Somebody You Love

CW: assault of SWers

This week we get to hear Holly’s origin story! From strange encounters on a sybian to considering buying a brothel, she shares how she became the independent sex worker we know and love. Our Misconception of the Week is that our clients are old, ugly, fat, creepy, and/or desperate, and Jenna deals with an old client who is upset that he doesn’t hold the power over her he once had. We answer a whole bunch of your questions - how many regulars vs new clients, which is the busiest day of the week, more incalls or outcalls, and how much of our time we spend in bookings vs doing admin.

CHAPTERS

1:23 Main segment: Holly’s origin story

26:20 Misconception: Clients are old, ugly, fat, creepy, desperate

31:02 Shit People Say: “You must have crossed over to the dark side”

37:37 Question of the Week: Stats

LINKS

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Somebody You Love is sponsored by Assembly Four, empowering sex workers through

technology: https://assemblyfour.com/

For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations:

Scarlet Alliance: https://www.scarletalliance.org.au/ 

ACT (SWOP ACT): https://meridianact.org.au/swop/

NSW (SWOP NSW): https://swop.org.au/

NT (SWOP NT): https://www.ntahc.org.au/swopnt

Qld (Respect Inc): https://respectqld.org.au/

SA (SIN): http://www.sin.org.au/sindex.html

Tas (Scarlet Alliance): https://scarletalliance.org.au/links/

Vic (Vixen Collective): https://www.vixencollective.org/vc

WA (SWEAR): http://sexworkerrightswa.org

WA (Magenta): http://magenta.org.au

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CW: sexual assault, boundary pushing, poor attitudes towards SW

It’s time to hear Jenna Love’s origin story. From sugar baby to forum escort, brothel worker to career whore, Jenna shares the ups and downs, and the factors that shaped the sex worker she is now. Our misconception is that no little girl dreams of being a prostitute, Holly encounters an accountant that thinks he is a paramedic, and we talk about dreaded phone calls from unhappy wives. 

CHAPTERS

2:16 Main segment: Somebody You Love became a sex worker 

35:39 Misconception: No little girl dreams of being a prostitute

39:20 Shit People Say: *haggles* “I'm not haggling"

42:43 Question of the Week: Have we ever been contacted by unhappy wives?

LINKS

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Somebody You Love is sponsored by Assembly Four, empowering sex workers through technology: https://assemblyfour.com/

For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: 

Scarlet Alliance: https://www.scarletalliance.org.au/

ACT (SWOP ACT): https://meridianact.org.au/swop/

NSW (SWOP NSW): https://swop.org.au/

NT (SWOP NT): https://www.ntahc.org.au/swopnt

Qld (Respect Inc): https://respectqld.org.au/

SA (SIN): http://www.sin.org.au/sindex.html

 Tas (Scarlet Alliance): https://scarletalliance.org.au/links/

Vic (Vixen Collective): https://www.vixencollective.org/vc

WA (SWEAR):http://sexworkerrightswa.org 

WA (Magenta): http://magenta.org.au

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We’re talking about friendships and relationships within the industry - there aren’t many industries in which it is expected that you sleep with your colleagues and this presents some unique challenges! We talk brothel camaraderie, feeling isolated, and doubles bookings gone bad. Our misconception of the week is that sex workers don’t pay tax, Jenna vilifies a man for mistakenly thinking she had solicited his dick pic and we share some interesting memories of one another. 

CHAPTERS

2:07 Main Segment: Somebody You Love has friends in the industry

45:53 Misconception: Sex workers don’t pay tax

51:05 Shit People Say: Why vilify me? 

57:38  Question of the Week: What is your favourite memory of the other host? 

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Somebody You Love is sponsored by Assembly Four, empowering sex workers through 

technology: https://assemblyfour.com/

For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: 

Scarlet Alliance: https://www.scarletalliance.org.au/

ACT (SWOP ACT): https://meridianact.org.au/swop/

NSW (SWOP NSW): https://swop.org.au/

NT (SWOP NT): https://www.ntahc.org.au/swopnt

Qld (Respect Inc): https://respectqld.org.au/

SA (SIN): http://www.sin.org.au/sindex.html

Tas (Scarlet Alliance): https://scarletalliance.org.au/links/

Vic (Vixen Collective): https://www.vixencollective.org/vc

WA (SWEAR):http://sexworkerrightswa.org 

WA (Magenta): http://magenta.org.au

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CW: mentions of sexualised labels for trans individuals

This week we sat down with award-winning transgender escort Danika Deep to discuss her experiences making porn, offering GFE/PSE, and being a pro-domme. She discusses working with clients with a disability, her relationship to her preferred pronouns, what it’s like being both active and passive in the bedroom, and Our Questions of the Week are all questions for Danika submitted by our patrons, and for Shit People Say she shares the story of an ill-informed haggler. 

