Spirit of the Deal

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Brandon Handley 0:00 321 Hey there spiritual dope. I am on here today with my man, my man. Mr. The pauses. Mister, check out my book, Jeremy Todd Jeremy Todd is a motivational speaker. He is an influencer. He is a legend. Not only in his own mind, but in mine as well. I'm so excited to have Jeremy here. If you've been if you've been a longtime listener to me a and he followed me through three podcasting, another Jeremy's kind of a regular, but you you'll know that Jeremy was catching me I got to see like you were like the first. Right. The first and it's funny. We look all the way back to 2017, where neither one of us knew what the hell to do. And here we are like earlier just before this podcast got started. Well, I got upgraded Mike bargraph equipment. Yeah. Right. But super excited to have you on. But I always like to start this off with. And I think you've been on one of these already. But I'll ask again, you know, source speaks through us. Right. And there's a message that can only be delivered through you. Today, right now to to a to somebody listening to this podcast, what is that message?

Jeremy Todd 1:22 Well, you know, I mean that several ways I go with this, but what you know why you were talking? It just really made me think about you know, when you say four years ago, when we first we first met, and there was so much insert uncertainty with my life here live, what we're going to do, why are we doing this? Where's that going? The biggest message for me, and it's really coming through right now. And when we're having this conversation is that, you know, we just never really gave up, we just kind of kept going and there wasn't like, it was almost like we're pulled through to time to basically this point. And I don't know how to really put it in quantified in the words, but it's almost like taking your hands off the steering wheel and allowing things that just happen to watch your life. And good things happen. You know, it's like a, you know, a bad crypto reference. But I'm watching cryptocurrency recently in this going way, way up, it's gone way, way down. But consistently, it's going up. And that's really how I felt my life is it's been for the last three or four years, you haven't the, you know, splitting up with my with the mother of my children having that move in a couple different times. So you can get these big downs, but also you got the big ups. But if I look back now, where I am today versus where I was four years ago, it's a lot higher, it's a lot. It's a it's a better place, even though I had these major drops in my life. It's just weird how that goes. And you know, I talk about this all the time, and even on my show about really just just getting through it. It's not about hey, I need to figure this out right now, I need to figure out what I'm gonna do the rest of my life right now I need to get through this shitty time right now. And I really don't really have to get through anything right now. It's just you're meant to be in that point. Why? Who puts you there? I don't know. But it's part of the life that's part of the journey. It is sometimes it's good to be in those in those bad low points because it builds you up and makes you stronger, makes you harder and makes you you know, all around a better person learning from the tough experiences. But man, I get I guess I just you know, going on that random tangent right there. But I just I don't know, if I've ever been happier in my entire life than I am right now. I feel more blessed than I've ever felt in my entire life. And maybe it's because of, you know, some of the things that that have happened in my life recently, you know, but with writing the book, and I appreciate you mentioned that and getting some of the things off my chest with that book. It's very, very freeing. And it's, it's also it's been happening with actually who I truly am individually, like, like, this is who this is my weird quirkiness. This is who I am. In all these things. They've taken time and they've taken time, and they've got to this point, and who knows what's gonna happen in the next three or four years from now, but I feel like I'm being pulled through this situation. By I don't know, you know, I have been the universe the way it's supposed to be. I don't know the answer to that part of it. But I just really like the momentum. And I like the journey and it says it's been amazing the last three or four years. So I know that really answered your question, but that's really what I'm thinking about.

Brandon Handley 4:22 Trying to figure out this new new get new setup, right? I'm just trying to press the right buttons. It's awesome, right? I love the you know, you're saying you're kind of pulled through this kind of time and space to get to where you are today. And it really reminds me of of how mine started, right. And my kind of journey started because somebody said that exact line to me, right? I was like oh man, just, you know, the drink and sure and wanting to party and wanting to be this person that I had been for so long this identity that I assumed just kind of fell away. Yeah. Right. And he's like he goes you know, once you kind of know fall into the space you get

Jeremy Todd 5:02 what you while you're messing with the banging down there. But this is another thing popped in my head too when I was when you were when you mentioned that I listened to a podcast just before I got on and I'm driving around town and, and it was a Jocko willing podcast and he had Dakota, Dakota Meyer on his navy seals and he's telling me stories and one of the things he also mentioned was, you know how lucky he is to have a support group, and not a support group to where, you know, hey, I'm you know, I'm mad, and this is bullshit and have someone say, Yeah, you're right. or not, maybe the support groups more like, you're wrong, Jeremy, you're full of shit, you know, you're not right. And I'm like, Oh, yeah, well, maybe I need I need. I have people like that in my life. Like you like a like a Donnie title like Elise Archer, and I never had these people. You know, I've got friends in my life for a long, long time that have been lifelong friends. But what's helped me tremendously is having these people that I can pull from, and talk to and be 100% vulnerable and honest with them, Hey, I suck at this. This is where I need to help that this is where, you know, this is what's going through my mind right now, can you help, let's talk about these things. But the biggest thing about that and having those relationships is actually being not only honest with the other people that you're talking to you about being honest with yourself and checking the ego at the door and understanding it, the only way I'm going to really truly get out of the funk or truly get better is if I'm 100% authentic and 100% vulnerable with the person having the conversation with. And I've been very, very blessed over the last three or four years to have those people. And that's made a huge difference in my life, maybe more than anything, is to fall on that support group. The people from all around the country, I mean, how you said you're in Pennsylvania, and I'm in Indiana, and Danny's in Florida, you know, he leases and you know, she's in Georgia. I mean, we got people all over the country now in that's made a big impact for for me and my life. And the most important thing about it, again, is that I've taken action towards that I haven't just sat there and say, Oh, woe is me. I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna call these people, I'm gonna go reach out to them, and then tell them what I'm thinking. Because we can all sit in our worries and all around our doubts and our fears. And we can stay there forever. But until we actually reach out and say, You know what, I'm tired of this shit. This is not who I am. That's not my authentic self. I need I need help. And actually take action, get the help. That's what's made the biggest impact for me in my life as well. It's just the authenticity of who I truly am. And saying that, hey, I need help. I mean, that's one of the most powerful words in the world is when you tell somebody that, hey, I need your help, you know?

Brandon Handley 7:35 No, you're right. It's a, well, I want to kind of call attention to this idea that and you had them on, right, you had a PR rush on the idea of the full lifters. Right? It's not so much of getting this group around you have people that you're not it was I think there's a difference between like some people that you hang out with, and some people that support you, right, like, you've got the you've got this list of people that are supportive. And the I think they're calling you on your shit, they let you they let you kind of step in it, right? They let you you're like, Hey, this is what I'd like to go do. Yeah, if you're having a conversation with Elise, if you're having a conversation with Donnie, and you're like, Hey, this is this is, this is what I'm gonna go do. They say, you know, they might give you a gut check, they might ask you a couple questions. But in the end, they're gonna be like, well, if you feel like that's what you need to do to make this progress for who you are, and go for it. How can I support that? Like, what can I do to do you need introductions to somebody? Do you need? Do you need a brand bass? manager? Do you need any of that stuff? Right? Like, how can I help you? What, what is what is what do I have, that can help you to become who it is that you're looking to become? And I think that there's a difference between those people who are supportive, those are the people that we're talking about, versus people that you hang out with, because there's people that you hang out with, or just hang out with, or just hang out with. And those people like, you know, if I if I'm, if I'm sharing a couple pieces out of your book, right, like, some people that you might just hang out with would be the couple of people that like, you know, back in the day to smoke some weed. Like, they're just like, Hey, you know what, let's this is this is what we're doing today. Right? And then that's it, but those aren't the people that are going to be the ones that elevate you.

Jeremy Todd 9:28 Yeah, you know, it's funny, I asked a question on my podcast the other day of pretty who I was talking to, I was talking to the founder of brand builder, or Yeah, not brand builders. Doesn't matter. No, actually, that show will be out tomorrow. But I asked him, Do you still hang out with the people you grew up with? And you know, it's interesting when you ask successful people that like that, it's most of the time the answer is obviously is no. You know, and I don't hate on these people. They're their friends and they've, you've kind of developed who I was as a child which is made me who I am today. You know, I don't, I don't hold any grudges, or I'm not upset with them, it's just over life and different experiences, you become different types of people. And then you begin following you know, the the old Jim Rohn, you're the average of the five people you hang out with, you know, you start attracting different people with similar mindsets that, you know, I can't have conversations like you and I are gonna have, like we've always had, with, you know, my buddies in the old neighborhood, you know, it's just not gonna happen, because they just they don't see that they're not. You know, they're, they're not, I don't want to hidden let's say in the word they're not let me sit for a better way to phrase that they just maybe have to just keep using the word not, but they haven't experienced some of the things that I've experienced to be able to open their mind and allow the universe or your actual soul to be able to communicate one on one with that, with that, that energy and that power. And that really allows you to open up and that and pause or pause. Yeah,

Brandon Handley 11:03 that's totally right. So what allows for something like that?

Jeremy Todd 11:05 Well, you know, I think a lot of times, you know, and I don't want to get into too hardcore random stuff, but I think it's with diet, I think it's food, I think it's how you, how you meditation, it's really focused in on your mind, and like, understanding how powerful the mind really is. And I think when you you know, if you smoke cigarettes and drink seven days a week, and you're doing all kinds of crazy drugs, or, you know, the lists are just eating terribly, I think these things block the connection with you and your inner soul and your inner being. The more cloudiness that isn't, that is there. It's just like, it's almost like I see these people that are just going through life going through the motions, and they're not really connected to that source energy and, and to be honest, I don't know what that source energy is, either. I don't. It's hard for me to grasp my small mind around that. But I can feel that the energies when I walk into a room, I can feel that energy, a positive energy or a negative energy. And I say with my, my youngest daughter Moyo, my only daughter me, I think she's extremely clairvoyant, I think she, she can feel energies better than anyone I've ever met my entire life, we could walk into a buildings, just but data just don't the energy here, I'm like, Alright, let's go, you know, to be able to be in touch with that power that is, within all of us, is something that is number one, because a lot people don't understand it, don't even know that it's there. Which is, which is, which is a problem, I think, it's it's a problem with society and communication and, and growing as a as a one big, you know, as the population we all grow together. And I think that's a problem that slows the evolution and the growth of a society in general. But, you know, when I, when I go back and talk about my daughter, and she can just, she can look at somebody and say, you know, I that person, I really liked that person's energy. And

Brandon Handley 12:50 let me ask you this, right, like, and and did you feel maybe that it's has something to do with you fostering that in your child and not saying no, to her, her her being able to pick that energy up? Sure. So and I guess I'll take it a step further, is that is it that we all kind of have that innate connection, right? And instead of it being fostered in us, it was kind of like shunted away like, Hey, you know, what, you know, so I guess sounds like what you're doing, again, is you're, you're fostering that in your in your daughter, and you're allowing for her to explore these these gifts and this ability to not be fearful of connecting to we'll call it source, we'll call it like, anything like that, like her intuition. And saying, Yeah, you know, what is that? Tell me more versus you're just being correct.

