this ride, and you see how awesome is really culture is, and then you have the
    iOS soldiers there, and they, like, scare you with all kinds of ghost stories, and generally,
    like most of the people that I, I know who've done this, they have some kind of like,
    I'm putting giant air quotes on this, but simulated threat, because it's like, oh, we're worried
    today, we might, like something might happen, something might happen.

    And yeah, I, I sat, I believed

    in this stuff at one point in time, and I get how people, I get how people are taken in by it,
    but it fucking bothers me.

    Fucking, like, it is not fucking complicated.

    It's not fucking,

    and like, you don't, you take the best, most literal interpretation, because I just had somebody
    today on Facebook, say, you know, like, oh, well, I don't know what number he gave, but like 1700
    people were killed, and women were gang raped, and all this stuff.

    The gang raped thing, I'm not denying

    that it happened, but it definitely seems unclear, but there is definitely photographic and video
    evidence of IDF soldiers, IWF soldiers, raping Palestinians.

    So, you know, if you, if you say that rape

    is bad, rape is bad, right? It's not, it's not something that anyone should be doing.

    I don't think

    you could justify it in any way.

    Probably no justification for that.

    And then you go, step further,

    and you're like, well, okay, so it was, I mean, it's like the US with 9-11, you get a little,
    a little black eye, you got a little, like, blood on your face.

    And I'm had saying again, like 3,000

    lives is a lot of people, right? But, you kill a million people, you kill a million civilians.

    It's, it's, it's a little disproportionate.

    You spend millions of dollars and decades and destroy

    the, the remaining shreds of the constitution and lead us to, frankly, where we are now.

    A little disproportionate.

    That was not, that was not the greatest response.

    Similarly,

    October 7th, like, if you take the most, like, imagine that it wasn't, you know, it was a genuine
    surprise.

    BB didn't stand people down.

    It wasn't, like, a, a, a thing where we're kind of like,

    ah, well, that's something happened and then we'll use that as an excuse.

    Just say that it just

    happened and they were really good in the got-in.

    And still, it doesn't justify mass murder.

    Like, the official death counts at this point are, ah, I don't know, 60,000 and the most probable

    death counts that I've seen are in the, like, two thirds of a million, like, 600 plus thousand people.

    In a, in a population, it was formerly 2.2 million people.

    That's, that's a fucking huge number,

    by the way.

    You know, like, I, for the last couple of years, have been watching regularly,

    just some of the worst shit.

    Like, you know, you see the, the girl with the napalm girl and the,

    the famous photo.

    And there are a handful of photos like that.

    And, and those were, like, dramatic

    and horrible, and people, they, they changed people's minds a lot.

    I have on a daily basis,

    and I'm laughing about it because it's so fucking horrible.

    But on a fucking daily basis, I've seen

    the worst shit that I've ever, like, I, and ever even would have imagined it.

    And then I've seen, like, after thinking that I couldn't see anything worse, I'd see worse shit,

    still.

    It was, it fucking ridiculous.

    Like, and even by the time that my friend, former friend,

    former air quotes friend, and I stopped talking, now, which again, now, it's going to be two years
    and December, two years on the first, it'll be two years.

    And at the, at the time, I felt really

    shitty about it.

    And now, I feel like, you know, like, fuck you.

    Like, fuck you.

    What the fuck

    dude? And again, again, like, I do understand the propaganda and all this kind of stuff.

    But it was

    fucking clear, even then, if you were paying fucking attention, you know, like, this is not proportionate,
    this is not justifiable.

    And when you start learning more detail about it, it's even less justifiable.

    And also, also, you know, and I'm not saying, again, the seventh was good.

    But there is a duty to resist,

    like, literally an international law, when you're an occupied state, there is a duty to resist.

    And as a human being, you have the right to resistance.

    And, you know, the idea that somehow

    people fighting back a little bit on one day, you know, or fighting, you know, like, launching
    little improvised rockets and having, having them blown up by iron dome.

    And then doing the

    knocks on the roof and the mowing a lawn and all this other shit.

    Like, it's just, it's so disproportionate.

    It's so, you have, like, the pictures of kids throwing stones at tanks.

    And it's like, what we,

    you know, they're throwing stones at these tanks.

    We got to, we got to just kill them.

    We got to,

    that there's no other way.

    You got to, it's just, you know, like, how are we gonna, fuck you,

    fuck you, as what? But, you know, I saw, like, by that time, so many kids just, you know, blown up,
    and burned alive, and, like, in pieces of bodies.

    And so, like, just that the fucking most

    horrific shit, again, like, looking, using Vietnam as a, as a reference standard, like, a million times more
    than that.

    And I'm not saying that it was a million times worse.

    I'm just saying, like, the stuff that I saw,

    I'm sure, like, I've read about the atrocities there.

    There was some extraordinarily terrible shit,

    you know, like, I don't want to in any way, like, compare the two or diminish either one.

    Fucking terrible.

    But, in terms of what I've seen, like, personally seen with my own eyes,

    no comparison.

    And, you know, it's just, like, and this was, this was almost two years ago.

    This was, like, yeah, you think about, like, the stuff that I've seen since, and I think about,

    also, like, you know, a year ago, the Democrat, well, I guess it was a little bit more than a year ago,
    but the Democratic National Convention.

    And, like, at about the same time, coincidentally,

    about the same time, there was this picture of a girl whose body was blown up and just dangling
    from a wall, right? Around then also, I'm kind of, like, condensing time, but, you know, like,
    roughly the same time.

    Of the woman standing outside of the tent, watching her kids just getting

    bourbon, I think her three kids burned a life.

    She's helpless.

    She can't do fucking shit.

    She's

    wailing and watching this.

    And, juxtapose that with, I'm watching these assholes going in,

    talking about joy.

    Joy, joy.

    How much they feel, like, loving it.

    And, there's somebody reading

    names of kids who are murdered.

    And, these fucking assholes, and it's seared into my mind.

    I'm never

    going to forget this fucking shit.

    They're sitting there laughing.

    They're closing their ears with

    their fingers.

    And, like, and just, like, it's a fucking joke.

    And they're going in and talking

    about joy and talking about, you know, how you have to vote for, like, the other thing,
    a lot of shit is seared into my mind about that fucking election.

    But, you know, like, under me,

    we will have the most, or, I don't remember exactly, which she said it was like, the most lethal fighting
    force in the world.

    Like, yeah, I don't want the fucking most lethal fighting force in the world.

    I'm not a jingoistic person.

    Also, incidentally talking about the crisis at the border,

    all this other bullshit, which is not a thing.

    It's a, it's a fucking made up thing

    that their Republicans made up, and then they made, they created the problem, the imaginary
    problem, and now they're dealing with it, and an imaginary horrific way.

    And part of the reason

    they're able to get away with this stuff is because you provide, like, you're using the same
    fucking frame that they're using, which is a lie, and sitting there talking about how you're going
    to address it.

    And I see somebody fucking Democrats talking about this stuff too.

    I get, I get texts

    from these fucking people saying, like, well, this is how we're going to deal.

    We need to do this

    at the border.

    We need to do this to, and none of them are saying, like, there's no fucking

    crisis at the border.

    We need to essentially open things up and make it easy for people to

    emigrate.

    Like, it was when my grandfather came here, and I'm not saying that the things were

    perfect then, but, you know, like, when he came, literally just got on a boat, came over,
    made his way to Ellis Island, did some paperwork, and he's a citizen.

    Like, you know, it was

    not a big deal.

    And now it's fucking impossible.

    Like, I know so many people who got their

    pee, it came here, got their PhDs, wanted to stay here and couldn't.

    And I think about my friend,

    I was in dubious if I should use names or not, but I, I ever friend who was born in, uh,
    in her macio.

    And she and her brother, and I think they have another sibling, but they were, like,

    out of their age range or something.

    I don't know.

    I think they're going to older sibling.

    I don't

    know, never met that one.

    Or actually, I met them once at their mother's funeral years later,

    but, um, I still don't remember.

    I think it was a dude.

    It doesn't matter.

    It doesn't matter.

    But she and her, um, her other brother, uh, came here the same time, and something happened,

    and I think she had, like, a younger brother and older brother, and then she's in the middle.

    Something happened.

    I don't know what happened, but her documents got fucked up, and the other two

    siblings, citizens, everything's cool, everything's kosher, and then she was not.

    And she's,

    like, kind of deal for years with visa, and I think she's since been, uh, I've become a citizen,
    but at the deal with all this bullshit, lived your rural fucking life.

    I mean, she'd visited

    and she spoke Spanish, but it's like, you know, her macio is not where she's from, as far as she's
    concerned.

    It's like, you spend your whole life in the US speaking English, and, you know, surrounded

    by the culture and stuff.

    You basically, Eugen, I would say, um, she went to a wedding for cousin

    and her macio.

    And again, I don't know the details, but something got fucked up with her visa,

    and she couldn't get back to the US, and she had to be there for, like, months, months.

    And it

    legitimately looked like she was just gonna, like, that's it.

    She's not coming back.

    Like,

    that's, that's, that she's just done.

    Um, fortunately, or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it,

    um, the, the Senator McCain at the time, but it's a date on this.

    Um, somehow someone in her family

    or some friend knew him, and he was able to pull some strings and get her visa set up, and she was
    able to get back.

    But literally, like, three months or so stuck in her macio.

    Um, and it just, again,

    like, that her place, not, not her place.

    And it's, it's just so fucked up.

    Like, this is a person who's

    lived here her whole life.

    And basically, you know, like, you just think about that, this is one of

    many, many examples.

    And there are so many, and people are just so fucking in or just informed about it.

    And again, you don't have people making the case.

    And you have this party that completely

    fucking abandoned immigrants.

    They also incidentally completely abandoned trans people, uh, which,

    again, uh, made up problem that their Republicans just completely fabricated out of hold,
    hold, hold, hold, hold, hold, hold.

    And it shouldn't be something that is uniformly believed

    or any of this.

    But the Democrats are not providing a counterframe.

    They're not answering that.

    They're just going like, well, this, yeah, this is a, they're agreeing.

    This is a problem.

    This is

    what we're going to do.

    Or, you know, like in, in the case of Holocaust Harris, I'll follow the law

    was her quote.

    And of course, the law at the, the law that she's talking about, uh, is that in some

    states, it's basically like illegal to be trans.

    And that's the law that she's going to follow.

    And it was getting worse already.

    And she's going to follow the fucking law, like a, you fuck her,

    fuck her so much.

    And fuck the Democratic Party.

    And also, I say this, um, and I'm not saying this

    hyperbolicly, but for anyone that was like sitting there saying, oh, we have to put on our
    oxygen mask first.

    And we have to, you know, like genocide is bad, but, you know,

    no, genocide is the, it's basically the worst fucking thing.

    Right.

    I'm not saying it's the worst

    thing.

    Like there are things that are on a similar level, but it's fucking bad.

    You do not vote

    for fucking genocide.

    And the thing that pisses me off about this is that the reason that she kept going

    down that path and didn't change and feel the need to change is because you fucking assholes,
    didn't hold her to the fire, you told her that you're going to vote.

    And I see people already

    doing this now for the next cycle if there's a cycle.

    But, you know, like you're just sitting

    there saying like, oh, vote for vote blue no matter who.

    And have no standards.

    And like you

    went from in 2020, all these candidates sitting there and everybody, like even the ones that were
    the most rightish had some kind of a health care plan.

    They had some kind of a plan for the

    dreamers.

    They had some kind of, you know, like, I'm going to do this for the, and by or about the

    environmental catastrophe that's going on and all this kind of shit.

    And then 2024, and it's like

    she's arguing with fucking Trump over who's the biggest fracker, who's the biggest supporter of
    fracking.

    As the, the climate catastrophe is just getting worse and worse and things are accelerating

    faster than people expected.

    And we're already over 1.5 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels and

    all this shit.

    And she've been Trump are arguing in a debate over who is more pro-fraking.

    Like

    I just, and again, I blame her, but I also blame, and of course the party, all the fucking consultants
    and all this, but I also blame you.

    I fucking blame you if you were a person who told her and told

    the party, you told all these people, you will vote for her no matter what.

    Because when you declared that,

    all you were saying is that they don't have to do anything.

    They could be pro-genocide,

    they could be pro-fraking, they could be anti-immigrant, they could be anti-trans, they could do whatever
    the fuck, they could be anti-homeless, they could be against universal healthcare.

    And just sitting

    there for, well yeah, you're 401k is amazing, so the economy must be amazing.

    A lot of people

    fucking working like multiple jobs struggling not able to to make ends meet and not able to pay
    the bills, not able to pay rent and all this kind of shit.

    And there was a time where you could

    imagine a path to you work really hard and then you could eventually get a how this is,
    you know, the records of American dream and all this stuff, eventually get a house and you could
    have retirement and you know, and now like at this point for a lot of people that that's a ridiculous
    idea, a completely laughable idea.

    And you're not addressing that, you're not saying anything about it,

    you're just blaming people for their fucking avocado toast and that's the reason that they can't
    get ahead.

    Even though, you know, there was a time when like the boomers were going to college,

    where you could have a summer, the first off a lot of like the California schools before Reagan
    were free, people forget that, now they're fucking expensive.

    The Arizona universities were

    damn near free as the Constitution in the States says as nearly free as possible.

    Weasel words

    that they should not have put in there, but still they were very cheap.

    And now it's like 10

    grand a year to go plus for ASU.

    And it's just it's so fucking disgusting, like properly

    fucking disgusting.

    So anyway, the thing that I wanted to talk about, this is going to be an

    abridged one probably because I met my sister's place, mom and sister were getting their
    haircut and I generally speaking, I'm not here by myself, I don't have the opportunity to talk
    by myself or record one of these.

    So it's a rare kind of nice thing to be able to do.

    And as soon as they come back, I'm going to wrap up very quickly.

    So getting to the point, getting

    to the thing I wanted to talk about is Greta.

    Greta to in Berg just came back from her second trip on

    the flutilla, a second time being kidnapped by Israeli pirates on the high seas, sounds ridiculous
    but true.

    And Ben Gavir sitting there like laughing and talking about how he's going to treat

    people like terrorists.

    And so definitely also like accused terrorists, this is a whole, I need to

    make one of these about theory and philosophy of justice and all of this.

    But due process, the

    presumption of innocence, things like this, kind of matter.

    And the US of course, we don't, we

    nominally have a presumption of innocence, but as soon as you get arrested, unless you have a lot of
    money, you go to jail.

    Notice Trump never went to jail.

    But a lot of people go to like

    rikers, for example, if he was a poor guy, would have gone to rikers and could have rotted there
    for years and something that is a fucking hellhole where people die fairly regularly.

    He could

    it on that.

    And again, like if he was not fucking rich and not in the club, probably what would have

    happened to him.

    And instead, he just got this day at home and you're like just basically fucking

    nothing, no consequences.

    And everybody also, this is a little bit the last thing I thought about

    that for this time.

    But the Section 3 of the 14th Amendment is very clear for people who are

    insurrectionists and Section 5 tells you how to do this.

    A simple majority vote in the House

    of the Senate, which the Democrats had, they could have removed the ability for Trump to hold
    us.

    And that's just Trump.

    But the current speaker of the House and all the other insurrectionists,

    they could have knocked out a good 30 Republicans.

    They could have also expanded like given DC state

    hood and done a bunch of other things and reformed the courts.

    Although genocide, Joe after, after

    Dobbs overturned, Joe after after that said he didn't want to politicize the court.

    You know, like

    at the end of his term, he kind of nominally, if tried a little bit when he had no, didn't have
    Congress and had no ability to do it.

    But early on, cut it on it, should have that and didn't do it.

    And let Rogo away and let us get to the point where the Supreme Court has basically said that the

    president is a fucking God king.

    But anyway, I just wanted to talk very briefly about Grotto.

    And that too, like, focused too much on her, because it's all about the people in Palestine and

    the people in the Gaza and all that.

    But I do want to say, just they're her credit.

    Like,

    you look at this person.

    She's 22 and the stuff that she's done in her life.

    Now, grant that she's had

    privilege and a lot of opportunity and comes from some money and all the stuff.

    So she can do stuff

    that people can't do.

    But even so even so how many people when they were teenagers were that

    dedicated to the climate catastrophe, understanding, knowing and doing the right thing.

    She had such

    like absolute moral clarity on this issue.

    And then now, she's just fucking so good.

    And she's

    extremely clear also that it's like, it's not about me.

    It is about these people.

    It is about

    the shit that's happening to them.

    It's about the genocide.

    And it is also about our countries

    collectively not doing the right thing and not protecting them, not upholding international law
    or our own laws.

    And, you know, like basically going in and supporting this genocide.

    And she's

    done so much there.

    And I just like, Ben Gavir was talking about this and then apparently,

    like, as people, he's not going to do it himself, of course, because he's too far behind it.

    But he has people dragging her by the hair and beating her up and infesting her with fucking bedbugs.

    It's just disgusting horrible shit.

    And again, like she's not the focus too much on race here,

    but she's blonde and white and getting a much better deal than the Palestinians.

    And you think about, like, how fucked up what they did to her was.

    And I just keep thinking, though,

    like, they're released here.

    She gave her a speech.

    And you could just see, like, she was, she was already

    dedicated.

    She was already, like, on on the right page with this stuff.

    But this is not their

    fucker thought that he was going to scare her or shut her down or discourage her or something.

    Like, which tells you how much these fucking people are out of touch incidentally.

    But also, like, he thought that, and it's like, no, dude, you just fucked up.

    You fucked up so severely.

    Like, you gave her, you gave this person who already had moral clarity, a complete crystal clear

    picture of exactly who you are.

    Like, if she had any lingering doubts, you eradicated every single

    one of them.

    You got, like, she, she knows.

    She has no fucking doubt anymore.

    She has not a, a

    reason to think that maybe maybe it's not as bad as I think or maybe you know, maybe I'm getting
    a bad, you know, she got to see exactly this.

    And not only did she get to see it, the people who were

    in that prison because you put them in this, you know, fucking dungeon.

    They got to hear

    Palestinians screaming and crying and whaling.

    They got to, you know, like, they got to experience

    that.

    They got to see, like, oh, we are getting the privileged sort of like, uh, the bumpers are on

    and we got some padding.

    This is the fucked up version that we're getting.

    What the fuck are you guys

    doing to these people? What the fuck are you in addition to, of course, burning kids alive.

    You're

    like, like, the little things, blowing them up, dropping bombs that are meant for hardened targets.

    I'm goddamn, like, like, literally bunker buster bombs dropping them on tents with families in

    them that you've displaced and you keep moving around, like the fucking trail of tears over and over
    and over again.

    And, you know, like, you're, you're starving them to death.

    You're starting,

    and this is the thing also, like, these are people who literally are, like, citizens of,
    I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't know how many countries going around trying to get fucking
    baby formula in to the feed, starving kids.

    And this is a huge threat to you.

    These are the

    airports terrorists to you.

    Like, what the fuck? Like, if there was any, if there was any death,

    if there was any reason, and I don't know how anyone could get to this point and have any doubts,
    but you fucking eliminated them.

    And the thing also is, like, you could have, you could have

    left it be, like, her claim against yours, and she didn't even talk about it to be, you know,
    I was all there people talking about it, because she's, she's just kind of a fucking rockstar.

    I can't, like, 22.

    I mean, I'm blown away by this person, but, you know, like, she is,

    she's sitting there not even talking about it.

    Other people are telling us what happened,

    but it could have been their word against yours.

    And sort of, baby kind of tried,

    but then Gavir is like, fucking clear.

    Oh, yeah, oh, I did this.

    This is what we totally did this.

    And, you know, like, if you wanted to, yeah, I mean, I meant trying to pull, like,

    imagery from the fucking Holocaust, but, you know, it's like the guy running, uh,
    fucking Auschwitz, uh, bragging about it.

    Like, in case, in case you were trying to deny it,

    there's no fucking denying it now.

    There wasn't any denying it before, like, the stuff is

    document that is fuck, but still, you know, like, and then you have, like, Larry Ellison in this group,
    buying fucking TikTok, and these people are just so, like, the idea that they have of how things work,
    the idea that they have that, you know, like, oh, all we have to do is change the programming on TikTok,
    and then magically it will change people.

    No, people have seen what the fuck people are doing.

    Like, you know, I, I, I will never, I will never go back to thinking anything positive about

    the domestic rats ever again.

    I, I saw these people laughing.

    I saw them with their fingers in

    their ears, Lala line.

    I saw them vote for genocide and tell me that I had to vote for genocide.

    Like,

    I, I saw that shit.

    I saw Harris over and over and over again, uh, declaring her undying,

    unconditional, um, unwavering support for the country that was doing this, that was doing, and,
    and also, like, even, you go back before October 7th, like, it's easy to focus on the last two years.

    But, you know, you see, uh, what they've been doing for the last, like, 75 years,

    and this is fucking horrible.

    It's fucking horrible.

    And again, like, you know, you look at, like,

    South Africa, when they were still in a partite state, and you just understand, like, what that is,
    and, you know, you understand also, like, I mentioned it before, but like, I'm lowering the lawn.

    They're just, like, up there with sniper rifles, just taking people off, just like, yeah,

    we're gonna, so people are walking in their little, their open air prison, going about their business,
    and for all you know, somebody's got a bead on you, and you're just walking there, existing,
    trying to go about your everyday life, and then you get popped, right, or the knocks on the roof,
    you know, like, they toss something, and you're sitting in your place in your, uh, upstairs,
    and you gotta get the fuck out, because the next one that comes in is gonna blow your shit up.

    That was before October 7th, 2023.

    That was happening for a long fucking time.

    And it was also, again, well documented, like, everybody I know who actually went,

    not necessarily to, like, Jerusalem, but they went to, uh, Raza,
    at, at pretty fucking good, more, more clarity on this.

    They knew what the fuck was going on.

    Anyone who's actually dealt with and seen, like, just the, the lines that people have to go

    through, and the, the borders, and the walls, and all this kind of shit,
    is pretty clear.

    It's, it's not, like, there's any room for doubt, and there's less room for doubt now.

    There's just, it's, it's so fucking ridiculous.

    It's just, like, I can't,

    the, the idea that anyone now, two years into this thing, two years, and, you know,
    well, almost 80 into this thing.

    And when it's even the fucking UN is, is, is being clear.

    And I'm not saying the UN wasn't clear already, but UN has completely disintegrated this

    fucking Bernie Sanders finally called it.

    Although he did, he did, you know, he called it a war,

    and then talked about October 7th and a bunch of other bullshit.

    But he did, he did at least

    call it a genocide.

    I guess that's something, way late.

    The, the dude is fucking disappointed,

    so disappointed.

    But you know, like, he's still, he's talking about it.

    He's calling it a genocide.

    If you're at this stage, and you're not, and you have any room for doubt, that's a U-problem.

    It's a total U-problem.

    Now, I will say, being here at my mom and sister's place,

    they both watch PBS news and the local news and then CNN.

    They at least think,

    fuck, don't watch MSNBC.

    My uncle watches that.

    And that stuff is Fox News.

    Like, it's legitimately

    Fox News.

    Like, the fucking thing is, the people watching this shit, they know how bad Fox news is,

    right? They understand that.

    Somehow they don't know how bad MSNBC is.

    Like, and I will say, like,

    I remember, like, a decade and a half ago, I went to the gym and they'd have Fox News on,
    and it was just like, physically painful.

    Like, I had to get the fuck out of there.

    I couldn't,

    I could not be in the presence of those things.

    Or I'd go to the airport and it was on or something.

    And it would just, like, I need to get the fuck out.

    I need to escape, fight or flight.

    And now, I had, I've been at my uncles and MSNBC is on, which is funny also, because they got

    that Scarborough guy who is one of the contract on America, people, like the, the people.

    Like,

    it's kind of a tell, like the, the people that you're listening to are the right wingers.

    They're

    not, yeah.

    But MSNBC is the fucking same shit.

    It's totally the same shit.

    And if you don't see it,

    you might have been brainwashed a little bit.

    It's, it's, like, both of these calls,

    they're red in the blue mega.

    They have no fucking clue about themselves being in a cult,

    but they know, uh, quite clearly that the other people are, although they have pretty twisted ideas
    of, you know, like, what the other people are doing.

    It's, it's very fucked up.

    But they can't see it for

    themselves.

    They can't see, you know, they can't take a step back and go like, oh, oh,

    fucking pro wrestling, you know.

    It's, it's the same, like, it's literally the same programming,

    but swapping out names.

    Like, on one hand, and I'm not saying, like, Trump is legitimately

    fucking horrible.

    I don't want to in any way sound like I'm saying anything positive about them.

    But, you know, the Democrats going, like, oh, it's the most, you know, the most important election

    of your lifetime, and you have to vote for Holocaust Harris for genocide against Trump.

    And at the

    same time, at the same time, uh, Republicans are sitting there going, like, oh, whoa, you know,
    she's, she's a, she's a comedy.

    I fucking wish.

    I fucking wish.

    Like, if I fucking, when you know

    about like her dad and all this kind of shit, it's just so disappointing, it's actually like what
    the fuck, what the fuck? But, you know, like that, the way the Republicans talk about these people,
    the way that, and actually also, she was calling Trump like a communist dictator, like,
    again, I fucking wish.

    Come on, beat fucking serious.

    And she knows, like, she has zero

    plausible than I ability there.

    But, um, yeah, you like it, all these people, they see the other

    people in a cult, and they don't step back and realize they're also in a cult.

    They don't realize

    that this fucking shit is pro wrestling.

    It's completely, and I will say, like, in their defense,

    it took me a long time to get it.

    It took me, you know, a lot of steps to get to where I am.

    It wasn't like an overnight thing.

    It wasn't like I just woke up one day and I was like, oh shit.

    Yeah, it took a lot to get me there.

    So I understand it takes time and all of this.

    I do wish

    people get their fucking faster though.

    Although I will say at least, at least, I think I see some

    people kind of waking up.

    I wish it was faster.

    I wish that, and even though they're waking

    up, they're still kind of like in the same sort of thing.

    But they're getting a little bit

    closer, maybe.

    I hope.

    I hope.

    Again, like, the whole point of project 2025, and I see this a

    lot too, also people talking about, like, oh, what the Republicans are doing, and we have to
    all these same people that were using project 2025 to try to beat me over the head and try to
    explain why I had to vote for Holocaust terrorists, why I had to vote for genocide.

    I am familiar with

    the fucking thing.