CHAPTERS

2:04 Main Segment: Somebody You Love is a transgender sex worker

30:46 Questions of the week: hetero clients, gender roles, lockdown, self fetishisation

55:32 Shit People Say: “how’s about we do it for this?”

LINKS:

Scarlet Alliance Chuffed fund: https://chuffed.org/project/sex-worker-support

EnVilopes by Violet Macc: https://twitter.com/violetmacc_bbw

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Somebody You Love is sponsored by Assembly Four, empowering sex workers through technology: https://assemblyfour.com/

For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: 

ACT (SWOP ACT): https://meridianact.org.au/swop/

NSW (SWOP NSW): https://swop.org.au/

NT (SWOP NT): https://www.ntahc.org.au/swopnt

Qld (Respect Inc): https://respectqld.org.au/

SA (SIN): http://www.sin.org.au/sindex.html

Tas (Scarlet Alliance): https://scarletalliance.org.au/links/

Vic (Vixen Collective): https://www.vixencollective.org/vc

WA (SWEAR): http://sexworkerrightswa.org 

WA (Magenta): http://magenta.org.au

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CW: This episode is about a serious subject and we talk about violence, sexual assault, drug use, forced labour, racism, and use the p-word. 

It’s time for a Jenna-sode! This week we are talking about the moral panic of human trafficking, and how the best of intentions can cause serious harm to sex workers and victims of trafficking alike. Our misconception for the week is that sex workers are women and clients are men. For Shit People Say we go on a surprise journey into the Star Wars universe, and we discuss receiving gifts from clients. 

Emergency Support Fund for Sex Workers in Australia: https://chuffed.org/project/sex-worker-support

CHAPTERS 

2:25 - Main segment: The moral panic of human trafficking 

32:43 - Misconception: Sex workers are women, clients are men

36:22 - Shit People Say: Surprise Star Wars roleplay 

41:19 - Question of the Week - How do you feel about receiving gifts? Is a gift at every booking too much?

REFERENCES:  

You’re Wrong About Human Trafficking

Reply All episode on FOSTA/SESTA 

International Labour Organizations’s 2017 Global Estimates of Modern Slavery: 

BBC Most London sex workers 'not trafficked', says study

The Conversation: Only a minority of UK sex workers have been trafficked

The New Republic: Liberal Feminism Has a Sex Work Problem

Washington Post: Lies, damned lies and sex work statistics

The Honest Courtesan

The Guardian: Prostitution and trafficking – the anatomy of a moral panic

Travel Agency: A Critique of Anti-Trafficking Campaigns, Nandita Sharma, 2003
Migrant Workers in the UK Sex Industry, Dr Nick Mai, 2011
White Slave Traffic in International Law, Jean Allain, 2017
The Evolution of Human Trafficking Messaging in the United States and its Effect on Public Opinion, Tabitha Bonilla & Cecilia Hyunjong Mo, 2018 

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For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: 

ACT (SWOP ACT)

NSW (SWOP NSW)

NT (SWOP NT)

Qld (Respect Inc)

SA (SIN)

Tas (Scarlet Alliance)

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WA (SWEAR)

WA (Magenta)

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Our main segment this week is all about the world of exotic dancing - Holly explains strip clubs to Jenna, sharing tips of the trade and insider secrets. Our misconception of the week is that employment negates consent, we discuss the cruelty that can arise when strangers on the internet don’t think about the human being who will read their words in Shit People Say, and we have a little chat about gangbangs! 

CHAPTERS 

1:18 - The world of exotic dancing 

37:32 - Misconception: employment negates consent 

39:50 - Shit People Say: ripped bowls

45:15 - Question of the week: what’s the most partners you’ve had in a gangbang?