Jeremy Todd 13:48 And that's the biggest thing you kind of hit the nail on the head with there is I don't, you know, it's only my kids know, I don't tell them that that's hardly really ever I tell them no, and I just ask more questions. But why do you want to do that? or Why? Or in the situation, my daughter? What does that feeling like? Like, somewhat? like random questions? Is it warm? Is it cold? What color is that energy? You know, and really let allowing her to her mind to really focus in on that and knowing that she's in a safe place that, you know, we don't she's she can have those conversations, like you said, Well, I think, you know, a lot of society today that gets that gets beat down. That's not something that's really focused on I think it's the most important thing to focus on, by far, but I think it gets blocked through, you know, maybe it's, I don't know, maybe it's bad diet, maybe it's too much technology, maybe it's not being connected to the earth as much as I think people should be. There's all kinds of things there. But you know, what it boils down to, it's just when those conversations happen, I don't I don't tell her No, or that's weird, or I don't understand. I just asked questions. Wow, that's amazing. Tell me more. How does it make you feel? What does that look like? You know, these look these random questions, and then she'll just and she just goes on and on and on. On on her mat, you can just see it like, it's really, really a little bizarre because it's not that she's, she's not making it up. You know, you can tell when your kids are making something up. But she is so detailed, that she just, she just knows it. And she, it's like she's, it's reality for her. It might be

Brandon Handley 15:24 real for everybody. what's what's on? Like, like I said most most is like, and we're saying most of society's like, she tries to shut that down, right? Or puts a fence up around that. What has given you the ability or the wherewithal desire to foster it versus just versus what the rest of society is doing?

Jeremy Todd 15:48 It's good question. It's, it's not a single thing. It's been many things. And we've talked about some of those ups and downs throughout my life. And you know, I've questioned, you know, you know, again, me being five foot 230 pounds soaking wet. Well, like what, you know, why am I? Why am I this height? Why am I this tall when I was, you know, I talked about in the book when I was sexually molested as a kid. Why did that happen? To me, it's not, and I truly look at it, it's not good. It's not bad. It's just an experience of my life that I've had to learn from becoming a minimalist was huge, not being attached to, you know, to physical items, not trying to compare myself to somebody else about their bigger house or big car. And because I just don't really care, I really deep down, I don't care. And if I really don't care about any of that, societal, I try and check the ego as much as I possibly can. What will if you clear all those layers away, what it really boils down to is, hi, how can I learn from you? How can I get better? How can I be a better friend, a better parent, I just want to get better. And I want and I'm genuinely interested in people, like I'm genuinely interested in learning about experiences and what their thoughts are and totally non judgmental. Like, that's the other thing. You know, I think in the society, we're so it's so built up to we're fighting against each other instead of listening to each other. And that's shared and celebrated this, this mob mentality, if you're not with us, you're against us. And that's, that's a major problem with society. And I think it's, but it's not easy to get to the point where I'm at either, because I've had these experiences throughout my life that have really kicked my egos ass and just say, you know, whoever, you're not the coolest guy in the block, you know, you're not the best looking guy in the block. But you know, what, what I feel like I do have is this just just curiosity about life, and curiosity and people of how do we connect on a different level, I will never judge you. I will never, I'll never say anything hurtful to you. And if I do, it's unintentional. But I just want to learn and I want to get better. And I want to know what's after life. And I know want to know, I want to learn from different religions and what they believe and take all of this stuff together and just kind of live in the information. And that's what I always say, I don't know, what's what's, you know, what's going to happen next. I don't know what's life after death. I just want to live in all the information and just experience.

Brandon Handley 18:18 Let me let me jump in. Right. So I think one of the one of the one of the things I'm challenged by maybe you can help me here is, you know, here's where we are today, right? This is, that's where you are today because of your experiences. How you know, if you had to talk to somebody where they are right now, you know, maybe yourself, you know, four years ago or five years ago? What's that? What's that conversation look like? And how is that different? Right? How can you impart some wisdom to somebody where they are now along the journey what would you say

Jeremy Todd 18:50 the biggest thing and the one of the one of the most important things that I've really worked on is my is listening. And and I know it sounds so basic and so you know just what he had, of course you're gonna listen but before I was always listening to the person planning my response, and not even taking in and learning from the actual conversation because I would my ego was just so like, well I already know the answer to that I already know what's going on I want to give you my opinion and not even fully hear the question So as I've in the last few years I've just really I've just more sat on the sidelines and just watched and listened and listened and then ask more questions. Because if I if I if I focus on me if I focus on what you know how its explained this a little better it's it's I'm not trying to win in any situation I'm trying to learn from the other person and and really experienced that their life and in just listen in like manner. How did they get to this point? How do what can they teach me how to how do I get better and then I'm, I'm really this The other thing too Which is, I think it's important to I'm blown away with people's stories. When people think their story is not important, it's because you haven't found the right person that's actually listening to what, what you have to say, I think we are so tied into what we think society wants to hear, hear us say, we just tell people, whatever they want to hear instead of who we truly are as individuals. And I think when you start asking different, like different questions to people that they've never been asked before, it's it's amazing how people just start opening up and telling you, they're all all these goals and dreams that they have that they've maybe never told anybody. And they feel so much better with the conversation, I feel so much better the conversation. But it all started with really, truly being interested in the other person. And checking the ego and just listening and being fascinated with their story. Because everyone has an amazing story. We're just told and that our stories like everyone else's, and it's not, it's completely different. And I love listening to people and love hearing their stories. And the more you listen, truly listen, you learn so much faster. And I've learned more about listening the last in my life in the last three or four years, I probably did my entire life. Because Yeah, it's important.

Brandon Handley 21:19 The idea of Yeah, I heard it recently. And it was Bob Proctor. So my guy, right, like, turn them off a little bit, and you jump back in again, and you listen, you know, you hear with your ears, but you listen with your heart. Right. I thought that was pretty powerful line. And then, um, you know, outside of my story, which ones had the most like impact on you over the past couple years?

Jeremy Todd 21:51 repeat that, quote, repeat the question again, like, outside of what now,

Brandon Handley 21:54 outside of my story. Which one? Which one, which one you think like, over the past four years has really motivated you or had the greatest impact on you?

Jeremy Todd 22:06 You know, there's been a lot of stories and a lot of people that have impacted me tremendously. And you know, it's just so fun because some people push me because I'm selfish, a little jealous. Like I, I, I see my friends like, like, and again, it's just it's the ego talking again. But, you know, I see guys, like, you know, like Donnie Tuttle loved on me. You know, Donnie, and I were in a coaching company together and quit cold turkey. And he's making enemies just making great money and changing lives. And it's huge. And in what that does for me, and I want all of us to go to the bank together. I all want us to be successful all I want all of us to change our lives. But he motivates me. He is very humbling. He's very open. His story is pretty powerful. I don't want to get into like some of the other stuff that he that he struggled with, but but he begin those conversations that we have off the mic and that and outside that it makes us both better. It has really, really changed my life. You know, it's funny, this something small recently happened to me last week, and I was I applied for a TED talk here in Fort Wayne. And I got turned down. So I'm, I was I think I'm more excited that I got turned down, then I got accepted. Because it gives me this, like, you know what, a few pals. You don't say this, like this. That's what I needed to prove to myself, but I'm on the right path. Because that if you can't accept me in my own hometown, to speak a TED talk, because I got a TED talk. I think it's on my vision board. And I want to get that done. But for them to turn me down. that inspires me as well. Because it's just it's, it's, it's almost like the University in here. Jeremy, I know you wouldn't be on on do this sets off, but you're not quite ready yet. And like, you know what, maybe I'm not a dog. I'm gonna keep fighting. I'm gonna keep doing I'm not gonna quit. That's, that's, you know, those two stories are completely different. But really that that that TEDx getting turned down from that made a really big impact on me recently. Because, you know, it's just like, it's almost like the universe politely saying, Jeremy, you're not good enough. Still. Like, you know what? That's cool, man. I'm not giving up yet.

Brandon Handley 24:26 Right? I would look at it maybe a little bit differently. Right. I would look at it maybe as in shit. At least they emailed me back. They know who I am. For sure. I would look at it as kind of like evidence of things to come. Right. Like they My name is already. You don't know that. You don't know that in two weeks, whoever they they've already accepted. falls out. And then then maybe I'll check out this positive side guy. Yeah, maybe. Maybe. And Todd. And yeah, look, Danny's story is just so great because it's so So real, it's genuine, right? There's nothing fake about how he got to where he is. And there's no smoke and mirrors. There's any everything done for the right reasons. I just love it. Right.

Jeremy Todd 25:14 Yeah, you know, it's one of those guys that I call a friend, you know, a true friend. And you know, you know, you are a true friend of mine. Dan is a true friend of mine. Lisa is a true friend of mine. I mean, I've got it's just beautiful as all these people are so beautifully authentic. And in it for the right reasons. Like they, you know, we're doing this because we love what we do. And we're changing lives not fake. We're not doing this to get become billionaires. I mean, there's a lot of other ways we could do that. But

Brandon Handley 25:43 a lot faster. Yeah, for sure. Initially, I was right. Like, I wasn't in it for the right reasons in the beginning, and but that's all part of my journey. Right. And I love it. I love it. I love I love that that's been part of the journey. You've mentioned the universe, and you've mentioned kind of like, you know, spirit and energy, you know, and it's been maybe a year since we kind of talked last word, what's your stance these days? Man? What do we got? We've got a grand architect is what is what is fear? And how's it working through you and for you to you these days?

Jeremy Todd 26:17 You know, it's, it's, it's very interesting asset. Because I think about it, I literally think about it every day. And it's weird like it, you know, when I was born and raised Catholic, so, you know, sometimes when I felt I found comfort when going through my 20s and early 30s, of praying at night praying to, to a God that, that, you know, the white bearded guy. And you know, as that kind of evolved, and I kind of got away from all aspects of really, of any, any sort any, any kind of like a structure and religion completely gone out of that. I go back to, like, even like, like last week, two weeks ago, I thought I caught myself, like praying again, which is really weird. But it's not praying to the same God. It's praying to this all knowing power of energy, whatever that is, and I still don't know what it is. I don't there's something there's got to be something there. And I don't know if it's I don't know, man. I why,

Brandon Handley 27:25 why Why? Why is there got to be something there, right? I mean,

Jeremy Todd 27:28 I don't know. Yeah, you know, you know, I had a guy on there talking about a few weeks ago, and he's got something retreats, the whole retreats. And you know, he specializes in suicide. And I asked him and I asked him, his Is there life after death? Is there a god? And he said, unequivocally 100% Yes. And as you'd go through these different journeys of these mind altering experiences, you see that how much more is actually out there and we live you know, in this one dimension of of whatever my my quote unquote reality is, however, when you take mind altering drugs, you realize that there are so much more going on within the brain within this universe within this realm. Again, it goes back to it's just so gigantic, like how do I even comprehend that and I you know, not to go on Tinder, but even like space and time continuance, you know, there's, there's theories of you know, every black hole has a million other galaxies and universes with a million other black holes in them that continues to go on forever and ever infinity. And then you know, the multi universe thing where exactly what we're doing right now is happening on another planet. A billion trillion miles away on some random planet that's very close to ours. But maybe it's my podcast called the spiritual spiritual open near the positive side guy. Yeah, yeah, but there's just there's just all these things that I think about and I'm like, Well, is there one all mighty power being that is running all of this? The universe is from billions and billions of galaxies away?

Brandon Handley 29:02 I can't read something outside Do you think it's something outside of you?

Jeremy Todd 29:07 I don't know. Maybe not. Maybe Maybe that maybe that maybe that is the maybe that is one of those but I I just when I look at how massive everything is and with the universities and space and galaxies like how can there be one all power being for everything? Is this the only unit is this the only I guess universe that we are is there's your multi universes is there different things going I don't I can't grasp my I can't grasp that concept. So I don't and then that's why I live in this like study of just listening to things feed trusting my gut when things are going well. I feel like there's like that little energy that is above me of powerful me but like you said, maybe it is me itself. Maybe I am that it Eternal energy I just had, it's just a lot to think about. And I don't try and even claim that I know what the hell's going on. I just, but I listened to everybody and understand that I'm not smart enough, I don't know enough to be able to make that decision to decipher that set makes any sense at all. It's so big to you. It's

Brandon Handley 30:22 fair, it is big. And it is a lot. I mean, look, that's the that's the gist of this podcast, right? How do you? How do you kind of once you once you come in contact with that source, right, you felt that you like, and it's like now now that you're here, right? You know, had Krista on the podcast, and her podcast title was I'm awake. So now what? Right? I'm like, God, what a perfect podcast name. But yeah, so you're awake. Now? What? How do you incorporate this newfound levels spirituality? Or re connected with your spirituality and your like? Because I mean, conversation earlier, you're talking about like, you don't need anything, you don't need XYZ, you're detached from the necessary, you know, all these things. Right? Well, what's the keep you Jeremy from just, you know, rolling out and coming a monk at this point, right?