    And what it was was not like the democratic version that they're trying to pass off

    for the next cycle, which is just like some bullet points in no plan.

    It was an extensive plan

    half a century plus in the making, and it basically had strategy and tactics to not only completely
    reform the, you know, all of our sort of bureaucratic processes, and essentially the regulatory
    state and everything in government.

    But basically, like, got everything, and then gain permanent power

    independent of future elections.

    There's literally like an explicitly stated objective in there.

    And people who were telling me about this stuff, they're like, oh, you know, you got it.

    You fuckers didn't read this shit.

    They're surprised by what's going on.

    It's like, it's literally

    like, right, fucking there.

    I wish, I don't know, I wish people fucking read shit or

    understand shit or, and you may say, like, well, Scott, why did, if you knew this stuff, why didn't you,
    there's some good fucking reasons for that, which is like, there's a slow train, and there's the fast
    train.

    Harris was the slower train, but still going to the same destination.

    The plan that you're never

    going to let any Republican ever win was ridiculous, it's fucking ridiculous.

    And again, like,

    I'm not going to vote for fucking genocide.

    I'm not, I understand how bad things are, but I also

    understand the history of this country.

    This is a country built on top of the graves of a genocide

    on a scale that would make Hitler blush, you know, and then slavery on top of that.

    And, you know,

    like, you just go through, and it literally, like, with Jim Crow and all this stuff, inspired Hitler,
    you know, it was not like a, it was not like this place was a great place to begin with.

    And you have all this stuff, and, you know, it's just, but I don't even want to get into it,

    but it's just fucking horrible.

    And, you know, I remember again, my friend, former friend,

    saying, you're like, oh, do you really want to give up this right-shining star, this, you know,
    that this is the second Republican in this country.

    France is at what the fifth Republican.

    I don't even, I've lost track.

    Yeah, they're at the fifth Republican.

    And their first

    Republican was not as old as ours.

    And their granddad was close, but, yeah, the first Republican

    was 1792.

    Yeah, so they're pretty close to ours, but now they're to five.

    Like, we're at two,

    we're past two, we're past two.

    And Trump, in the first term, already showed us, like, how many

    problems there are and how much our system is completely, just fundamentally, deeply broken,
    not just because of all of the legacy of racism and, you know, white nationalism and all of
    this other shit, but it's just deeply fundamentally broken, like the only system for preventing
    abusive presidential power for the longest time, and until recently, when it was just, it finally
    broke down, was basically just, like, decorum and, like, people are going to do the right thing
    and not, you know, just do whatever the fuck they want.

    And it turns out there were no real

    enforcement there.

    Similarly, the Supreme Court, which, again, like, dirt, um,

    judicial review, not actually a thing in the Constitution.

    It was just a power that they sort of

    grabbed for themselves and asserted, but, you know, that the Supreme Court itself, the robe,
    the priests, who get to decide if something is constitutional or not, they also, yeah, turns out,
    they can just make up the fucking rules, they have no ethical standards, they have no independent
    enforcement.

    And, you know, like, technically, nominally, I guess you can impeach a Supreme Court

    justice.

    You know how many times that's happened and the course of the United States?

    I give you a clue.

    It's not, it's not, uh, it's not a number that needs more than one finger,

    I think there was one that resigned under threat of impeachment and one was actually impeached.

    I don't even remember the details, but it was basically, like, essentially, essentially,

    not a thing that happens, um, and then you think about also, like, President's getting impeached.

    Even if fucking Nixon wasn't impeached, he resigned.

    You, you probably would have been impeached,

    and he should have been impeached.

    But, you know, like, the standards are basically not there.

    And that was at a time where people at least pretended that, you know, like, something mattered

    more than just partisanship and what team you're on.

    And now, you know, you think about it,

    like, how, I see people like sitting there talking about, like, how Trump needs to be impeached.

    And first of all, like, look at the fucking order of succession.

    Like, getting rid of him is not

    going to magically fix things.

    Yeah, it's not, it's just not.

    And you could say, like, oh, well,

    he's a demagogue and, um, you know, he's, he's a charismatic, but it doesn't fucking matter.

    Because they're already in power.

    They're, like, it doesn't matter what is approval rating is.

    It also incidentally, like, people talk about how shitty is from, here's approval rating is,

    well, his approval rating isn't that different than his first term.

    And also, it's not that different

    from Biden, uh, that roughly the same time or a little bit later.

    So, it's not exactly, like,

    and also, also, the approval rating doesn't, again, does not fucking matter.

    It doesn't matter.

    There's not, like, a thing where it's like, oh, well, the president doesn't have high enough

    approval.

    So now they're stripped of their powers.

    They're, it's like a vote of no confidence.

    They're like, we don't have that.

    There's no, there's no no confidence.

    There's no, there's essentially

    no way to remove these people.

    And there's also no independent enforcement.

    There's no ethical standards.

    You do kind of have, um, you know, some sort of standards for, like, uh, the parliamentarian

    is going to enforce that people are following the rules and in, in Congress, but at the same time,
    they can just make up the fucking rules, like it's not.

    It's not like, uh, there's some magic.

    They, people, a lot of people are surprised and are just slowly waking up to the fact that it's not,

    again, like, laws are not magical in kind Asians, where people just have to follow the rules.

    People can do whatever they want.

    And if there's no enforcement, if there's nothing stopping them

    from doing something bad, they can just do something bad.

    It turns out.

    It's actually,

    it should be fucking scary to you, especially considering the number of nuclear weapons
    on fucking ICBMs that this country has, should still just fuck out of you.

    The fact that we

    can, if we want to, just blow up ships in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico, uh, we could, we could,
    we could do that.

    We could just, or, or anywhere in the world, we could just send a drone.

    And somebody could be in their apartment on the other side of the world.

    And somebody can send

    one of these mixed master drones and just dice them and slice them.

    They could be at a cafe or

    something and just assassinate somebody.

    And, and you could just do that.

    With no, no trial, no conviction,

    nothing other than you just decide that you're going to do it.

    You could do it.

    And that's, that's,

    like, it, it's so fucked up when you think about it.

    Like, that just how easy it is to do so much harm.

    And how few rules there are.

    Anyway, I, I, I think I'm actually going to wrap this up,

    because I feel like I'm getting close to the time when, uh, I'm going to have no choice.

    And I want to, I want to have, I want to end it on a, um, sort of my own terms instead of like,

    oh, should I need to, I need to rush now.

    Uh, so what, what I do want to say at this point is,

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    I still have no fucking clue.

    I do know, like, after my last job, uh, a nine to five kind of thing

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    I said there, um, I, I can't do it.

    I physically cannot do it.

    Uh, it was excruciating.

    And, you know, the, the commute also, like, particularly, but the whole thing sucked.

    Um, and, and again, like, I understand that job was actually much better than the jobs that a lot of people have.

    Um, but still sucked.

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    you know, like, obviously, like, there are a lot of people that are in much worse places than I am.

    But I am really hoping that that becomes a path forward.

    No, because I, I just, I, I, I keep

    thinking about, like, I for so long have been trying so hard to, like, either raise money and work
    on my own stuff, which is what I kind of really want to do.

    Um, but, you know, like, it's so

    big excruciating, like, I know I'm very confident if I would have been, uh, a fucking liar and, like,
    a scam artist and a magician and just showed people like, oh, look at this magic.

    I could probably

    have gotten a lot of money a long time ago from VCs and just, like, bullshited people and been
    on ethical or or or if I wanted to build weapons, I could probably get money for that or I could work
    for, you know, the only jobs I've not applied for that I see come across are for, like,
    Raytheon and Northward Grumman and all this kind of stuff.

    I, I, I, I, I'm not going to do that.

    Uh, but it, those are the ones that seem to be, you know, in abundance, it's fucking annoying.

    Uh, but I, I really would like to find a way something sustainable that, let's me work on my own

    stuff, let's me make these, let's me have, you know, like, some freedom.

    I don't, I don't, like,

    I don't, like, I don't really want to be, like, rich.

    I just want to be comfortable.

    I want to be

    able to have my own space.

    I want to have autonomy is a very big thing for me and I want to be

    able to work on my own shit and I'm really hoping that that helps.

    So, um, if you're listening,

    if you made it this far in this, um, Patreon.com slash Sierra Mark Echo, um, Oscar November,
    Esmanor.

    And, you know, give what you can.

    Sign up for a subscription that would be extraordinarily

    awesome.

    Uh, also also, I guess I should say, if you are doing that, uh, and you're in the position

    to do that, go to fairshare.help, um, F-A-I-R-S-H-A-R-E.help, and give somebody to one of the mutual aid
    things there, either for someone in Palestine, somebody's family.

    There are a lot of them there.

    There are, like, a few hundred, uh, but there are also other ones for other people.

    And, if you go

    there, it will give you a random list and the one on top, just give somebody to that one, whoever it is,
    um, it'll be randomly selected for you and every time you refresh, it'll come up with a new one.

    Give them some money and kind of give me some money.

    I would, I would appreciate it.

    Not that I feel like we're asking for it, but, um, I don't want to be, I don't want to be in the

    situation.

    I really don't want to be in the situation where I just completely run out of money.

    Now, which I'm very close to.

    So with that, uh, thank you very much for listening and I greatly

    appreciate it as always.

    And, uh, thank you Greta.

    Um, like, I am truly moved, not only by you,

    but by the almost 500 other people on that flotilla and the other flotillas that have come before
    and the ones that are coming, the thing that's wild also was like, uh, this last one I understand
    because of the, the weather is about the last one that they could do in the year, uh, because it's just
    not navigable.

    And I still see people going out doing new ones, um, smaller groups, but still

    people are doing it.

    And unfortunately, I'm sure this is going to go on for a while and it would be

    nice if, you know, like, call your fucking Congress people wherever you are, call your representatives,
    call your, uh, your leadership and get them to do something.

    It would be fucking nice.

    It would be,

    like, kind of a good thing to stop a fucking genocide, you know, beyond the right side of that,
    that would be cool.

    Um, and then also also, um, this from, um, I think, I actually do have to wrap up.

    So, um, I was going to talk about Japan and, uh, the probable fascist Prime Minister coming up

    at, uh, that's, that's a, and they're horrible story for another time.

    Anyway, thanks as ever,

    and, uh, thank you Greta, thanks everybody on the flotilla and, uh, yeah, as ever,

    再见

    53 min
  • James Franken

    Indefensible Image via KABC/The Atlantic

    Episode Transcript

    there I'm Scott and this is Tangents.

    Well, I have a whole lot of stuff I need to do

    want to do and instead I'm just going to record another one of these.

    It is Saturday

    the 27th of September 2025 as I'm recording this and this morning, well, like an
    hour or two ago, I got a text message from, I don't even know if I want to go
    into the details of it, but it's from someone, well, it's not actually from
    Peggy Flanagan or Al Franken, but it's from an air quotes Al Franken in
    support of Peggy Flanagan.

    And of course it's a fundraiser and of course the

    fucking thing has a font that looks like, you know, some 1990s website bullshit.

    It's bad.

    But the thing I wanted to talk about, aside from just, you know, like, I

    can't imagine ever, ever giving another Democrat a fucking penny, but it is
    particularly wild to me that this party just continuously sends these fucking, well,
    I know the party is not a monolith and blah, blah, blah, blah.

    But people in this party

    continuously send these fucking messages from James Carvelle and Al Franken and
    people like this from with their quotes, obviously.

    But like, I, these are people

    you should be disassociating yourselves with.

    These are people like the absolute

    best interpretation of Al Franken, the best way that you could frame him is maybe
    he was unfairly maligned in blah, blah, blah.

    He was, he was not, by the way, I, you

    know, when it was just the first Republican who kind of took a picture that was
    kind of joking, although I think she was asleep, which is, it makes sense of
    the picture a little bit not great, but she obviously had some bias.

    So she had

    some incentive to misrepresent what happened and frame him in a sort of bad
    light.

    But then, I don't know, like it does another woman came forward and a lot of

    them had no such incentive.

    And you start, you know, at a certain point you

    start seeing a pattern and it's like pretty hard, pretty hard to determine that
    this person's not a sex past.

    And even also like our fucking culture, you know, and

    especially for older dudes, it's just fucking nomad, not normative.

    I don't know what

    I was getting.

    I had like nominal and then I tried to change it to normative and

    just like completely fucked up on the way out.

    But it's kind of normative for

    people to just be weird and gross.

    Like genocide, Joe doing his whole like sniffing

    women's hair and massaging their shoulders and all this stuff.

    And especially like

    little fucking kids, it's gross and it's weird and it's normal for people like that.

    It's not like, I mean, it's one of the strange things that so many people will defend

    this and I'm going to be like, oh, that's just, that's just you know, how people are.

    That's just not a big deal or it's gross.

    It's creepy.

    It's fucking weird.

    And you

    don't need to, you don't need to associate with these fucking people.

    Like I go back

    and forth on this a lot because not, not what I just said.

    I stand by all that.

    I'll

    Frank and you should just not be there.

    You know, like the, again, the best case in

    area, he was unfairly maligned and still some people have bad feelings about him.

    So maybe like don't send random spam messages out to everybody with somebody like

    reporting to be some, from somebody that, you know, you don't know, but at least some
    of us are going to feel pretty fucking weird about, feel a certain way about, similarly
    fucking Carvelle.

    And I mean, this guy, like everybody knows how horrible Reagan

    was.

    Everybody, I think it's pretty well established.

    Like people that are not political

    understand that Reagan was a terrible person and that he did all these terrible things.

    Clinton, don't Clinton, did a lot also.

    And I would argue almost certainly like sealed

    the deal made, made all the Reagan policies sort of bipartisan.

    He did his, air quotes

    well fair reform and all those other horrible things that really are sort of Reagan
    ask policies, but he brought them into the Democratic Party and made them just the standard
    the norm.

    And it is impossible to look at that and not consider the fact that James Carvelle

    got him there.

    He did, you know, he had a significant role in getting him elected.

    And

    you look at that in context.

    I don't know, and also like this guy has not been right about

    anything.

    Since he got lucky one time, but since then he's been, you know, elbow on the

    pulse and still for some reason, this asshole gets to chum around with the people in the
    fucking party and gets, again, like, to text message people.

    I mean, again, not with, again, again,

    again, but not with his name, not with, or not with thumb, like his actual text messaging, but
    you know, they're using his name, they're using his likeness to try to fundraise.

    And people

    give him fucking money.

    Obviously they give them fucking money because if they didn't give them

    fucking money, they wouldn't do it.

    I assume that they just would look at that and kind of go like,

    well, this is not really a good use of funds to spam people with somebody who's this bald
    buzzard looking guy who's, you know, they made, they used to make a big deal.

    They used to make a big

    deal out of how his wife was like this mirror image really conservative woman.

    And she was doing

    the same kind of job for Republicans.

    And it's so weird that the two of them could be together

    when they're so politically different.

    And that was a tell.

    That was a fucking tell.

    That was like,

    oh, wait, they're not so different.

    Oh, wait, they're actually the same fucking people doing the same

    thing.

    Either just market segmenting.

    And like, one is doing the red soda, one is doing the blue soda,

    and they're both, you know, they're both putting on the same show with slightly different audiences
    and for slightly different performers.

    And when you when you start seeing that,

    it's really difficult for me not to be just fucking infuriated by it.

    And also, I mean, I

    do two things.

    One, I never need to see or hear from this guy again.

    If you associate with

    either of these two fuggers, all it does is make me feel bad about you.

    And I don't mean

    like, I feel sorry for you.

    I mean, it makes me fucking despise you.

    It's like, you must be an absolute

    wretched piece of shit.

    If you have Carvelle, um, simping for you.

    And like, if you wouldn't be

    simping for you, but like, fronting for you, you have Carvelle's face on there going like,
    hey, give so and so, so money.

    So and so must be a terrible person.

    That's all I get out of that.

    Because I know you're a terrible person.

    And the be part here, the second part is, it kills me,

    fucking kills me that so many people pay so little attention that they don't know what terrible
    people these are.

    And, you know, they just, like, and again, I understand the argument with Frank,

    with Franklin that, oh, he was unfairly maligned.

    And so we've, we've forgiven him now.

    I haven't

    forgiven him.

    I don't think that he was unfairly maligned.

    And I, like, I don't know, I think,

    again, if it was just one and it was someone with an obvious bias and incentive, then maybe.

    But when you start having a pattern forming, and it's a lot, um, and some of them are not good

    stories.

    It's, you know, I, I think you could write somebody off.

    They're, they're,

    now, of course, it's even more complicated because you have, like, um, what's your name?
    Amy, clob, clob, clob, clob, char.

    I think, uh, who was one of the people who specifically

    torpedoed him.

    And he, she's also a terrible person.

    It's like, the whole thing.

    It's like,

    I kind of liken it in a weird way to Apple after jobs.

    Because jobs, I, and don't get me wrong.

    I enjoyed jobs.

    And when I was a kid, especially, I didn't know better.

    And he obviously didn't

    personally play a big role in my life.

    But I guess in this sort of parasolful sense, um, I didn't,

    yeah, I never idolized the guy, I never, I've never, I've never had, like, celebrities or people like
    this that I actually felt great about.

    Uh, but I did definitely, like, watch his, uh, keynotes.

    And he was always sort of there in the background, uh, just as a sort of cultural touchstone.

    And I would see, like, the Applads, and I would see all those other stuff, and, um, and so on and so

    forth.

    And from that stuff, I would think, um, how do you say? I don't know.

    I, I, I, I, I didn't think

    like great things about him, but I always was aware of him.

    And I always, I felt good enough

    things about him.

    I didn't think like terrible things about him.

    Uh, but he made Appl, this horribly

    dysfunctional company, uh, with a lot of real pathologies, kind of deeply entrenched in that.

    And, you know, you, you look at the, the next guy, Tony Fito, Fuddle.

    Have you said his name?

    And you look at Scott for, I'm, I'm fucking up all these people's names.

    I want to say it's

    forced all, forced all, and he's start looking at all of these, um, hair force one.

    I can't think

    of that.

    Craig Fuddle, Fuddle, I, I should know these people's names, but, um, all of these people

    basically, in this company, in the leadership roles, are terrible people.

    You know, jobs made

    an environment that terrible people throw, throw, thrived in.

    I don't even know the right

    conjugation of that word.

    Uh, but terrible people thrived in Appl.

    And when he died and left the

    vacuum, uh, and actually years before that, when it was obvious that he was on his way out,
    people started clamoring on top of each other to see who would get to the, to the top of the pile of
    assholes.

    And the fact that Tim Appl got to the top, uh, it tells you, wouldn't horrible fucking

    person, this guy is, would a absolute wretched piece of shit, this guy is, and, you know, like,
    I, I don't know, I, I don't have a specific, well, I could go off on Appl for a long time of
    the, I'll spare you that.

    But coming back to the Democrats, the domestic rats, this party is also

    just full of terrible fucking people, and it's all pathology, and it's all, like, awful people,
    doing awful things to each other and other people of course, but to each other, to try to get
    to the top of the stack of assholes.

    And, you know, you see this with, like, a game Jeffries,

    who I, I believe is actually worse than Pelosi, which, it seems like a impossible thing to be,
    somebody who would be prominent in that party and be worse than Pelosi.

    But he is, he, I absolutely,

    I think, is, I don't think it's like a controversial thing.

    When I, when I first started saying it,

    I always said it with some doubt and some trepidation.

    I guess, I was like, yeah, he seems worse than

    her.

    I think it's objectively he is worse than she is, and more fackless and just, like,

    I don't know, these people, it's the most frustrating thing to me, because we absolutely need,
    and again, I, I'm not, like, a huge believer in electoral politics and all of this kind of stuff.

    To the extent that the system exists as the system exists, there are certain paths to doing stuff

    and to accomplishing certain things, and to defending against fascism and so on and so forth.

    And we could really use a strong organization that is in a position to actually fight right now,

    and we could really badly use a strong organization prior to now that could have gotten us things
    like universal healthcare.

    It could have gotten us things like, I don't know, do improvements to

    how horribly fucked up our immigration system is, how, you know, horribly overfunded our military
    is, and the police, and so on.

    And instead, we've got this false, pro-gressor-registering,

    combatant, the blue maga, to the red maga, the blue party, to the red party.

    And they're basically the same thing.

    They're basically just market segments of the same thing.

    They're really more collaborators, and it doesn't have to be like this big conspiracy,

    like, oh, there's somebody behind the scenes pulling, but it's sort of, I would say more,
    just you have a bunch of people in a field, the field being money from billionaires and
    oligarchs, and the culture as it is, and so on.

    And that causes a kind of alignment with people,

    and you get the sort of conspiracy without conspirators.

    There may be also more elaborate things,

    but that's all you need.

    You don't need an actual conspiracy.

    You just need a bunch of people

    getting paid by the same people with similar motivations under the similar circumstances.

    And then

    they start acting in a way that feels coordinated and is definitely not helping.

    But I don't know,

    you look at this, and it's like, I saw somebody joking about Jeffrey, joking about him and said,
    you know, like, we're sending us strongly worded letter, and then he tweeted, I think it was tweeting,
    that they sent the letter to Trump any ignored it, and it's like, what, what, like, Motherfucker,
    and then these people also, chuckles is particularly horrible about it, but the lot of them,
    really, we'll sit there and they'll make social media posts about how horrible Trump is and how
    horrible all these things are and blah, blah, blah.

    It's like, yeah, this is some, this is really a

    big thing, this is really bad.

    Somebody with some power should maybe do something.

    I'm just an

    asshole sitting in a hotel room talking to myself, you know, I'm just a guy with some internet
    accounts and, you know, I'm on social media, but I have zero power, really no money, I have no
    influence over anything or anyone of any, any significance.

    You're not fucking senator, right?

    You're a guy that I'm sitting senator and you've been a senator for so long, you know all the
    levers of power, you know where all the bodies are buried, all this stuff, and, you know,
    it's like the fact that they just sit there and muggly think this is like a show and it's not,
    the legitimately, I think these people probably have one day end up getting carted off,
    and when they do, they will have, it'll be a shock to them.

    It'll be like, oh, wait,

    what the fuck is going on? This is just a show we're not supposed to, because they don't have
    a fucking clue.

    It's not just that they're complicit, it's not just that they're actively

    collaborating, but they're also so detached, they're so isolated and bubbled and outside of the
    field of consequences, the realm of like any kind of things actually affect them, that they don't
    recognize the situation that we're actually at, and they see stuff, and they kind of like,
    I mean, the, the most remarkable and extraordinary version of this is you go back to what was
    a January 6th, and they had a fucking gallows out there, right? They were trying, they were talking
    about and trying to actually straight up murder people, and you watched this from your offices
    in your hardened places, and you got, got removed.

    How, how does the fuck do you see that and not

    think like you're actually in danger from these people? And it's just, it's, it's bizarre to me.

    It's just, how do you not go like, oh, well, shit, if things didn't go well, things might get

    really, really bad, and somehow still, you know, they think this is just a show, the thing
    it's just a, oh, this is not a, not a big deal, we don't have to worry about it.

    It's just kind of a

    fun thing, and yeah, it's, it's a roller coaster, and this is just for the, for the plebians to kind
    of see, but we know that we're actually okay and blah, blah, blah, blah, you don't know that, you
    actually don't know that, which is the most ridiculous thing about it, because I understand acting in
    your own self-interest.

    I understand, like, you know, your donors and your investments benefit

    from the current situation, and so you don't have any real incentive to fight it.

    I understand

    all of this kind of stuff.

    What I don't understand is like, you got people like straight up trying

    to kill you openly, and, you know, they don't, you feel a little bit of a preservation instinct,
    don't you feel like the, the need to maybe, maybe this is actually serious.

    Maybe this is not just

    the normal, and flow that you've experienced for your whole life.

    Maybe this is not, like, you know,

    just fucking show.

    It's weird to me, it's just weird to me.

    And I mean, it gets back to these fundraising

    emails, which, you know, it discussed me that there's no way to globally opt out of act blue,
    and what is it called, the action network, because I do not want any of your shit.

    I don't want

    your spam.

    I'm not gonna, it's, it's wasted on me as well, but it actively annoys me.

    But I can't,

    I can't opt out of it.

    I can't say, I just don't want this stuff, stop unsubscribe me, or rather than unsubscribe.

    Put me on a do not fucking spam list.

    That's what I really want.

    It's great, by the way, also,

    that the people who benefit from that system are the ones who would be responsible for creating
    a system that, you know, the regulations that would prevent that sort of thing from happening.

    This is, this is one of many ways where the founders were just fucking assholes, and, like,

    had such little imagination.

    Let me fair it.

    They're one of the first people, or groups of people,

    actually, like, implementing something like this.

    So it's understandable that the second

    museum would not be perfect.

    That means just the fact that they had the first one and didn't

    quite work out so well.

    They had to replace it.

    It tells you something.

    But they stuck with this thing

    for so long, and there are so many things that are just obvious flaws in it.

    Not just that there's

    no enforcement of, you know, like, like, that you see people like, oh, that's illegal.

    You can't do

    that.

    Who's going to stop? Who's going to stop them? Literally the way it's set up is that you have

    the executive branch that is enforcing stuff.

    And if the executive branch is not enforcing stuff

    against themselves, because why would they? But there's no real consequence who's going to stop
    Congress is certainly not stopping them.

    The Supreme Court is not stopping them.

    They're all

    they're all aligned.

    They're all of a part of the same thing.

    It's just wild.

    And a lot of the

    stuff also, I mean, Trump, this is another one of many things that irritates me.

    But Trump showed

    in his first term how much of what the limits on presidential power are really just come down to people
    have to quorum.

    You know, people they're not going to just be sober isn't.

    They're not going to be

    so bold.

    They're not going to just do whatever.

    They have some kind of a sense of vague, something like

    honor and decency.

    And when you take those things away and you let somebody do whatever the

    fuck they want to do, it's it's remarkable how much it does not matter.

    How much there's just no

    external enforcement.

    How much of a just sham your your fucking system is.

    This is stuff you should be

    taking notes on.

    And in a functional system, as soon as Trump got out of power in 2020, the Democrats

    should have the very first item on the agenda before anything else should have been okay.

    This was all

    fucked up.

    We saw all these problems and we need to shore everything up.

    We need to really build

    in safeguards.

    We need to limit presidential power.

    We need to do all this stuff.

    And the fact that

    they didn't do that, like many things have gotten me to the point where I just am not a member of that
    party and I don't think that that party in any way represents me or aligns with me or anything.