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Somebody You Love is sponsored by Assembly Four, empowering sex workers through technology: https://assemblyfour.com/

For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: 

ACT (SWOP ACT): https://meridianact.org.au/swop/

NSW (SWOP NSW): https://swop.org.au/

NT (SWOP NT): https://www.ntahc.org.au/swopnt

Qld (Respect Inc): https://respectqld.org.au/

SA (SIN): http://www.sin.org.au/sindex.html

Tas (Scarlet Alliance): https://scarletalliance.org.au/links/

Vic (Vixen Collective): https://www.vixencollective.org/vc

WA (SWEAR):http://sexworkerrightswa.org 

WA (Magenta): http://magenta.org.au

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Today we’re talking about the blurring of lines between client and acquaintance… in both directions. Sometimes, as sex workers, we get booking requests from people we know (in real life) who want to become our clients. And sometimes, people who start out as clients go on to become acquaintances, or even friends. Our misconception of the week is that sex work is legal in Australia - the reality is it’s a whole lot more complicated than that! Jenna shares the story of a poor man whose phone seems to keep getting hacked every Saturday night, and they discuss pubic hair preferences. 

CHAPTERS 

1:00 - Blurring the lines 

25:36 - Misconceptions: sex work is legal in Australia 

33:47 - Shit People Say: All the info is on my website 

39:02 - Question of the week: Will pubic hair make a comeback? 

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Somebody You Love is sponsored by Assembly Four, empowering sex workers through technology: https://assemblyfour.com/

For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: 

ACT (SWOP ACT): https://meridianact.org.au/swop/

NSW (SWOP NSW): https://swop.org.au/

NT (SWOP NT): https://www.ntahc.org.au/swopnt

Qld (Respect Inc): https://respectqld.org.au/

SA (SIN): http://www.sin.org.au/sindex.html

Tas (Scarlet Alliance): https://scarletalliance.org.au/links/

Vic (Vixen Collective): https://www.vixencollective.org/vc

WA (SWEAR):http://sexworkerrightswa.org 

WA (Magenta): http://magenta.org.au

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Today we’re talking about the nitty gritty - the reality of working intimately with your body. Be prepared for liquids, solids, and gases - just like we are! Our misconception of the week is that working in the adult industry will ruin sex for you, and Holly shares some of the interesting enquiries she’s received lately. 

CHAPTERS 

1.25: Bodily Functions

38.44: Misconceptions: Sex work ruins sex for you 

43.48: Shit People Say: Do not swim with your hooker

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The Drum ABC 25/06/21: https://iview.abc.net.au/video/NC2107H105S00

Jenna’s big sex injury: https://youtu.be/nWm9rdU6IRY

Somebody You Love is sponsored by Assembly Four, empowering sex workers through technology: https://assemblyfour.com/

For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: 

ACT (SWOP ACT): https://meridianact.org.au/swop/

NSW (SWOP NSW): https://swop.org.au/

NT (SWOP NT): https://www.ntahc.org.au/swopnt

Qld (Respect Inc): https://respectqld.org.au/

SA (SIN): http://www.sin.org.au/sindex.html

Tas (Scarlet Alliance): https://scarletalliance.org.au/links/

Vic (Vixen Collective): https://www.vixencollective.org/vc

WA (SWEAR): http://sexworkerrightswa.org

WA (Magenta): http://magenta.org.au

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This is your standard introductory podcast episode. We tell you a little bit about ourselves, and then we explain the origin story of the podcast… which involves Internet trolls, pearl clutchers, and human furniture. Plus our regular segments!
 
CHAPTERS: 

2:30 Who are Holly & Jenna? 

7:00: The origin story of the podcast 

24:01 Misconceptions: You don’t kiss/go down on sex workers

34:07 Shit People Say: Wide load ahead 

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Buzzfeed Never Have I Ever Video: https://youtu.be/nWm9rdU6IRY

Buzzfeed Sex Workers Answer Questions You’re Too Afraid To Ask Video: https://youtu.be/ysYqutcTsJs

Jenna’s live stream reaction video: https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1RDGlPMrOZoGL

For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: 

ACT (SWOP ACT): https://meridianact.org.au/swop/

NSW (SWOP NSW): https://swop.org.au/

NT (SWOP NT): https://www.ntahc.org.au/swopnt

Qld (Respect Inc): https://respectqld.org.au/

SA (SIN): http://www.sin.org.au/sindex.html

Tas (Scarlet Alliance): https://scarletalliance.org.au/links/

Vic (Vixen Collective): https://www.vixencollective.org/

WA (SWEAR): http://sexworkerrightswa.org

WA (Magenta): http://magenta.org.au

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Just a tiny little taste of what is to come!

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