Jeremy Todd 31:17 Well, yeah. You know, I don't know, I know what you were talking about that to what I was kind of thinking about is, you know, it's interesting, when when I think about this, this energy or whatever, this, this higher power sources, it's interesting, because it's not always there all the time. So, you know, I'll go through days where I'm just going through the motions, it's normal day, and I'm just a normal person living through let me ask

Brandon Handley 31:39 you this, I'm gonna I'm gonna jump in. Right. Yeah. Is it? Is it that it's not always there? Or is that you're not always aware of it?

Jeremy Todd 31:47 I'm not always aware of it.

Brandon Handley 31:48 100%? Because I would have to say, I mean, this is this has been my experience, right? I would have to say that it's always there. It's, it's kind of up to us to tune into it. Right. It's like we're driving around, you're driving around. You turned into a podcast earlier. Yeah. You turned into you know, Satan, same thing. You're like, you know, what happens if I tuned in and soars right now? What source? What source up to?

Jeremy Todd 32:08 Yeah, exactly. And that's what's it's just very interesting, because, and I agree with you, the source is always there. However, it's it's am I tuned in Am I not tuned in and, you know, it's, it's like the typical person, a lot of typical, but, you know, when times are really, really good, you're like, man, Hey, thank you source energy, this is all good. When times are really really shitty, you're like, Oh, my God, I need your help. And then every once in a while, in the middle, it's like, you know, I'm just gonna check in here and there. But that's one thing I'd like to work on is just as really be, you know, just get better just can be more present, be more in tune with the with that energy and understand that it's always there. Things are happening. It's just, you know, hey, I'm just an average Joe just trying to get through it and working my way through this complicated mental test that I always think about. And I wouldn't have it any other way. I mean, I really want it because I just find these conversations fascinating. And that just allows you to be needed to remind yourself and think bigger and think. And just really think I mean, that's what I really enjoy

Brandon Handley 33:08 about that. Right? Let's talk about that for a second. Because you are having an impact, right, regardless of whether or not you feel like you're driving it through, you know, spirituality or some other way, for the, for the purpose of this podcast, you are driving it spirituality, you know, through a spiritual sense, you know, what kind of impact or you feel like you're having out there in the world today?

Jeremy Todd 33:30 You know, that's, it's a great question, because it allows it, you know, the first answer is, I don't know, it's just, it's an ego, like, you know, I know, I'm making a big impact out there, you know, and you got to give yourself permission to say that you are making a big difference. And it's okay. You know, I mean, it's okay to say that, and I've worked really, really hard on that. Because, you know, you and I had a conversation about two years ago, that made a big impact on my life. And this is very similar what we're talking about here and that question, because, you know, we talked about how I use, I use when I want to go to Chipotle, I've been there forever. And I always I always buy the person behind me launch. And that when I run out before they could actually get now acknowledge that, you know, bottom lunch, because I wasn't accepting that, that time of gratitude. Like it's okay. To have someone thank you for that. You know, and so when you ask a question like that, it just makes me go right back to that question that you asked, you asked me. So that's made a huge impact on my life. And I've actually tried to share that story about 1000 times because it's, it's so right, man, it's so right. So if I go back to the question in my what what kind of impact my making I'm thinking I truly make? I think I'm making a gigantic impact. And it is it's it's not numbers wise, you know, and I'm not trying to say I'm making a billions and billions of people changing all their lives, but the lives that I'm changing are gigantic. I had, you know, I get emails, you know, once twice a week that just say, you know, Jeremy I found your podcast, I tried to commit suicide three weeks ago, and I didn't know what I was gonna do I, luckily, I didn't go, I didn't succeed at doing that. And then I stumbled across your podcast, then how it's made such a big impact in my life in such a short amount of time. So when you talk about making an impact with that person, that that one person's life, and I know, there's more out there, and you know, I've got stories and emails, which I still save, because it makes it makes me feel good. But that one person? I mean, is that person going to have a, you know, another, it was younger person, I think, mid 20s? Maybe that

Brandon Handley 35:34 person worth it? That's worth it. All right. So it's all worth it, though. It's funny, because he says, you know, you don't feel like you're touching maybe billions or millions. But if you think about it, right, throughout the course of at least four years now, you know, with each person that you that listens, you know, throughout the past, you know, of course of four years, how many people have they talked to and interacted with and that network kind of the year that the multiplier effect over over time? I'll bet you by now, you know, you've you've impacted at least a billion.

Jeremy Todd 36:09 Yeah, yeah. And that's a good point, too. Because you know, it You never know, the whole butterfly effect and how it's affecting people down the down the road. And like, you've said, that young lady reached out to me, man, I mean, who's to say she has a, you know, a beautiful family has a couple of kids after that, and then changed her life? And has these kids like, what changed the world? You know, for sure.

Brandon Handley 36:26 You just never know, the change in the world. Right? Like, I mean, yeah, no, you don't know. So you know, if we're, if we're talking about somebody or something, and I got to imagine that, at a certain point, you kind of you were pulled through, like your insides, right for gut feeling to do your podcast, right? You were pulled to you know, you're like, I gotta get on the mic. Yeah, right. Um, what do you think is part of that? What drove that?

Jeremy Todd 36:54 It was really the I mean, it was the the opportunity to make an impact. I just, I'm a firm believer that we all have this message, we all have this message in, I have been blessed with the gift of gab, to tell my stories, and be 100% authentic, to allow people that have going through the same things that have gone through the same things to say, hey, it's okay that I went through these things. And you know, I talked about it one on one. I'm not trying to do a cheap blog, but in the book, I talk about, you know, me when I was a younger, yeah, that's right. Getting getting molested from a friend, you know, and there are so many people that this has probably happened to that, that have lived with this. Now, when I put the book out, and I had even another family member reached out and said, this is completely different situation. But she said she went to the same exact thing. I have been blessed with the gift of gab, and I've been blessed with the confidence and the, I don't know, if you want to call it arrogance than to say that I don't, I just don't give a shit what anybody else thinks about me. I truly don't I truly don't give a shit. If that's true, and I know this ability, that God higher being, whatever you want to say, has given me this opportunity, if I don't take advantage of it, what impact what negative impact would that it made on the world and the lives that I should have changed that never did? You know, it's like the where's the most successful place in the world, it's, you know, the the cemetery because we all we die with these ideas in our in our mind and never put them out there. And I wasn't going to allow that to happen. The podcast started out originally just you know, I knew that this message would need to get out. But over time, like everything is chatting a little bit more authentic, a little bit more real and the lives that has changed and are getting bigger and making a bigger impact. And but it's I was given a gift and and i'm using the gift to share the message man and you know, I friends, I'm sure you have said the same thing that you've had people tell you what are you doing? You know, why would you do that? This is stupid doesn't make any sense? Are you making any money? That was?

Brandon Handley 39:05 Absolutely that those are a couple of the next questions. Right. So you know that the next question really comes from you know, you've got these naysayers, right? You've got these people that are doing the Kukui crap, right? The the people that are you know, you're you're in there and they're trying to pull you back down. But you move move ahead. Anyways, there has to be a little bit of fear and trepidation and that you want to talk about getting through that.

Jeremy Todd 39:33 I had a lot of fear. I was, you know, a lot of it was just anger. It was, you know, it showed me that and this was partially mostly my fault as well that people didn't really know who I was. people's opinion and thoughts of me was not reality of actually who I truly was as an individual because I I played to society. You know, I was like, everyone Yes, I did. You know, I had the nice cars, I had the big house, I did all the, you know, I would partying all the time with all these random people that you look back and they're still doing it. And that's, um, but that was never me. That was never who I truly was. So, and I, you know, I don't want to say use the word blame, because that's that's saying that there's a negative connotation to that, but it was my fault that I wasn't really being who I actually was.

Brandon Handley 40:24 You were you. You were, was it true, then you maybe had a little bit of victim mentality?

Jeremy Todd 40:32 Yeah, for sure. I mean, you know, if you go there with with, with my height, and you know, some of the personal stuff I went through 100% Yeah. 100% and,

Brandon Handley 40:40 and just just so what is victim mentality, then? What's that mean?

Jeremy Todd 40:44 Well, for me, it was like, it was why I've been screwed, because I'm the short guy. So I'm gonna overcompensate and try and try and prove to other people that I'm, I'm just as cool as you are, quote, unquote, cool as you are, even though I'm five, two, and, you know, I've got a, you know, a bonus shoe as well. And I've got all these other issues. But, you know, it was almost like I was I had to prove to others and not prove to myself that I was worthy. And that that was a cyst or something, you know, I probably still struggle they can relate to it just said that out loud. That makes a lot of sense to me. Now that I just said that out loud that I, I tried to prove to others who I was, instead of proving to myself who I actually was, you know, and I think when I accepted that, and really, man, hey, I'm, I'm 40. I'll be 43 here a couple months. I probably haven't accepted that. And so I was probably 3849. You know, but that's my journey. You know, it's that's how long it took me. It's not right, wrong or indifferent. But that's how long it's taking me to get to this point now in my life that I just, I'm happy with who I am.

Brandon Handley 41:47 I gotta wonder sometimes if that's just not the natural evolution, you know, that's when it's supposed to happen. Yeah, it's as I was listening to something the other day, and I forget exactly what it was. But like, you know, you can't rush that kind of thing. Right? You can't force it. Yeah. Right. And, and you can't time it, but you can get pretty close to the time. Yeah. So then the, give me a spiritual dope, right? So give me an idea of what's a hit of like, kind of spiritual dope for you.

Jeremy Todd 42:21 What is a hit for spiritual dope from

Brandon Handley 42:24 so you know, spiritual dope is like, you know, just when you're feeling connected to source, right, so what's one of your hits?

Jeremy Todd 42:30 By far, this is the one that most I love this time of year. I mean, yeah, this time of year, and reason being is when I can walk outside, and I can walk their feet barefoot in my backyard. And I can be 100% connected to what would actually connected to nothing, you know, but connected to myself, and then the planet and the birds and the bees and the flowers in the wind. And that, that, that, you know, you get euphoric. I mean, I get chills just thinking about it. Because that's, that's what life really is. That's like, that's like the basis of, of reality of life. And when you walk back into the house, or walk back, get back into the car, it's like, you're right back into society, and you're like, it's just a different world. You know, years ago, when I was in California, were the greatest things I did. And I'll never forget this as I watched the sunset, for 30 straight days in California. And I would go out on this little bench and there was, you know, the sunset was set over this, this like little valley. And, you know, I'd always look at all the different colors and all that, and just how beautiful it was. And I would sit there meditate, or just take deep breaths in breaths out and be present in that time. That's when you know, like, spiritual dope, that's about the biggest hit of spiritual nobody could possibly have is because that's, that's when you know, things are bigger than you. And, and I just feel so much better. I feel like I just have so much more energy and so much more meaning to live. And this is why I'm here and I need to enjoy this. And so the springtime and you get to the winter of gray and everything like that. It's terrible to the winter, and even today, we're a couple inches of snow, which is terrible in April. But next week 70 it'll be 70 degrees on Monday, and I take that time like what I said outside and just listen to the birds and the wind and just be at peace and it's the best thing in the world for me.

Brandon Handley 44:23 I love it man connecting with nature,

Jeremy Todd 44:24 right? Absolutely, the most important thing I can do.

