You know how we all struggle to get our kids to sleep? Turns out it's because we've all been doing it wrong.
Both exhausted thanks to their children refusing to go down at night, Steve and Rich invited Sarah Ockwell-Smith - renowned parenting author and mother of four - onto the podcast to discuss her extensive scientific research into the art of getting babies to sleep.

After a long chat about lighting, sound, sociology, evolution, physics and everything in between, both Steve and Rich are still reeling from her many revelations… For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

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