Smile Doctors Off Mute

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  • EP2509 | Hi-Tech and High-Touch: How I Lead My Awesome Team
    How Does a People-First IT Leader Succeed in a Field That Values Sameness?

    As Chief Technology Officer for the world’s largest network of leading orthodontists, Jenni Doyle’s motto is “one size fits one.” Where most IT pros take a cookie-cutter approach to tech, Jenni and her team put people first. 

    From writing her first computer program at age 12 to now leading as one of the few female CTOs, Jenni’s boundary-pushing mentality has shaped her vision for collaborative and relational IT. Tune in to hear:

    📞 How IT can go beyond troubleshooting to become consultants

    👀 When noticing matters 
    🌱 Why we're obligated to help people grow 

    Whether you’re tech-savvy or filming an accidental Facebook Live as we speak, you'll glean golden leadership insights from this episode!

    HIGHLIGHTS:

    1. Meet Jenni Doyle – Fun Q/A (00:00:42)
    2. Jenny’s Journey to Smile Doctors (00:08:21)
    3. Leadership in a Male-Dominated Field (00:20:32)
    4. Innovations in Patient Care Technology (00:30:13)
    5. Enhancing the Patient Experience (00:37:49)
    6. The Importance of Information Security (00:40:19)
    7. Leveraging Data for Better Outcomes (00:44:26)
    8. MORE INFO:

      Smile Doctors opportunities: https://smiledoctorspartners.com/ 

      Email Jenni Doyle: [email protected]

      Email Dr. Scott Law: [email protected]

       

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      48 min
    9. EP2508 | What 10,000 Smiles Taught Us About Treating Adults
      Can Convenience and Clinical Excellence Coexist?

      It’s a story that will live in industry infamy: the rise and fall of some of the largest DIY aligner companies — and what about all those suffering patients?  

      After meeting many who were lured in by compelling marketing and the promise of ultimate convenience, Dr. Zach Casagrande of Northern Virginia Orthodontics, the global leader in Invisalign® treatment, became dedicated to finding a safe way to serve patients desiring quick, cosmetic results. In 2018, he founded Smile Express®.  

      On this episode, we're opening our internal-only vault for a very special reason: the first-ever panel episode of the Smile Doctors Off Mute Podcast. Listen as Dr. Law leads a conversation with Dr. Zach Casagrande, Dr. Amanda Gallagher, Dr. David Jones, and Dr. Jessica Itani — four of our leading Smile Express® providers — to discuss the industry-shifting effects of adult aligner treatment.  

      We weren't sure if this vault episode would make it to the public's ears, so this panel episode is truly a must-listen for any ortho who wants to stay on the cutting edge and learn how to ride the tides of the transition toward ultra-convenient orthodontic treatment methods. 

       

      HIGHLIGHTS:
      1. The Birth of Smile Express (00:03:54)
      2. Patient Awareness and Education (00:07:52)
      3. Convenience and Safety for All Patients (00:12:38)
      4. Understanding the Cosmetic Focus (00:18:06)
      5. The Importance of Education (00:27:55)
      6. Overcoming Skepticism in the Industry (00:32:59)
      7. Addressing Misconceptions (00:37:29)
      8. The Bottom Line on What Smile Express Is (00:44:36)
      9. MORE INFO:

        Smile Doctors opportunities: https://smiledoctorspartners.com/ 

        Email Dr. Zach Casagrande: [email protected]

        Northern Virginia Orthodontics in Virginia: https://nvorthodontics.com/

        Email Dr. David Jones: [email protected]

        Roanoke Valley Orthodontics in Roanoke and Rocky Mount, Virginia: https://roanokevalleyortho.com/

        Find, Follow, and Message Dr. Jessica Itani on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.shoesnsmiles/

        Find, Follow, and Message Dr. Amanda Gallagher on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/agortho/

        Amanda Gallagher Orthodontics in Baltimore, MD: https://www.agortho.com/

        Email Dr. Scott Law: [email protected]

         

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        48 min
      10. EP2507 | The Undercover Hero
        What if Your First Job Out of Residency Didn’t Come With the Added Pressure of Feeling Like You Needed to Have It All Figured Out?