Brandon Handley 44:27 So something's gonna happen. This didn't happen today. But I'm gonna do a little bit of conversion on this podcast. I'm gonna shorten it a little bit. And I'm gonna turn it into a little bit more of kind of like a spiritual speed dating Jeremy like, you know, somebody who's kind of speed dating Jeremy Todd today listening to podcast and they're like, Am I spiritually attracted to Jeremy Todd, right. So I think I'm gonna ask you like one or two like these kind of random questions that are it's actually 20 questions that came up and like, talking to, you know, some of the top 100 spiritual people, right can, you know, let's take one segment of the easier ones? Um, what is wisdom? And how do we gain it?

Jeremy Todd 45:10 What is wisdom? And how do we get it? You know, I think, for me, wisdom is it's the it's the tough times, but it's not the tough times. It's how you react to the tough times. Because I, I, you know, it's kind of like the deal failure question that I asked on my on my show as well. But wisdom has. I've been through so many tough times, you know, so I look back. And now when tough times happen, I reflect back on how I react in that situation. And I'm like, Well, you know, I learned so much from that situation that I'm not going to react is one of the strongest things I do is when there's turmoil, and when there's aggression and arguing, and I am the the calmest guy in the room. I just sit there and I'm patient. Because I've learned that when you when you the first reaction you have in a situation like that is usually the wrong one is coming from a place of where Wait, wait, wait, wait, the

Brandon Handley 46:02 first reaction is not the best one.

Jeremy Todd 46:04 Yeah, correct. Yeah, for me, it's 100%. For me, it's not. And but but that takes that's that takes time. That takes wisdom because I've been down that road where I've made these decisions, where it's just a snap decision. Like, man, I shouldn't have said that. I've, I've learned how to sit back and relax. How'd you how'd you learn to cultivate that? It was really through breathing. And that's been the biggest thing for me. And you know, when when, when you're in that situation, you feel like time's going by a million miles an hour, I've learned to just kind of sit back, take two or three deep breaths. And it just allows your brain to reset and what's kind of wild, whatever, which I love is,

Brandon Handley 46:41 is there any kind of just, I mean, is there any kind of certain breath that that is right? Like, I mean, can you illustrate that for somebody that might be looking to figure it out, for me,

Jeremy Todd 46:49 it's easy, it's just through the nose, I mean, because there's so many other pathways through the nose that it allows your brain to to absorb the oxygen a little bit different than it is to your mouth, and through your lungs. So it's very, very slow. And then I always pause, send them out through the mouth. And then it's a shorter breath as well through the nose. And it just allows you to gain composure. And and what's been amazing about that, too, is that allows the other person that has been super aggressive, almost kind of pause. And then you can almost see gears start changing with other people. It's, it's beautiful to see. But I do that with my kids. I do that with, you know, relatives, to get an argument with, I'm just, I'm not calm, cool. Like the guy just I just don't get upset anymore. I don't you won't catch me raising my voice you won't catch me yelling at anybody. Because I just sit back, relax, take that deep breath and then ask questions.

Brandon Handley 47:46 I love it. What, um, what are you up to man? What's next? What's up? So, you know, where should people kind of go and connect with Jeremy Todd?

Jeremy Todd 47:54 Well, you know, I'm really focused on my YouTube channel. I've got 175 people there. And I put a lot of videos up there, I put all the podcasts, put the money motivation on there, that's super important. Instagram has been great for me as well. And, you know, the biggest thing for me is I've signed there's been a few people that have come on to the, to the coaching program recently. And, you know, it's interesting, and I always tell the clients that come on, hey, this is all mindset coaching. And I know there's all kinds of different labels for coaching and that's something I always struggle with like, Am I a sales coach, I'm am I you know, you know, they're all the other cliche words for coaching and then some, I think it waters it down a lot but I think as overtime that when you listen to the podcast and you know how focus I'm mind setting in gaining this knowledge that people have started reaching really reaching out to me working on one on one with me, and it's been a salad changed my life, but to change other people's lives as well in you know, down the future, I just decided to work with more people. That's always fun. So you can always find me on YouTube and Instagram and you know, LinkedIn and all the other places. But I think one on one is probably the best, you know, shoot, you know, shoot me an email Jeremy at Jeremy Todd calm and you've got questions. Hopefully I got the answers.

Brandon Handley 49:08 And we're new Where can I find your podcast?

Jeremy Todd 49:11 I'm everywhere. You know, iTunes, Stitcher, Pandora is but actually been great. I've been I've had five or six people in the last few weeks, reach out to me and say, I found your podcast on Pandora. So it's just search and Jeremy, you'll be able to find me really, really quickly. Also on on iTunes, you can find me quickly there. But also, you know, keep in mind on my Facebook page, I put all the videos up there. You'll be up there here in about a week or so is to be great. And then on YouTube, but all the interviews on YouTube as well. So some people you know, it's depends how you take in things that are your audio and will listen to you what are you going to actually watch it? There's several different ways to catch the podcast as well now, but it's going better now than it's ever been. And I'm just excited about the future.

Brandon Handley 49:51 I think I think that's fantastic. I think what you're what you're illustrating is is persistence and passion in action. Right? You know, you've decided to, to, to, to continue with this thing. And what I love is that you've continued it throughout the quote unquote bad times. Right? Yeah, the tough times. And they say that that's kind of where the character shows up the character, the character of a man, or a person doesn't show up in as much in the good times as it does the bad times 100%. So I appreciate that you've been able to maintain the podcast, continue to look for the positive elements. And from my from my perspective, positive doesn't mean like, Hey, this is all sunshine and roses. Positive means how do we make progress from this point that we're at today? Right. So I appreciate you leading the way I appreciate your friendship overall, all these years and not just being able to have these conversations and I'm really proud of you but for getting your book out the positive side, how I overcame bullying, bankruptcy and a bad attitude. My true identity. Brother, thanks so much for being nice. I appreciate you, brother.

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Unknown Speaker 14:15 my heart of course, always aches for Who else? Who else's life plenty of sake, but I was a what was maybe Brad's purpose was to be there. And that it's Brad's purpose was to save lives. Maybe Brad's purpose was to make such an impact on the people that he was

Unknown Speaker 14:41 around,

Unknown Speaker 14:42 that these stories are could be shared later in life. And right now when you come out, it's super simple. People do it. In elementary school, and the parents accepted for the people that did it. 30 years ago, it cost them their lives 3040 years ago. So I mean, this is almost 40 years ago, cost him his life. And we get to celebrate, we get to celebrate today. You know, gay pride isn't? I think, one is, it's a celebration of who you are. And I think that it's open to everyone, right where we're in such as like, inclusive, inclusive era, and that's beautiful. It should always be that way. Accepting you as you are, who you are, where you are, no matter what you're doing. As long as like, right, you're not harming anybody. And celebrating that, that's love. I love, you know, gay pride month because of that there's so much kind of energy released. But just like, just like any kind of civil rights movement, there were people that came before us, that helps make it happen. That put their lives on the line, that wrist not being accepted, that risks being ostracized,

Unknown Speaker 16:19 simply

Unknown Speaker 16:21 for who and how they chose to love. So I think that that is the biggest, biggest thing that we can take a look at as we go into Pride Month, we can take a look at those that came before us those who have had an impact on our lives. I mean, if there's been people, maybe you've never looked at it this way, if there's been people in your life,

Unknown Speaker 16:50 who maybe you shoved away because of their choice of love. I my question would be, how did those people show up in

Unknown Speaker 17:04 your life? Not who did they choose to love? How did those people show up in your life? Did they show up? And a caring, passionate, ready to be there for you moment? And then you learned that they were gay? Well, I guess I can't. I mean, right does it doesn't make any sense for that to be the route. And so. Hey,

Unknown Speaker 17:33 thanks, Brad. Thank you for the impact you had on my life.

Unknown Speaker 17:40 And at the same time, I'll thank my mother for exposing me to that lifestyle. So that there was really never a choice for me. Never had to. I never had to say, Oh, this isn't right.

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Unknown Speaker 0:00 So what is going on? Today? It's been a long time. Since since doing like a BJJ report, which I do those on occasion more recently having been reinvigorated with it. And now just kind of getting back into flow, I haven't done a live because you know, the past year pandemic, I didn't really have a whole lot to say, except for let's get through this shit. And that was it. Right? I don't know that it was survival mode. But I don't, I wouldn't have called it thriving for myself. I was definitely a challenge. And I don't think anyone made it out alive. You know, in terms of, there wasn't anyone who wasn't touched by it in some way or another. And Meg and I were having a conversation this morning about that. What's up, homie? mega, we're having a conversation this morning, too, right. And then another thing that happened this week, was I interviewed someone who's very, very, very active in charitable causes.

Prabhat Gautam

Unknown Speaker 1:14 runs this organization called positive television does one of the things but he's thrown over 800 different events to raise awareness. And, you know, I barely, I don't I don't know, think of what others should be aware of, or I don't think that I've ever, you know, kind of had a cause, per se, other than Don't be an asshole. Right? I think that's been my primary cause most of my life. Sometimes I've been the asshole saw me, I'm not saying that. I'm a saint, either. And I think that when we talk about raising awareness, we talk about it in the sense of raising awareness of you know, who you are, right? Who are you, first of all foremost? And then what's your cause? Like, what do you want to stand for? And as I was thinking about it, right, I was like, What the fuck do I stand for it is I've rarely, you know, I don't stand for much again, it's just kind of living life and enjoying it and got me thinking about, you know, some things that I might be able to stand for it easily. We all know that look, I stand for obviously, being the best parent, you can be under any given circumstances with what you have to do that with. Right? That's, that's a no brainer. And there's a whole bunch of other causes and things out there, right, like, hey, let's, let's stop trafficking humans. That's a good idea.

Unknown Speaker 2:47 But I think,

Unknown Speaker 2:48 I think another thing that it dawned on me, right, and like, hey, it's Mental Health Awareness Month. And I was like, that's an easy one for me to at least jump on the bandwagon with, if you don't recall, if you've never seen some of my other, okay, 1000s of episodes of just getting on here. And talking is the idea of, I used to be kind of like against Christmas against the consumerism against

Unknown Speaker 3:15 Brexit, and it's so easy to throw your, your hat in the ring with the negativity of all that shit. And I was like, you

Unknown Speaker 3:21 know, what, if there's gonna be one day, where we're like, hey, let's see what it feels like good for the sake of giving all that shit. That I mean, right? I don't care. If it's surrounded by consumerism, the man or media says you got to do xy and z, what I choose to see is that that's a day where we get to experience giving. So in that same vein, if we've got just one month, especially after this crazy year, where we got to say, hey, let's let's step up, like and, and normalize the fact that everybody goes through some shit. Right now, the beauty of it is, is that, um, its beauty is beautiful, and it's terrible, right? Everybody in the world went through this pandemic. And we're still going through it. We're still coming out of it. We're not 100% clear out of it yet, because there's some people who think that, you know, fucking we're getting shoved with nanobots. And if they take magnets to their soldiers and triple that shit out, if you don't want the cure, don't get the shot. Okay. I'll throw that out there. But we all went through this together, and it's like, we didn't have a choice. And now we've got the toe pin. So now we've got this like this, this opportunity to realize it Whatever, whatever, you know, let's look, you look at work as an example, whatever I'm going through, at work in terms of living, you know, at home, my family 24 seven trying to, you know, quiet the dog while I'm on this really important call, you know, um, and then, you know, my kids need some help with math and, and, you know, Finn, you know, is going through some things. I'm what my boss, my leadership, whatever you want to call everybody is going through the same thing, right? And it taxes the mental health to the degree that there's breakage. And why is there breakage in the mental health and you know, the dis ease that occurs that the mental health

