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- BONUS: Food As A Weapon In War
Trigger Warning: This episode references war, famine, starvation & rape.
We are back this week to discuss something extremely important & sensitive that could not wait until the season resumes.
We're unpacking the dark side of food, not as sustenance, but as a weapon. From the longstanding famine crisis in Sudan to the escalating emergency in Gaza, we explore how food scarcity is not always accidental, but often a deliberate tool of war and control. What exactly is a famine? Why does it happen and what makes it so devastating? Join us as we confront the politics of hunger, the human cost of food insecurity, and why recognising the true causes of famine is only the first step toward justice & change.
Useful Resources & Further Reading
Ethiopia: Conflict & food insecurity 40 years on from the 1984 famine
Timeline: 54 years of hunger as a weapon of war
Using starvation as a weapon of war in Sudan must stop
Why isn't the world paying attention to Sudan?
What really caused the Irish potato famine?
Food as a weapon of war
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59 min - S&S Revisits: Who's really invited to the Juneteenth cookout? feat. KJ Kearney
This episode was originally released on 17th June 2024.
For this very special Juneteenth episode, Harleigh and Malaika were joined by James Beard Award winning activist, social commentator and HBCU alumni KJ Kearney. KJ breaks down the difference between THE cookout and A cookout, explains the variations in soul food across America and sets the record straight on if there raisins in the potato salad.
Juneteenth, celebrated on June 19, commemorates the emancipation of enslaved African Americans in the United States. It marks the day in 1865 when news of the Emancipation Proclamation reached Galveston, Texas, over two years after it was issued.
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Timestamps
00:00:00 Welcome
00:01:43 Introducing KJ Kearney
00:10:41 What is Juneteenth?
00:28:00 The Cookout vs. A Cookout
00:38:20 Juneteenth Menu
54 min - S6 E17: Why Do We Love Listening to People Talk About Food?
Britain’s insatiable appetite for food podcasts is mystifying (Telegraph)
58 min - S&S Revisits: Can Airplane Food Ever Be Good?
This episode was originally released on 1st April 2024.
Get us to our summer holidays... in business class please.
Caviar, champagne, welcome nuts - yummy. But is it worth flying premium just for the food? Malaika and Harleigh dicuss their mile high meals and more. Join the conversation...
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1 hr 2 min - S6 E16: Secrets Of The Curry Kitchen Feat. Asma Khan
We are so excited to welcome the incredible Asma Khan, one of our favourite chefs, author, restaurateur, and all-around culinary force to the conversation! In this very special episode, Asma joins us to talk about her brand new TV series Secrets of the Curry Kitchen, a 10-part series where she shares the stories and inspiration behind her restaurant’s award-winning kitchen.
With her trademark warmth and wisdom, Asma shares the importance of preserving food heritage, and why empowering women in the kitchen can ripple far beyond it. Aside from reflecting on her journey from Kolkata to London and how food can be a vehicle for social change, we also ask Asma what she loves to cook when she's craving some self-care & comfort and why patience is a key ingredient in her kitchen.
Find Asma Khan on Instagram
Monsoon - Delicious Indian Recipes For Everyday & Season
Secrets of The Curry Kitchen, weekly on Food Network from 9pm Thursday 8th May, and available to stream on discovery+
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41 min - S6 E15: Can You Really Expect Good Food In A Pub?
We pulled up a barstool for this week's episode, diving deep into the heart of UK pub culture — from the sticky floors of old locals to the gleaming surfaces of modern gastropubs. We explore the pressure of after-work pints, how "just one" can turn into four, and whether the ritual of team drinks is still alive. With Gen Z drinking less than any generation before them, we ask "are we ditching the pub for Pilates?" . We’ll also look at some of the best pubs serving up seriously good grub (apparently), because if you’re not drinking as much, you might as well eat well!
Punjab Grill, Dubai
The Harwood Arms, London
Vogue - Best Pubs in London
Politics Joe - Pubs
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53 min - S6 E14: The Culinary History Of The Caribbean feat. Keshia Sakarah
As a Cook, Food writer, Educator, Food Anthropologist & Educator, Keshia Sakarah is a multi-faceted force within the world of food. We caught up with her to explore her new release, Caribe: A Caribbean Cookbook with History. More than just a collection of recipes, Caribe is a celebration of Caribbean heritage, ancestral wisdom, and the power of storytelling through food.
Keshia shares the personal journey behind the book—how growing up in a multi-island household shaped her palate, the ways colonial and diasporic histories are baked into Caribbean cuisine, and why honouring culinary roots is an act of resistance and reverence.
Get your copy of Caribe
Learn more about Keshia Sakarah
The Brave, London
Duck and Waffle, Dubai
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1 hr 13 min - S6 E14: It's Called Food Fashion, Darling.
Is it chic.. or chic-ken? On today’s episode, we dig into the delicious intersection of fashion and food — two cultural forces that have always influenced the way we express ourselves, but are now more intertwined than ever. From Kim Kardashian’s SKIMS launching a pop-up ice cream truck in L.A., to Jacquemus serving up pastries with their runway looks, luxury and lifestyle brands are tapping into our appetites, quite literally.
What does it mean when a brand sells both a bodysuit and a cookie? Is this just clever marketing, or something deeper; a shift in the way we consume identity, pleasure, and aesthetic? We explore how fashion is using food not just as a prop, but as an emotional connector, a sensory invitation, and a tool for soft power. who’s doing it well, and who’s just… playing with their food?
Orfali Bros - Dubai
Jojo's Kitchen - London
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1 hr 6 min - S6 E13: Meghan Sussex, The Domestic Duchess
This week we’re diving into the buzz around Meghan Sussex's (nee Markle) brand-new show - With Love, Meghan. From royal life to Hollywood lights, Meghan’s latest venture is making waves, and we’re here to unpack it all. What’s the show really about? Do we think it's worth the watch?And of course, we question if the media backlash is justified...
Watch 'With Love, Meghan'
Limin, Southbank
Alison Roman's Anchovy Pasta
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54 min - S6 E12: The Nigerian Food Boom feat. Chef Wu
This week we’re joined by Chef Wunmi Durosinmi-Etti— culinary entrepreneur, founder of Oúnjẹ Hospitality Co., and private chef with over a decade of experience. From thriving in London’s dynamic food scene to bringing her bold, refined take on Nigerian cuisine to Lagos, Chef Wu shares her journey and insights.
We dive into the rising global spotlight on Nigerian food, unpack the term "Afro Fusion," and explore how she reimagines traditional dishes while staying rooted in heritage.
Find out more about Chef Wu
Ugly Dumpling - London
The Bodega Emporium - Lagos, Nigeria
'Za 'Za Pizza - Dubai
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About Sonder & Salt
From the publisher's feed
A weekly food podcast about eating and cooking (but mainly eating) hosted by Malaika Malz & Harleigh Reid.
Sonder is the realisation that each random passerby is living a life as vivid and complex as your own despite personal lack of awareness of it. Salt is an irreplaceable kitchen essential with an entirely unfair health reputation. Together 'Sonder & Salt' combines the ideas of recognising the depth and complexity of individual lives and the essence of seasoning and enhancing experiences. Serving up fresh food-filled episodes every Monday.