The first presidential debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden was, to directly quote a CNN reporter, “a shitshow.” And that’s how President Trump apparently wanted it. Oh, also he refused to condemn white supremacists directly. Meanwhile, the Tennessee Titans had players test positive for COVID-19 and Disney is laying off 28,000 park and cruise employees. So it was a bit of a relief to flash back to the awkward, amazing years of being a millennial teen with the Daily Beast’s Kevin Fallon, as we chat about the new season of Hulu’s hit show “Pen15.”

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