Unknown Speaker 5:52 dis ease that occurs is like we weren't built for this shit. It's real simple, right? So what can we do? Right? What can we do? Well, first of all, I think that what has been done is that for most companies out there, it's it's gone beyond the rhetoric of, Hey, we got to care for our employees, or else we're not going to get the

Unknown Speaker 6:24 work, we're not going to say we're not going to get, we're not going to get the productivity from them. Unless we give them this face and grace and, and the thing is leadership going through that tooth like shit, man, I guess Brandon is going through some shit, because I'm not immune to it, you are not immune to it, just because it hasn't hit you. yet. Just because you've never been hit by it doesn't mean that there's not gonna be a point in your life, where you're not dropped to your knees, where you're not in the fetal position. Look up looking for a way out. It happens to everybody at one point or another. And the circumstances are going to be different for everybody. But we have to look at everybody and give them the grace, we have to understand that when you go through some shit like that, when your friend goes through some shit like that. They're not coming back as the same person, right? Meg and I were talking about giving birth, for example, and expecting a woman to carry you know, so expecting a woman to, you know, carry a body inside of it for nine months. You know, nurture it, love it, whatever. Have it, shoot out your gift your whole body up to this thing that comes out and you're like, what just happened, and then expected them to come back and do their spreadsheets, just the way that they were within nine weeks? You think that's all? You think they're coming back the same? Like, I don't fucking get that. Like how, right your parents died, your son dies, you go through cancer, and you're you know, you survive cancer? Well, first of all, me out, I don't even know where that takes a lot of strength to be able to kind of come through that. But when you come back, you're not the same and that's okay. And it's not okay, though, for somebody to think that, you know, if you can't do the spreadsheets the way that you used to do them, we got to let you go. Right. Now it becomes, okay, you've gone through some shit. And maybe you can't do the role the way that you used to? Do you even want to still do that role? Is there somewhere else in the company in this organization? That may be a better fit for you for the person that you are now today? Right? Sure, if I'm running a company, and you might not even think that I'm, you're a good fit for this. What can you do for us now? I mean, look, obviously you what, how can we help you? What do you feel like you can do now? Maybe you don't even think this company is the right fit for

Unknown Speaker 9:25 you anymore?

Unknown Speaker 9:27 Let me try and help you into the next place face or place. I mean, because that's that's you that's being human right that's that's what humanities for humanities. You know, this is a shared human experience. And your mental

Unknown Speaker 9:45 health

Unknown Speaker 9:47 is first and foremost. Right? Your mental health takes priority and and I can tell you look I've definitely seen People before, right and talking about mental health and thinking about it strictly as a disease and somebody fucked up, but they've got mental health issues, man you got you got mental health issues. Shit, man, you're a mess. Everybody, everybody, everybody has got some type of mental health issue, quote unquote, everybody's going through some shit. Everybody needs support. Everybody needs kindness, everybody needs compassion, you know. So I think what needs to be normalized. And I think that if I'm gonna raise awareness, or at least contribute awareness to anything, that's what it's gonna be. Right? You go through a shitty relationship. You're not coming out the same, right? And for people to expect you to bounce back. I just think that that's unreasonable. Right, it's unreasonable. And I think that, you know, going forward, of the things that, you know, we've, we've gained from the pandemic, such as mad curbside pickup, which is great, right? Like, aside from, you know, accelerated grocery delivery, lots of good things came out of it that aren't going to make our lives easier. But I think something that has come out of this is the normalization of the fact that we all need that all we all we all need, you know, this, this kind of support, right? And if somebody is going through some shit, think Meg made a really great post the other day, too. And I'm 100% guilty of this is like, you know, she'd mentioned if somebody, I think I mentioned something about other parents and say, Hey, you got to reconnect with them or, and you know, and you feel like, there's only so much time left to reconnect with your parents. And she made the post, like, maybe that parent, like, fucked up that kid pretty good, right? Maybe there's a lot of trauma in there. And now's not the time. So just accept that Jenny, may not be so willing to forgive just yet. Maybe it's not within Jenny just yet. To let go with that shit. And you don't need to be the fucking person that says, just just go do it. Just go do you'll be proud to be great. You see, forgiveness is great. Don't be that guy. Don't be that girl. You like I will ship.

Unknown Speaker 12:34 Okay,

Unknown Speaker 12:36 let's just talk it out. Right, except that person as they are in this moment, not who you think they should be? Then I think, you know, acceptance is a big part of the whole mental health thing. So there you go. That's my stick for the day. I know, I wanted to get to it before the end

Unknown Speaker 12:57 of the month.

Unknown Speaker 12:58 Because, again, if you don't have a cause, that that's okay, I didn't have a cause I didn't have something I felt strong enough to, to kind of talk out

Unknown Speaker 13:09 for

Unknown Speaker 13:10 bright and raise awareness of I mean, look, guys, if you follow me at all, like I'm all about the spirituality space, I believe 1,000% that that's missing in a lot of people's kind of daily and mental practice, right? It just it just plays such a huge role in it. I mean, Dave's watching right now, I know plenty of poll stuffers, that they'll tell you that you know, if you know, if you can just find something greater than you so that you can kind of recognize it's just just so helpful, right? And whatever that means to you. It doesn't have to be God It doesn't have to be you know, the Almighty. I don't, I don't give a shit what it means to you. But once you find it, and you can latch on to it, it could be a person, it could be a thing, it could be an organization then you can find some solace, you can find a place to let your guard down. Right, we went around so god damn tense and so ready to defend or attack? Where's this place where you can be, you know, in military pardons, I guess at ease? Where can you be in a place where you feel safe? And I don't feel like there's a lot of places like that. And that's another thing that's going to take its toll on mental health. So anyways, Mental Health Month guys, check out prof Gotham, he's got positive tv.org really cool dude, really glad to have connected with them. Really glad that, you know, having the conversation with him that I've had recently gave me the thought to just think about what is something that I could learn leverage my platform for spiritual dough to raise awareness for outside of spirituality what is something else that you know people are struggling with, they could use some help and that's that's what I'm doing. So take these guys have a good one that's all for now.

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Thanks to my wife Meg, I got to connect with another spiritual badass Lindsey E Garner, creator of Standing in Front of Strangers Naked

Tune in to find out how you too can find practical ways to bring spirituality into everything you do!

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Unknown Speaker 0:00 Yeah,

Brandon Handley 0:01 all right. Bye 4321 Hey there spiritual dope. I'm on today with a special friend Lindsey. she say she was saved Lindsay

Unknown Speaker 0:13 he car? Yeah.

Brandon Handley 0:15 Because I said, it is very important. It's very important so that people can pull you out of the crowds of Lindsey Gardner. Right. And so Lindsay is actually, you know, pretty good friend of mags for those of you that know me, you know, then you probably know, Megan's a good chance you already know, Lindsay. And then, um, you know, so let's talk about Lindsay and her standing naked in front of strangers blog. I'm just gonna do I'm gonna read Liz gonna read your about me here off of your, your blog posts, and then you can make a decision whether or not you want to keep that going forward. Okay. My entire life, I felt like an outsider feeling like I saw things a little different than most of the people around me. A few years ago, I started to be okay with that, I started to strip off the layers that I've been carrying around for the decades and show up a whole lot more authentically, I started writing to free up some space in my brain for forward movement. First out, people liked what I had to say. So I kept reading. I don't feel super tied to labels of mom, wife, soldier, Yogi, although these are all titles I've hold held. But I'm so much more connected to the idea that each of us is on a little trip to figure out our own purpose. And this is a part of mine. And I hope you'll join me so thanks for being on. And thanks for your thanks for agreeing to be on is this how many podcasts Have you been on?

Lindsey Garner 1:38 Zero? Now one?

Brandon Handley 1:40 Oh, this is this is this is your first Well, you're welcome. Like I told you, before we got on, you know, it's it's a it's cool to get all in because a you've learned it, you don't go up in flames. Right? Like and you can do it like there's nothing to it. Other than just kind of showing up and being yourself. So welcome.

Lindsey Garner 2:00 Thanks. That's my favorite thing to do. So, you know, why not?

Brandon Handley 2:04 For the you've listened to a couple of podcasts. And thanks for thanks for being a listener. So you probably know how I open these up right with the idea that that we are word vessels for source. God, whatever, whatever you feel like calling it and you're on today, because you have a message that is going to reach somebody is yours that can only be delivered through you. Right? What is that message today?

Lindsey Garner 2:34 I actually did like a little meditation before we started just to transition from one part of my life into this. And I think what I kept kind of landing on is like, yeah, I'm not I'm not some, like giant published author had a little piece of like imposter syndrome as far as like, I don't know, what do I have to say? Right? Um, but it kept then it was like, okay, maybe I say one thing, that one person out there takes and is like, yeah, I'm not alone. I'm not feeling these thoughts or, or living in a space that I am totally on my own. And, and so that's, that's how I'm coming into this. And I think there's something to be said, for living that way. Like maybe you smile at someone, you take a second and you smile at someone, you just don't know the impact that that has in their day. So the more that we just live in a way that really feels like we're honoring ourselves, the ripples are pretty big.

Brandon Handley 3:41 Nice, I mean, just kind of just owning who you are. And I hate to say just right, so owning who you are, and that that's actually very powerful. So owning who you are, and owning that you have the power to change someone's life with your smile.

Lindsey Garner 3:57 Yeah, you do. Like it's crazy. You really can I, I work, I manage a retail store that's like my full time gig a lot. And I've learned, I never thought it would be in retail and I actually quite like it. But I've learned so much the impact that you can have just on on, like, allowing space for someone to actually show up and not being tanned and like how are you doing today? And then them just saying great. Oh, okay, great. Like it's this script we run through, you know, but rather actually like stopping and saying, No, like, actually, how are you doing today? And it's okay to not be okay. And you can say that even to somebody selling a yoga pants like it's fine. And the cool things that have opened up for me through that. I mean, I can't count them. It's phenomenal.

Unknown Speaker 4:51 What's one

Lindsey Garner 4:55 I think it's the relinquishment of ego. Yeah, I mean, you never get rid of it right? It's always there. Well, yeah.

Brandon Handley 5:03 How's that? So yeah, I mean, how's that showing up for you? Right? Like, really question of ego through your work at retail. I mean, I guess I would take a step further though, because not everybody that works in retail is able to let go of the script. Right. Not everybody that works in retails okay with relinquishing ego. And I can tell you, I mean, even in years past is working like as a bartender, or, you know, being that customer facing person. And somebody is being an asshole. Like, I am really hesitant to relinquish ego, I'm like, No, you're being an asshole. Right? You know, so. So walk me through your process of that was clearly before my ascension.

Unknown Speaker 5:55 I'm basically transcended as well. Right? I

Brandon Handley 5:58 mean, that'll never ever happen again in my life. But the deal is new. So how are you? How are you doing that? Because I think that's, that's really the impact of this podcast, right? The impact of this podcast is, yeah, your spiritual. But how are you applying it in your daily life? So that, you know, you're not? You're not? I'm physical Lindsey over here. And I'm metaphysical Lindsay over here and understanding like, and together like, you know, you meet in the middle somewhere. So that's how you meet yourself in the middle.

Lindsey Garner 6:32 Yeah, I think, um, I mean, meditation, meditation is like, changed my whole life. And I can't pinpoint it to like one style, or one time that I practice, it really is more of an evolving thing. And I can talk more about that. But what it gives me Is this like ability to put a little bubble around myself, right and like, hold in and recognize what's my emotions? My thoughts my feelings? versus like, what's Karen from Kansas that comes in my store is pissy we don't have a size four pair of shorts, like that's actually has nothing

Brandon Handley 7:14 Kansas should know. First of all. Oh, no. So so it's funny, though. So you mentioned though, the, the idea of no one set meditation I To me, it would be almost like, Oh, no, your, your, your favorite herbal tea that day? Right. Like, there's all kinds of like, one day, you're like, I need I need to calm down. Okay, Karen, meditation, right. And sometimes I need sometimes I need hyped up, you know, Lindsey, sometimes I need, you know, whatever. But it gives sounds like what you're saying those that gives you the opportunity to go in and create that energetic bubble, right, what you want, who do you want to be in these next few moments? Right, that you get to create that? Is that what you're saying?