        Fresh out of residency, Dr. Andrew Syvertsen knew he wanted more than just a job — he wanted a career where he could lead, connect, and keep growing. But he also didn’t want to figure everything out on his own.

        On this episode of Smile Doctors Off Mute, Dr. Syvertsen joins Dr. Scott Law to talk about the challenges of launching a career in orthodontics — and how Smile Doctors helped him find his footing. They dive into lessons learned on building confidence as a young doctor, fostering a culture of transparency, and creating a career path that fits your goals (not someone else’s).

        Along the way, Dr. Syvertsen shares stories from his journey through dental school at Columbia, residency in Brooklyn, and his move from New York to Texas — plus how his love for music and family helps him keep life in balance.

        His journey offers hard-won lessons and advice from lived experiences for anyone starting out in orthodontics:

        • True leadership starts with transparency, trust, and communication.
        • There's no one-size-fits-all path to success — your career can (and should) fit you.
        • Support systems matter — for your clinical skills and your personal growth.
        • Whether you’re just starting out in your career or looking for new inspiration, this conversation is packed with tips for finding independence without the isolation and leadership without the overwhelm.

          HIGHLIGHTS:
          1. The Road to Orthodontics (00:01:26)
          2. Discovering a Passion for Smiles (00:05:05)
          3. How Waiting Tables Prepared Me for Orthodontics (00:07:43)
          4. Transitioning to Orthodontic Residency (00:13:00)
          5. Embracing the Smile Doctors Community (00:17:00)
          6. The Importance of Collaboration (00:21:10)
          7. The Role of Systems and Processes (00:22:07)
          8. Metrics That Matter (00:26:17)
          9. Patient Care and Satisfaction (00:31:19)
          10. Advice for Aspiring Orthodontists (00:41:45)
          11. It's All About the Patients (00:48:14)
          12. Fun Q&A Plus a Look at Dr. Syvertsen's Spotify Playlists (00:49:35)
          13. MORE INFO:

            Smile Doctors opportunities: https://smiledoctorspartners.com/ 

            Email Dr. Andrew Syvertsen: [email protected]

            Wired Orthodontics in Austin, TX: https://wiredorthodontics.com/

            Dr Syvertsen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/user/syvertsa

            Email Dr. Scott Law: [email protected]

             

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            1 hr 2 min
          14. EP2506 | I'm Just Getting Started: Stories from an OG Smile Doctor
            What's it Like to Be an "OG" Smile Doctor? 

            As the very first orthodontist to join Smile Doctors, Dr. Dal Margeson went all-in on an unknown venture. Through years of sweat equity in Smalltown, USA, he earned the trust of his community and dental partners, and the distinction of being a forerunner in our industry-leading OSO.

            On this episode of the Smile Doctors Off Mute Podcast, Dr. Margeson joins Dr. Scott Law to chronicle the growth he’s seen in our organization since its inception and discuss the career-changing effects of being part of the nation’s leading network of orthodontists. 

            From uncertain beginnings to a practice that has doubled in size in just 8.5 years, Dr. Margeson’s story of trust and hard work is a can’t-miss. 

            HIGHLIGHTS:
            1. Joining Smile Doctors (00:02:33)
            2. Learning to Fly — on the Fly (00:04:49)
            3. Dr. Margeson's Influence on Smile Doctors (00:08:57)
            4. Strength in Numbers (00:13:04)
            5. Leadership and Team Impact (00:17:51)
            6. Connecting with Patients (00:21:07)
            7. Optimism for the Future (00:28:56)
            8. Advice for New Affiliates (00:31:30)
            9. Fun Q & A (00:34:15)
            10. MORE INFO:

              Smile Doctors partnership opportunities: https://smiledoctorspartners.com/ 

              Email Dr. Dal Margeson: [email protected]

              Email Dr. Scott Law: [email protected]

               

              Monetization ID HNC9FIUDJ5JZNQY4

               

              42 min
            11. EP2505 | Orthodontics is a Team Sport: We Grow Together
              What Does It Take to Go from Total Beginner to Industry Leader?