    But one of the first ones was watching that shit, watching Pelosi actively fight against Rashida.

    Rashida is like, oh, we're going to impeach the motherfucker.

    And then Pelosi drags your heels

    and won't allow that to go forward until finally she basically was compelled.

    Like she had no choice.

    You know, you look back and you can remember it and it seems all like, oh, Rashida said this

    and then they impeached it.

    No, there was a huge gap between the two.

    And Pelosi made it very

    clear she did not want to impeach the motherfucker.

    And she also, you know, like when she did

    finally let the impeachment go through, not that she had much of a choice.

    It was like one of

    these situations where so many people were there that she just couldn't stop it.

    But when it went

    through, she arbitrarily limited the scope and the duration of the impeachment hearings.

    And

    basically, you know, put the balls off of the people that were doing it.

    And so, you know, you

    look at that and it's just like, you're the fucking resistance, you're the ones that are, and
    again, I'm not saying that you have to be like, you know, you've had a great life.

    You've been in

    office for so long.

    You're a multi-hundred millionaire.

    Why don't you just fucking retire? Why don't

    you just step down and let somebody else take over? And of course, when she finally did that,
    which, you know, I mean, there are layers here.

    When she finally did give it the Jeffries,

    she didn't do that when he would have been in any kind of actual power.

    She did it when he was

    going to be in the minority leadership role, which is perfect.

    It says a lot about her.

    And I'm not, I'm not a fan of Jeffries, but I'm also not a fan of the low seas and you look at

    what Pelosi did to her protege.

    It says something, you know, it's like, but these people are taking

    up the space that we need for somebody to actually be resistant.

    They're taking up the levers of

    power.

    They're holding with this death grip, the things, the instruments that we could be using

    to actually do something.

    And you watch them and, like, you listen to these people,

    you lagerizing fucking Christophe ashes, wait, not nationalists.

    It's just wild,

    making a day for them, you know, honoring them.

    Like, what the fuck? What the fuck?

    And you see this.

    And they, to them, they, like, aside from the fact that they just, if you go back

    and you've talked about this many times, but I'm, it bears endless repetition.

    Now, Hillary got Trump denomination.

    You know, they always wanted Trump.

    Google that,

    search for it, and look for the Atlantic, the Hill, New York Times, Washington Post, and you just go
    down the list.

    All these publications thought about it.

    She had this thing called Pied Piper,

    and they, and their infinite wisdom knew absolutely new, because they played 10-dimensional
    chess and all those bullshit.

    New, that if Trump got the nomination, he couldn't possibly win,

    and she could just, like, waltz into the way, into the wayhouse.

    And because it was her turn.

    And it turned out that wasn't right, because it turns out she just knew what the fuck she's doing.

    She has all these terrible advisors who, incidentally, every time they lose a campaign,

    the consultants keep their jobs.

    They get to, you know, like, it's somewhere where these

    pundits, they can be wrong endlessly, they can do terrible things, but somehow they never face
    any consequences.

    Even if the candidates themselves don't get their just run endlessly,

    the consultants that are running their campaigns and doing all those kind of stuff,
    and the multi-billion dollar or your electoral industry faces zero consequences.

    They, I mean,

    like, imagine that you're selling something, any kind of product, widgets, whatever,
    and those widgets don't actually do the thing that they're supposed to do, and they explode instead
    and hurt you.

    You would think that the company making those widgets would go out of business,

    or would at least change, or something, but no, instead what happens is you have the same people
    making the same widgets, and they sit there a year after year, and people keep buying the fucking
    widgets.

    They don't even, like, retool.

    They don't even go like, you, and then they do occasionally

    have like a meeting, and it's like, oh, we have to go further to the right.

    We have to go more

    after the Republicans who are never going to vote for fucking Democrats, and we have to alienate
    more of the base, and remove any kind of leftish policies or anything.

    It's wild.

    It's fucking wild.

    And you look at that, and you see, like, and again, I don't think electoral politics is getting

    us out of here, especially it's weird because when you go back to the election, so many people
    were talking about projects 2025, and I don't know if they didn't read it, or they don't understand
    what's in there or what, but the fucking thing, it's not just like a mission statement and a
    little, like, a couple bullet point lists of things that they wanted to do, or like, in specific policies,
    it was a large-scale strategic and tactical plan of how to completely reform the U.S.

    government

    in a way that would give them permanent power, independent of future elections, and basically to
    gut systems and then repurpose the vestiges of those systems to their own ends.

    And they've done it.

    They've been doing it.

    They've, you know, like, that's what the fuck they're doing.

    And you have these

    people that are like, oh, we're just, we'll just use this and we'll fundraise off of it and then
    we'll win in 2026 and like, and then what, are you all, and then you want to win in 2028, but with
    somebody who's just, like, not an actual opponent to anything, like, in a literal, ffking fascist,
    anti-homeless guy like Newsom, or or Buttigieg, or let's, let's get fucking, uh, Harris back in there.

    Like, are you kidding me? Are you fucking kidding me? I, and I don't know, I just, I've

    looked at this stuff, and I see where we are, and I see the complete lack of, it's not just a
    lack of any kind of action, but like, a lack of even the thought, like, there's no ideation for any kind
    of resistance.

    There's no, like, what could we do? What, what are the things we could actually

    do? And you do see, like, I mean, to be fair.

    Occasionally, there's like, uh, some states,

    legislator, who has a couple of Democrats that are actually doing something, but for the most part,
    those are rare and exceptional, and, you know, at an national level, it's just, does not exist,
    and any significant power or significant, you know, amount.

    And you just look at that, and it's like,

    what, I don't know, even, here's the thing for me.

    This is the step back a second.

    I think, uh,

    and I don't want to make this sound like it's going to be easy or like it'll be good or there won't
    be any horrible things happening.

    I think in the end, um, things get better.

    I think in the end,

    fascism is defeated, and, you know, we have universal healthcare, and we actually
    have sustainable, you know, energy, and we have walkable cities with public trends at
    knowledge, kind of stuff.

    I think that happens.

    Uh, the problem is, how do you get there? I think,

    I think, you know, like, healthcare gets to be a thing and, uh, vaccinations and preventative medicine
    and public health and all this kind of stuff and public education.

    I think those things actually

    happen.

    The problem is, you know, could we just skip to the good part? Now, we have to go through

    this horrible fucking thing that will last God knows how long.

    You know, years is probably

    optimistic decades is more realistic.

    And, you know, you just look at, like, get, could we just,

    like, there are, there are genuinely urgent things that need to be done, like, right fucking now.

    And again, like, you have these people who even when they had power, um, and this is another

    thing that I find it infuriating, but like, even when the Democrats had power, uh, they didn't
    actually do anything about the climate catastrophe.

    They're just, and, but Scott, you're not,

    you're not, you're not being fair, you're not understanding.

    He did the inflation reduction act

    in blah, blah, blah.

    No, if you actually look at those things, and this is one thing that just

    pisses me off, because I know you're not actually a, you don't care, because if you care,
    you actually look at, end of these things, and be, you're not actually looking into these things,
    because if you actually look at what's in there, it's like there are a couple of bullet point
    things that kind of sound good that they sort of lifted from the green new deal, um, at a high level,
    but they're not actually doing the bulk of those, what they're actually doing is giving billions and
    billions of dollars to various private companies, often just coincidentally, who happened to be
    campaign donors, you know, often who coincidentally, uh, our our our feeding money into the system,
    and benefiting the people that that set this stop up.

    And, you know, you, you actually look at

    that, like, it was such a thing in Biden's one term that everything that he did that would get
    these Biden wins bullet points.

    You actually go into it, and it was a sham.

    It was like,

    like, the student loan thing, you know, this is a person who is largely responsible for the
    inability to dismiss student loans in bankruptcy, and he made the problem, he made it worse,
    and he made it, you know, like, very difficult to get out of.

    This guy did these tiny little

    forgiveness things when he could have done much more, um, and I know, like, you'll get into an
    argument with people, and I'll be like, oh, but Scott, the Supreme Court, you know, if you actually,
    he could have done much more, just zero doubt.

    Like, I, I don't even want to discuss this,

    but he did this fucking nothing, and it did help people, like, it certainly helped a few
    percent of people, but when you look at what it actually did, in terms of the long term,
    um, like, progress of total student loan debt, and, you know, like, the burden that that place
    is on people, it made it a little notch, and then it went right back to where it was, like,
    did absolutely fucking nothing.

    Just very much like, um, if you go to the ACA, prior to the ACA,

    you know, you see the progress of how much, um, air quotes healthcare is costing per capita,
    or by any metric you like, and it's going up and up and up and up and up and up and up, and then
    the ACA makes this little tiny bump down, you know, and then it just goes back up to the trend,
    to the historical trend.

    Like, you basically, congratulations, you've been basically did nothing

    in the long term, and you did something, like, one of the things, part of the nothing,
    part of the reason that I find it fucking infuriating, is when you do nothing in this kind of form,
    it's not just that you're doing nothing now, but now you've kind of inoculated people
    with this notion that there's nothing to be done, or that there's nothing that can help,
    or blah, blah, blah, blah, and so you've got people thinking, well, the ACA sucks, so we should try
    something else, and that the most wild and ridiculous thing about that, that not that just pitch
    about the ACA, but the most wild and ridiculous thing about that is, like, I continue to this day
    to see people say shit, like, we just need a free market, we need to let loose the free market,
    and then it'll magically fix things.

    I just like that, do you not understand the healthcare.gov

    is literally called the healthcare marketplace? Like, the ACA is Romney Care.

    It is, you know,

    the Projects 2025 Heritage Foundations Plan, and giant air quotes, market-based plan for insurance,
    and it's also, in addition to just being written by and for the insurance industry,
    it's just, it's just wild.

    It annoys the shit out of me, like, people have such a disconnect,

    and part of the reason they have this disconnect is that there's nobody on the national stage
    really giving you, like, any kind of opposition to the framing of, like, oh, there's a crisis on the
    border, that there's not a crisis on the border, but you hear people saying this, and you hear people,
    you hear the Republicans saying it and talking about how they're going to fix it, and then you hear
    Democrats talking about it, and how they're going to fix it.

    And nobody's going, there's actually

    no fucking crisis on the border.

    There's actually, this is, and it made up problem that does not

    similarly trans people.

    Like, I just wrote a article today actually by a friend coincidentally,

    and this is about how a lot of the anti-trans stuff is actually funded by the fossil fuel industry,
    which is one of those things like, I didn't know, but it's kind of not shocking when you think about it.

    It's a nice distraction.

    It's nice to have a scapegoat that you can point to, and you can say,

    like, oh, all your problems are coming from this group that has no entrenched power, and, you know,
    they're a little, if you don't know, and they're like a little weird, and they're a little different
    looking, and they're easy to kind of point to, and, you know, and of course, like a lot of
    trans people, you would not clock, right? But some of them are clockable, and some of them are, you know,
    obvious, and kind of look a little bit different to people, and so they're easy to sort of point
    fingers to, and that's where you end up getting the sort of like scapegoating, and again,
    there's no counter-framing.

    There's no counter-framing to, you know, I mean, fucking Biden,

    just to keep going back to the sky.

    But fucking Biden was like, talking about how, if we raise taxes,

    then that will hurt the middle class in blah, blah, blah, blah.

    The idea of raising taxes,

    if you actually look at like the way taxes are structured, you don't have to, you can lower taxes
    on the middle class.

    You could also, you know, and this, this one is particularly infuriating,

    but, well, actually, before I begin to bet, you can raise the, like, eliminate the top income
    limit for social security, and get rid of the weird distinction between earned income and investment
    income.

    You could do a lot of things, and shave money off of the top.

    You could go back to, I mean,

    personally, I would have tax brackets that are very high when you start getting very high.

    So any income over a certain number of millions of dollars, you get basically like 99% tax,

    or like something, so the huge, that would be nice.

    But, and end also have a wealth tax and stuff like

    this to sort of renormalize things a little bit that never mind that now you get.

    Instead,

    we have to focus on the trans people or the immigrants.

    It's all the immigrants fault.

    It's all

    so-and-so is fault.

    It's not.

    It's definitely not the billionaires.

    Don't look at the people behind

    the curtain.

    Look over there, it's, it's those people with zero power who are already marginalized,

    who are already facing massive consequences.

    It's definitely not the old white dudes,

    the rich old white dudes.

    It's this black and brown people that have no power.

    They're the ones

    that you should be blaming.

    And it's just fucking annoying and infuriating that, you know,

    I get like the Republicans, we already know they're awful.

    It's not shocking that they're

    doing this kind of stuff.

    But again, the Democrats are aligned with this and they're operating

    within the same framing.

    And because they do that, there's no real counter and they're both

    essentially reinforcing the same complete bullshit ideas.

    And it's just like, I don't know, it is so

    fucking frustrating.

    Like, I don't, I'm repeating myself here, I know, but I don't know what

    else to say.

    It's just like, how the fuck do we get out of this shit? And why the fuck can you guys

    either A get it, what, why can't you not either A get it together? And start actually going like,
    hey, actually, this is, you know, actually, a look at education is good.

    Actually vaccines are good.

    Actually, this and then explain that stuff.

    You have, you have the ability to do this and you don't

    do it.

    And it just lets people who are terrible define everything.

    And, you know, and it just,

    I don't know, this is how you get to this point where someone like, like, anti-vax junior
    can be taken seriously.

    Because you have very few people actually providing like actual counterframe

    or another frame or better information or so on.

    Now, and then you have, as long as I'm talking

    about this, getting back to the fucking genocide, Joe and Uginics, Joe, you know, one of the reasons
    RFK junior is so successful right now, as, you know, and it's a pretty big fucking thing,
    is that Biden sat there.

    And he didn't want to do a lot of stuff and also his donors and blah,

    then want to keep all of the pandemic protections going.

    So they came up with this idea that was like,

    oh, well, if you get vaccinated, then you can just take off the mask, right? It's either either
    be vaccinated or wear a mask.

    And this is the most ass-in-ion ridiculous shit that the actual

    answer, by the way, is A, you don't vaccinate individuals, you vaccinate populations, vaccines
    work very well, but vaccines don't magically, it's not a magical personal shield, right?
    The vaccine protects you by having enough people in the population vaccinated that things can't
    propagate very well.

    And because they can't propagate very well, you have herd immunity.

    Now,

    you're protected even if the vaccine wouldn't necessarily individually protect you.

    And vaccines

    like really good vaccines protect you against like 70%, 80% of the time, maybe even 90% of
    infections, but you know, that not 100%, they're not magical perfect things.

    There are very few

    cases where vaccines work like that, but Biden sold it like that.

    And so, you know, I can explain

    to a little fucking kid, Swiss cheese.

    You know, the vaccine is a slice of Swiss cheese that has

    holes in it.

    And it gives you good protection, but it's not perfect.

    And you wear a fucking mask,

    and it's also a piece of Swiss cheese that has holes in it.

    And it gives you a certain amount of

    protection.

    And you put those two layers on top of each other.

    And now you've got, you know, fewer places

    where the two holes overlap.

    And then you added that like actual public health measures,

    actual things like, I don't know, the testing and tracing and isolation when people are exposed.

    When you start putting these things together, you can actually really just clamp down on this.

    And we could eliminate it.

    It's just, it's frustrating.

    We could basically fucking eliminate

    even to this day, as much harder as it would be because it's had so much opportunity to evolve.

    And it's gotten so much better.

    And so much more immune invasive and so much more

    able to evade vaccines and all those kind of stuff.

    We could still today with improved

    indoor air quality, with people wearing a mask when, you know, when necessary.

    And, you know,

    more vaccinations and actually testing and tracing and isolating people when they're exposed.

    Until they have, you know, like confirmed negative tests and blah, blah.

    We could, we could basically

    like zero the shit out.

    You know, there would be like a trickle still remaining, but it would be

    very, very rare.

    And, you know, it would occasionally, you'd have an outbreak, and then you'd

    contain the outbreak.

    But instead, it's this raging inferno that is just never going to fucking stop

    because we're not doing anything about it.

    And getting back to the, the Biden thing, because

    he sold this idea that the vaccines are magical personal shields, which they again are not.

    Because he sold that, people looked at that and they saw people getting vaccinated and still

    getting sick.

    And so they went, oh, the vaccines don't actually work.

    And this is what happens when

    you let people who either have an agenda or in his case probably just legitimately don't fucking
    understand things.

    So bad ideas.

    You get people hearing something that's incorrect.

    And then

    learning, oh, they're lying to me.

    And then concluding, not unreasonably, not unreasonably,

    that, oh, they must be wrong about these and they don't actually work.

    Not that they don't actually

    work, by the way, it's that they don't work the way that, that he was saying, but it doesn't matter
    because people don't have the basic, basic training in public health or science or understanding
    of these things.

    You know, I mean, as long as I'm talking about this stuff, like people don't

    understand the mRNA messenger RNA is just literally what comes in each of ourselves.

    It's first

    transcribed from the DNA in the nucleus of yourself out to express genes and genes are like,
    there's little cassettes that are in your cells and you want to make something that does
    something.

    So you express that stuff.

    It gets first transcribed from DNA to single-trained ad RNA,

    which is best in ger RNA.

    And, you know, edited in some other stuff happens.

    And then it gets

    pushed out of the nucleus and then it gets translated into protein.

    Now, again, there's more detail

    from that, but that's like the basic just of it.

    People don't understand that.

    And so they see

    somebody talking about, it's mRNA, it's scary.

    It's fucking infuriating from many, many perspectives

    here.

    But one of them is just mRNA is literally what makes you live right now.

    If you got rid of

    holy mRNA in your body, you would be dead soon.

    Similarly, also, you know, coronaviruses are

    single-stranded positive-sense RNA viruses.

    But genome for the virus is itself a single-strand

    of positive-sense meaning it can be directly translated into protein.

    RNA, which means it's

    is mRNA.

    Like the genome of the virus, if you get infected, you're making a bunch of viral

    mRNA, literally.

    That's how it fucking works.

    But you don't explain that to people.

    You don't do

    like the basic thing of using this opportunity to educate people about public health, about viruses,
    about basics of biology and how things work and all this kind of stuff.

    And because you don't

    do that, it's all scary to people.

    They don't know.

    And then they hear somebody who acts like they're

    authoritative and acts like they know what the fuck they're talking about telling you, oh, you don't
    want to do that.

    It's going to be scary and dangerous and bad.

    And again, when you have one person

    from a platform saying that, and you have no one else explaining to you the actual thing.

    Part of this is also like public health messaging is fucking terrible.

    People don't understand

    how important it is.

    And they like to oversumplify things and they don't like to tell people,

    they kind of assume people are not very smart.

    And by assuming that and leaving shit out.

    And

    trying to oversumplify things, you're really just fomenting a distrust in this stuff.

    It's one of the reasons I think the experts are not trusted is that people are not explaining

    shit.

    Like people are not doing a good job of explaining.

    Like just the Swiss cheese thing,

    just the mRNA thing, the DNA to RNA to protein thing.

    Just what is viral, you know, like what is

    a virus even.

    Take that opportunity and explain it to people.

    Take that opportunity and show

    people over and over again how the shit works, what it is.

    And then you can't have people like

    fucking anti-vex junior.

    Take hold because people will be inoculated, not coincidentally,

    against that disinformation.

    They will have the ability to actually understand and contextualize

    and interpret rather than having to have somebody tell them, oh no, he's just wrong.

    Why is

    you wrong? Why are you? And it's this weird kind of like paternalistic idea that people,
    I don't know, they think that people in general are not that smart or not that will informed.

    And partly it's true that they're not that well informed, though that's partly your fault

    because your education system sucks.

    But people can figure things out, people can understand shit.

    And also, you know, if you explain stuff to people in very simple terms and you give enough

    out there, maybe person X doesn't figure it up.

    Maybe they don't quite get it initially.

    But person Y can and when person Y does it, they can explain it to person X.

    If they're friends,

    they can go in and they can kind of say like, oh, you know, this is how it actually works and they
    can do a better job of, you know, dialing that in for them and also reinforcing how it actually
    works for themselves because you never understand something as well as you do when you teach it to
    somebody.

    So just the whole thing is just like fucking annoying.

    It's just so fucking annoying.

    Because whether it's public health, whether it's like how government works or what government

    does or, you know, just talking to people about how fucked over they are with with healthcare,
    with the lack of public transit, with the lack of walkable cities.

    This kind of shit.

    If you explain that shit to people and showed them and then said, hey, we're going to, you know,

    it sucks that your country doesn't have any high speed trends that are worth the damn.

    But we're actually, this is what it's like in other countries.

    They have six weeks of vacation

    it's kind of standard.

    They have the ability to go from one city to the next without having to,

    you know, like basically feel like third glass citizens on a bus.

    They can just do that.

    They can just go and it's comfortable and it's cool and it's nice and it's easy.

    And you could have that too.

    You could have that too.

    You should be pissed off that you don't have it

    and you can have it too.

    You should be pissed off that medical bankruptcy is a thing and you could

    have actual universal healthcare too.

    And if people would just have this shit explained to

    them and have a lot of people consistently explain it to them, then we would be in such a better
    position.

    And it's just fucking frustrating that people are not doing this.

    And when I say people,

    I mean the fucking Democrats because it's the, these are the ones that are in the position to
    actually do something and they don't do it.

    It's fucking infuriating.

    Anyway, with that,

    I don't know.

    I didn't have an outline for today and I'm not sure if that's better or worse.

    I really like extent brilliantly speaking but I think also it's good to have bullet points to hit.

    But I just was kind of moved to talk about this because I was just annoyed by these fucking

    Al Franken and James Carvelle things and you know, I just wanted to talk about it and didn't
    really want to prepare.

    And also I had an hour to do something and again, I could have worked on some

    shit.

    But instead, you know, just decided, oh, I'm going to just going to talk about some bullshit

    instead.

    And I don't know, probably not the most efficient use of time.

    But hopefully was

    interesting or entertaining or at least a good sleep aid.

    With that, I think I'm going to take

    off now.

    So thank you as always for listening and Zijin and also like Apple Transcriber

    which replaces the transcripts that I put in my fucking things.

    It's it's Zijin.

    It's not

    it's that's you later.

    It's that's you again.

    It's Zijin with the fuck.

    Like it's it irritates the

    shit out of me because I I don't really spend that much time on my own transcripts anymore because
    the thing just replaces them.

    Right, James does.

    I bought that apple podcast for other.

    But I just

    like, could we could we just not give me this actual like the thing that I want? Why do you have
    to do this? It's it's frustrating.

    Anyway, I actually actually this time.

    Thanks as ever and

    再见

    54 min
  • The Wheels on the Bus

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    Episode Transcript

    there I'm Scott and this is Tangents.

    Well it is the 26th of I was going to say

    February I don't know why.

    I'm looking at my the date in my Mac and it says

    Friday 26.

    I don't know why.

    I don't know why I have it set in English.

    I usually

    have it in French or Japanese or something for some reason.

    I think I know

    what happened.

    I changed it to English and I never changed it back but anyway it

    is Friday not February.

    The 26th of September 2025 a minute in wasted on

    that.

    So I am sitting in a hotel in Tempea, Arizona which is kind of where I've

    spent a lot maybe even most of my life not in the hotel but in Tempea.

    If I was

    going to live in Arizona I don't know that I'd want to be in Tempea
    specifically but it is one of the nicer parts but at the same time yeah
    I've got some mixed feelings and so I'm going to I have a few things I want to
    talk about and then I have kind of an ex-temporaneous shall we say exercise
    that I want to do.

    So I'm going to kind of jump into it.

    I came here well I

    flew back from Tokyo about a week ago.

    I guess a week ago Sunday.

    Today is a

    Friday.

    So five days ago and that was an LA.

    I stayed with my mom and sister for

    a couple days.

    I like three nights and then Futa Phoenix and I came here for a

    couple reasons.

    I'm seeing some people and hanging out with some people and

    also kind of more importantly there was Arizona Board of Regents meeting.

    Yesterday morning in Flagstaff and I wanted to go to that and in going to that well

    I should probably give some context for that.

    Basically I've been working with

    the Union United Campus Workers, the Campus Workers United, you know the
    Campus Workers I believe.

    Arizona for a couple years maybe three years I don't

    even have I've lost track it's probably closer to three.

    I've always been

    kind of Union curious but I've never been a Union member until my last job and
    I will say like even I've had a mix of jobs and employers and I never really
    felt like the need exactly for a Union but I always felt like organized labor
    was a good and important thing that I wanted to be involved in and I found out
    I don't remember what prompted me to look for it.