Lindsey Garner 8:03 Answer remember, that, that? We don't have any idea what that other person's life looks like? Like, I don't I have no idea. 99% of the time, I'm gonna guess it has nothing to do with those shorts. Doesn't it has to do with a lot more, some deep seated stuff, right? And whereas I used to take that on and and, and I mean, I would take these people's shit home with me. I'm like, What am I doing? Like, why do I care so deeply about someone's reaction to foster requiring masks in our store or something like that? I am in Florida. So I mean, you know, the week you are out here, it's like thing, but um, well.

Brandon Handley 8:50 How did you, you know, talk to what's the process of going from, you know, taking that home every day to learning to let that go. And did that happen overnight? Or did it take you some time?

Lindsey Garner 9:03 No, probably years. Ah, I actually started to because I worked for a company and sells yoga pants. We have a lot of yoga. We do a lot of yoga. It's how we used to like really market our business. And so I got back it up. I got out of the army. I was in the army for about 12 years. Yeah, the army there was no no real like, like industry down where we moved. My husband got stationed in Florida. This is not where we've chosen it came down here. There's no industry that was related to my background. So I'm like, I tried to stay home. I'm not a stay at home mom. Like I just, I was making my own seasalt I yeah, my husband come home and was like, Hi.

Unknown Speaker 9:46 Hey,

Unknown Speaker 9:47 it's me. It's not to me.

Brandon Handley 9:52 I mean, I would like to know how you made your seesaw.

Lindsey Garner 9:58 The Golf Got it. I No kidding. Yeah, that's serious.

Unknown Speaker 10:05 You can buy it's pretty cheap. There's no fun in that.

Brandon Handley 10:08 I'm sure there's no fun. There's no fun in that, right? You can buy all kinds of things. But you're over here you'd like a teaspoon of salt. You're like,

Lindsey Garner 10:16 six hours. So great. Everybody gets a little grain

Unknown Speaker 10:22 sparingly.

Brandon Handley 10:23 Why are you using all the salt?

Lindsey Garner 10:27 I'm serious. Okay,

Unknown Speaker 10:28 I get it. I get it. I get it. No,

Lindsey Garner 10:30 I just got a part time job at this store. And it turns out I really liked it. The company was really cool. And it got me into yoga. I'd never done yoga. I had never been around it. I always thought it was like this, like, woo Wee thing. Yeah, so I started that and it was mostly a physical practice it and little by little I kind of came to understand. I'm a reader. I'm a learner, I am always I am probably always have like five books by my nightstand and like three audio books and two podcasts going all the time. And I just started reading a little bit more on where yoga really came from, and the true intent of yoga and little by little kind of got out of my physical practice of actual like Asana, moving my body through it, and much more connected to the meditation aspect and the the grounding principles of yoga and the eight limbs. And so I, from there just kind of started learning, all kinds of things about meditation. And we are really fortunate in our area. prudence burns here, because she has that veto song Dear Prudence, to doubt her. So that's her, she lives here.

Brandon Handley 11:52 I don't know. I don't know that I recall the song Come and get a cup of water.

Lindsey Garner 11:55 When it's actually about when the Beatles were at a yoga retreat in India. And there was a woman who sat in a room and meditated for hours and hours, and they were like, come out, prudence come out. That's her. And she's actually one of the leading teachers and she is a Sanskrit translator, translator, interpreter. I

Brandon Handley 12:19 don't know. She can she can do. She can do Sanskrit.

Lindsey Garner 12:22 Yeah. So she's here. And I met her and she shared about Transcendental Meditation with me. So I went through that training. And that was really my first go at meditation. I really had never done anything. Do you know

Brandon Handley 12:36 how much I've watched? Yeah, a little bit. So how is TM different than some other meditation forms of meditation?

Lindsey Garner 12:44 mantra base to so you're assigned a mantra, go through the training or sign a mantra, and then it's 20 minutes twice a day. It's pretty structured. pretty strict. It's very structured. And the guidance is like, that's what you do. And there's a lot of rules around it worked for me to start, but I'm kind of I'm kind of like an inner inner what, what are,

Brandon Handley 13:06 what are some of those rules? Right, and what was your mantra? Um,

Lindsey Garner 13:10 so everybody has their unique point and I'm super suspicious, so are like super superstitious. And so I am not going to tell you my, my own journey because I am worried.

Brandon Handley 13:21 Are you not allowed to?

Park you down is like a nonconformist.

Lindsey Garner 13:34 Yeah, thank you, um, but it's like, okay, you meditate 20 minutes twice a day, you don't want to do it a certain amount of time before bed. You don't want to ever do it like laying down unless you're sick. There's just a lot of it, where I'm like, it just became inaccessible to me. And it became hard for me to consistently practice it. And took some really great things from it. And then from there, just kind of started reading about mindfulness. And then know that a lot of guided meditations are so accessible now. I mean, you can pull up the meditation app, and there's like, 40 to open them up. And in that for those 42 apps. There's 1000s. So just started playing around with that. And then I went to I just finished a training but my husband was sick. You know about that. My husband got really sick last year. And throughout the course of that had a lot of really specific. Like, really like a lot of trauma. I hate that word. And I don't know why I hate that word. But I do a lot of really specific traumas that happened. I saw him

Unknown Speaker 14:50 do it throughout that through that throughout that ordeal.

Lindsey Garner 14:52 Yeah, he almost died a couple times. It was pretty hard and I lost my ability to drop into meditation really quickly. And it got so frustrating to me where I was like, this is a tool that I have that I need more than ever, and I can't get into it and didn't know why. And I reached out to a friend and she was like, hey, I've actually been doing some studying on trauma based meditation and how like, in times where you are really hyper focused on these events that have created this stir up in your brain, meditation can actually be really damaging if you're not, you know, guided or led in the right way, or you're not aware of that trauma. And so I started reading a little bit about that, and and then I just actually went to a training on feta healing, which was awesome, super awesome. But

Brandon Handley 15:49 you owe me like, more links or something on that. And here's the you know, what's funny, those right, you know, army 12 years, getting involved with yoga, and then be like, Oh, this is all Whoo, to being. I just finished my data healing. And I'd like to know, I'd also like to know more about the trauma, meditation. Um, because you're right. When you when you this happened to me, mine was in no way shape, or form, you know, as severe as, you know, kind of what you were going through. But I was going through a space.

Unknown Speaker 16:27 And I couldn't I

Brandon Handley 16:30 couldn't I couldn't get out of it. Right. Yeah. And I know all this stuff. And I'm really, really good at it, right. But there was something just and it wasn't even big, but it was just enough. Where I was so focused on it, and I couldn't I couldn't get the fuck out of my own way.

Lindsey Garner 16:46 Yeah, it turns out that's like, why happens? You just you get, all you do when you get quiet for meditation is you just replay that?

Unknown Speaker 16:56 Like, oh,

Lindsey Garner 16:58 what am I doing over here? You know, and I don't know a whole lot about it. But I have just kind of started digging in and reading some books and learning about it. But even just

Unknown Speaker 17:11 just like

Lindsey Garner 17:12 somebody else, again, like somebody else saying, like, hey, it's okay. Like, dude, forgive yourself.

Brandon Handley 17:20 Yeah. Yeah, no, it's 100% 100% when somebody else can share the human condition. And lets you know that you're not alone. And that, I think that that's something that you do with your, your blog, right? You did two things with your blog that that come to my mind. If you don't mind, like me shower, like kind of some some quick thoughts on that. Right. Um, one is, I'm a Bob Proctor fan. The dude the dude, like, wise, and you know, I don't know if there's some sales gimmicks, and I'm afraid to give them money, but like everything he says, is legit. And, and one of his one of the things that he recommends, or he talks about something that he practices is, whenever he's got a problem, or whenever he's going through something, he writes it down on it, he gets it out of his head, and on a piece of paper, out of his head and onto a piece of paper. And then he'll go through it, he'll read it. And I'll ask themselves, did I get it all out? Right? I think it's, I think it's a kind of a Karthik thing, where, and at the same time, you can look at it, it's like talking to somebody almost right. And you and I can talk about the you know, any problems that we're having. And sometimes when it comes out of your mouth, you like, was not as big as I thought that it was, like that was a pretty big inside my head, it was huge. But once it got out here to this face, I was able to kind of see it in a different light in a different way. So I think that that's one thing that you do with your blog, right? Sounds like it kind of started from a space where you needed to get the shit out of your head.

Lindsey Garner 18:53 Yeah, I was reading it if I was real.

Brandon Handley 18:57 And so you're getting readers, and people do like it. And I think that they like it because you're just being honest, sincere and letting them know and I'm not even trying to lead by example or anything again, just sharing who you are and what you're going through in, in a non sugar coated kind of way. And yeah, people get to see that

Lindsey Garner 19:21 really hate that sugar coating thing that hate it, I think. Yeah, I don't know. I really, it's like my pet peeve when you know, somebody ain't okay. And they're like, not, everything's great. Or like, this is why I'm posting on social media is what I'm sharing with the world. And then Meanwhile, it's like a dumpster fire and you're like, maybe if you just share the dumpster fire a little bit. You can have somebody be like, Oh my god, I'm actually in this dumpster too. And I know the way out. It's

Brandon Handley 19:52 right over here. Yeah, no, that's Yeah, that's fair. But let's let's let's play it in reverse because I also know that you're you're A big fan of some manifestation and a little bit of LA. Right. So then what happened? You know, how does that work in that space for you? Right? So if I focus on my problem, and I talk more about it, am I attracting more of it? Or am I learning at all? I mean, you know, I mean,

Lindsey Garner 20:17 yeah, I think about that damn, Esther Hicks Get out of my head. You don't know me? I do. Think about it. Do you think a lot of it comes from the intention in it? Right? I don't sit in my shed, I write it. And that is that is that catharsis of like, okay, I read it, I give it out. I read it. And then it's done. I'm not coming back. I'm not not saying it. And I think that's part of it. And this is like, for every human being out there. There's something for them to do that allows them to do that. For me. It's writing, right? You know, for some people it might be running, I don't know, gross, but to each their own. I can't imagine feeling better. Mentally. After a long run. I've usually I'm like, oh my god. Everything hurts. But

Brandon Handley 21:07 yeah, me.

Lindsey Garner 21:09 Cooking, like cooking can be therapeutic for people you could have great,

Brandon Handley 21:13 yeah. So for me, it took me a while to kind of get around to it and understand it. But when I'm cooking in the kitchen, I'm creating something. That's an act of creation. And

Unknown Speaker 21:27 it feels wonderful,

Unknown Speaker 21:28 right? And you're serious,

Brandon Handley 21:30 right? You get to share and then and then if somebody doesn't need it, or if they use too much seesaw, I get pissed, but

Lindsey Garner 21:36 you made your own.

Brandon Handley 21:38 But but the deal is it's like and you start to let go of that too. Right? You must see your you know, somebody who's getting pissed because you know, size for shorts aren't down. It's it's like you're not doing it, you're just getting over the reaction to what you've done or created. Right? Whereas the process, you know, Meg and I had this conversation not too long ago, she's like, I hate the process. I was like, well, the process is pretty cool. You just haven't kind of experienced it yet. Right? You haven't experienced like this, this this thing where you morphed through the process? Yeah. Right. And then like, because there's really nothing else you can say to it, other than it's the process of creation process. So yeah, and when you go through creating something with purpose, and 10, and love, then doesn't really matter what the outcome is, unless it's murder. And then there's then we got to talk, but I can't you know,

Lindsey Garner 22:35 love course, maybe I don't know. I feel like she's watched a documentary about some shows

Brandon Handley 22:40 you seen one or two on them? For sure. For sure. So let's me let's talk about what's your process. Ben. Right, let's talk about if you were to, if you were to guide somebody through it right now. And I see on your site, just as talk to me, like what somebody can reach out to you for? And you know, what would you guide through somebody through in a process oriented way?