              On this episode of Smile Doctors: Off Mute, Dr. Scott Law sits down with Shelli McNabb, VP of Operations Excellence for Smile Doctors. Shelli’s journey into orthodontics wasn’t just unexpected — it was a complete pivot.

              She once dreamed of being a second-grade teacher, but life had other plans. As a single mom of four starting over in a new city, she needed a career fast. With no experience in the field, she took a chance on orthodontics and never looked back. From learning the ropes on day one to helping build a startup practice from scratch, Shelli’s path has been shaped by resilience, adaptability, and the mentors who pushed her to grow.

              Now, her mission is to make life easier for clinical teams by eliminating inefficiencies and streamlining processes — because great patient care starts with great systems. In this episode, she shares how asking the right questions leads to smarter, more effective workflows, and why she believes true leadership is all about service.

              Whether you’re early on in your career or also find yourself at a crossroads, you’ll take away impactful lessons from their conversation, like:

              • The difference between having a mentor and having an advocate (and why you need both!)
              • How to embrace the unknown and adapt to sudden change, in work and in life
              • Why leadership isn’t about titles — it’s about empowering others to step up to the plate
              • Tune in to this inspiring episode with Shelli for a story of hard-earned wisdom and the power of saying yes to new opportunities.

                KEY TAKEAWAYS:
                1. Shelli's Journey into Orthodontics (00:00:08)
                2. Sink or Swim: Shelli Dives into Ortho (00:03:33)
                3. Becoming a Key Player (00:06:31)
                4. Lessons from Startups (00:10:34)
                5. Growth through Challenges (00:14:22)
                6. Embracing Change Management (00:18:58)
                7. Operationalizing Ideas (00:23:32)
                8. Building Efficient Treatment Plans (00:28:44)
                9. Mentorship and Leadership (00:34:53)
                10. Philosophy of Servant Leadership (00:36:40)
                11. Work/Life Passion (00:37:50)
                12. MORE INFO:

                  Smile Doctors partnership opportunities: https://smiledoctorspartners.com/ 

                  Email Shelli McNabb: [email protected]

                  Email Dr. Scott Law: [email protected]

                   

                  Monetization ID HNC9FIUDJ5JZNQY4

                   

                  43 min
                13. EP2504 | They Created a Lean, Mean Ortho Machine
                  Can You Boost Efficiency Without Sacrificing Care?

                  Adopting Invisalign® in 1999 and growing to be two of the top providers in the world, Dr. Damon DeArment and Dr. Dan Lill are no strangers to new technologies. But it was when they coupled their passion for early-adoption with dynamic scheduling, two-phase treatment, and team-member buy-in that their clinical efficiency truly began to soar.

                   

                  The orthodontists behind Shenandoah Valley Orthodontics are proving that efficiency doesn’t equal cutting corners, and when the systems are built to serve the doctor and team, the patient is the ultimate beneficiary.

                   

                  On this episode of the Smile Doctors Off Mute podcast, Dr. DeArment and Dr. Lill join Dr. Scott Law to share their blueprint for patient-centric systems that make doctors' lives easier. Listen in as they discuss:  

                   
                  🔑 The key to efficiency (spoiler: it’s education) 
                  🌱 How to treat your patients like you’d treat your kids 
                  🥼 Why it takes a “mini-residency” program to teach your team to think like an orthodontist 

                  Looking for practical advice on how to get that weight off your shoulders?

                  This episode is for you!