    It was probably annoying with my

    boss but whatever it was I found out the ASU and all of the state universities
    have a Union and this Union was it's kind of nascent it's not they call it
    a pre-majority Union so I don't know what the actual numbers are but it doesn't
    have the majority of the faculty staff and student workers but as a decent
    number and they're pretty engaged politically I have a lot of issues that I
    really care about and for a very long time I've been like it just to be clear
    I'm not like saying that electoral politics is not something that is worth
    engaging in at all although I have very big misgivings about it especially
    given the duopoly and the whole I've talked about those things a lot in other
    episodes I'm not gonna delve into it but I'm not really that invested in it
    I generally I vote every major election and I look at that as kind of like
    such a minimal basic thing I don't really consider it any kind of
    activism at all and I've been very interested in trying other other
    avenues whether they're organization especially for like reproductive rights
    you know but the better social issues medicare for all or better is my
    preference really and I've been looking at it organization outside of a
    electoralism so the union was a big place for that and there are a bunch of
    things that are kind of badly fucked up in Arizona and one of these is that
    they're currently wasting like a billion dollars plus a year on vouchers for
    private schools and these things like they they originally kind of started
    out with semi good intentions which were if your public school didn't have
    the ability to support especially the students then you could use these to get
    the care that they needed I think this was even from its inception a terrible
    idea because what you should do and what should be obvious here is if the
    school doesn't have the ability to support those needs they should support
    those needs they should develop that ability that is that's that's the whole
    fucking way public school should work public resources should work that way
    public services the way people have twisted these ideas to to be like oh well
    the post office has is losing money they're not making they're not a
    fucking business they're not they're a public service they're an essential
    very important public service they're not meant to be making fucking money it's
    not like the goal it shouldn't be the you know the street lamps or the sidewalk
    or the open roads are not meant to make money it's it's a basic service we
    invest in collectively and it makes things better for all of us and they're not
    their public goods but I don't even want to get into the details but
    basically these are things that we should just be doing public education high
    quality public education is one of those things now I do have misgivings
    about some of the ways that it's used for propaganda especially like I've
    been talking about this a lot and thinking about it a lot lately but in K through
    12 I went to public school and in K through 12 I don't know it was every year
    but feels like basically every year at least for a little bit and often
    for probably like longer than any other subject about a dozen times order of
    we covered the foundational myths of the United States the same Revolutionary
    war bullshit which is interesting given the Kirk stuff because people are like
    oh political violence has no I don't even want to get back into the Kirk's
    stuff but it's kind of funny seeing all these people especially people who I
    know are like huge fans of Hamilton which I also I've had a very big flip on
    that I used to like it a lot and now I think oh this is just sort of rebranding
    and whitewashing interestingly enough in black faces not black face but
    actual black faces whitewashing of racism and child slavery and a lot of
    horrible shit that the the air quotes founders were engaged in but again
    never mind that now people who I know like that stuff and they're familiar with it
    they're not like they know about the Revolutionary War and all this talking
    about like political violence has no place what the fuck country do you
    yeah and I'm not even saying you'd have to get involved or understand like
    all the wars often wars that are not called wars that the US has been
    engaged in but just the fucking Revolution like how do you not know about that
    how do you not know about like how we have the weekend and it is just ridiculous
    it's just completely ridiculous and I think like between mass of amounts of
    ignorance and active I don't think that people are necessarily doing it on
    purpose but they've definitely been disinformed they've definitely been
    propagandized and they're repeating that and so it's it's funny although
    and they sort of disturbing way to see people just sort of going like oh well
    there's no why would you ever you know it's it's a little anyway I don't want
    to get into that now eight minutes then but I kind of get to get to get more
    to the crux one of the things that my union has been doing and I didn't go
    yesterday in the capacity of a union member in fact I'm I can't remember what
    it's called exactly but I'm no longer employed by ASU so I'm no longer an
    official union member I'm like a community supporter or something I still
    pay dues at least or I will until I run out of money but I'm not like a I'm not a
    union member exactly I can't vote so but I do participate we've been going to
    these Board of Regents meetings for almost as long as I've been a member I
    think the union has they're started one or two times before I started but
    they've been doing this and in the Board of Regents meetings they have a
    public comment period and the public comment period actually jumping back
    to the the vouchers and things just to put a cap on that before I get back to
    this they have gradually expanded this stuff and are now again over a billion
    dollars a year and it's going to public you're not the public schools it's
    going to private schools often with totally different standards often religious
    schools almost always to people who like the the vouchers do not cover the
    full tuition so it is not something where like anyone is able to get in and
    also these schools just to sort of juice their numbers they very selectively
    pick and choose their students so the public schools have to teach everybody
    which means that if you look at the metrics they're not going to be great
    often but if you're able to pick like the air quotes best students then when
    you do that you go in and now you get you know high test scores or you know
    high college admissions or whatever metric you want to look at they look
    good so it looks like they're successful but it's kind of a causation correlation
    thing it's like well if we pick the top performers they happen to perform better
    than most people that's you know it's it's very circular but people don't really
    understand statistics don't really understand causation cause and effect or any
    of this kind of stuff so anyway getting back to the board of regions I don't
    want to someday I have to do an episode just completely on that because it's it's a
    giant cluster fuck and it's so incestuous like there are so many people
    Republicans in the state legislature and I don't want to I don't want to let the
    Democrats off here because the Democrats started this shit and they keep
    voting for it and expanding it and it's very bad and you know it's definitely not
    one particular party at fault here but in particular there are a couple maybe
    a few Republicans in the state legislature who also own these charter
    schools or private schools whatever the fuck they're called and they collect
    millions of dollars of public state funds from these things and enrich themselves
    with it and it's really you know like so many things in government I mean I
    always talk about Pelosi I talk about her specifically because A she's
    particularly agrieges and B I don't want people to just think oh you're just
    shitting on Trump because Trump is very open about his corruption and all
    of this kind of stuff but you know A it's bipartisan B it's not new and C you
    know people like Pelosi doing this shit have established that nobody's good
    nobody's doing the avoid even the appearance of them for priority thing
    which everybody should be doing and so because of that because of that we end up
    having this situation where people like Trump could come in and say well you know
    or either he's saying it or implying it and people are saying this about it but
    they can sort of say well you know he's corrupt and all this stuff but he's
    just doing what everybody does but doing it openly and he's not lying
    about it which is kind of true if you have no concept of scale or degree like
    he is kind of doing the same stuff and it's I really do fault the Democrats
    for this because if you avoid even the appearance of him for priority you have
    a moral high ground to stand for him to criticize people who absolutely do not
    and I would say yeah these doing orders of magnitude worse but then we're
    doing bad enough stuff that it's easy to understand why a lot of people look
    at them and they don't really see much of a difference especially if they're
    not paying that much of a very much attention and especially because like I'm
    not gonna defend I keep coming back to Pelosi she's not the only one a whole
    bunch of fucking people in Congress who engage in open insider trading I'm
    both parties yeah it's it's it's just disgusting anyway to the to the
    board of regents who also do by the way this kind of same kind of stuff at
    least one of the regents owns property was just talking with somebody about
    this yesterday owns property around the U of A and Tucson and is renting
    a student that exorbitant raids and is also deciding like things about on campus
    housing and what people can do and how the the number of conflicts of
    interests like just open brazen conflicts of interests people have everywhere
    and every organization in politics today and business is just fucking wild and
    it's you know it's no wonder people don't trust anything because it's just
    untrustworthy you'd be kind of silly and foolish to trust these people but the
    board of regents they're picked by the governor and then there's an approval
    process and all of this but basically their political appointees by the
    governor they have a certain fixed-links term I think they can be re-appointed or
    I'm not exactly sure all the details but basically they come in and some of them
    have been there for a long time some of them last and some of them are like old
    Democrat appointees some of them are new Democrat appointees some of them are
    Republican appointees the newest one they were talking about yesterday and
    bragging about was Jimmy McCain John McCain's son who incidentally I just
    to vent a little bit here I don't know his current registration but I assume
    Democrat at least was registered Democrat for a while but prior to that he was
    an independent or an Arizona snow party preference and then prior to that he
    was a Republican and this is one of these things I get very in-sense about
    because the Democratic Party you have you have all these people who ruined
    their party destroyed their Republican party to the point you know like they
    their rock stars they went to a fucking hotel destroyed their room and they
    did it to the point where they had to leave it themselves like they could not
    any longer stomach being associated with that party they fucked it up that
    badly and then they come into the Democrats and not only with open arms are
    welcomed in and they're not on like probation they're not sold you know
    like you can sit here with us but you know your your voice is going to be
    diminished they're getting to dictate things like policy positions they're
    getting pandered to like these are people who are politically homeless and then
    you have this party who they've joined into that has made itself I mean I don't
    even think you can call it a big tent because the tent is now excluding people
    like me people like me who have these ridiculous obscene ideas like immigration
    should be fairly stand very fairly easy you should like maybe maybe there's
    some threshold to it but basically if you want to come into this country and
    work here you should be able to just like my grandfather did it should not be a
    big deal if you get sick there should be health care for you like a real
    country the cities should be walkable the cities should have you know they should
    be accessible as well like if you are a wheelchair user you should be able to
    get around to see you should be able to have public transit that is good and
    worth the damn which I'm going to get to in a little bit just basic shit
    right stuff that other countries enjoy and if you travel around the world just a
    little bit you go to actual developed countries and I like I see a lot of
    people say like the the US is the only developed country that I don't consider
    this country to be a developed country and I don't say that just to be provocative
    or as an exaggeration I think if you make a list of fairly basic standards that
    I would consider just basic requirements for being a developed country like you
    should be able to get any job and if you're in that job and you're working you
    should definitely be able to get housing and eat and be okay and when I say
    housing I don't mean like you know you have a closet someplace where you have to
    have five roommates I mean you should be able to get like at least a private little
    studio apartment personally I think housing is a human right this is another
    thing I don't think I don't think it should be required that you work to get
    that it should be decoupled from it but definitely if you are working it's
    indefensible to be working and still have to be homeless that is
    fucking disgusting you should be able to get education for free and when I say
    education for free I and a high quality as well not just like you know you can
    get kind of like make shift shotty garbage I mean basically like K through
    12 plus university plus graduate school as far as you want to go whatever
    terminal degree you want or continue indefinitely you should be able to do
    that and not end up with a fuckload of student loans you should be able to get
    sick and get the health care you need if you get in a crash or your kid gets
    cancer that should not financially destroy you and you're legacy yeah there
    are basic things that I would say are requirements for being a developed
    country and I don't think like and I'm not just trying to make a list I just
    want to be clear I'm like I'm not trying to just sit on this country if I made a
    list completely on the abstract of things that I think really make you
    qualify as a developed country I don't think this country you should be able
    to turn on the tap and drink the water and not worry about it that's a requirement
    for a developed country you know like basic basic shit and this country does
    not qualify you should be able to walk around or go to school or go to a
    fucking concert and not have to worry about getting shot that is a basic
    hard- pardon me requirement for being a developed country and you just go through
    the fucking list and I just don't think we qualify I don't think I don't think we
    can qualify and I'm going to talk about the public transit specifically in a
    bit which is how I got to well how I got up to the flag staff yesterday or two
    days ago but I want to go through the Board of Regents meeting a little bit
    first so we get the Board of Regents have been going to these meetings and been
    talking to them these are these are full of assholes they're all when you
    actually look at who these people are they're basically people who just
    donated to the governors and then as kind of like a thank you bought their seats
    they got their nominations in exchange well I mean you know is there a
    quick pro quo I don't know but you have to be kind of silly to think and
    hot these are people that make a donation yeah you may again I know correlation
    does not equal causation but you make a huge donation and then you get an
    appointment and they happen in that sequence is not like you got the
    appointment then you make the donation although even then you could coordinate
    yeah it doesn't necessarily require like that there could still be causation
    but you've flipped the apparent sort of order of things but anyway that is a
    that is a thing to me that it's pretty fucking disgusting they should not be
    political appointees they shouldn't be people who bought their seats and they're
    all assholes they're all fucking horrible people and getting to the Jimmy
    Kane guy he is now I think a Democrat but he's basically a you know older like
    not unreasonable and I mean you can't see me I'm not on video but I'm making giant
    air quotes when I say not unreasonable Republican you know he's a guy who is
    sort of like you know like his his like his dad a little bit you know not like
    the current crystal fascists white nationalist just openly horrible people and
    I do want to say like you know I've talked to a lot of Republicans a lot of the
    people when you start because I keep seeing people think like oh well Trump is
    so unpopular and they don't like Trump and blah blah blah if you actually talk
    to Republicans and I'm not I'm painting with a broad brush anytime I paint with
    a broad brush understand I'm not saying like every single Republican this but
    by and large if you talk to Republicans who say you know whether they're
    never never Trumpers and begin giant air quotes or they're just air quotes
    regular Republicans you talk to them and they will tell you they don't like
    Trump they'll tell you they you know they of course they had to vote for him
    because this is not me but they thought that Biden or Harris was a
    comedy which is fucking ridiculous here is incidentally who just called
    Trump a communist to keep their dictator like the people throw away around this
    fucking word in this country like I I'm not saying communism is great I have
    complicated feelings about it but the way people have no fucking concept either
    either have no concept or they're deliberately maligning the term now it is
    it's just wild it's just fucking wild the idea that a fascist is like it's
    fucking ridiculous but anyway you know they couldn't vote for Biden or
    Harris because they're a comedy they're they're socialist and the thing is
    like these are fucking if you put them on an absolute multi-dimensional
    political scale they are sort of Reagan the era of Republicans like they're
    there are people who would have fit very well in the Republican party of the
    1980s they would have been like just at home there and which is weird
    because Biden of course has been a Democrat since the set well I guess
    probably it's whole life but he's been a Democratic senator sitting and the
    active politician for a very long time before Reagan so anyway getting through
    Board of Regions giant assholes I I really do not think that they should be
    political appointees they should be if you gave me my drillers I can snap my
    fingers and change things they should be appointed by and removable by the sort
    shared governance with the universities by which I mean the the students the
    faculty the staff debatably the community should all have their own when I say
    community I mean community members that are not necessarily affiliated with the
    university they could be alumnus or alumni or just people who live in Tucson for
    you a bear people who live in Tempe for ASU or people who live around the
    state maybe you just have one whole community one for the whole state and then
    you have the three I think that's what I would do you have the three for each
    university but either way each of these should have their own sort of
    Congress they they have some kind of government for these but it should be
    probably refined a little bit and actually have some real power and they should
    get to pick the region regions they should also have a way to remove the
    regions yeah maybe it takes a two thirds supermajority or something but they
    should have like an impeachment process so they they could do that and then the
    regions answer to them rather than you know whatever their interests are and it's
    kind of funny because the the previous chair who stepped down recently I don't
    know why she stepped down but she's she's no longer chair she has a defense
    contracting company and basically I don't think it's exactly an exaggeration
    to say that she traffics weapons like truly maybe she's you know doing logistics
    that are not exactly weapons but she's definitely weapons adjacent if you
    want to be really generous to her and probably also traffics weapons just straight
    up the current guy is a tobacco lobbyist I mean you know like it is just like
    if you if you wanted to find like a fucking evil bastard he was a tobacco lobbyist
    he got drummed out of McCain I wasn't present enough in this meeting to
    put this into my little speech but he got drummed out of McCain Jimmy McCain's
    dad's presidential campaign for representing a huta and Myanmar there's a
    dude there who is like a drum pusher I do just they're horrible people they're
    generally fucking horrible people the best people on that board are she and then
    there are student members but they have this thing where they can't vote for
    like a year or two and it's it's a very convoluted in fucked up it's not it's
    not at all a democratic thing and they get to make decisions on the future
    course of university education in this state and one of the decisions that
    they're making and generally you know I mean they get to pick the university
    presidents for example who they do this you know they they have a bunch of
    assholes like crow who are just terrible fucking people and again they're not
    like crow should not be running shit definitely shouldn't be running the
    university definitely shouldn't it like there should be fucking term limits I
    think too like he's been the president of ASU I think since before I started
    graduate school I don't even remember when is when he started but it's it's now
    2025 and I'm you know I'm not old but I'm not that young and he's been
    president for a long time and I think it's like yeah you're done just fucking
    go let's replace you and let's not replace you by doing like a nationwide
    search and finding some other horrible asshole to the sit and you see let's
    let's do it like if if given my brothers it would be somebody who comes from
    not necessarily a faculty member for the university although I think that would
    be the right choice but it should be someone that the again students
    faculty and staff of the university get to pick and and the regions should
    vet and all of that kind of stuff and again the regions picked by and
    removable by the students faculty and staff in their sonnets and their
    house or whatever the whatever the representative structure is but anyway I
    went there and this is this is the the little two-minute public comment I
    gave I should say I was kind of shocked that they let me talk because the last
    public comment first off I said fuck a couple times maybe like I am so
    tired of you fucking assholes or something like that so I would have understood
    if they didn't let me go and I also I had a speech prepared last time but I
    got I get so fucking incensed like I got up there my eyes rolled back and I was
    just talking and I actually get a video of that if it's available someplace but
    it was it was fucking annoying I'm so sick of these people and so I was kind
    of expecting them to not let me talk again and they do have an official rule
    that like if you talked in the last six months then you know we're gonna we
    might not let you talk again is like the so this was less than six months ago
    and they also have yeah anyway they had another person who came after me
    who basically like filibuster the thing and I had mixed feelings on that but
    it was it was nice it was fun I enjoyed it but I know it's also like
    antagonizing these people who are again assholes and today yesterday
    yesterday morning they had this video which I should put a clip of it in
    here although you don't need to see it but it was like the before you're flying
    on a plane kind of video they made and they're explaining what their policies are
    what their procedure is and how they're picking the speakers and it really like
    as I'm watching this I'm sitting there going like there's no fucking way
    they're gonna let me talk there's just no way but they did they let me talk
    to their credit they also there were a bunch of unite here I think they're
    unite here local 11 members who are the sort of like hospitality worker
    at the universities who incidentally you know like as bad as it is for
    faculty and staff they they these have this hospitality workers I guess
    actually you should have students faculty staff and hospitality workers or
    whatever the although to me that should be in staff whatever they are they
    should be represented as well in the board of regions but again you're
    everyone who works for the university works with the university has
    a vested interest in the university and I don't mean like the businesses although
    if you again if you want maybe we have a community thing that they can
    kind of get you know but easily overruled but they can kind of get a voice or
    they get a region to the whole state yeah people representation they just
    don't let them dictate fucking everything it's all I'm saying so anyway
    and incidentally that it gets the last thing is they're they're doing a
    bunch of shit to basically make the universities in Arizona sort of wings of
    like defense contractors they're basically trying to make them R&D wings for
    Northrop Grumman and for Raytheon and all these kinds of things pretty fucking
    gross to me I don't think it's something that that should be that way so this is
    the thing I I spoke about again I hope the hospitality workers get a better
    contract because they like these are people they don't have benefits they don't
    have you know they're they're living on a nine-month contract and then they
    have to get like financial assistance like basically food stamps and kind of
    stuff for the the gap they don't have enough money to cover rent they're not
    getting paid fucking anything like the well paid ones again in your quotes
    are getting paid less than 20 bucks an hour and most of them are getting paid
    minimum wage it's it's just a fucked-up situation again with no benefits no
    way to to deal with you know massive healthcare issues if they and I always
    think about this like if if one of them had a detached rent now they'd be so
    fucked they'd be so fucked because you know getting a vet for every
    trectomy was not cheap getting the recovery for that was not easy or cheap
    or quick and it just sucked it was very annoying I don't recommend it so
    anyway rolling up I got there listen to everybody else talk and yeah I
    they called me again kind of fucking amazed my performance now will probably
    not be the same as it was then but it's not up yet I thought about actually
    taking the audio clip from their stream but as of at least when I checked
    last which is a little bit ago they wasn't there so they're probably editing
    it and just you know doing whatever the which is kind of weird also because it
    should be public record and it should just be up I don't think it was even
    streaming yesterday but never mind that now this is what I said hi I did my
    undergrad in PhD at ASU and Emma former employee I don't think that tobacco
    lobbyists who sold cancer to kids and got kicked out of a presidential campaign
    for representing a whom to in Myanmar or people whose company's traffic
    weapons or drug pushers dressing up in suits pretending that they're
    respectable and decent should be undemocraticly determining their direction of
    higher education in this state simply because they donated to politicians and
    bought their seats here on this board how many people have you indirectly murdered
    it's staggering article 11 section six of the Arizona State Constitution says
    the university and all other state educational institutions shall be open
    to students of both sexes and instruction for anish chubby as nearly free
    as possible that is your job here not to further enrich yourselves or your
    oligarch benefactors or to turn our universities into R&D wings of the
    military industrial complex my hundreds of thousands of dollars in student loan
    debt says you're doing a terrible job meanwhile you have ice terrorizing
    students and your hosting visuals for disingenuous pseudo intellectual
    photobader crystal fascist white nationalists who put your students at risk
    got your professors assaulted and said innocent people getting shot and
    killed this is his words not mine by the way was a fair price to pay and
    worth it for our giant air quotes God given right to what I would characterize
    as man-made point-and-click murder remotes great job you should all be ashamed
    you should all be removed and replaced thank you so that was my that was my
    speech from yesterday I don't know that it did anything I definitely do know
    the one of the unite here guys afterwards said that it was a good speech you
    appreciated it so I felt good for that I do feel like it's something that is kind
    of worth yeah it's kind of worth going I don't feel bad about it it's one of
    those things actually like there are things that I do where I feel like oh
    that was kind of a waste or it was kind of not worth it this one I felt like
    yeah as much of a pain in the ass as it was to get there and it was a pain in
    the ass to get there and you know flying all the way back from Japan and
    all those kind of stuff I didn't incidentally exactly plan my return to
    coincide with that I just kind of knew how much money I had and where I was
    gonna run out and I also wanted to be here because my mom's birthday my sister's
    birthday and some other things are happening in October so you know I kind of
    well I knew vaguely when I wanted to be back I picked the time I picked the day
    based on almost nothing it was kind of random but some I coincidentally and
    some I intentionally bad ended up being a couple days before or a few days
    before the Board of Regents meeting and since that was the case I flew out to
    Arizona then I planned that oh well back I flew out there Arizona and then I
    you can't fly directly incidentally from LA to Flagstaff or I guess you can I could
    fly myself because I'm a pilot required to mention that every part or at least every
    episode I have to say I'm a pilot but I could fly myself if I spent like thousands
    of dollars renting a fucking plane and never mind I'm current technically but I
    am current instrument rated pilot technically but I'm also like I don't think
    current enough I'm proficient enough that I would feel comfortable without without
    some practice and without doing some stuff so I could do that or if you're
    taking commercial flights there's just nothing the or maybe there was one and it
    was like 400 bucks and it was a giant pain in the ass when I took was like a
    Southwest flight who incidentally I should probably I'd like to phase out I'd
    like to find somebody else but my mom and sister live really close to Burbank
    Airport and LAX is a giant pain in the ass Burbank to Phoenix is pretty easy so
    I did that and then you get the Phoenix and it's like how do you get from Phoenix
    to Flagstaff and Phoenix to Flagstaff is like a two-hour drive maybe a little
    bit more without traffic and it gets up a little bit closer to three hours with
    traffic LA to Phoenix depending on how you're getting there and all that kind
    of stuff it's like a six if you're driving a Tesla like a seven-hour drive
    with the charging and yeah I just I was just again in Japan and I went from
    Tokyo to Kyoto which is a rough order of magnitude comparable to the distance
    between LA and Phoenix kind of coincidently but kind of not and you take
    Shinkansen there and it costs less than a Southwest ticket there's no
    security that you have to go through really it's pretty easy pretty comfortable
    and you get on there and it's very quick and also this is very important
    because they're building some high speed trail or high speed terrain high
    speed trains in like LA to San Francisco and then LA to Vegas but you look at
    the plans for those like the plans for these are basically like some place
    that would take like an hour plus from where my mom and sister live in
    North Hollywood just to get to the station to get the train to go to Vegas and I
    think the San Francisco one is comparable like you should have a central
    and peripheral stations around the city that are very quick and easy to get to
    from anywhere in the city and then you get there and then you can take the high
    speed train and also and like I don't know that their high speed trains are
    actually like Shinkansen T-T-J-V-A Chinese high speed rail whatever those
    trains are called I don't think they're the speed that compares to those but you
    know again again they're kind of a thing that is improving I guess slightly
    slowly over time in this country the the the contrast between that and like I
    went to I went to China and I went from Beijing to Chengju
    Chengju I don't know I'm probably I'm sure I'm watching that pronunciation
    sorry Chengju I'm putting I'm putting in a different syllable letter that's
    not actually it's like Chengju but also with it never mind I imagine I didn't
    say that or imagine I said it correctly that's a fairly long train ride it was
    like a six and a half hour train ride so you know longer than you probably would
    want but still going 350 kilometers per hour on a lot of it and it was
    an easy to get to the station it was pretty fucking cheap it was it was just
    like such a delight versus being here and dealing with all the bullshit you
    know you have to go through security is not that bad to be fair but you still
    have to deal with it you get on the plane you have to get to the airport like at
    least 50 minutes early probably and you get there and then I will I will say
    this get to Phoenix Sky Harbor and you know you walk a little bit but then there's
    the Sky train and the Sky train kind of almost like if you squint and use your