Lindsey Garner 23:02 I'm trying to think I think the last person, or probably the by get the most feedback about is anytime that I talk about my relationship with my body. I don't want to make a sweeping statement like this is something that women experience differently than men because I think men experience the same sort of, like discomfort in their own skin, or pressures from society or whatever. But this has been a big journey of mine. And I yeah, I mean, growing up. My mom is something special. She did her best. I believe that we don't have a great relationship now. And a lot of that comes from me becoming a parent. And seeing Oh, wait, woof. That was maybe not an okay thing. I remember she told me I was maybe 30. I mean, I had done some shit in my life. And she said, the proudest I've ever been, is when you decided to lose weight when you were a teenager. And I'm like, wow, like, I want to combat had a kid I graduated degrees and have a successful career. And I was like, Whoa, there it is. So it's just something that was ever present in my life. And that constant need to look a certain way to show up a certain way for everyone else, because I thought that's what was needed to be and so I get a lot of women after I write about that, specifically, that will reach out and say like, okay, like, What do I do? Like, how did you get there? How did you get to the point where it's not that I don't care? I mean, I definitely care what I look like, but I don't attach so much meaning and expectation to it anymore. I Who was it? It was on your podcast, and they call it a meat suit. Who was that?

Brandon Handley 24:57 That was this funny Christian. It was Yeah, he's He's really good.

Lindsey Garner 25:04 I really do like, as I've learned to meditate, and as I've learned to get a connection with the divine through meditation, I realized like, this is not it.

Brandon Handley 25:14 This is funny. I would, I would love to say that this is a smaller part of who we are.

Unknown Speaker 25:24 Yeah,

Brandon Handley 25:24 that's right. Yeah. Like, I mean, like, I mean, if we infant festival, right, especially if we consider ourselves, I don't know, in connection to the universe, right? Or as the universe, depending on how you kind of want to want to go about it. You know, yeah, Krishna said that, you know, other people that have said that plenty of times as neville goddard talks about being in the meatsuit Alan Watts will talk about being meatsuit. It's not. He says, It is funny, but it's, it's true. Right? These are just, this is just something that we're wearing right now. Right? Yeah. So

Lindsey Garner 26:00 beautiful. Like what is attractive to, like other people like what is attracted to me a guy that I'm like, Oh, my gosh, I'm super attracted that guy. Another person is like, what? Right? So subjective, that I think like, it comes from meditation. And I always comes back to that that like, because I started there. And then I realized, Oh, wait, actually, I'm this ball of light. And I'm connected to the divine all the time. And like, I don't want to talk shit about the divine right? Why am I talking shit about myself?

Unknown Speaker 26:35 all the time? Yeah.

Lindsey Garner 26:37 And then I just became like, I didn't want to have small talk anymore. And I noticed this, so many women around me, the majority of the conversations were grounded around what their kids were doing with their husbands are doing in their bodies.

Brandon Handley 26:52 Would you say that? That's just because they're, they're afraid of who they really are? Yeah. How would you help somebody get through that?

Lindsey Garner 27:03 Yeah. I, um,

Brandon Handley 27:08 I mean, like, right, right. Like, I mean, so it will even flip back to you. So you think that you're divine? Right. And you're connected to the divine? Yes, you so somebody else said they are divine, and they're connected to the divine, and they still have some larger conversations.

Lindsey Garner 27:24 Well, I have them unabashedly. And what I have noticed is that when I have them, that is uncomfortable at first. And then it becomes an okay thing. I mean, I do this and I do this. At my store, I have about 30 people that work for me and they love hate me. Because I make these conversations a thing. Like if I come into the break room, and we're talking about trying to lose weight, so our size look less fat, I like awkwardly change the topic to What are you reading? What's a book you're reading? Let's talk about it? Or do you want to hear about what I manifested last year, like I unabashedly just, I just think we're playing small, and I will call people out on it. And I think sometimes it's just that destruction that's needed. And then it's like, again, it's like a ripple effect. I do it. And I see other people do it, little by little, and that's, like, greatest success of my whole life is when I come in, and we're talking about big things.

Brandon Handley 28:24 That's great, right? Because then you can see that you're having some influence, right? Or, you know, you're manifesting that right? for yourself, right? Like, like, you know, so you're able to kind of see this future state where you walk into an office and a break room, and everybody's talking about cool shit instead of chubby thighs. Right? I mean, you know, just to kind of lay it out there like that. So, it's what makes it so easy for you to, to, to, you know, feel like you're living this kind of greater life and to be able to look at somebody else and say that, hey, you could be living a greater life or, you know, stop playing small. Right? And I bring that up, because I recall being It was a few years ago, I was in a dad, dad bloggers convention, because that was my space at the time. But I was asking these guys is like, you know, what's the feel like for you to step into your greatness and I meant it, right? Like, yeah, and they shied away from accepting anything that looked like greatness and kind of hurt my heart. Yeah, it's like, Wow, man, like you're a great person, and like, you're doing something awesome. But you don't even see it for yourself. Right. So how do you how do you know how do you step into your greatness and how you help and other stuff There's

Lindsey Garner 30:02 number one like expectations, you gotta let them ships go, which I say is like, it's so easy. I would say this, like, I basically have mastered this. No, I totally not that just so you know. But I have learned so much around really pushing expectations, not not just at work in my life in my marriage, like, so much. Just because I want an outcome from someone or I see something in someone, I don't have an ability to impact their path. I don't touch it, and on my you know, like a marble, your marble hits, and then it goes another direction or pool ball or whatever. But who am I to know what their journey looks like? And how many awesome things could come from them effing things up. And I mean, that's part of it. You know, my last year of my life has been really, truly transformative. My husband and I have been through a shit ton. And I have watched him really come into his own. And he was on the phone. He had surgery yesterday, he had one more heart surgery yesterday. And he couldn't be on our marriage. Can we have marriage counseling every week? It's like, we don't miss it. Even if we feel really good. We're like, Nope, still doing it. And I was sitting in my marriage counseling, and my counselor and I were talking and I was saying how, how hard it is to be a caregiver for someone for this long. And I was like, man, there's things about my husband, that I really miss, you know, from a year ago, like, physically that he could do, or just like experiences we could have when he is truly healthy. And he was like, but what's come of it. And I thought I thought about it, I was like, this person that's here, now is so, so much more grounded in like, what's truly important. He's learning about the things that we're talking about it now. And like, we're able to have actual real conversation where we show up as ourselves instead of this, like surface shit. And I'm like, you know what, actually, right? Like, that's what matters, not the, you know, he does assess, take naps, like that's really he's in the hospital for a year, you don't come out of that in three months. So it's cool. I didn't deal with that. Because there's all this and we had to go through all that shit. For that to happen, he probably wouldn't have if he if he hadn't almost died as many times as he did, or we hadn't had any of the issues that we had, we wouldn't be here. And so that has given me the perspective to know that like, hey, Karen, I see you, we don't have your shorts. I'm sorry, that is pissed you off. I was just gonna be kind to you anyway, maybe it impacts you. Maybe it doesn't.

Brandon Handley 32:58 Because it goes to the whole idea of you know, treating others as you know, we can love thy neighbor isn't love thy neighbor, them, you know, you love the neighbor as yourself. Because, you know, in essence, and at least in our conversation in our world, they are. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, you're not getting it. And I say this so that, you know, for the person out there that is struggling to deal with the people that are paying their ass or whatever, with a couple things, right? I mean, however that person is, that's kind of a reflection of who we are. Right? And then the idea of you get what you give, so no, kill them with kindness, right? And maybe, maybe take that person out of the equation and put yourself in an equation, right? Like, you know what, I'm just gonna, you're me. I love you. Yeah, you know, I

Lindsey Garner 33:55 mean, oh, I just had a thought that. Okay, I don't share this a lot. So I'm going to share it and this is what I do. So my husband cheated on me. We had infidelity in our relationship. And here it is, like, this girl that he cheated on me this was a manifestation of every single insecurity that I had. She was the complete opposite of me. And in my deepest shit, it made me super insecure and like I'm not good enough. I'm, I don't look a certain way. I don't add a lot on Instagram posting selfies. It's just not who I am. no judgement, live your life, but it's not. And I was like, Oh my God, is this what he wants? And then I I mean, it clicked for me one day and I was like, holy shit. She is everything that I am holding on to as my own insecurity and I put that shit in my path. And I'm not you know, I'm not here to say that. There's not any like, Oh, it was me that I did that. No, I

Unknown Speaker 35:00 mean, but but I mean,

Brandon Handley 35:02 so you're taking ownership of it and one way or another, right. And, and it was really interesting. I saw jack Canfield, you know, Chicken Soup for the Soul guy. He said, just just for a moment, if you can own 100% of it, by all of it, then own it, right. But if you just own 99% of it, then there's a problem, right? But here, and what you've done is you've said, you know, you're looking at this other person, those are all the vibes that you were sending out, you were like, creating this thing yourself. And you focused on it long enough with enough emotion with enough intensity to you know, kind of create your own bullshit. Gollum, whatever her name was.

Lindsey Garner 35:52 100% Yeah. Right. And, and, and crazy, like, exactly it in my head.

Brandon Handley 36:00 Right. And and, and the thing is, there's a lot of power in that then no, so Okay. dial in the wrong fucking thing. So now, now you're like, Alright, well, you know, here's what I would change about that going forward. Right? And and, you know, you mentioned Esther Hicks. Right. So you're an abraham hicks fan?

Unknown Speaker 36:23 Yeah.

Brandon Handley 36:25 The her whole principle is like, you know, the relationships that you've had in the past, right? The idea that I don't want somebody this moves, I don't want somebody does this. I don't want somebody does that, and yada, yada, and all sudden that person shows up. Right? Right. It was funny, because a meg and I had dinner last week, we were talking about the relationships that my mom had, as I was growing up, you know, her, my dad was abusive, right? And so she got us out of that before me and before it ever earned for me. But almost every guy that I recall, her being in a relationship later in life with was abusive. So just makes me think, and I'm sure that, you know, she tunes into this one that she probably say no, but and I don't know, but like, you know, the whole idea of, I don't want somebody that abuses me, I don't want somebody to treat me like this. I don't want somebody treats me. And instead of instead of saying, This is what I do want. And and I always, you know, I have Meg do it at dinner. I was like, you know, do you pull out your Google phone, you know, pull up Google put in there, type in no red balloons, right? What's gonna come up black and red balloons everywhere? I mean, it because, you know, so our minds operate in the same way. So I mean, you know, which is something you're familiar with. One of the things that you did, though, throughout, you know, kind of this whole ordeal with your husband being this way, you you manifest some pretty crazy shit. Right? Let's talk about that. Like, let's talk about how you, you know, you focused on what you mean, Tell, tell us how you manifested that stuff. And you did it and kind of squirt water and some pretty cool things to talk about.