                  KEY TAKEAWAYS:
                  1. Finding the Ideal Partner (00:00:56)
                  2. Evolving Practice Operations (00:05:36)
                  3. Embracing Technology (00:08:37)
                  4. Patient-Centric Technology (00:13:18)
                  5. Educating Referring Dentists (00:17:02)
                  6. The Value of Early Treatment (00:19:45)
                  7. Building Patient Confidence (00:28:58)
                  8. Advice for Other Orthodontists (00:30:22)
                  9. Importance of Team Training (00:34:05)
                  10. Empowering the Team (00:38:25)
                  11. The Power of Partnership (00:46:34)
                  12. Reflections on Growth (00:48:34)
                  13. MORE INFO:

                    Smile Doctors partnership opportunities: https://smiledoctorspartners.com/ 

                    Shenandoah Valley Orthodontics: https://www.shenandoahortho.com/

                    Email Dr. DeArment: [email protected]

                    Email Dr. Dan Lill: [email protected]

                    Email Dr. Scott Law: [email protected]

                     

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                    51 min
                  14. EP2503 | The Purpose-Led Life: How I'm Learning to Live with Intention
                    Is Work-Life Balance a Real Thing?

                    For Dr. Jacquee Schieck of Schieck Orthodontics in Northfield, Minnesota, living with purpose is not about doing everything; it’s about focusing on the right things. As an orthodontist, a leader, a mother, and even a bassist and vocalist for the all-orthodontist band Relapse, Dr. Schieck knows firsthand how challenging it can be to juggle the demands of work, family, and personal passions. But over the years, she’s discovered that true balance doesn’t come from squeezing more onto the to-do list, but from setting clear priorities and leading with intention.

                    On this episode of Smile Doctors Off Mute, Dr. Schieck sits down with Dr. Scott Law to share what she’s learned about creating a meaningful, fulfilling life. As a lifelong perfectionist, Dr. Schieck has worked to overcome the pressure to do everything flawlessly — learning instead that growth and rest go hand in hand. She also opens up about how trusting others has helped her grow as a leader and create an environment where patients don’t just receive treatment but feel genuinely valued and empowered.


                    If you’ve ever struggled with feeling stretched too thin or unsure how to lead with confidence while keeping your personal life intact, Dr. Schieck’s perspective will inspire you to rethink what it means to truly live a purpose-led life.

                    KEY TAKEAWAYS:
                    1. Getting to Know Dr. Jackie Schieck (00:01:20)
                    2. The Culture of Care (00:04:17)
                    3. Values and Intentions (00:07:19)
                    4. The Pressure of Perfectionism (00:12:09)
                    5. A "Really Real Season" (00:26:00)
                    6. Time Management Tips (00:34:06)
                    7. The Wellness Wheel (00:42:50)
                    8. The Triple Win of Technology (00:49:10)
                    9. Prioritizing Self-Care (00:56:14)
                    10. The Growth Journey (00:57:00)
                    11. MORE INFO:

                      Smile Doctors partnership opportunities: https://smiledoctorspartners.com/ 

                      Schieck Orthodontics: https://www.schieckortho.com/

                      Email Dr. Schieck: [email protected]

                      Find, follow, and message Dr. Schieck on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.schieck/

                      Email Dr. Law: [email protected]

                       

                      Monetization ID HNC9FIUDJ5JZNQY4

                       

                      1 hr 10 min
                    12. EP2502 | You vs. You: Faith, Fitness, and Finding Balance
                      Is it Possible to Thrive — Not Just Survive — Through Life’s Struggles?

                      As a child who was bullied for her smile, Dr. Colby Cajero is a first-generation college student turned doctor who has dedicated her life to helping others find the healthiest, most confident versions of themselves. Although no one can anticipate life’s many curveballs, she is the picture of perseverance through them. 