    imagination a little bit feels like you're in a real country and then the
    Sky train goes to a station for the the light rail which is not like a metro but
    it's you know again also if you squint and really use your imagination you
    can almost imagine it's like a real city and then you get that and if you're
    just coming directly to any place on the light rail line it's not terrible like
    it does again it feels vaguely reminiscent of a real city like it feels like
    I might my thought there is basically like you get to order of 250 and
    assuming Phoenix is still inhabitable assuming like things don't go cataclysmically
    bad I kind of think that there will be actual like high maybe well I don't
    know about high speed rail but there there will be friends and you know like
    actual like a metro system the light rail will not be so ridiculously
    confined like yeah the metro doesn't go to Scottsdale it doesn't go to Gilbert
    and both of these cities are like highly opposed to it for no fucking reason other
    than like well the their reason is basically purely racist and purely
    anti homeless like they don't they don't want to let the poor people come into
    their cities they don't want people who are not white to come into their cities
    so they don't want the fucking trains and it's really fucking annoying and the
    thing that's kind of disgusting about it is the way that the train is set up the
    way that all of this stuff is managed the way the city is built and all of
    these things if you go on the train there are a lot of fucking homeless people
    because the city doesn't do anything like you do not support fucking homeless people you
    don't have like they do have shelters and things kind of but they're mostly like private
    and they're not adequate they don't have cheap to free housing they don't have like good
    support they don't have like you should be able I have said this before but you should
    legitimately just be able if you live in a city or even if you're visiting a city like
    I know the hotel lobby would be fucking furious about this but you should be able to go to a
    city any city any not just major city but basically any city and get a free room and
    when I say free room I mean like literally a free room maybe if you want it's at a scale based
    on income but I personally think it should be free and you go there and it should be clean
    it should be well maintained it should be comfortable and you should be able to stay there as long
    as you want and in that room you should have ideally it now maybe maybe you have a laundry
    machine that's just in the facilities but ideally you have one in the room you certainly want to
    have a shower comfortable bed basic supplies and you know I don't know have access to a kitchen
    or something would be kind of nice and also I would I would say food is a human rights you should
    have that as well and I mean restaurant lobby would probably not be super thrilled about that too
    but yeah those are things that you should just have but it independent of that I came here
    and the distance between Phoenix and Flagstaff so once you get here is such that at I don't remember
    the exact number but action constant speed should take you know you're I mean you're not going
    the high the full speed the max speed the whole time so to be fair it's not going to be 45 minutes or
    whatever you would calculate if you just like whatever the distance is divided by 350 kilometers per hour
    and I think it was about that but you know you'll you'll slow down you'll have some other
    things in the end you might have a stop in between but when you add all that stuff and it should be
    no more than an hour an hour and a half they get between here and Flagstaff and it should go maybe
    not necessarily from city center to city center all it should but at least like from a place where
    you're at a met like a transit station that lets you without walking along distance out and being
    exposed and all this kind of stuff lets you just go to there's a dude walking around with an umbrella
    that I swear he took off of a table some Flicks it's it's raining outside so I'm just watching
    I said incidentally actually this is this is a side I have been opposed to umbrellas
    basically my whole life I don't know what it was I just to like I hate the idea I don't like the idea
    of carrying around something and this last time like when I I meant to mention this in a previous one
    but either way I was in Kyoto and my friend who I was traveling with got an umbrella in Tokyo
    and she was she brought it with and basically like then I didn't need a lot of persuasion but kind of
    just light nudge plus seeing her have that umbrella got me to get one to try it out and it's so
    fucking better it's so fucking better than like you know having a hat which is what I used to do
    I mean first off if you have a hat I'm a person you know I'm not I'm not saying that I am
    completely immune to social pressure by any means I feel it I feel like if I walk around the
    Tokyo or Kyoto and I'm wearing a hat or wearing sunglasses I'm definitely
    aware that some people are judging me like and I'm not just reading that in like I I'm good enough
    at reading people and social cues I can see like you know walking down and you see someone's
    looking at you and you just like and that that's super thrilled not that you know like anything that
    I do is going to fit in perfectly there but I could feel it versus if I don't wear that I don't
    feel it or I don't feel it for that reason but you know having having a hat
    was a thing that I used to do and I always got annoyed with like baseball caps because they're
    fucking worthless I don't understand you like they kind of I don't get me wrong I get that they look
    cool just in the abstract but you know the sun and unless you're standing in one particular place
    with the sun and one particular place you're constantly they're talking your head to rotate
    the the bill of that thing so it's blocking the sun or you're rotating the hat and it's just like
    such high effort to have that thing so I got like the hat with a brim that's like that far out
    the goes all the way around because to me that's like it just makes it you know it looks
    dark it looks darky I fully admit not like the I don't feel like super cool wearing it but that's
    what I used to have and then I went even to step further and like you know I'd feel the sun
    beating down on my neck and at a certain point I finally and I thought about this for years before I
    did it but I finally got one of these hats that has that little flap that goes down your back so
    it's got the full brim around it and that little flap and for years that was what I more and it's
    actually pretty good like it does a pretty decent job of blocking the sun it's hands free which is a
    big deal and the ones that I got I could fold up and stick in my pocket which is a huge deal for me
    because I don't I don't want I don't like carrying around extra shit I definitely don't want to have
    like a backpack or something that or a man bag a purse I don't I'm saying that the race of
    we as a person is fine it's fine you can where wherever you want I don't want to carry around
    stuff as I just don't and so you know putting it in my pocket it was kind of nice but the thing
    had some problems so it would always like I would sweat especially being in Arizona and especially
    like if I'm going hiking or something I would sweat and then the thing would get sweat stains didn't
    help also that like you know with that sweat you get like a chromatography thing going on with
    the sun block and it would just like draw it in there and then you'd have in addition to sweat
    stains the sun block stains which would look like sweat stains but even worse and so it was kind
    of I don't know what the fuck is going on there a bunch of but I don't know if the if you
    heard it in the audio a cop car went by but there I can see the train tracks from here and
    like four or five cops have just gone down that's weird something is going on anyway
    if you hear something in you it's it's 15 to 41 as I'm recording this right now so
    or maybe it's just random who knows um where was I oh yeah the hat so that that was a good thing
    it was a nice thing that I used for a long time and I'm not saying that I'm done with the hats
    but I finally got this fucking umbrella and I don't know why I was so opposed to the truly
    and I will say they're not perfect like one big issue with umbrellas and one of the reasons that
    I've resisted them is just wind they they require a certain amount of sailing
    proficiency in order to carry them around when there's a little bit of wind and
    sometimes the wind overpowers you then and sometimes you know I guess if it was a
    optically clear but UV and infrared reflective umbrella it'd be better so you could see through it
    and use it as a shield but like I was walking into the wind earlier today and I had to have the
    umbrella straight in front of me and I kept checking to make sure that one was there but
    it's not from just looking dorky you know it's hard to see it's not the
    not the easiest thing to use not the cleanest thing to use but but
    if there's no wind and you're using that for the sun it blocks the sun pretty well
    the one that I have is UV opaque well you know I mean nothing is opaque opaque but you know
    decently so it's like SPF 50 or something equivalent so basically the factor opaque it's
    like the same that I'm using for sunblock or maybe I don't know exactly what it was but
    it's pretty good and it's supposed to do the same for infrared it gets hot because it's black
    but but still it's it's pretty nice and the big thing is you're not sweating into it
    and the one that I have and this is kind of a key thing it folds up and I can stick it
    it's a little bulky but I can fit it in a pocket and fitting it in a pocket again it means
    the I can walk around and have that thing in there and I don't need to be carrying it around all
    the time now when it's when it's out when it's deployed you do need you do need to have I'm just
    looking at the water rushing into the storm's sewer and it's kind of almost hypnotic and there's
    just a little river in this street in front of me almost take a picture of this I don't know that
    this will be my image for the for the episode but I would kind of love to make it that if I could
    although I'm looking at this and it's definitely not does not convey what I'm going for
    but we'll see if I can if it works if you happen to see that and the the image for the thing
    then you'll know that's what that's what it was but yeah the umbrella is pretty fucking nice
    and for rain and again it's not perfect for rain you know it's very mask like in a sense that you know
    it's decreasing the amount of rain that hits you but you're still getting wet especially if there's
    some wind and it's often wind with the rain here in Arizona but it does a good job of keeping you
    pretty dry and you know especially if it's just like dumping on you and not a lot of wind
    the difference between walking around with that and walking around without it is like even with a rain
    code on just night and day and the rain code I used to use but I never one day there will be
    material that is actually good for raincoat and that material will have this thing that basically
    it will breathe really well it will be a very waterproof it won't be like the durable water
    resistant stuff that they have or Gore-Tex where you wear it and it's just like either washes off
    or it just makes you fucking muggy like it you're just sweating under it it will be
    comfortable it will be breathing and it will keep you dry and it will be light and just you know nice
    if we didn't little criticism of capitalism that we haven't got that material yet but we will
    we will have that material one day assuming society doesn't collapse before then in all of that kind
    of stuff but it's an incidentally annoying thing that I find that just you know like Gore-Tex
    was invented decades and decades ago and when it was invented it was a fucking cool thing but now
    it's just embarrassing that that's almost the best thing that you have and it's it's just like
    analgesics we have insides and then we have opiates for pen killers there should by now if you had the
    research if you did the research right by now we would have figured out drugs that were anti-inflammatories
    and basically had no side effects we would have figured out drugs that could kill pain but not really
    anything else so you just feel normal but you wouldn't have the pain like it would just make you feel good
    I mean I don't mean you've been actually making you feel good it just make you not feel bad you just feel
    okay it wouldn't be like an opiate where it does make you feel good it would be more like oh I just
    don't feel excruciating chronic pain and that should just exist that's something totally is doable
    and if you spent probably like five to ten years researching it and had some of the doctors who
    were now out of work doctors being PhDs we're now out of work doing research and they were funded
    and all this by now we'd have we'd have those drugs we'd have a bunch of other drugs that would be
    so much better and we don't because the financing system the funding system for academic research
    is not great and then the incentives for like drug companies pharmaceutical companies are primarily
    to you know find stuff that's off the shelf and package it get you know like patent protection
    and just sell it at an exorbitant rate and they do that and that's where we are but there's not
    really a really a good system for drug discovery and a lot of it yeah it's an interesting thing
    because like if you talk to people that aren't familiar with this they feel like the drug companies
    are actually doing that research but in reality and it's not to say that they don't do any research
    they do some but in reality most of the new drugs that come out and again they're very limited number
    are coming from universities and there are things like that Hep C drug that was bought for
    billions of dollars and then they made that up because even though if they would have sold that
    you know reasonable price they could have essentially eradicated Hep C they didn't want to do that
    but they sold it at a ridiculous price per pill like thousands of dollars per pill and
    you know you can get cured of Hep C if you're rich and if you're just a plebian then you can go
    fuck yourself you can just have your liver just fuck off and die and and in fact other people in the
    process rather than eradicating it which yeah it's just like the way the I know I come back to
    capitalism a lot that the way that we organize society and everything we do and all this kind of stuff
    is so fucked up and so needlessly bad it's just it's just disgusting so anyway rambling on
    I really thought that by this point in the episode I would have gotten to my little
    extemporaneous thing I won't get to that soon I think all the way I'm kind of winding down
    we'll see if I have the the ganas to keep going but um I don't even know what I was talking about oh yeah
    does the abore meeting and the way that I got there was there's notion constant there's no high
    speed rail so I thought like okay I'm gonna see what the equivalent is what would you do
    if you were somebody living in this country or visiting this country and you didn't want to
    don't want to rent a car and I would really I am sure well I'm not sure that I'm going to
    end up having a car again but I probably will end up having a car again one day I fucking hope not
    I would love to not need one but I definitely for as long as I can I'm going to try to be places
    where they're walkable and they have public transit because I'm just tired I'm like having a car
    is such a ridiculous expense and the thing you know I mean it's it's like layers of commitment
    of expense and it is one of these things also that like locks you into a minimal monthly
    burn rate that is it like even if you that I get really fucking annoyed with a lot of apple stuff
    and one of one of the things sorry for the drawing change but one of the fucking things that really
    irritates me a lot is just the the way that audio is managed just in general um but I I don't know
    how this happened I have had the alerts like emergency alerts and all that stuff turned off on my
    phone for a long time and I maybe I turned them back on but I think that it turned it back on for
    me at some point I know first of all that like actually the amber alerts were turned on
    I I don't give a shit about those and I know you know like generally speaking those are like
    one of the parents kidnapped their kid I don't need those alerts and it's also like it's not actionable
    it's basically I put it in the category of sort of between copaganda and just like straight up
    propaganda like once to make people feel like things are really dangerous and scary and so they
    send you these alerts that you can't do anything about it's not like you're gonna get the alert
    and then walk down the street and see a kid yeah you know it's just it's mostly just so that you
    can be like scared so that you can just like ask you to have the ask you police they send you messages
    and it's like oh there's somebody scary on campus doing something and that actually usually
    actually doing something but just you know like we saw this suspicious character on and then they
    hours later say things are okay like all clear but anyway I turn these things off they were back
    on and I'm using my AirPods to record this I still need to do something better than that because
    you can hear the audio is not great with these but there's something that I have with me
    and they're easy and then oh all these things I've got it connected to my computer and for some
    fucking reason there's an emergency national weather service store morning thing for some fucking
    reason alert came through on my phone bonus vibrating and it overtook the AirPods that were connected
    to my Mac and brought them over to the fucking phone so while I was while I was recording and so
    I had the alert screaming in my ears which thank you Apple and also it interrupted my flow and
    interrupted the little thing just fucking irritating also also also as long as I'm talking about
    those one thing that irritates the shit out of me aside from the fact that I can I I have not been
    able to turn and I'm a fairly technical person I'm I say that with you know a little bit of
    humility but also like I'm pretty fucking technically capable like I can make computers do what I want
    pretty easily I can talk to them pretty easily all this kind of stuff I have not been able
    since I got or since they got rid of the analog headphone jack and analog dial to control volume
    I have not been able to have the volume on my fucking headphones my AirPods or whatever the
    you know whatever I've been using I've not been able to have that down to a comfortable level like
    especially in a quiet room like in an noisy environment it it it it it turned it up a little bit
    just to compensate for the noise incidentally they're also I feel like they're the equalization
    on them is like big at the high end big at the low end and down in the middle which is like the
    opposite of what I want because I don't want I want like voice to be enhanced I want to hear
    very crispy and cleanly what people are saying and I don't want to hear all the background
    bullshit as much you know not that stuff down give me the off anyway it's just irritating
    because I think when that stuff is down you have to turn the thing up to compensate and then the
    overall SPLs are just higher than you need and then you know you're doing hearing damage which
    I'm sure I'm absolutely fucking sure these things are doing hearing damage and I have like I turn it
    down to the very minimum level and on my Mac like I use the option shift volume down and I can
    get it to a quarter of the normal volume down sort of scale and it's still too fucking loud and
    a quiet room and then you take it one more notch and it's all the way off you know the fact that
    they can't figure this shit out just irritates the fuck out of me and then on the iPhone you do that
    too and you can drag it down with your hand instead of using the volume controls which is
    really annoying and very touchy and then they turn the fucking volume back up like you're walking
    around listening to a song or something and the song is it almost almost a comfortable level
    but still too loud and then you start getting it louder and like you can just watch it go up and
    it's like motherfucker I turned it down for a fucking reason I don't and the thing that's most annoying
    about that is they have like they they do have like an auto level set thing for volume control
    I have that disabled I turn that shit off and it still does this and I have a friend who is
    prepared and like he needs the brightness all the way up just to just to see and the fucking
    brightness auto adjusts itself down all the fucking time like you know let people control their
    fucking devices it's it's really just irritating shit anyway anyway never mind to also the like often
    um did just the last little complaint about this for now but the alert levels like
    you have an alarm or something or a message and I would get like an incoming text sound
    and things would be okay I keep my phone on silent now because of this but things would be like
    at an okay level relatively speaking I'd have it down at the lowest level again and then all
    of a sudden you get one and it's like excruciatingly loud like actually I'm not even exaggerating
    I'm absolutely certain that this thing is causing hearing damage and you know it's just it fucking
    pisses me off where was I anyway I I guess I get so distracted by this it's just just
    irritates the shit out of me irritates the absolute everything fucking shit out of me and Apple
    has like that they're doing this fucking Apple intelligence stuff I will believe you guys can do
    some kind of Apple intelligence maybe if you ever figure out something as hard as volume control
    and brightness control um you know like figure that shit out first make my calendar actually
    sync and work like show me alerts that are notifying me about calendar invites and appointments
    consistently and reliably because often I you know I've gotten months the get comes and goes
    sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't but I've gotten months where no matter what I do
    I would not get notifications for for kind of fucking calendar meetings and
    you know I'd have to get a text message from somebody saying hey Scott are you coming to the zoom
    is like what the what the fuck and then you look at the calendar and it's right there at the
    there's an alert set for the moment of and for five minutes before or an hour before whatever
    I didn't get any of the fucking alerts and it's just like figure out basic shit and then we can talk
    figure out how to make maps work worth the damn like on the maps on both the phone and the
    and the Mac if I search for something like I wherever I am I guess if you're staying in one place
    it doesn't affect you that much but I've been traveling a bit right if I go into maps right now
    and I type in coffee it looks for coffee in north Hollywood I'm in fucking to be like the very first
    option like if I hit enter coffee in north Hollywood if I click the top one coffee in north Hollywood
    not coffee nearby not coffee in the map region that I'm looking at it's just like the fact that they
    can't do shit like this and I'm not I'm not talking about like really like subtle nuanced
    tricky stuff I'm talking about just like basic everyday kind of shit that anyone using a Mac
    would actually fucking want that would be you know figure that stuff out figure that stuff out
    first so getting back to that if you have a car the minimum monthly burn rate that you have
    with that car is such that you know like you you can't reduce your cost below a certain number
    and maybe you have an older car that is paid for you still have insurance that you have to pay
    for you still have basic maintenance that you have to pay for if you want the car to to last
    and if it's an older car good luck not having it break down and good luck not having like some
    some compressor or an alternator or whatever fails and it has to be replaced in a cost of
    thousand bucks or the air conditioner breaks or whatever it is something breaks down on that car
    and it takes maintenance and it's it's just a consistent continuous thing you don't have to be
    in the situation I was in which I deeply regret and I'm glad to be fucking out of it but
    I when I was getting paid a lot better I got a Tesla Model 3 and I very foolishly got a shorter
    lease I don't know why I didn't just get the longest and not at least alone I got a shorter
    loan because I wanted to pay it off more quickly and which would have been fine if I kept that
    income it was not that big of an expense relatively speaking with the income that I had but then
    I lost that job and then I didn't get paid for a year plus and then the job that I got
    paid like a third of what I was getting prior and then it went from being like not that much money
    relatively speaking to literally half of my paycheck like one of my paychecks was going to the car
    for the eleven hundred per month for the loan and then like four hundred a month for the insurance
    so like fifteen hundred a month was my take home on the paycheck one paycheck was going to that
    another paycheck was going to rent and then what do I do for food what do I do for and yeah
    like it's a real fucking problem it's a real annoying fucking problem and again you could get a
    car that's cheaper than that but you have the new car and you have the fixed expenses for that
    or you have an old car and then you have the random stochastic expenses that you never
    can predict when they're going to come up and also are you going to be without a car like
    Prunos what's going to happen is it going to be something that like even if you have the money for it
    are you going to end up having to not have a car or have a rental for a week or two
    I'd you know or somebody hits your car guy who knows what the fuck is going to happen
    but it's it's really there was a thing on blue sky this morning somebody said like what are
    your biggest complaints about or what is your biggest complaint about having a car or about cars
    something like they're driving or something like that and I was very pleased to see like a good third of
    the people who responded maybe it was a quarter but a huge chunk of the people that responded
    all said you know we're upset because some some version of just driving like the fact that you can't
    have a city where you could just not have a car and it's one of these things like if you live in
    this country people have decided cars and cities that are built around cars are somehow freedom
    but they are just a ball and chain that everybody is attached to and you know most people
    especially people that are working they either have to have a car or if they can't afford a car
    they have to convert like you know like in Phoenix there are buses but the frequency is very low
    there's light rail but the frequency is very low and it doesn't go that many places
    and if you live someplace and you need to get to and from work and you can't afford a car
    the thing that you can do is like take buses and then you know maybe it takes an hour and a half
    or two hours to get the work and two hours to get back home so that's an unpaid half of a day of work
    potentially that you're spending dealing with transit you know it's fucking annoying and it's not
    free either like it's not expensive expensive but if you're using the light rail twice a day
    it's four bucks a day in a month that's like 60 bucks all right I can't even do the math
    in a month I guess that would be four bucks a day five days a week so 20 bucks a week
    times four so it's like 80 bucks in a month give or take and you can get like discounts and
    things like this but it's still a decent expense just to do that and again the light rail is not
    it's not very high frequency and it's not very fast like it goes from tempede to sort of
    Mesa ish to downtown Phoenix to a little bit out and you go down to those distances and it's like
    it takes as long as it takes to drive in a car even with you know if there's traffic maybe it's
    cutting a little bit of time but it's also it's a light rail going through the roads so it has to
    deal with traffic as the wait for stoplights and stuff like this it doesn't go very fast it's like
    and it's it's only two cars which is weird it's compared to like being in Tokyo where you have
    these trains that are racing through and they got a big fucking cars full of people and then you
    have the light rail here and it's like two cars lumbering along they come every like 15 minutes there
    it's like two minutes maybe if you're on a low frequency one it'll be like every five minutes
    a train comes and it'll be six to eight cars at a there's plenty of space and if that one is full
    wait another five minutes and there's another one or during rush hour wait a couple minutes two
    three minutes and there's another one the difference is just wild it's just absolutely fucking wild and
    you know again you have the shinkansen and this is the thing I wanted to talk about I still haven't
    gotten to the extent for any of this thing I'm probably going to talk about that but we'll see
    I got energized by my complain about the AirPods and the fucking notification
    almost all these notifications too like I do think that the emergency weather alert or
    like if something serious is happening I'd kind of like to know but I don't want my phone to be
    screaming at me I don't want to just take over the AirPods and scream at night ears and interrupt
    my recording I'd like to just have like a little notification and see it but anyway um yeah I
    wanted to see what you would do if you're trying to take like a reasonable sort of equivalent of train
    and there is a train incidentally that goes from LA to flag stuff but it's like a 12 and a
    half hour train ride it's like you know I just I can't I can't can they how ridiculously slow
    that is and and of course also that's not from like the door that you're leaving 12 and a half
    hours that's like you have to get to the station first and then it's 12 and a half hours and that
    puts you at a station and then you have to get from that station to wherever you're going
    yeah it's not like oh it takes you from here to here and it takes 12 and a half hours total
    the difference between that and chin constant which again would be like two and a half
    maybe three hours between LA and Phoenix and it would be powered by sunlight
    or nuclear power or whatever being something that's pretty but probably sunlight could do it
    um it's it's infuriating it's fucking infuriating I wish more people understood how badly
    fucked you're getting in this country not just from like the healthcare situation although
    you're getting fucked on the healthcare situation we're spending like over a fifth of our GDP
    per capita basically by any any metric that you air any like scale you want to look at it
    per person you're spending like 20% plus of the GDP on healthcare versus other countries
    that have universal healthcare like and you know it's much cheaper and better quality and
    better outcomes and all those kind of stuff and they'll spend 8% or like on the high end like an
    expensive one would be 12% or maybe you can find some that go off the 15 or something but they're
    rare and they're kind of like um Cadillac plans essentially so so to speak but you know there
    are places where it's like 6 to 8% and their their outcomes are better the quality of care is
    better and also the doctors are more doctors and fewer payers and nurse practitioners and all
    of this kind of stuff there there are so many layers are just fucked up in our system
    because like one of the reasons why we have so many of those and so few doctors is because
    doctors are kind of scarce artificially like every every year if you look at the number of people
    that apply to medical school it's so much more than they actually admit and there are yeah there are
    constraints like they have so many residency slots they only have so many slots in the school and
    all of this kind of stuff but you could expand both of those easily and go like you know
    ratchet them up over the course of time build more medical schools make them free and so on and so on
    and in doing that you know get a fuckload more doctors and then we'd have much better care for
    everybody and also the doctors could give you you know you could have people who are actually like
    not just there for the money but they're to really help and give much better bedside manner
    not be there sitting there fighting with the insurance companies spending tons of time you know
    just and actually having to pay an extra person to deal with that kind of bullshit and
    what it could be much better it could be so much better but because that false scarcity exists
    and all of these other things we end up having a whole a need and people who have filled with
    people who are less qualified and less trained and it's just it's just a mess and the doctors
    are pissed off at the people that are less qualified and trained but also you kind of can't blame them
    because they couldn't get in a medical school because you guys have constrained the medical school
    stuff and you only have so many residency slots because you're using Medicare and Medicaid to
    pay for those but you could you could fund those other ways you know I mean it's certainly like you
    look at all the money that we waste on defense and the cops but you could have free medical
    education easily fully funded residency programs for everybody that wants to go and you know I mean
    you you definitely have like standards and requirements and stuff but you don't have to weed out
    a bunch of people who have exemplary like imcat scores and volunteers and they're volunteered
    and have great references and all that kind of stuff who would be good doctors just so that you
    have like a tiny number of slots and you keep it as like an exclusive profession but anyway
    it's it's just annoying I I can't believe I'm an hour 20 minutes and before I finally get to this
    so I figured out how to get there and the way to get there is a grayhound which is a boss
    and the grayhound that I was on was I think going from St.

