This week we have those guys. Yeah those two guys. Mike and Bill.

Mike started off with his reading and it was about order. The fact that we had no order in our lives before and sobriety allows us to have just a little but now. It was a good talk.

Then our friend Gary had emailed us regarding the question that we had about relationships surviving when a person gets sober. Gary and his husband survived and we shared their story.

A Riverside update, rock bottom, happiest cities, gifts of recovery, not being good enough and finally choices and consequences.

We had some fun and maybe you will too.

Enjoy the episode.

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