                      After facing the adversity of losing her parents and battling breast cancer, Dr. Cajero has undergone a life-changing health journey that’s as encouraging as it is inspirational. From bodybuilder to finding balance, Dr. Cajero shares with Dr. Law how her faith in God’s plan has been an integral part of finding perspective and achieving greatness amid heartbreak:


                      ❌ How to avoid “succumbing to the suck” 
                      🌦️ Why faith is essential to reshape our perspective 
                      🥦 What it looks like to move "beyond the Tupperware” & achieve balance

                       

                      If it feels like it’s you against the world — or you want to be fired up enough to run through a wall — you’ll love this episode.

                      KEY TAKEAWAYS:
                      1. Overcoming Bullying and Finding Her Passion (00:00:54)
                      2. Navigating Life Through the COVID Pandemic (00:02:18)
                      3. The Superhero in the Room (00:03:54)
                      4. Discovering Bodybuilding (00:05:41)
                      5. A Cluster of Life Challenges (00:10:50)
                      6. Finding Strength in Faith (00:11:19)
                      7. Persevering Through Life's Curveballs (00:18:57)
                      8. Holy Cow! This is for Real! (00:20:48)
                      9. Balancing Life and Fitness (00:29:05)
                      10. You vs. You: How Bodybuilding Makes Me a Better Orthodontist (00:31:57)
                      11. Control What You Can Control (00:35:15)
                      12. An Amazing, Surprising Miracle (00:42:33)
                      13. MORE INFO:

                        Smile Doctors partnership opportunities: https://smiledoctorspartners.com/ 

                        Find, follow, and message Dr. Colby Cajero on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr_colburt/

                        Get inspired by Dr. Cajero's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvfxPja50OtEKNit5ib8U-w

                        Email Dr. Scott Law: [email protected]

                         

                        Monetization ID HNC9FIUDJ5JZNQY4

                        48 min
                      14. EP2501 | Best of 2024 (Preview of 2025)
                        What Was Your Favorite Off-Mute Moment of 2024?

                        That’s a wrap on 2024! On this special episode, we revisit interviews that shaped the first 9 months of Smile Doctors Off Mute, hosted by Dr. Scott Law.

                        From clinical advancements and improving patient care to navigating practice management and professional growth, these highlights capture the heart of our podcast’s mission: creating a space for open, unscripted conversations that inspire and inform orthodontists at every stage of their careers.

                        Over the past 9 months, Dr. Scott Law has hosted an all-star lineup of guests, sparking candid discussions about the future of orthodontics, the power of innovation, and the lessons learned along the way. Dr. Zach Casagrande set the record straight on common misconceptions about OSOs, while Dr. John Lippincott shared the highs and lows of affiliating with one — and why it ultimately transformed his practice. Dr. Shad Hanis revealed how prioritizing authentic relationships over quick wins drives sustainable growth, and Dr. Ben Fishbein offered proven strategies for scaling practices in today’s competitive landscape. Listeners also heard from Dr. Jack Devereux and Dr. Phuong Nguyen about their inspiring evolution from mentorship to partnership, and Dr. Jessica Itani shared her journey from residency to thriving with the world’s top Invisalign® provider. These episodes are just a few that showcase the diverse career paths and shared challenges that define modern orthodontics.

                        We’ll also take a look ahead to 2025, with a glimpse of the upcoming topics and guests as we continue to explore what’s possible in our field. Whether you’re catching up or tuning in for the first time, this episode is the perfect way to celebrate the year’s best moments and gear up for what’s next. 