    Louis originally and so you hop on it

    and it's for some reason in Arizona the only options the get from Phoenix to Flagstaff are like
    10 something A M or 10 something P M and if you go and either one of those you get there at like
    130 is either in the afternoon or in the morning and I A A I already had my my tickets to fly here
    for the afternoon B I didn't I didn't want to get like I kind of switched to the morning
    but I didn't want to get here at a point where it's like okay you have to go into the grace
    the grayhound station to be there at 10 30 or whatever it is so that is after you get off the plane
    it's at least probably 45 minutes to an hour you won't of margin so you have to get in at like
    9 30 or or earlier and then the flights like an hour and a half and you have to be there earlier so like I'm 30
    eight o'clock so I would have had to leave it probably like 7 7 30
    I didn't want to deal with that to get there at a reasonable time and then still you're there
    you know the whole day and what are you going to do for the rest of the day I don't know
    so I went on the later one and I went I I think it was 10 45 that it actually
    left but or 10 30 something like that PM 22 let's say 45 and I was able to get there
    first on the light rail which is going to is slow I went back to the airport I took the sky train
    sky train takes you to the 24th street station and then once you get there you get off the thing
    and you have to like walk and it's not well marked so first I left the wrong door
    and they closed it at 9 o'clock so I couldn't get back in and go back out the right door so I had to walk
    around the thing in a place where there was no sidewalk because of course why would there be a sidewalk
    it was just it was just like a fucking pain in the ass and then it wasn't
    a way away it was a 15 minute walk I think from there to the to the Greyhound station
    but it was it's just like put the fucking thing like build a tunnel connect it with a bridge do something
    make it like you're actually thinking about people wanting to do this make it like something that
    is not a nightmare fucking pain in the ass to do if you're in Tokyo in contrast
    depends on where you are but probably if you're anywhere in central Tokyo five minute walk
    maybe 10 minute walk if you're going to be like on the high end you get to a metro station
    get on the train 15 minutes later 20 minutes on the high end
    you're at Tokyo station right and then you go from Tokyo station you could buy your
    shinkansen tickets then a train leaves on especially on busy days and weekends and stuff but
    I think most of the time there's a shinkansen between like Tokyo and Kyoto every three to five minutes
    like no bullshit like it's completely fucking ridiculous and they're they're decently crowded
    by the way so you you get your ticket and you know you you want to get it with enough margins so
    that you can get up to the tracks and you know all that stuff but by the time you get there
    you don't even again you don't have your ticket you buy the ticket you run up there
    get on the train and it's like an impromptu thing like you could just decide to do that on a weekend
    and then like two and a half hours later you're in Kyoto and it's it's fucking awesome
    and you're sitting on a train that you can walk on you don't have to deal with the bullshit
    of like if you're in the window seat you have a stranger there getting you know like that you
    have to sit there and debate like do I wait these people up do I get up and pee or do I wait until
    and then eventually you have to pee and you just give up and you're forced to have a uncomfortable
    social interaction even if you didn't know the person who was sitting next to you there's
    enough room even in the like not green cars like this sort of normal plebian car there's enough room
    that you could get up and not disturb somebody and you know it's it's just it's wild
    how different it is and how much better it is versus here and so and you know like there are some
    stations that are a little bit far and you're walking a little bit like in Tokyo station
    the distance between the should constant part and the metro part for some of the metro lines
    is a little bit of a walk but it's all underground it's all enclosed or you know like there
    there are places where you'll have to walk from one station to another but it's pretty quick
    pretty short it's not a big deal it's like go down an elevator or an escalator rather and then you
    walk five minutes and you go up another one and it's not I'm not saying it's perfect I want to be
    clear like it's not perfect but it's so much better it's so much fucking better so I get to the
    station and I'm there and it's just like you feel an on-shin constant and when I say shin
    constant fill in the Chinese high-speed rail or Tijiefe or any of the other there are a bunch of
    different high-speed rails in different countries but whatever it is for the country that you're
    talking about the difference is like this is a thing in a real country which just normal people use
    and when I say normal people I mean you know like not like poor people I mean like not the poor people
    aren't normal people but I mean like a whole cross-section of the country uses it a whole cross-section
    of demographics use that and they take it and then you know it's that's just normal and this
    instead it's all set up kind of almost deliberately to make you feel like a third-class citizen
    and it's like and I'm not I'm not trying to disparage the people that are taking the train or the
    the boss rather but basically it's concentrating for people who are poor it's concentrating for people
    who are not you know it's not that just focus on socioeconomic status but it's mostly people who are
    very low socioeconomic status and they don't have the money to take alternate transit because they
    made it suck and it's horrible and it is cheap relatively although not that cheap so you're ending
    up with people who you know have more money not taking it and also who wants to go like the frequency
    is so low and it's so slow that who wants to deal with that inconvenience versus some alternate mode
    versus like imagine if there was a fucking train the train would be so much better a real high-speed
    train too I don't mean like the ones that amtrak is like constantly bragging about the go oh we got a
    high-speed train and they're so awesome that they can't actually get up to the top speed on their
    current tracks and or they can barely ever and they're like this is the train that it looks a little
    bit more modern I guess but it's basically what Japan was farting around with in terms of speeds
    and quality of ride and all that kind of stuff in the sixties or France or any of these other
    countries like in the sixties again literally it's so ridiculous and awful so anyway you're there
    feel like a third-class citizen and you get on the thing and and again I'm not trying to
    disparage with people that are on it but it was like a fucking hospital like you know I
    every time I go to the airport there are people who are visibly like since the pandemic started
    there are people who are visibly quite sick and obviously not mass and obviously not taking any
    precautions for other people or anything like this it's really irritating I don't like it but on this
    bus I don't know how many people are on the bus but it's a very small tiny commuter flight
    worth of people if not if even that and at least like three to five people are coughing
    and a few people weren't coughing consistently but like every once in a while you know like
    disgusting kind of and one person to to her credit at a mask she was very sick though and didn't
    sound good and her mask was like a cloth mask not a 95 but she was at least wearing something
    and those cloth masks like I I don't want to get into the details of these masks but the person
    who's sick wearing a cloth mask is probably better for transmission control for in terms of
    like you getting sick being near there then you wearing it in 95 with somebody like that not
    now of course both people wearing it in 95 is better it's even if you're wearing a cloth mask
    and they're wearing a cloth mask it's better than just them but you know at least it's just
    much easier not to get the shit in the pool than it is to get in the pool and filter out the
    shit after it's there so to speak so anyway she was at least wearing something but there were
    other people that were not and there's not great ventilation on this bus and I'm sitting there
    thinking like yeah in 95 is not a perfect protection I get my eyes or mucosa which means that if anything
    lands there and it takes hold you can get infected through that path I definitely was not taking off
    my mask my mask go a fucking time but yeah I'm sitting there and I'm just like it's going to be
    a goddamn miracle if I don't get sick unfortunately I didn't get sick but yeah it was now I will say
    that as annoying as it was and all this kind of stuff it's nice not having to drive
    I've driven up to flag stuff many times and being there especially at that time and being able
    to just sit there in the dark and kind of relax it was kind of nice now of course I got the flag
    staff and the station is just like it flag stuff is not that big they'd be fair but the station
    was a half hour walk from my hotel I deliberately picked a hotel that was relatively close to where
    I was going and relatively close to the station but still I have our walk and yeah it's just like
    I don't know it's just the I don't mind walking to be fair although it was like 130 in the
    morning when I got there and it was kind of chilly and so walking in the cold at 130 in the morning
    and wanting to just get to the hotel and take a shower and get the bed it was a little annoying
    especially after being on the bus and yeah it's just like I don't know I fortunately I came back
    yesterday with some friends from the union some of the organizers and it was such a better experience
    it's just such a better experience but either one is not as good as a fucking train like taking a
    goddamn train it's just and when I say train I want to be very clear I don't mean like a shitty
    amtrak I don't mean like taking a train that is like an ancient fucking diesel electric hybrid
    train I mean like an actual proper high-speed train from the 20th, 21st century not like from
    the not a 1900s train you know not something that's like a locomotive so to speak an actual
    fucking train and it's just like the fact that this is not a thing here the fact that
    people with you know a lot of money and a lot of lead time are slowly kind of building
    slight maybe thinking about high-speed rail networks across the US and various places
    and putting little legs in and they're still not going to be very good or very adequate or very fast
    it's it's it's fucking irritating and then I know people like the the two criticisms that I always
    hear and just to preempt these because I I can hear people criticizing before it's like well
    Scott the US is very big China's fucking big China is fucking big China's huge
    Europe is also big by the way Europe you think of individual European countries and then at that
    big but when you look at Europe as a whole it's pretty fucking big and yet each one is a little
    country but each state is a zone of fucking state you know it's not that different between the two
    you're making a pull-should excuse this is similar to like free mobile
    also like 20 euros a month or maybe it's 15 euros a month for better service than I get from
    team mobile for like I don't know 7080 bucks a month that's 15 20 euros a month is like order of 20
    bucks a month so you can get sell plus high-speed plus yeah and in some of the way we also they
    have a home internet for order of the same price and you can get them bundled together and you
    save like 5 or 10 euros a month and it's just it's just the difference between being there
    in a real country and being in this underdeveloped shiphole is just ridiculous I of the
    countries that I visited you know Japan South Korea China Vietnam and Thailand the only one that
    feels at all like the US to me is Vietnam and that's because you know not really like I mean
    don't get me wrong there are places in the US where you have some kind of public transit that's
    not completely fucked yeah you Chicago Boston DC especially New York San Francisco I think New York
    is the of the cities that I've been to in the US New York is really the only one that I would give like a
    complete fairly decent check to although even there the be fair it's not it's not great great
    like they're not maintaining it well but it's still better than any place else that I've been in the United
    States but you know you you look at that and like Vietnam was very underdeveloped and
    it's getting there like they're building there they're actually by the time the the US has this
    a latest San Francisco train if they do finally build it and not cancel it that's going to be
    shitty they will have a high-speed train that goes up and down the country you know from my coach
    humanity up to uh to Hanoi and it will be so much fucking better it will be like and you think about
    there like the cities I think they're developing but they are developing they're not like stagnant
    and you think about like well part of the reason the the country is kind of struggling a little bit
    is because they're not being supported by the sort of international community in the US especially
    and you know like we're deliberately probably fucking things up for them and they're still
    yeah like you could live very comfortably there there's there's a lot of poverty that be fair
    but also you look at it and it's like things things seem like actually not that bad but it seems
    very much like here and I've had people kind of push back on that and say you know like well some
    things are better there and then here which I think is true like the healthcare system is probably
    in some yeah yeah I'm not saying one is great and one is terrible but things are
    things are not clearly like better or worse and one of the other as a general rule and I think that
    is a condemnation of this country that it's not like massively objectively better and it's
    certainly like compared to the other ones does not come close at all does not compare it I guess
    this next one would be like Thailand was there was a lot of poverty there and they obviously
    really are hypercapitalistic but at least like in Bangkok there are you know it's not a great
    realm that work but it's it there's a couple decent realm that works and you can get around fairly
    well you know especially if you're not like completely going arbitrarily anywhere
    it's just like and then when you go to as soon as you get to like soul or Beijing or Tokyo or Kyoto
    or can do shins and any any like real city and a real country the difference between that
    in the United States is just fucking it's wild it's properly fucking wild and the fact that like
    you know if you're in Hong Kong you can well Hong Kong is maybe a bad example because it's
    kind of China it's kind of not but say you say your inshins then you can take a high speed train
    to a lot of other cities from there and it's it's a much better experience than when you get
    to that city there's going to be a metro system when you're in that city there's a metro system
    and it's going to be walkable now it won't be perfect and I'm not again I'm not saying like
    any places perfect but it's just like night and day when you're in this country and you compare it
    to these other countries it's just ridiculous it's just over the top ridiculous and wild
    so anyway I'm I feel like I'm rambling at this point but it's it's annoying it's greatly annoying
    I don't think I'm going to take that bus again but it shouldn't be like that it should be like a
    thing that anyone would want to do it should be at least as convenient as driving and really better
    because a you know wherever you are in the city five ten minute walk you should be able to get to
    not just the light real but something fast that takes you directly to a transit center
    that is a station that you're not going to have to go out and be exposed to the weather but
    you'll just be like a short walk to the train station and the train station takes you to where you're
    going and then somewhere we there there's you know a nice metro around and that takes you
    basically wherever you're going to go and it should just be like that it's not like I feel like
    I feel like I'm talking to somebody about like they're just the most basic shit like
    you should in your house be able to if you have to pee in the middle of the night or or poop
    you should be able to go to a room and in that room there should be something there that you can
    do that in you don't have to go outside and you don't have to freeze or boil but you should just
    be able to be there and then remove the waste you don't have to deal with it and then you should
    you can you should be able to wash your hands with soap and you know like it it's like that level
    of basic shit and I feel like at the same time that I'm explaining this if I was telling this to most
    Americans most museums I should say most of the museums if I was talking to most people I think
    people would just be like you're you're talking about fantasy wild impossible shit
    stuff that's not possible and so anyway the other thing that people say the other thing people
    say is like well it's not just that it's big it's that China has dictatorial powers and they can
    do whatever this country uses fucking imminent domain for sports stadiums that they've
    still people's houses they build sports stadiums with public money for billionaires like
    you can build a fucking train you you can build trains in this country you just have to have the
    world to do it you can build public transit and the thing also that irritates me I'm like I'm
    in tempi again I mentioned this before they had a train that used to come through tempi
    and they're building something which it's lovely I like it they're building like a walking path
    and stuff where some of these tracks that were in disused are and it's kind of nice but I'm
    sitting there also thinking like well if you wanted to build a train through tempi now your options
    are increasingly limited because you're doing this now and like where would you build it like where
    you had it before was a nice it might it might have been great tracks it might have but it was a place
    right it was a place it was clear and that you could put a train you could put a modern train in
    and now you don't have that anymore and you know now you get developments blocking where the tracks
    would have been and now you're gonna have to use that I'm in a domain because you're patching
    this stuff up like this and it's it's almost a thing where like you look at that and you're like
    is this I'm not saying that it's like inspiration but you know you kind of wonder like our
    car companies and oil companies and all these things deliberately trying to fuck things up
    so that strategically yeah if somebody wants to build stuff that doesn't suck it's very hard
    and very expensive and requires a lot of unpopular decisions I don't know I don't know but
    it's just it's fucking irritating so anyway well it should I'm an hour 45 minutes or 41 minutes
    into this I okay so that is hour 40 minutes of various just random shit I will say like this is
    just a cap that off buses like there's nothing intrinsically wrong with buses buses are very nice
    especially in places where they're kind of spread out and you need like last mile stuff to get
    from the train station to you know someplace where you're further away from a train station
    especially like in the suburbs especially like in your developing city or country
    you you don't have the train build out so you need the bus and hill as a stop gap until you build
    the train buses as just like a long term long distance option sock they're not they're not
    great one they're not the the best they're not the way to do it it's just it's just ridiculous
    anyway the thing I wanted to end with and this was originally my plan I just thought that I
    would finish all that other stuff in like 45 minutes not an hour 40 minutes but the thing I wanted
    to end with is sort of a little bit of a thought and like almost a meditation or thinking out loud
    about where I'd like to be and you know sort of what I would like to be home you know and
    sort of how I'd like things to be and I think this is a thing that's it's an exercise that's worth
    doing from time to time I don't think I think a lot of people would put a lot of pressure on
    the skin of stuff because it's like you're thinking of what you want to do and make it like forever
    and I'm not talking about forever you know anything is open to reconsideration anything is open to
    you know changing your mind or you learn new stuff or things change and you go someplace else we do
    something else but just at this moment in time sitting your in tempi having just done my
    couple months traveling around some parts of Asia and thinking about like where do I want to be what
    do I want to be doing and I know like a few things just absolutely I do not want to be in a job
    that I have to physically go into an office for I yeah I'm not saying I won't do that but if I
    can avoid it if it's something that I can not do that is absolutely very strongly my preference
    I just I'm kind of done with it I'm kind of irritated with that situation and I don't want to
    do it again I don't think like I've done it I've had the 95 thing to and I've done sort of much more
    unstructured stuff and the unstructured stuff is just better and I think also like I think that's
    something that should be open to everyone you know just like strictly speaking I know a lot of people
    physically can't get a job but isn't like that and it shouldn't be that fucking way you should be
    able to you should have a lot of flexibility you should have the ability to actually take
    there's another thing that people in the US museums like if you tell them what it's like in
    other countries where people take months off every year they think you're full of shit they'll
    think like oh that's like a rich person thing no just people in France can take a month off
    and when I say take a month off I don't mean that's like their entire vacation I mean they'll
    have like six to eight weeks of vacation and they can take four of them off at once
    and go on a long trip or just kind of chill out or relax or whatever it also also they have
    a decent social safety net and I mean again not perfect it's not like you know like they're
    not flaws to this but they do have a decent social safety net and within reason you know if you
    lose your job or something you can get assistance you can actually like live fairly well and not
    get kicked out on the street but again not perfect not you know like but it's it's it could be
    much better it could be so much better in other places but anyway that's that's the thing I want
    I want the ability to have a lot of flexibility that is you know I'd really given my
    brothers light to not have somebody it I've had bosses that were okay I will say that I've had
    I remember like brand-class and John Duce and I two of my bosses at Intel both of these guys
    were really great they they sort of they they gave me enough flexibility and freedom to figure out
    what I wanted to do and they gave me enough constraints to sort of like knowing what I could do
    where I was you know constraints and training wheels to get somewhere and you know like um
    everything I learned about Unix and being like right now I'm very proficient and it
    came from John Duce and a lot of the web stuff came from brand-class and unfortunately you know
    things have changed like John has retired long since and Brian moved to Texas I wouldn't want
    to go there I don't know if he's still with Intel I haven't talked to him in a while but
    his wife randomly uh was a doctor in her residency when there was in Texas someplace
    I should look at that but anyway maybe I shouldn't be mentioning random random people's names
    and I think I don't think there's any problem with that though but these were people who were
    very helpful at various points in my life and you know then I've had really shitty bosses like
    the guy after Brian was terrible one of the one of the worst bosses that I've ever had the one thing
    that I can say for him is that like he had no idea what I could do or what I was doing or how to
    find ways to make me productive and make me fit in well and all of this kind of stuff and so
    he just let me kind of like linger for a while and then eventually just didn't renew my contract
    and which was fine because I was kind of like I mean it would have been nice to have the money but
    it was also like uh floundering is not fun floundering you know it's nice to the feel like you're
    accomplishing something you're going to work and doing something for a purpose and when you're
    just kind of like going there and warming a seat it kind of sucks it really kind of sucks even if
    I'm very self motivated and directed but you know it's still like you feel very limited and that
    it's shitty I don't recommend it so yeah with with job kind of stuff and I'd like to
    the nice thing is like if I'm living someplace and I think this is a hard constraint too
    like obviously you know I want to live someplace where I can visit my mom and sister often
    if I could live someplace that was nicer with them that would be my preference but I don't think
    I don't know how that's going to work because they're very deeply committed to LA and I just
    think about like LA I mean LA does have a metro system it's not a great one but it's it's okay if
    you were like Phoenix if you were on one of the lines and you're one of the major stations
    and you know you didn't want to go anywhere that's too far off of the station or off of the
    the tracks off of the rails off of the lines you could you could get by with it you could kind of
    vaguely feel like if you're riding on that train or you're in the station for a moment you kind of
    almost feel like you're in a European country or in an Asian country or like any country that's
    actually developed but then of course you then you get it off and you kind of
    reality asserts itself but you know it's just not my first choice I'm not ruling it out but
    it's not it's not a place I really want to be and it's it's frustrating so you know I mean
    of the places that I just was I don't think I'd want to live in Vietnam although living there
    would be extremely cheap extremely cheap but I don't think I want to do it I could live in
    Bangkok I could like I know a couple people there and the cost of living is actually ridiculously low
    and if I had some kind of source of income that was external from the country and I live there
    I get them pretty comfortably pretty easily but it's not my first choice I also feel like tie
    so I'd eat crap Capcom crap I'm probably fucking up the tones but you know you could you could learn it
    you could learn it you could I if I started working while I was there on reading it and I definitely
    did not get the whole alphabet or I guess it would be more of like an average and I don't even know
    if it counts as an abjad but basically they have the consonants and they have vowels are kind of
    separate and they float around the consonants which is sort of like Arabic or Hebrew or
    an abjad so maybe it is I've taken linguistics a couple of times undergrading grad level and I don't
    remember but you know it's it's a phonetic thing that the tones are not like terrible terrible
    Vietnamese Vietnamese I feel like I'm botching that that one the tones were really fucking hard
    I like and my memory is not what it once was which is not helping but I struggled so hard there
    just to say thank you and hello and the basic basic shit and in Thailand a people speak English
    very well and be I think Thai is tractable or more so but you know and then China was nice
    I could see living there I could I mean don't get me wrong I could live in a lot of places
    but I could live there it wouldn't be that hard the the great firewall would be a fucking annoying
    pain in the ass it was it was irritating as a guest as a visitor but actually live there just like
    and then you think about it you're like I don't know the the one thing I really am not a huge fan of
    there and you know then Vietnam as well is just like the pushiness and like it to contrast it like
    in Japan people cute and like queuing is a very big thing and it's really nice it's really
    fucking nice and orderly and it works well with my personality you don't have to you don't have to be
    like super assertive or really push or anything like that you could just kind of comfortably
    follow the rules and the rules are you know some of them are not explicit but they're easy to understand
    for the most part and if you do that then things just kind of work fairly smoothly within reason
    obviously there is a lot of bureaucracy and that could have said I could totally live in Japan
    but in China you know like people are not queuing and they're like it kind of was ridiculous
    it's ended on the city obviously like the character would be different but that very generally like
    people would just be standing in front of the elevator or standing in front of the door when the
    subway opened and the doors would open and they just walk right in while people are walking out
    it was the most ridiculous like I wouldn't record it because you know obviously you got a lot of
    pictures of people there that you couldn't get permission from and they probably wouldn't
    super excited about it but just the experience of it was so fucking ridiculous and wild
    it's just like any any more non-avelists a lot of fires because I used wild and ridiculous a lot
    but it was it was so just absurd like if you guys would just stand off to the side and let people
    off the fucking train or off the elevator we could all get in and out way faster and way easier
    but instead what you're doing here is just kind of weird annoying and to be fair I've talked
    to some people about this and it sounds like a lot of this might be kind of a holdover of like
    older generations had more scarcity and so it's like when you have scarcity you feel like you're
    going to get left out of things so your impulse is sort of like the chickens like clamoring over
    each other to get food versus you know if things have not been scarce for a while you've been
    kind of okay you could be very orderly because you're assured that you know being civil and
    following these rules is not going to fuck you out of whatever you need it's a thing that I don't
    like about the US because you do need not do the same extent but you definitely need to push your way
    in a little bit and I'm not a fan of that it's not it's not natural to me it doesn't feel like I can
    do it but it's not a thing that I want to do it's just not you know that so anyway of all the places
    that I was and and also like I could live in South Korea but I don't think I'd want to as much
    either I'm really I'm all the places that I've been on this trip Japan and particularly Tokyo
    although I could take a live in Kyoto I could feel like to a lesser extent but I could live in Osaka
    I could and probably some other cities I wouldn't want to live in the Gano
    Nagano I don't know how you'd say it exactly but yeah I wouldn't want to live there
    although visiting is nice but you know there are there are places I wouldn't want to live in one of the
    sea the little villages that they don't have any public transit and it's just like one bus line that
    goes down it that I don't have a pass on I want to be someplace where you know there's not just
    a shinkansen station but a nice metro and you can get around easily and all that kind of stuff but
    I could live there I could live in France I could live in Spain but I think the thing you know I want to be
    someplace I don't need like a massive massive space but someplace fairly comfortable
    it could be like the size this room that I'm in now is probably I don't even know it feels like it's
    like at least 32 maybe even 40 square meters the hotels that I was in in Japan were like 20
    something square meters and maybe maybe they got up to 30 I don't know and some of them but
    it's it's interesting to me how much more efficient they were with space because like here is a big hotel
    the bathroom is huge but it feels not that big whereas their everything was objectively very small
    but the use of space felt like they were at least trying they just that side but I don't know what
    the size would be but you know having a place and having like a home base where you actually can just like
    keep your shit would be really nice having a like this is just where I go and I can chill out here
    having my whiteboard would be a big thing being able to cook would be a big thing
    having a walkable city that I can just explore and yeah at a certain point you do explore
    enough that you've kind of like I've gone to New York enough times or I've gone to Paris enough times
    that I think I've gotten to Tokyo enough times I'll eat Kyoto as well but I don't really I'm not
    saying I don't need to explore it because like all of these places you could spend years and years
    going to try different restaurants and going to different neighborhoods and getting to know places
    but at the same time you know on a large scale on a sort of like macro scale I've kind of
    yeah I've gone through all the around these small I've looked around I kind of know what's
    where it might take me a little while they're kind of reorient myself but I basically
    basically pretty comfortable with the cities you know it's a different thing living someplace
    than visiting it but being someplace where if I wanted to go for a walk or take the metro I could
    if I want to get to the airport it's not that big of a deal if I want to you know do just like
    any kind of day-to-day stuff I want to have a grocery store like five ten minutes walk away
    that's a big hard requirement for me I'd like to have I mean ideally would be like a
    but these are really but you know like some kind of a bakery nearby would be really nice
    having a coffee shop nearby although if I was living someplace
    kind of feel like I should just get into if that making my own coffee well at least yeah
    I go back and forth on the cake up idea but those pods are annoyingly kind of nice and convenient
    when I say that I mean you know generally not necessarily specifically that but
    there's something nice about that it's not it's not great coffee but you know or
    or you know they have these machines that just make the coffee for you and kind of
    do the full capuccino for you it's not a great cat it's not the best capuccino you've ever
    had but if you press the capuccino button and something comes out that's pretty capuccino is
    it's yeah you hit the espresso button and it's like it's not it's not the best espresso you've
    ever had but if you are just like having your coffee in the morning it's good enough
    or or even like I had when I lived in Paris I had a French press I still have that French press
    but it's at my sister's place right now actually but I had a friend a little French press
    and I had you know I just got like vacuum packed ground coffee I didn't even use a grinder there
    of a cartoon war I don't remember which which flavor it was or which kind but it was not like
    the best coffee in the world but it was pretty good and then I got one of the things yeah you just
    get like a box of milk that is ultra high temperature pasteurized so you don't have to refrigerate it
    and you do that and then you have your little pastry you get your punch chocolate in the morning
    and it's just lovely it's just like I can be very comfortable and content in that kind of
    a situation just you know like I definitely like I've had some people suggest like work where you're
    traveling I don't know I just like anything that you do that you really like that you do
    like you convert your hobby to something that you're monetizing or like if I started getting paid
    to record these things I'm sure it would become work at a certain point and it would become painful
    although I I don't know I I really go back and forth I'm like what can I do because I
    there's a temptation to try to do consulting work although I haven't had a lot of offers on consulting
    work recently definitely I haven't had a lot of job offers recently like that there was a time when
    I was getting the upper release study stream of them and I had people could get me stuff and
    I don't know the last few years it's been hard I don't know if it's because of just the overall
    economy or like I'm getting older or I'm kind of you know like a little bit of a pain in the
    S I'm not a pain in the S but I mean you know like I'm a little outspoken so I'm probably not doing
    myself any favors with my social media but you know whatever it is whatever it is maybe my letters and
    my CV slash resume are not as good as they could be I don't know but you know I've just been like
    getting dead air trying to apply to shit like not even not even rejections just like it's
    it's just you send it out and it's gone it just disappears into the void and also like I'm
    thinking about it and it's like I've applied to a bunch of stuff I don't even know if I want to
    do it if I got it like if a friend who works at Apple and I just like look at that and it's like
    you know I mean don't give me wrong I would I would take something now especially if I could
    make money for a year or two or a few years but I don't really really want to work there I don't really
    want to work in that kind of a job I really like really like the given my brothers what I would do
    I like I have a few projects that I can work on that I think would eventually generate money
    I would so rather just do that I would so rather just guide myself and work on my own shit and
    you know it's just it's really frustrating to see the situation where it's like how do you
    how do you make that a thing how do you and I don't know I don't know I'm also like I've had a few
    businesses and I'm very I'm very motivated I work hard and I'm self guided and all of this kind of
    but the business side of that is not is not me selling is not me dealing with customers is so
    like I'm I'm good at talking with people I'm good at explaining stuff that people I'm good at
    understanding what they're trying to get or achieve and how to do it but actually just like interacting
    with people I get I'm talking like it's making me physically tired just thinking about it right now talking
    about it yeah it's like oh it's just it's just horrible and I don't know you think about like
    consulting work too and the thing about consulting work is you only have so much time and the consulting
    work I don't know I mean this is I guess fundamentally comes down to why so many companies like
    monthly subscriptions because they're kind of shitty just in general but or at rent is really it's
    pretty pretty pretty fucking shitty but also you know it's sort of a very low effort and a thing so
    once you get enough of those you've just got your not made you got your baseline covered and
    I don't know I just I just go back and forth on this and it's like I would I would very much
    I would like to not have to deal with like selling shit and I would like to not have to deal with
    a lot of customer service kind of I just I just fucking hate capital services the thing
    if I if I had my like I really have like a magic wand and I can do anything I'd have like
    I'd probably just be a fucking professor but in a sense of not constantly chasing after grants
    you can write a publication or two a year maybe maybe more if you want to but you don't have
    like a huge pressure to and you can work on interesting stuff and maybe I teach a class every year
    but probably not too many and I just like I don't know I'm I spent so much time in my life like
    working really hard trying to build stuff and like every time I tried to do it every time I wanted to
    because I have my own stuff that I want to work on and I couldn't I couldn't figure out how to pay for
    that so I tried to do first I tried to raise money for it I couldn't do that and then I got
    I did get money for something that was like a side project that was tangentially related to that
    that I thought would generate something but it ended up being like I didn't realize like how much
    it's fucking expensive to build a physical product and especially like you need to get FCC certified
    you need to get you all certified you need to make it so that you know you can you can actually
    mass produce it and sell it and all this kind of stuff it's painful and expensive and I raised a
    couple hundred thousand for selling like that but I still you know I probably would have needed another
    maybe even the same amount to get everything to conclusion to the point where I could actually sell
    something and realistically like that was very cheap like if you're a company doing it you'd
    spend millions of dollars developing that kind of a product and it's just like I don't know it's
    frustrating how like what what is it that I can I because I know I have all these I'm pretty technically
    skilled I'm pretty able to do a lot of stuff I just don't know what I could do that would pay
    decently enough that I wouldn't hate I wouldn't be miserable and and that yeah I could just
    you know say I can't see you know I can't see something that would pay enough to be okay
    and not be miserable and you know like you started adding a few constraints there and it's just like
    what would you do I don't fucking know I don't fucking know I'm I'm an husband another
    think about this and kind of rumenate on it and then I will I won't make a longer one on that one
    someday but I think that's probably enough for now I'm already in the two hour six minute mark so
    that's that's a pretty long one of these I think it's yeah I do understand that this can be useful as
    a sleep aid but I probably probably don't need to listen to to me blathering on about this
    and like debating with myself over what I want to do and you know like just going back it finishing
    up the thought on the if you're consulting you can only you only have so much time right you'll
    me you can't like consult on a million things at once so you can't really scale that business
    and so you can only make what you make from it it's not like you're making a product where you
    can just mass produce the product it's not like you're making a online service where you can just
    sell it to more customers or something like that you're just making something and you're
    getting paid to do a certain amount of work and then you do it and then it's done and then
    what comes next and it's just like that what comes next thing sucks and then are you how do you get
    paid enough because with a consulting I and granted I I know I'm not a great negotiator and my
    former business partner very clearly was not but yeah it's just like I I never could negotiate
    enough for that that it would really cover the expenses involved in doing that and on top of that it was
    just like you know you're once a job is done you don't have a lot of ongoing you know like
    if you nice to have maintenance they just baked into that kind of stuff or something so that you
    just have a reliable baseline that you can you can pull from instead of you know we would get
    big contracts and then we'd have no contracts for a while and when you have no contracts for a while
    it really fucks you it's really it's lumpy it's like any kind of freelance work it's very lumpy
    you get people doing these you know net 90 kind of things so you do the work and then
    you build them and then you get paid like three months later maybe and soften if you get paid it's
    after a fight it's like you don't there there there are customers to be fair I don't want to say
    everybody's terrible but there are people who you'll send them a bill send them the invoice and they
    will just pay and it's fucking easy and you don't have the fight and it's never a big deal but so
    many people like if you do that kind of work you have to fight you have to sit there and go like
    fucking pay me fuck you and you know like if you try to negotiate and you figure out what the
    actual expenses are and how much something is going to cost most of the people will just like go
    I don't want to do that I'm going to just pay some dude and india to do it and you know it's just
    irritating it's just fucking irritating and I don't begrudge the person who's not taking enough money
    for it who's living someplace for the cost of living is much lower
    and you know all this stuff but it's just like it's very fucking annoying the the talk to
    somebody and it's like I'm giving you a very good deal here this is cheap like realistically
    you should be paying a lot more for it and I'm giving you this and then they feel put upon and like
    you know like they're giving you an obscene amount of money for something like if you're a normal
    if you're just normal level of rich the cost of developing products is very high and you know
    just like me with the switch you know you probably are going to spend into the by the time you're
    actually like selling and doing stuff into the millions of dollars that develop physical
    long word products and you can depending on what it is if it's something like really simple
    and you don't have to do that many iterations prototyping it and it's only mechanical
    doesn't have a lot or the electrical part is very simple maybe you can do it a lot cheaper
    but you know things get really fucking expensive pretty quickly and you know especially you know
    they feel like even if you're doing like CAD you're doing CAD just the price of solid works
    is ridiculous the price of all of them is ridiculous and so just paying for that is a lot
    just paying for your time is a lot and paying enough to be able to you know actually do the work
    and have a little bit more and cover you know other expenses and all this kind of stuff
    it's just it's very annoying it's very annoying it makes me like I I keep thinking about trying to
    find some kind of like an online monthly recurring thing that I could do even though find that
    really gross but you know like just something just something that doesn't it's it's very annoying
    I just don't know you know like there's a part of me that kind of wants to make something and sell
    that but then I think about like all the stuff that I want to make would take so much time and
    money to develop and then after you've got it you know like the manufacturing optimizations and the
    cost optimizations and all that kind of stuff more money in time and then at a certain point
    you've got it you're making it you're selling it and now it's a sales problem so you've got to
    figure out sales and you have to deal with that shit and it's just it's just like so many layers
    of pain in the ass and I don't know I don't fucking know I hate I hate that we have to deal with this
    shit I just it's it's such a and I know also like I make I'm a cutely aware that I'm speaking
    about this from a very privileged place and that you know like for a lot of people the stuff that
    I'm complaining about is like a fantasy dream like having a job that like my last job I wasn't
    out on a roof in the sun in the summer in Arizona for example that's a big deal and I'm sitting
    you're bitching about it but at the same time yeah that's it should be better for all of us it should
    just be better for all of us I don't know I think with that I'm I'm not exactly tired but I'm
    just like just talking about this stuff is just depressing me and it's I can feel the weight
    of it physically so with that hopefully by now you're asleep you're enjoying and you're not
    actually hearing this anymore so I'm just going to speak very very calmly and say as ever thank you for
    listening and

