This week, as promised and finally, we have Shirley!

Our friend from "the socials" and self proclaimed Sober Not Mature Fan Girl.

This was one of the most laid back and comfortable conversations that we have had in a long time. She told us about her background, what got her into sobriety and what she does now. It was straight forward and to the point, but we learned a lot about her along along the way.

She is from Detroit (Mike liked that), she practices a lot of the same things that we do and she got sober during the pandemic. Her sobriety date is 01/09/2020.

It was a great conversation, and we had a wonderful time talking with her.

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