                        TOP OFF MUTE MOMENTS FROM 2024:
                        1. What Smile Doctors Off Mute is (and Isn’t), from EP2401 with Dr. Scott Law (00:00:53)
                        2. Prosthodontics: The Future of Orthodontics, from EP2411 with Dr. Jep Paschal (00:01:22)
                        3. Practice Pearls from the Ortho Odd Couple, from EP2412 with Drs. Jack Devereux and Phuong Ngyuen (00:02:28)
                        4. Patients Aren’t the Priority, from EP2410 with Dr. Farah Kar (00:04:08)
                        5. Major Affiliation Pain Points (and Solutions), from EP2408 with Dr. John Lippincott (00:04:54)
                        6. Joining an OSO Straight Out of Residency, from EP2405 with Dr. Josh Adcox (00:06:18)
                        7. Get Comfortable with Being Uncomfortable, from EP2409 with Dr. Amanda Gallagher (00:08:58)
                        8. My Best Career Move Ever, from EP2402 with Dr. Zach Casagrande (00:11:10)
                        9. Dental Relationships Matter to Your Success in Orthodontics, from EP2407 with Dr. Shad Hanis (00:17:29)
                        10. De Novo Pain Points, from EP2404 with Dr. Ben Fishbein (00:24:02)
                        11. Import Questions for Prospective Affiliate Orthodontists, from EP2403 with Drs. Ryan Hurley and Tonya Volk (00:29:28)
                        12. Dr. Jessica Itani on Her Future in Orthodontics, from EP2413 (00:33:27)
                        13. A Look at What's Ahead for the Smile Doctors Off Mute Podcast in 2025 (00:35:10)
                        14. MORE INFO:

                          Smile Doctors partnership opportunities: https://smiledoctorspartners.com/ 

                           

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                          36 min
                        15. EP2413 | Surprising Things I Learned In My First Year As A Practicing Orthodontist
                          How is Life as a Practicing Orthodontist Different from Residency?

                          Dr. Jessica Itani is bringing big sister energy to orthodontics. A powerhouse associate with the world's leading Invisalign® provider, Dr. Itani was the youngest doctor to lecture at the 2024 Invisalign® Ortho Summit in Las Vegas — just 3.5 years after graduation.  

                          Now, she joins Dr. Law on the Smile Doctors Off Mute podcast to discuss lessons learned since jumping into her career. Through their engaging conversation, discover how Dr. Itani transitioned from a small-town upbringing to Georgetown University and eventually became a dynamic presence in orthodontics. Learn about her professional evolution from graduating residency in 2021, adjusting to intense patient volumes, and her growth at Northern Virginia Orthodontics (NVO), the top Invisalign® provider since 2019. 

                          Dr. Itani is no stranger to saying yes to things that stretch her, and our time with her is proof that hard work, mentorship, and the continuous pursuit of improving patient care have all played critical roles in her professional development. Tune in for an inspiring discussion that offers valuable lessons for practitioners at any stage of their careers! 

                          KEY TAKEAWAYS:
                          1. Dr. Itani's Journey to Orthodontics (00:00:37)
                          2. Transitioning from Residency to Private Practice (00:03:42)
                          3. Embracing High Patient Volume (00:08:17)
                          4. Special Events for New Patients (00:14:05)
                          5. Professional Growth Through Speaking (00:15:37)
                          6. Personal Growth and Delegation (00:20:50)
                          7. Advice for New Orthodontists (00:23:56)
                          8. Hobbies and Personal Interests (00:26:54)
                          9. Future Outlook (00:29:10)
                          10. MORE INFO:

                            Smile Doctors partnership opportunities: https://smiledoctorspartners.com/ 

                            Northern Virginia Orthodontics: https://nvorthodontics.com/

                            Email Dr. Jessica Itani: [email protected]

                            Find, follow, and message Dr. Jessica Itani on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.shoesnsmiles/

                             

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                            34 min

                          About Smile Doctors Off Mute

                          From the publisher's feed

                          Smile Doctors Off Mute is a video podcast hosted by Dr. Scott Law, co-founder of Smile Doctors, the largest and fastest-growing Orthodontic Service Organization in the United States. Join us as he delves deep into the ever-changing world of orthodontics with an all-star roster of industry leaders. Each episode is packed with open, unscripted conversations that cover a wide range of topics from clinical innovations and how to create exceptional patient experiences to practice management and personal development.

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