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  • Inflections
    Episode Transcript

    there I'm Scott and this is Tangents

    But today is Friday the 19th of September

    2025 and it is 1712 as I'm recording this

    I always I don't know why I want to

    tell you that but obviously as zero relevance or impact when you're listening

    But but I am less than 24 hours before my flight out of Tokyo tomorrow which is

    it's why I I've been out of the country out of the US rather I don't even know exactly
    probably almost two months I think it's that quite two months but almost two months
    I first left when was it I don't even remember I think it was the trying to figure it out 19th of July
    so 19th of August 19th yeah about two months damn near two months wild I don't even know what to say
    I decided well I mean I mean I go I don't have like a specific outline this time
    this is going to be more just extinct perics than peraneous and probably will be my last one
    for this trip well I'm in Japan and it might be my last one for a little while because
    a little more complicated to record one of these when I don't have my own space and I'm going from
    having my own hotel room to the living with my mom and sister probably want my own space for a little
    while I will be I guess in Arizona next week so I'll probably record one of these then but it's
    going to be spotty for a little bit frustrating thing I mean I am so I'm very fortunate that I
    have people to stay with right I'm very very fortunate that I'm not going to be like on the street
    despite not having a job or any source of income at the moment I'm kind of working
    on that although I have to say like first off I've been applying to a bunch of shit and I'm
    continuing to apply to a bunch of shit and the frequency with which I get any kind of response at all
    is just fucking nil it's I mean it's that is zero exactly but it's like one application out of
    dozens I'll get somebody to return thanks but thanks for sorry you're not a great fit
    and often you know it's like oh well you're not we looked at your application turns out
    you're not qualified and then the actual application and the qualifications are things that I'm
    worked way more than qualified for and it was in my application so I'm not sure
    what the fuck is going on there but I got those for a few community colleges that I was going to
    try to teach that and it was like yeah I I more than meet all of the qualifications
    word for these things and the funny thing is I don't want to be a professor at a community
    college I I know what's involved there I know how much work it is I know what the compensation is
    and it's just so much more work than I care to put in for what they're going to pay me and
    there's not really any job security it's like it's just like not a lot of upside and it's just
    you know I mean honestly it's a thing that if I was not in a kind of desperate position I wouldn't
    even consider and I only really applied because a friend from my union is kind of recruiting people
    she wants to unionize the community colleges in Arizona and so she's recruiting people to
    to be profs there and I'm just like I don't know I like teaching don't get me wrong I if I could
    like if I could really define what I'm doing I'd just pick and choose stuff I wouldn't mind
    teaching a class like one class every year or so maybe every three semesters would probably be
    more ideal or maybe even every other year yeah be like an ongoing thing that I would do
    and it does it is one of those things that you know the more you teach especially the same class
    the more efficient it becomes the every every every season every semester ends up being a
    little bit unique and you get different set of students some people have different stuff that they're
    good at and some things work and some things don't and I always try to dial it in and adjust
    for for the class but still if you're teaching the same class like the first time you teach it
    even if you get a syllabus and you've got materials for it the first time you teach it is
    so much fucking work so much well I guess you could be extraordinarily lazy and not do any work
    then it's gonna suck but if you try to do it at all well if you try to put in like even just like
    a little bit of time and effort to try to make it an okay class where you're actually teaching
    stuff and it's not excruciatingly boring and you're actually like you know you thought it through
    let's just say that if you do that it takes so much prep time and then if you're grading shit
    like even if you have TA's grading with you or air quotes graders I guess you could again it's one
    of those things you could be super lazy and just do like multiple choice or something that's
    really painfully easy that you could just automate even but if you're actually like to me that
    that is just busy work for the most part if you put something into a test or a quiz that can be
    answered in multiple choice usually not always but usually you're just wasting people's time
    more often than not like the purpose at least as far as I'm concerned of especially test
    sequences but also homework partly as to practice partly as to get some experience and partly
    it's just as a sort of guide you know like really to see where you are what you know what you need to learn
    and to kind of figure that stuff out I'm not interested like if I'm if I'm teaching I'm not
    interested in testing to sort of sort of sort of sort of people I don't really think that that's
    I don't I don't believe in that just fundamentally I think you know I I'm more of like a
    past fail kind of guy I do think you know there's like strong like exceptional past and then there's
    like okay you pat you did the work you got the stuff and then there's kind of like yeah you didn't you
    didn't get it and hopefully not too many people are in the latter category I I fucking hate
    and I think this is a thing that I don't know exactly where it comes from but it's fucking painful
    like the last time well I guess I thought of courses since then but the last time I took a
    erototic course the was Gil and I and it was this course that we made up and it was basically like
    high performance computing for people who are not computer science majors so like how to use a
    super computer for people who are in a discipline that is not computer science and we did that and then
    you get people in there and they're they're always like generally speaking the most annoying
    students that do this shit are the ones that already have fucking AIDS so that they've got they're
    doing well they got an A and they come in and they're trying to get like extra extra credit
    and for which is odd also because I always offer a couple things for extra credit and
    some people take me up on it but not many and it's not that hard it's like teach it fast you can
    teach one of the uh a lesson basically and I think that's worth a decent amount of extra credit
    and I I'm not sure if it's like the most fair thing because some people have a lot of social anxiety
    looks looking into a mirror right now but some people are very uncomfortable getting up in front of
    a class and teaching and I would for that reason I gave all their options as well but I think that the
    teaching thing is you know it's like a presentation is fine but to actually teach something like you
    put stuff together you make a lesson plan you teach it I think it's a I think it's a good way to learn
    there's there's a thing in medical school which is watch one do one teach one and I think when you do
    that you really learn things in a way that you don't otherwise and you also you know I mean it
    shines a light on what you don't know which is what I think is the real purpose of a test or
    a quiz because it's so easy when you sit there in the lecture to listen and you're like oh yeah I
    got this I understand that I don't need to I you know it's clear it's I've just got it
    I then you actually start really digging in like you you work a problem whether it's
    and and I I fucking hate homework is a general rule especially because like as a professor it's a
    lot to grade takes a lot of effort and time again you can do it as multiple choice but if you're
    doing it well it's not going to be multiple choice it's going to be like something is written up
    and you got some work that you've done and you know it's it's it's not something that's just going
    to be like you got a C I mean like you had four options and then C was the correct one I
    not that you got a C as the grade but those are the things that are easy to grade and when you do
    the more complicated stuff and again like this is if you have a grader it seems appealing it seems
    like a great thing but if it's not somebody who's a domain expert and whatever you're teaching
    and especially if you're teaching something that's a little nuanced and your assignments are a
    little bit abstract and open went ended it's really difficult for somebody to like figure out a
    rubric and and grade I mean this is one thing actually that and maybe I'm just ridiculous here but
    one of the ways that it really optimizes when you teach again is the first time you grade something
    at least this is how I generally do it and I'm not I'm not saying this is an efficient door
    optimal way to do it but the thing that I like to do is at least kind of scan through everything
    and sort of see pretty much what everybody's done it's really and the reason that I landed on this
    is I used to like you just start grading and then as you're grading you notice patterns and you notice
    some people are just not getting certain things and like it's a lot of people are not getting certain
    things or something that you thought was not going to be obvious like almost everybody got
    and learning that kind of stuff helps you calibrate it and then it helps you grade it and I think
    that kind of stuff really like at least for my taste means that you have to kind of grade first
    without scoring anything I go through all the stuff and then you make your rubric or you might
    have like an outline of the rubric but the real rubric for grading for me comes during and after
    I've gone through everything just just because of that calibration and also I mean just I'm kind
    of saying or it was going to kind of say that you know like that is a nice thing that you can do
    and then you do it once and then the next year it's easier but as I'm as I'm talking about this
    it's it's a little more difficult than that because it is certainly it's not even possible it
    every year unless you literally just record yourself and you repeat that you're going to teach
    things a little differently and to me I mean the the way a class works it's much more of a conversation
    than just I mean you're still lecturing but the way that I would want to teach given my drillers
    is that you know you kind of see where the class is and you have really a conversation with people
    you're sitting there and you're sort of learning what people are interested in learning
    where they're coming from and every every time I've taught a class even if it's the same class
    you get like a different flavor it's you know I mean I guess if you had a large enough class
    maybe you start getting like a blend and it sort of averages out but if you have 20 30 people in
    the class you're going to have just just by random fluctuation and chance you're going to have
    some that are really strong in some things some you know one year everybody's got calculus and
    they just got it down and then one year like people barely barely have scratched it and that means
    that the way that you're going to teach stuff if you're actually doing it well is going to change
    and the way that you're going to grade stuff and the rubric that you make is going to change and so
    it ends up being a lot of work to do it well which is one of these things like actually it gets to
    another kind of annoying thing about the giant air quotes audible air quotes AI if you actually
    had like the the best way to teach if you could actually do it would be to have essentially like a
    personal tutor like the idea of an actual artificial intelligence that could know everything about
    you know what you know know how you learn and know how to explain and how to give you like the
    next layer of information on any subject that'd be fucking awesome that would be like you wouldn't
    need to grade or test or do any of that kind of stuff because you could just have that thing
    constantly assess you and the assessment wouldn't really be to score you but it's to the sort of see
    well where do we go next what do you have what are we what are we going to work on and that would be
    that would be great that would be amazing and I do think like you could do something like that in time
    eventually but the shit that people have now that passes for giant again air quotes AI it's
    not artificial intelligence it's not intelligent at all it's just like stochastic parrot nonsense
    literally just pulp from the corpus the stuff that it was trained on and it's it's set up to
    extract statistical patterns from that and then regenerate them or regenerate things that look like
    the training data and so you end up with stuff that I mean it basically just is this
    slop that is to some extent plagiarized from the training data and you know it's not really
    it's not it's I don't know it's it's hard to describe all the ways that it's not actually
    anything that would pass for intelligence and it's one of these things also like I understand
    I mean don't get me wrong I I have also had the same first experience where you start playing with it and you're like
    oh wow this is amazing but I also have had that same experience with infinite screen on
    now blue sky and before Twitter this is just an app like a bot basically that is constantly
    I mean the name kind of says it it's just sort of screaming it's like ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah
    changing the number of ages each time and then if you mention it then it replies also with that
    and it does this in a way that you know obviously there's no intelligence there it's just like
    statistics and like the length of the ages and the delay between when it responds and when you've
    mentioned it change and those things make it feel very much like there's a entity there like
    there's an intelligence but obviously it's just random shit and I think that really gets to the
    magic trick that is this LLN shit because it definitely I agree feels kind of like a person
    feels like you're interacting with something that has a presence in intelligence but what's really
    happening is you're just getting against statistical nonsense and it's generated from stuff that
    was written by people who have intelligence and a perspective and all that kind of stuff so because
    it's coming from that it's able to simulate it it's able to give you something that feels kind of like
    it but then you know that's that's like the first brush you're like wow this is amazing
    I then you start like asking it some questions where you know the answer they're leaving some
    stuff out of your prompt and it really falls apart really fast like it's it's so bad it's all
    so bad it's frustrating to me because a lot of people just don't have like the the understanding of
    stuff to be able to assess it well and a lot of people who are in a position to allocate funds and
    like give give people like sample and fuck tons of money are just taken in by this magic trick
    I don't judge people who are just like random everyday people especially when people are telling
    you like oh this is this is the way to do this I don't I don't judge people for not getting it
    but like VCs the people of the venture capitalists who are giving him money investors these kinds of
    just and it's not just them but I mean like up and down the executive stack of all these massive
    companies and you just have all these people falling for this shit and it's just like I never really
    had a opinion of a lot of you people I never had a high opinion of general CEOs or VPs but you see
    how quickly and easily these people are taken in by again just a cheap magic trick
    and it's just like I don't know it's frustrating it's just fucking frustrating I say this is
    somebody who tried to raise money for something real and failed miserably it's just fucking annoying
    to me that people are selling this shit that you know really is not it's not intelligent at all
    and they got people just buying into it and sending like billions and billions of dollars on this
    crap and you got people the one thing that I do get some hope from is like I'm on Facebook
    I shouldn't be but I got back on for a variety of reasons and I've stayed on for a little while
    for a few reasons but I'm there and I keep seeing always fucking like all these fucking ads
    for this garbage and the comments are like there are some people who like I think they're people
    they might be bots they feel very chilly they're just like you know I don't I don't think they're
    just random people I think they're like people who are involved in some way or they're being paid
    or whatever to say good things usually crap and then you get a fuckload of bots saying
    good things and often they're poorly written like they're all saying the same stuff with the same
    misspelling verbatim and it's just ridiculous which is like if you have an LLM the one thing
    LLMs are good at is generating random crap that kind of sounds and looks superficially right
    you could you could just generate a bunch of comments and the who the fuck is going to look at the
    comments and really delve into them and if the comments are short enough it could be plausible
    but they don't even seem to bother with that they just like throw crap there and it's just so sad
    and then the part that gives me hope though the part that I take some some happiness in
    is that every single one of these has a bunch of people first off a bunch of people
    angry reacting and laughing and second a bunch of people just like crapping on it and often
    like the ones that haven't bothered with the bots or the shills it's just people laughing at it
    or crapping on it in the in the remarks and you know you look at that and it's like how are you
    people not fucking embarrassed to be paying money to show people these fucking ads and it's so lazy
    it's so like you can you can see like somebody is asleep at the wheel they're paying for these things
    they're not cleaning up their responses and then there there are these things where it's like
    weeks old or months old and it's just people crapping on the thing and if you look at that and
    anybody monitoring this shit are you just you just set it up one day and you got to going
    and you're like that paying attention you don't care I don't know if I was if I was selling this crap
    I would at least pretend I would at least like go in and look through that and say oh yeah we
    should delete these comments because these comments are really making us look bad and they don't
    they don't fucking like it's so phoned in and lazy it really offends me it deeply deeply
    offends me and again they're getting paid up scene amounts of money for this shit and it's
    frustrating as fuck anyway if if you could really have like a genuine artificial intelligence
    that would be a great teacher like or it could be but we don't have that you have artificial
    I hate using the words stupidity because it's it's a very ableist language but I'm trying to think
    like what would be an alternative that's not that I'm not sure whatever it is you have just this
    artificial garbage just flock that is just a regurgitated pulp of stuff that is plagiarized mostly
    and it's massively resource intensive and it doesn't actually you know it depends on the
    the one that you're looking at but to some extent or another and often to a very large extent
    it has like no ability to to reason or do anything that's yeah and you look at it it's just like
    such dog shit and it's frustrating again like how do people not see it but anyway if you
    had that it would be it would be the way to teach or it would be a way to teach another thing that
    you could do that we actually could do without having to make that kind of crap is literally what
    I just said learn one or watch one learn what watch one do one teach one so you know you you have a
    physics problem you're learning chemistry and you know you're like well what is the stoichiometry
    of this reaction we have hydrogen gas we have oxygen gas and we're going to mix them together
    in some proportion and given ignition source and the product is going to be water and so you know
    in terms of volume or mass figure out like what is the stoichiometric relationship
    that is to say like what is the proportion of hydrogen that we mix with oxygen
    that when we ignite it forms a certain amount of water and you know maybe not even obviously
    we all know H2O I think and so it's two hydrogen atoms for every oxygen and in reality oxygen is usually
    atomic oxygen but it's O2 gas and the hydrogen is H2 gas so it's still two molecules of H2
    for every molecule of O2 and you know I'm just trying to try to go fit but you know you do this
    and then you figure out like well what is the atomic mass of hydrogen and what is the atomic mass of
    oxygen and then you can figure out like well it's like if you mix I'm just pulling numbers out of
    my ass so apologies if these are wrong and disclaimer that they probably are but you know you have
    like a kilogram of hydrogen and we have like 16 kilograms of oxygen and we mix those together
    and then how much water do you get and how much hydrogen and oxygen are going to be left over
    and yeah you you can figure that out it's a pretty basic problem I give you that and then you
    solve it and then now you know like what the stoichiometric relationship is and how
    molecules work a little bit and you know you just kind of like go from there and so you know like
    the first I do it myself and you watch and then you do one and you know if you have trouble
    then we don't advance to the next step but yeah or if you have questions when you watch
    me do it we don't advance to the next step and then once you've done it and you can do it
    now you teach somebody to do it and if you do that if we all did that with everything
    there are enough people out there and enough people who want to learn and who need to learn
    that we could all just you know do that and teach that way and when you think about it it's like
    why why the fuck do you even need AI for that you can just do it with people like you don't
    need that's that's the kind of thing you could easily easily do I understand to some extent
    why it's not how we do stuff because it's difficult in in the structure of like industrialized
    education sort of way schools work as we at least as we've set them up but it's not that hard
    to do in reality and if you set things up like that and especially if you did it from the
    point where kids were like little and it's like okay well you have watched somebody read this book
    and now you start reading the book to somebody else and now you start teaching somebody else how to read
    and it's it's just stuff that you could you know like teach somebody how to do the
    alphabet and you teach somebody with the sounds are what the shapes are how to write stuff
    and then they they learn it they teach it and you just keep passing stuff on that way
    um you know it's I don't know it's just it's such an obvious simple thing and I will say
    I am not an expert in education despite having taught many times so maybe there are good
    reasons why you can't just do that and obviously also like there are nuances and there are details
    and things are everything is more complicated than it seems on the surface so yeah it's not like
    you can just immediately do that but I feel like there's a way that you could make that kind of work
    and there's no need for the fake AI even if you had the really AI but especially with the
    fake ship anyway I don't want to keep rambling on about this but it's just it's frustrating just I
    I wish that um actually as long as I'm talking about this that teaching part would be a thing
    that I would do I would you know and and if I was doing it the way that I would want to do it
    it would be more combination of a lecture and also a mediation so it's like uh you do a little
    bit of a lecture and then you're also kind of like giving people the ability to do the
    watch one um do one teach one sort of thing and you're just sort of there in case there are
    any any little hiccups any stumbles so anyway that would be one thing I would like to do
    I would definitely give in my dear others I mean I I know that I would like
    well I don't know I think a lot about this because it's like what what would I do
    if I could do anything you could just snap your fingers and then like the works in a certain way
    the thing I mean fundamentally if I could not have to make money and just like
    work on my own stuff that would be preferable to do anything I can then go um you know and
    it which is not to say that I wouldn't do work but it's like I just wish that I didn't have the
    do work and somehow you know convert that to dollars I hate the I hate the dollar conversion part
    um and yeah I just think about like how if you think about like for most of human history
    obviously there are certain things that you kind of have to do like you you'd have to prepare food
    you have to either hunt or garden or food and you know build shelter maintain it all this
    kind of stuff but you could imagine like there was a time where especially
    once people got food forests kind of set up the amount of labor people had to put into that
    versus like modern agriculture where it's extremely labor intensive and chemically and energy intensive
    when people felt food forests they needed to work like legitimately like 10 20 hours a week of
    light work and light work that you're doing with friends and family and once he did that you know
    the food would just kind of like be there and similarly you know at once upon a time you could build
    your own place to live just like go out into the woods and build a place and now you got your place
    and you could just stay there you could just that could be your place and you think about that
    versus now I mean but just the amount of time and money and effort it would take to
    to get a place that is yours and then once you've got it it's not like it's actually actually yours
    because you have property taxes and you have all this other shit and eventually you could
    lose it despite having paid for the whole thing despite having done everything you know the things
    could change and then you follow the rules and then one day like it's not yours anymore
    that's like it's it's still fucked up and the only things that we have now that kind of
    give people the ability to do not have to work and not have the gun to their head to the work
    is essentially stealing other people's labor like having extra properties that are
    technically kind of yours and then you're a landlord and then they pay you for them
    and they they're working to pay you and you're just sitting there doing a very
    minimal amount of effort to maintain them or paying somebody else for it and the rest of it is just
    going into a giant pot and for you and then at the same time also you're paying interest probably
    that interest is going into an even bigger pot for for some rich fucks above you and probably
    another layer on top of that and it's just like it is the way things are so fucked up and
    frustrating versus the way they could be like we could all there's enough there's enough housing
    build that we could all just have a fucking house like or when I say have a house I mean you
    could be an apartment or something but you could live comfortably we could all live comfortably
    and have a space and the only reason that we can't do that is because some people are hoarding
    a fuck ton of space for no reason other than they want to exploit other people like get them
    to work for them and then you think also like and if I had like space and I could just live
    and I could get food then I would teach for free you know I wouldn't I don't need the
    compensation for it I'm not interested I say this a lot but I don't understand the concept of money
    and I really mean that I mean like I understand I have a PhD in physics I understand
    what people think the concept of money is and the currency of exchange and all is kind of stuff
    but it is so far detached like the modern fiat currency so far detached from anything of any real
    value that it's just like it literally just imaginary bullshit it's literally just scores in a computer
    and a database someplace and if you changed those numbers if suddenly you went into the bank
    and completely reshuffled all the the account balances it would change very little especially
    if you like suddenly just yeah let's just give everybody a couple hundred grand it would change
    extremely little it's not like there's some finite pool of of stuff that you can get and and
    and also I mean like there's this whole lie about like supply and demand and the cost of things and
    you know like well if the the lie is basically if you gave everybody a hundred grand the prices
    of everything would just go up and that would read but in reality I don't think that's true I really
    don't think that's true which is another reason that I it's just I don't understand the concept
    of money I think it's just completely made up bullshit and you know like at one point in time maybe
    you had some kind of connection to just something of some kind of value although also there's another
    thing I I know I've talked about this before but but I think that I made an episode about it
    or I mentioned it in that episode but people at one point in time but the story that
    economics professors like the tell and the the capitalist you know fairy tale is basically well
    at one point in time people would do bartering and then they needed that more efficient to
    means of exchange because you know you don't want to have to barter for everything and also if you
    have X and you need Z but you can't actually trade X for Z you can trade X with somebody else for Y
    and the person that trades the Y you can use that Y to trade with the Z and then you and so
    instead of going through that intermediate stuff now you can just convert your X to dollars or whatever
    your currency is and then you can just go directly to Z and the dollars are that's the story that's
    the the the story people tell when you actually look at it historically it's not how things worked
    like for the most part indigenous populations have more like gift economies they don't
    actually like like bartering is this is the thing that happens for certain scarce goods or if you're
    interacting with people like outside of of your community but within the community and especially
    like the community would generally speaking be family and then extended family you're not really
    accounting shit you just kind of oh I've got some extra of this and you need it so here have some
    and you've got some extra of that and then I need it and so you're like here have some or I need some
    shit done and I need a couple extra hands for it and you're around so you help me and you need something
    else done and I'm around and I have to know how to do it and so I help you that's the kind like
    without any kind of accounting going on it's not a transactional sort of thing and when you start
    looking at that you start seeing like oh all of this get that we do and all of the not that
    just purely shit on capitalism but all this idea that we have that like oh it's just natural
    that people barter and all of this stuff and so it's since they're bartering currency makes more
    sense and boy it's all bullshit it's all just made up fucking bullshit and it's it's kind of
    ridiculous and kind of awful and especially also when you start realizing oh people used to go
    or when people went to indigenous communities like colonizers would be these people they go
    someplace in Africa or the Americas or in Asia or South Pacific or wherever they go someplace
    and they find people and the people that they find they're they're they're they're sitting there
    and they're having a lot of leisure time like a ridiculous amount of leisure time they're not
    not really doing like lots of work and you have these European colonists that are sitting there
    and like you lazy assholes right and the truth is like for the most part they figured out ways
    to you know whether it was food forests or some kind of hunting or gathering or whatever that
    did not require a shit ton of effort and so people had and they also like said up shelter
    and the shelter you know it would take bursts of effort to build at some point or if it was
