*The following episode contains discussions on topics such as alcohol abuse and trauma that may be triggering some listeners. Please exercise caution and consider your personal experiences and sensitivities before listening. We approach these subjects respectfully and aim to provide insight and support, but we acknowledge that everyone's journey is unique*

On this episode of Mind Your Own Dog Business, Kristen Lee and Maggie Christina have a very open and vulnerable discussion of what has been happening behind the scenes at Dog Biz School on a personal level.

Kristen and Maggie share their breaking points, their low points in complete burnout, and how their unhealthy relationship with alcohol started to spiral out of control, and they almost left the industry due to their bullshit. 

Kristen and Maggie explore their very early journeys towards sobriety, the impact of alcohol and substance abuse on personal and professional life, and the importance of self-care and mental health, especially in the dog training industry. 

It's a real, raw, and honest conversation that we invite all dog trainers to listen to.