    something elaborate maybe it would take like an ongoing effort over a long period of time but once
    you put that effort in it's done and then it just exists or you know like a burst of effort and
    then it's done and then it just like oh we're gonna raise the barn and then then you get the barn
    and now you've got now you've just you don't have a fucking mortgage on the barn you don't have a
    you know like leaned the to the bank that you don't actually own your own barn you built it
    with the community and I'm kind of mixing things like the if it's still I'm in essentially
    that's kind of how it worked and you look at that and you look at these these fucking settlers
    came in and like fuck you guys you have to change this and they teach this horrible mode of agriculture
    which is this industrial like row monoculture kind of crop stuff which is how most of our
    agriculture is down every now and it's very inefficient it's extremely resource intensive
    and it's basically set up so that like normally in food forests you have an ecosystem
    so you like you might have some pests but you'll have stuff there to eat the pests and you'll have
    stuff for the pests seed and then you'll have like things that kind of keep the deer out of the crop
    that you want or you've got enough extra that they're eating some of it but you're still getting
    what you need and all this kind of stuff and you know like I mean even so far is like stuff
    when it's growing together because it forms an ecosystem this kind of stuff well the simple
    obvious one would be like fixing nitrogen so you don't need fertilizer if you have stuff that's
    fixing nitrogen growing with stuff that needs nitrogen and can't fix it itself now was suddenly
    your need for fertilizer is much much less and you know there's there's stuff that makes the
    water that falls on the rain sort of stick in the soil this soil more and there's stuff that you know
    just like you can you keep going through the list and you start looking at this and it's like when
    you have an ecosystem you don't really need pesticides at least to the same extent and really
    probably at all and you don't need to do a lot of the maintenance stuff you don't need you need
    to like clean things up and make sure that certain things are not growing in certain places
    and make sure that the stuff that you want to grow is okay but other than that and then you
    get the proportions kind of right other than that and like fine tuning you can just get stuff to grow
    almost on its own and like the amount of ongoing effort that it takes is so minimal compared to
    the sort of Western agriculture system that we use and you look at that and you just like I don't
    know it's it's very offensive how just how much more resource intensive it is and it's also
    designed if you do monoculture like that it's basically designed to sap the soil of certain nutrients
    so now because you're growing only one kind of thing that might not fix nitrogen it's extracting
    all of the all the fixed nitrogen from the soil and now you have soil that is after a few cycles
    not able to support anything and you either have to rotate crops or they just everything dies and also
    by the way you're not taking you know it's not just that you're taking the fruits out but you're
    taking all of the stuff out and you're like disposing of it someplace else so all the other minerals
    that are there are just getting pushed off someplace else or you know they're extracted from the soil
    as well and you're just making barren shitty soil versus you could be doing this in a way that
    makes much more sense and works much better it is just I don't know I and also I do want to
    obviously like things were not perfect and I do like having the ability to get surgery if you need
    surgery I like I needed out of the truck to me to get my retina fixed and I like the fact that I could
    do that I like living in a society with that I like having a manufactured computer that I can use
    but I can record this on and share it with you and do work on and all that kind of stuff I like
    that kind of stuff it's kind of nice but you don't need to do it the way that we're doing it like
    we could make things so much better and all of this shit is just shit the people made up
    and a lot of it could be better and you know I'm not saying like we should go back to the way
    things were but why don't we look at the way things were and look at the way things are and improve on
    things and this is also my thing you know I've talked about this before but when you're traveling
    go around and see how other people do shit and recognize the things that you're not doing
    and then steal the good ideas you know like I just had a friend traveling with me around your
    pan for a week last week I think it's now it's a week ago but this was her first time being on a
    train and her remark is just like trains are fucking awesome like having a metro and having
    even without shit concept just having trains to get around the city is fucking awesome and then when
    you have like shinconsen or the Chinese high-speed rail or tijie ve whatever it is it's
    fucking amazing it's like you know and this is just one example of public transit and public goods
    but you can look at other stuff and go around the world and see like oh there are places where
    if you need surgery you don't have to pay for it it's just covered and it's not like that's
    automatically like this giant queue that everybody has to get into and it's you know this big
    train there are places where it's actually kind of works well not none of them are perfect
    and some things are better in some places and some things are better in other places but yeah
    what you could do there's nothing that says that you have to replicate one particular thing you
    can kind of look around see what works and see what doesn't work and then take the best parts
    and figure out the stuff that doesn't work and figure out why it doesn't work
    and replace it or do something better or try something new you can go around and say like well
    everybody having nothing gets stuck on this car thing but everybody having their own private car
    and having to have a car like to get around in the US if you don't have a car you're kind of
    a little bit fucked in a lot of places and the in fact it's a luxury to live places where you
    don't need a car in the US unlike most of the world where if if you live in Tokyo or in Bangkok
    or most of the places that I've visited on this trip or most of the places that I haven't
    visited that are around you know you do not you could just be a random person living some place
    and not having a car is actually not a big deal like you can for the most part get where you want to
    go you can do the things you want to do and it's not like you're going to be like taking
    over to give us amount of time to do it either in fact it's it's easier here not having a car
    for most things to just take the metro and then you get there then it would be to you know you
    pay for parking and then you drive someplace you deal with traffic and then you have to find a parking
    spot and you have to pay for parking there and then it actually is worse it's a worse experience
    to have a car in a lot of places and wait you know and you think about like that the expensive
    having a car the expensive having to have insurance and every car has an individual driver that's not
    that will train because we can't afford to train everybody well and so now the odds of getting in
    a wreck are much higher every car is taking up so much space like you know if you look at like
    how big a car is there's a there's a there's a I I should find it but there's a really nice cartoon
    that I like that sort of shows a road and it shows like this is how many cars or how much space
    this moving this many people and cars with a single driver takes and then this is what it looks
    like if they're all in trains or buses or bicycles and you look at that and it's just so much
    more efficient and you think about like all the time that you're spending in traffic all the the risk
    of damage all the waste of energy and materials and the disposal of all that stuff
    the ecological impact of all that stuff and again you're just like solving a problem that
    everybody has but instead of solving it once for everybody or even even solving it a couple times
    in different ways for everybody you're solving it all individually over and over and over again
    and of course it's going to be ridiculously inefficient and of course it's going to take
    much more space and create a lot more traffic like the amount of people
    is true like if you go on the Tokyo Metro during rush hour it'll be crowded but also there's a
    massive train with 12 cars and a new one comes every like two minutes and each one of those is
    crowded but the amount of people you're moving versus if every one of those people was in a fucking car
    it's it's ridiculous it's completely ridiculous and it's just like seal that fucking idea
    and also like the reason I want people looking at that kind of stuff is because you should be
    fucking pissed you should you should actually be pissed if you live in the US how fucked up things are
    and how needlessly fucked up things are and when you start looking at it too and it's like
    this is things of this way not because people decided to make them that way but mostly because
    like some rich assholes wanted to sell cars and so they ripped up the trolleys and some rich assholes
    had this other interest and so they or yeah in the US like the answer to a lot of stuff
    is also racism so it's like well if you put in public transit system black people get to use it
    too and we can't possibly have that so you know I mean it doesn't take very very much scratching
    when you like I looked in Gilbert for a while and people there are weirdly opposed to the light rail
    coming down there and the light rail so badly just once the turn right like it comes down
    main street in Mesa it just wants to turn right and then go down through downtown Gilbert
    when I say it wants to I mean like I think one day it will I think it's almost inevitable
    but people in Gilbert don't want that and they don't want it because the same reason that they don't
    want something in Scottsdale because they're like oh no if we do that and poor people might come here
    or if we do this then brown people or black people might come here and like I mean they
    they won't necessarily say that openly but that's it's it's clearly what they're thinking
    and the poor one they will say openly so you know you talk to people and it's like oh you're just
    fucking classes than racist and you know it's it's annoying and again I do think
    and I think space at worst I think inevitably one day it will happen just because it's you can slow
    down the future you can delay things you can put up a roadblocks but eventually there are
    things that just make more sense and eventually things get better they don't necessarily have
    to but I do think people on average like making things better and there are reasons like
    eventually you run out of gas like it worst case scenario eventually it's just not going to be
    feasible to have everybody running their own car the energy will not work the amount of resources
    that it takes to do that isn't going to work and so eventually you start getting more densities
    and eventually you start building more public transit because that's what you have to do and it would
    be nice if you just said like well we can see this is going to happen you can see 50 years from now
    there's going to be public transit in Phoenix assuming Phoenix is habitable why not just fucking do it
    now eventually you guys are going to have some kind of universal healthcare why not just fucking do
    why do you have to like delay this stuff and the most annoying thing also is like you get so many
    people who would benefit so much from this who have been convinced that it's bad and that they should
    be against it and they're fighting it and in reality the people who really benefit from not having
    it are an extremely small subset of people and even they even like I mean the episode on
    well I was words have meaning but a lot of it was on like racism and the thing about racism
    and all the stuff that I was talking about even the racists even the people who are
    air quotes winning in that system and I mean this about capitalism too even the air quotes winners
    are suffering because of the system like the system is worse for everybody the system I
    talk about this a lot but I am a pilot and if I want to fly someplace first off the amount
    that it costs to rent a plane even a cheap plane but especially like a kind of nice plane
    the amount that it costs the gas that it uses it's so ridiculous and then you know it takes so much
    more time I have to be trained if the do all this kind of stuff and I'm not moving that many people
    so it gets if you look at like an a380 years and then like that it's actually pretty efficient
    in terms of how far people are going for each kilometer or mild traveled per person but if you
    look at like an individual little like a series or a says not it's you're talking like SUV kind of
    economy for fuel and do you know which is that terrible terrible but it's not great
    and so you look at that and you're like then on top of that and you imagine everybody could do
    that somehow you have you have little microfusion reactors so now everybody can have their own
    private plane well now you still have to get from the airport to someplace and then you have to
    and you think about like all the extra steps versus if we had Shinkansen you know I could travel
    around Arizona and I think about does a lot because I'm gonna be in Arizona and a week and I need
    to get from Phoenix to Flagstaff and then back to Phoenix and if I if I could just take a fucking
    Shinkansen from LA to Phoenix and then take another one to Flagstaff it'd be so much better it'd be
    infinitely better versus also like imagine I have like money's no object I can rent a car or I
    can pay a driver or whatever and I could even have a private jet fly me from LA to the Flagstaff
    and I still like I get to the airport and Flagstaff and now what do I do I have a you have
    a last mile problem versus if you had fucking public transit going to the airport or going from
    the train station you're just fine you're just you it's it's so much better and easier for
    everybody again including the dairy air quotes rich people and of course also also if you fix
    some things like you because there's no reason the things that are terrible about travel
    mostly don't need to be that way you're there are certain things that just kind of need to be
    shitty but there are a lot of things that we make shitty for the sake of making them shitty like they
    don't need to be as bad as they are you don't need security to be as terrible as it is
    you could make you could solve the problem which we actually do have of needing some degree of security
    and do it in a way that is not fucking horrible and you can kind of see this because there's like
    TSA precheck in global entry and all this kind of stuff you could just do it for everybody there's no
    there's no real reason not to do it for everybody and instead we make everybody you know you've
    got grandma taking off her shoes because that's a problem you got people dumping their water because
    somehow magically my two liters of water is going to become a bomb like it which is just fucking ridiculous
    it's just like it's not that it's not possible but if somebody is going to do that and that
    determined they'll find another way really and probably probably not going to make like a
    peroxide compound or whatever it is um that is a liquid and then have a binary chemical or whatever
    to you know it's it's like you can do it but it's it's more like a theoretical thing it's not like a
    real thing and then the shoe thing is just like some one asshole tried to let us shoes on fire one time
    and now everybody from then on has to take off their shoes but but if you get through the TSA precheck
    thing you no longer have to take off your shoes because reasons yeah it's just that the whole thing
    is between security theater and just bullshit the look I'm slurring there anyway I'd probably need
    to eat and I definitely it's 18 now oh eight right now and it is my last night and uh in Tokyo so
    I feel like I should probably go out and do something although I don't know I'm kind of content
    just staying in but I feel like I should do something because it's like you know lose that
    opportunity um definitely at least gets something to eat um and with that I will talk to you later
    I'm really sleepy I'm so not looking forward to I'm not looking forward to uh deflying back it's
    it's such a it's kind of funny because it's like on one hand I do understand either the funny thing
    is I was going to call this inflections I never even got the fucking inflections uh the inflections part
    well actually it'll finish this and I'll get through the inflections cap that often and get
    the I can't I can't believe him an hour in and I didn't even think about this actually I
    felt good I mean I'm going to get to the inflections so the inflections thing the re and I'm just
    going to blast through this but the the idea there was just that uh there are certain times
    whether it's societally or in your own life you know you could you could change things dramatically
    almost any time there there are wherever you are whatever you're doing you could make a move that
    changes the the course of your life especially if it's a destructive move like if it's something
    damaging to yourself or others you could do that you could choose to but you could make like a big
    change and like you could decide to move someplace and figure out how to do it or I could decide
    I'm going to go on a trip and be away for two months and these like you could do that any time
    but there are times when you're kind of an inflection point and at these inflection points
    it doesn't take like that much effort doesn't take that much energy they're just kind of like a
    point where you can kind of push things a little bit one way or another and it rolls downhill
    from there it's kind of like a saddle point so you're in a you can imagine like you're at the top of
    mountain and once you're down in the valley if you want to you could be in the valley which is
    kind of like where you are most of the time you can climb up a mountain I don't have the edges of the
    valley and then really change things but it takes a lot of doing it takes a lot of discipline and
    care and concern and all of that or you know if you happen to be at a place where you're like
    at the top of the hill or at a hill where you can go left or right it might take exactly the
    same like you're at the the fork in the road and both paths are going downhill both paths take
    about the same amount of energy and right now or they you know you never know maybe down the road
    one will take a lot more and one will take a lot less but right now both are going to be about
    the same amount of effort and you could just choose and that is that is what I was kind of
    talk about with inflections and my whole my whole thing there was just going to be like you
    you know like I could just not get on the plane tomorrow I could do that and then things would be
    very different I'm going to obviously but there are things like that that you could do so you can
    inflect things anytime but you can also like I found myself ending with my kind of miserable
    job ending and in a place where I could have fit for the amount of money that I've spent traveling
    I could have lived in Arizona in my same situation with my car and all that kind of stuff
    I could have gotten about to October maybe maybe maybe November and then I'd run out of money
    or I could have done what I did and I did that and I'm actually I feel really glad that I did
    it I feel I don't it does help that I don't understand the concept of money but I don't feel
    any regrets about like what I've spent money on or what I've done to in the last couple of months
    the only thing that I kind of wish is just a I really want to figure out a way to I'm not saying
    I want to live as I have been the last couple of months because it's it's more of a vacation
    but to be able to travel a little bit or just to be someplace else and have some flexibility
    and that not be somebody else's bitch so to be in a sort of speak that have the boss with the
    gun to your head that you know like if you don't do the asshole of shit that I'm forcing
    you to do then you're gonna be out on the street and you're gonna go or in my case not on the street
    but have to live this is I'm actually wrapping up with the stuff that I started on I have places
    to stay but you know I will be in a place where I don't have my own space for a little while
    I'm not I'm not looking forward to that I'm really not and then I have an opportunity to go
    someplace else where I would have my own space but it would be like in the middle of the
    fucking nowhere and it's like okay then how the fuck do I get out of there how do I how do I travel
    anywhere from there um like it's it's very different than like if I if I had a place here even if
    it was a modern or modest place or or in Paris or whatever you can get around you have the city
    to do stuff and and you can you can wander you could hang out with people you got people to hang
    out with versus like you're in the middle of the desert and there's not really many people around
    and what are you gonna do and that just doesn't sound just not sound appealing to me
    being stuck being stuck in Gilbert and you know like hey what am I doing there I'm not sure
    be when I'm there like I need a car or you know dealing with the transit there is a fucking nightmare
    especially if you're getting anywhere that is not on a transit line which is most places
    and like I just am thinking about like what why do I want to be what do I want to do
    and I'm at kind of an inflection point I really I need to figure out what to what to do next that's
    kind of what I was what I was saying anyway I don't want to ramble on about this for too much
    longer because I am getting I'm I'm ready to eat something now kind of wild it's my last I could
    I could eat someplace for lunch tomorrow I guess but this will probably be my last sort of
    niceish meal in Tokyo um I don't know I'm probably not gonna spend like ridiculous amount of money
    it's been a tiny bit that is actually one thing about like Tokyo and in so many places outside
    of the US like the rent here is not cheap but it's cheaper than LA to be that guess it depends on
    where you stay but I could live here more cheaply than I could live in LA for sure and I would be
    more comfortable I would have the the Metro and the Shinkansen and then when you look at like the
    cost of food even if you go someplace is like I mean that don't come here wrong you can go to a
    sushi restaurant and spend like 80,000 yen for person you could you could do that but you can also
    just go and you can on the other extreme get like ramen for a few hundred yen but for 500 to
    a thousand yen you can get a pretty decent meal or 1500 yen if you're um you can get a pretty decent
    meal and if you had the kitchen and all that kind of stuff it wouldn't be that hard to to make
    a pretty good food here and it wouldn't be that expensive and yeah I'm not just trying to talk
    myself in the the staying here necessarily I'm not that I'm staying here but I'm obviously going
    back but the getting stuff set up so there would be here but I'm looking at different places
    and I'm considering where it would be and I definitely know wherever I go the thing that I want
    I mean I want to be able to spend time with my mom and sister that's a big one but I really
    I really want to just be someplace where I don't need to make a ridiculous amount of money to be
    comfortable and I can just I can have my own space and reasonably well and have stuff that I can
    do and I have to have a car I really really don't want to have a car again and it's like maybe
    one day I will but if I could avoid it I would be glad to not have one I didn't have a car before
    I got married in my wife her ex-wife wanted to not be the only one that drove so I learned how to
    drive but I was in my 20s and I think I would have been fine never learning how to drive truly
    I could have just like not done it and it would have been a big deal and if I lived in a different
    society or in a place where there was public transit then I didn't have to then I why would you have
    a car why would you want to it's it's one of these things like in the US you think about like what
    people think is freedom and what are the things that you're aspiring to and a lot of them are just
    silly a lot of them are kind of ridiculous a lot of them you know like oh you're gonna
    just to I don't know why this one came up but you're gonna have a big wedding and people look
    like thinking about how much you're gonna spend on the wedding and how the wedding's gonna go
    and all this kind of stuff I did you spend like a ridiculous amount of money more money than
    sometimes people make in a year or several years on a wedding or on a fucking ring or something
    like that and then like what what was the point of that is it something that was really you know
    I mean there are things that I keep coming back to travel but the like travel I don't feel like
    is waste of money I I feel like it was it's money will spend spending time with people
    to the extent that it costs money to to do that or having meals with people and kind of stuff
    there there are things like that that feel like they're good and useful and worth
    whatever you're putting in having my computer having a nice computer that works and that you
    can use and all this kind of stuff actually and I I don't regret spending money on my computer
    I wish that I I wish well I wish that it was like an open source thing that was more compatible
    and didn't have like enriching Apple and have this weird conflict between Apple and Google and
    all the layers of bullshit there but I still I still feel pretty decent about it I don't feel
    like bad about it and I don't know they're just like having well I I don't want to go into
    to those because especially it's it's an hour ten minutes in but I was going to talk about like
    gone I was it was just like having a little mental flight back to Kyoto and when my friend
    and I were there walking around we passed a place and there was ridiculous and there was a couple
    of different compounds but a couple like ridiculous ridiculous places you know like people have
    the house and they have like a giant yard and they have maybe a guest house and some other stuff
    and you just look at that and don't give it wrong I I wouldn't mind if money was no object
    and resources were I I wouldn't mind that but also like what do you really need do you really
    need that I don't know I think you can be comfortable with with a lot less and you know what is
    really worth putting putting resources and time and effort into and I think also like the amount
    this is this is probably going to be the last thing that I talked about here today but like
    the amount of money that I've made and various points in my life like my my last job was not
    paid that well but was still better than a lot of people that were probably harder than I did
    but you know I've had jobs where I mean pretty significant amount of money for a little while
    and yet the the stuff that I had to show for it and the stuff that I was doing with that money
    was kind of silly it was not and I don't even mean like extravagant purchases or ridiculous stuff
    although the car that I had was such a fucking waste of money so too I just like I regret that
    one deeply I enjoyed it a little bit and it was nice driving people around it was nice having a
    thing to get around Phoenix but if I didn't have to have that car like the amount of extra money
    that I would have or the money that would have gone to paying student loans or like credit card
    debt or whatever it is just like why would you sink those resources into that and you just convert
    again I don't understand the concept of money but I do understand that is equivalent to the
    this much of your life that you're putting into to work or whatever and you just think about
    like is it really worth I would rather not have to put in that and just have you know like a certain
    amount that covers my needs and then have the rest of the time be like leisure time and my leisure time
    might end up being putting stuff together like this or writing programs or you know like all
    there you could be whatever random stuff but it doesn't necessarily have to be like converted to
    you have to do this in order to make money in order to not be on the street or in order to get your
    eye fixed or whatever and it's just like I don't know it it's it's interesting to me but I am
    I'm so fucking tired I hope it doesn't come across that I'm tired because I'm like you know
    A I don't have notes for this so it's probably a little rambly and then B like I don't think it's
    obvious obvious but I am like struggling here I'm just like sleepy and with that I think
    I'm gonna go get something to eat and I'm gonna fly back tomorrow and at this time
    and 24 hours from now I will be like halfway back to LA which is fucking wild
    at least unlike my friend I don't have a six hour layover when I get there and then a flight
    to Phoenix I just have the the main flight so I feel bad for her that she had to do that although
    still like it's one of those things like it everything is interminable and it goes on forever
    and then it's over and it's it's a very weird it's right up there with my thing that's like
    you know everything is either impossible or trivial if you want once you understand how to do
    calculus it's actually pretty fucking easy and before you learn how to do it if you wanted to
    if you wanted to take limits or figure out the volume of certain things it could be fucking impossible
    and I mean you think about Lengzino's paradoxes and people spent hundreds of years thinking
    about these things and they never came up with limits and then all of a sudden Newtonian
    11 minutes came up with calculus and now it just becomes like oh well yeah you're taking
    Zeno's paradoxes I guess I should say if you're listening and you don't know this is just the idea
    a few of them but basically the idea is you can never get from A to B because first you have to get
    halfway there and then you have to get halfway from where you are to the next place and then you have
    to get halfway from there to the next place and so on and so on and they're infinitely many
    halfway theirs the thing that that loses is of course each one you're if you're going at a constant
    speed first you travel half the distance and it takes half the time and then next one you're
    traveling a quarter of the distance which is half the remaining distance and it takes a quarter
    of the time which is after remaining time and each time you're taking half of the the time
    remaining to go half of the distance and it basically works out to be a limit and it ends up being
    just a finite amount of time and it's actually is pretty simple but people struggled with this
    and couldn't figure it out for I want to say centuries but I think like over a thousand years
    people didn't get it and all of a sudden it's like oh it's just a limit and you just look at
    stuff like that and it's like that there are just so many things like that and I think life is
    very much like that as well like I'm sure whatever I'm doing a year or two from now will
    seem probably in some sense trivial compared to thinking about what to do
    certainly well I guess the the only options are either I figure something out or I'm completely
    and probably in a figure something out I hope I hope although I don't know we'll see we'll see
    with that thanks is ever for listening and the next time I talk to you I will probably be back in the
    US I can't I can't believe that I I was so glad to the spend a week with my friend here though
    that was that was nice I really enjoyed that I I always think people should travel just in general
    and I'm somebody like I love my I love my own company I love spending time with myself and I don't
    really need that much interaction with people and a lot of people annoy me like in any significant
    amount of time I kind of get tired of a lot of people her I did not get tired of and I really enjoyed
    I enjoyed her company in spending time walking around with her and doing stuff so anyway that was
    it was nice I I know I've said that before but it is just yeah just thinking about it again
    but with that thanks again and talk to you soon it's at you

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