Lindsey Garner 38:06 He? Well, so we're both veterans, and he's 100% disabled. So most of his health care goes to the VA. When he first got sick, that was what we were doing. We were going through the VA and the VA denied him care, he kept getting sicker, kept getting sicker, they couldn't really figure it out. And we had to just kind of start and think, Okay, you know what, we got to go somewhere else like this isn't gonna work. And so I recently did the The first thing anybody says with me, it's like all call your congressman call your congressman. So we did all that, right. We're like, Okay, here we go. Like, let's do this. I don't know anything about politics. But let me get started. I'm not very political. Um, so went that route, and I was on a walk one day, all my, all my best shit comes in, I'm walking that damn feral dog. And I love my dog, but he's a mess. So we take a lot of walks, because he needs a lot. And we're walking. And I was like, there has to be a place where he can get everything that he needs, mental, spiritual, physical. All of this, like it's got to be a place. And that for me, I'm, I am a big believer in feeling how things feel in your body. And I do feel like that sounds right. There it is. And so instead of going to the VA, my first thing is I call my sister, my sister's a doctor, and I'm like, maybe, you know, is this a thing like and she started giving me a couple places I could look and I just kept meditating on that. I was like, we're gonna find a place that is going to be all encompassing, is going to follow him through to the end because the VA said, No, you we're gonna send you to a nursing home. And my sister was like, he will die in that nursing home. He will not go out. It and during COVID he would have gone by himself, I wouldn't have been able to be there.

Unknown Speaker 40:06 Yeah, and sure enough,

Lindsey Garner 40:08 people reached out for Mass General and said, Hey, we can take him on not only can we take him on, we can pay for pay for what the insurance doesn't cover. And I was like, What? And then a friend of his created a GoFundMe, and it blew up and gave us enough to cover my travel costs to go back and forth and to pay for me to take time off work to be there. And I mean, I,

Brandon Handley 40:32 I want to I want to throw out there too, like, I mean, you also have a family and it's not just you and your husband. Like, I think

Unknown Speaker 40:39 a teenage daughter

Brandon Handley 40:41 right so so you know, you got all that going on. And and it's enough to you talked about, you know, being being a caregiver for this long period of time, and I chuckled to myself is like you know, for better for worse, but like, I mean, for like a half hour or a day maybe right? But you've got this you've got this whole year going on. And what I'm hearing yourself say those like you know, when you're when you're walking into golf is walks you you're kind of tossing these questions to the universe, like you know, what we're, you know, you know, feel and then you talk about feeling it and and one thing that I think is a male and and the United States Anyways, we're taught not to feel a whole lot, right. But you know, dawns on me really like feeling really is you know, your thoughts and emotions, you know, your head and your heart coming together as one and doing kind of like a purposeful way. And sounds to me like you were feeling your way forward in a way that felt best. I hate to say like, follow your bliss, or when I say I'll say follow your hunches. Are you familiar with Florence? scovel Shinn, huh? Yes, this is my jam, right? But you know, hunches or your house or heaven or something like that, again, it's one of her things, right? So you're following your hunches and you're focused on the possible and then this just started happening?

Lindsey Garner 42:01 Yeah, it does. And my marriage counselor, anytime there was like a hiccup in our marriage, he's like, Oh, there you go. You're fast. manifester. What we think you out and I'm like, yeah, damn it. Yeah, that's true. Um, yeah. And I don't know like, you can say like, I could see right now like, I want to be a NASA or at NASA thing that thing anymore. I want to be an astronaut. That sounds really cool. Doesn't land for me. It doesn't I don't get excited about it. I feel that and if I say on the other hand, like, I want to live in campgrounds one day because I love campground people. I love the lack of boundaries that exists in campgrounds.

Brandon Handley 42:48 nightmare.

Lindsey Garner 42:52 We've talked about it. I'm like, no, it's great. Everybody like comes over eats your dinner. You they come into your house. They're like, Can I see your camper? And you're like, yeah, oh, yeah, you

Brandon Handley 43:02 get rid of the airstream. I'm so jealous.

Lindsey Garner 43:05 though nobody bought for keeping it. And me and Zach in RV can

Unknown Speaker 43:09 rent them out, by the way, right? You can rent them right?

Lindsey Garner 43:12 Well, I just don't have time to manage it. I like

Brandon Handley 43:15 I'll send you a link later. But you don't have to do the management this kind of like an Airbnb forum.

Unknown Speaker 43:21 Yeah. Okay.

Unknown Speaker 43:23 Great. Anyways, I

Lindsey Garner 43:24 mean, we're gonna keep it for our road trip this summer. So Lisa, my 15 year old daughter and two dogs are taking this little Airstream. We're going,

Brandon Handley 43:33 Yeah, I love it. So standing naked in front of strangers, your blog, people should be going and checking it out. They're going to find more of kind of what we're talking about here. I'm going to ask you a couple of questions. And it's going to be kind of like, we're speed dating, right? We're seriously right now. And woo Wayne. So why are so many people depressed?

Lindsey Garner 44:00 Don't think they're connected to who they are? think they're connected what they think everyone wants them to be? feel like they're faking it a lot faking It's exhausting.

Brandon Handley 44:12 When you stay connected to who you are, like, what does that mean to you?

Lindsey Garner 44:18 Things showing up as what you think others expect of you instead of in a way that honors like why you know, you've been put here everyone has a purpose Everyone has their own path and like the more that we get connected to that and show up in that way.

Brandon Handley 44:37 So you would you would tell somebody to kind of try and fight figure out what the purpose is to start lean into it and that would lead them to kind of who they are.

Lindsey Garner 44:44 Yeah, and that doesn't mean this like giant sexy thing. Like for me, I freakin love running a retail store, right? I used to think it needed to be this like, huge thing. I really get joy out of selling yoga pants. I love it.

Brandon Handley 44:56 And that's awesome, right? And I think that that can be And it's been tough for me to find that so tough for me to find that right? If I'm not doing if I'm not doing something a little heavier, right? Because if if, you know, going back to, if I feel like I'm in a room with people talking about stubby thighs, I don't feel like I'm living my best life. Right? And so so like, how do you how do you get out of that? And there's it sounds to me, like you found ways to focus on what you're bringing into your life and to these people through the work that you do. That is driving your purpose and satisfaction, and it doesn't have to be doesn't have to be your shelter changing the world, right? So someone's world,

Lindsey Garner 45:40 yeah, in my own little universe. And I think that that's the way that's the most accessible to everyone like it. I think sometimes, this idea of like our purpose, we make it this big thing. And then it seems so far that we don't even take a step towards it. But like, if I can come into my store, say something kind to someone, they all say all of a sudden feel more comfortable in their skin, or they then repeat that that's change, and you've made it in your own little microcosm, right.

Brandon Handley 46:08 But it's also micro, right, you go back to the idea of stepping into your greatness. And sometimes that's like, 1000 baby steps to get there. Yes, right. So these small, you're right, like if we try to put this overarching sense of purpose, where it's like this huge fuckin vision, right? Like, you know. And instead we say, you know, I think it's okay to say that. This is my purpose for right now. Yeah. Are people out there? There are people out there who believe your purpose doesn't change. Right. Um, but I think that there are instances of you know, about this purpose revision.

Lindsey Garner 46:52 I can tell you right now, 19 year old Lindsey that I don't know what my Yeah, I don't think it was the same. Right? Right. Talk about it.

Brandon Handley 47:01 Let's let's do you know, I love the idea that you you feel like you can connect with the divine at will that you are divine. That to me, would indicate that you've got an idea on kind of what heaven is and how to get there.

Lindsey Garner 47:18 afraid of death anymore, either, which is cool. Like I live recklessly, but I'm not afraid of death anymore. Because I just don't view it. Like, I have a different relationship with planes of existence in time, you know that. I just don't do it the same. Also meditation can we just all get the shit out of our head that you need to be sitting on a pillow with like, incense burning, and essential oils and mala, like, my best meditations in my car. I'm on lunch break.

Brandon Handley 47:49 I'm so glad to say I was doing it yesterday, like in the car. Like I was, like, you know what, and it was very comfortable. I had like my own jams going. Also sound therapy because like, I can turn that off. I can turn the volume up and says like, I can set like theta waves in the car, right? And I'm sitting in a theta situation. So yeah, what is heaven right to you, and how would you get there?

Lindsey Garner 48:15 I think it's actually like, getting into a place. Where, okay, I'm going to describe this because my husband, I talk about this all the time. So we have two dogs. We have three dogs, but with an English bulldog. She's 11 she's kind of an asshole. She's grumpy. She bites people. Then we have Bojangles He's my dog. And he lives his life. Just like so fully. He's so excited to see you. He is so curious and just in joy all the time. And I feel like shorty, that's the grumpy asshole. She's on her like, first life Bojangles be like on his 77th he's had time to be like, Oh, don't do that. Now, okay. And you learn and you learn and you learn and I honestly, I think that it's it's an ability to have what we would consider to be like, a life. That is that where you're like, man, I am in this and I am Yeah, there's hard things but like it's okay. And you move through it. I really I think it's more than that. And I don't really think we have a concept of it. I think there's a way I could describe it. But I think it's like an ultimate sense of peace enjoy.

Brandon Handley 49:33 Yeah, I mean, so it sounds to me that you're kind of living your life as it is and finding those moments of connection. Yeah, would be to you a little bit like having and yeah, are you are you saying then that new could have heaven here on earth and not like Belinda Carlisle song but slightly different.

Lindsey Garner 49:58 Oh, way to go. Good work, Belinda Carlisle. Yeah, I do think that, uh, now I want to sing it, but I don't want that I don't want that immortalized in the podcast. My teenage daughter would be like, what are you doing? I am mortified. Although right.

Brandon Handley 50:19 Now, that's perfect. And I agree, I think that, um, I think that it is, and I think that it hasn't closed. But I think that, you know, kind of, the more that you meditate, the more that you focus on it, the more that you make that your intent and your purpose to find in your life, you know, by pop in, you know, heavens, in my Google search engine, it's a good chance that we'll find it right, at least I can dig, I don't know how many, how many O's I'm gonna have to go through to find the one that I like. But, you know, if we put that into our search engines, then we have an opportunity to find it. So, so grateful, again, for you for free to pop on. I've enjoyed getting to know you a little bit more. Enjoy, you know, thank you for the conversations that we get to have online and thanks for the conversations that you have with with Meg, I know that you get to act as a as a translator, for what I'm saying. It's true, because once he gets to translate what it is I'm saying the mag normal language. And it's a challenge, right? Because I'm so immersed in it right and and, you know, as the idea of you become what you eat, right? And if all you're taking in is this content, that's all I can come out. And we get to I get to a point and I know that I'm not the best with it, but I sometimes I do forget, you know where I came from like this is I've always been connected to source.

Unknown Speaker 51:53 No.

Brandon Handley 51:55 No. The other day when you're being asshole you weren't connected? You're totally not.

Lindsey Garner 52:00 Yeah, I really honest part of why I write is because I am terrible at communicating my husband. And if you got it helps a lot. He's like,

Brandon Handley 52:09 I mean, that's why we have 90% of our conversations on Facebook, right? Like, that's where we catch up. She'll come in and she'll come in and let me know something's going on. But yeah, I read that, like, two hours ago, we're all caught up like, I'm on your feed from but so so again, very grateful for you coming on today. I'm glad that we got the chance to have this conversation. Where should I send people to go hang out with you? which defines

Lindsey Garner 52:33 Yeah, go read my blog. I think that's a good way and then yeah, I mean, it's it's a it's a baby blog, because they do it very much on the side and I would love one day to make that thing that is bigger and then I can do on a larger scale. So yeah, go and tell me what you want me to say and start a conversation I hate small talk. So yeah, just like drop some really awkward awesome deep shit in there my best day

Brandon Handley 53:00 when somebody so you've also got the chat function there, you know, outside of some deep shifts that you want some people to drop their what you know, what are some other things that somebody might feel reach out to you for?

Lindsey Garner 53:15 Anything that I read connects you in? You're like, man, how did you do that? I'm not here to tell you like this was easy. It took me like 10 years to figure this shit out. But I can be a partner and a sounding board and nothing annoys me more than an advice giver. So I will not give you advice but there is face always face to just be where you are. And then maybe sometimes like a gentle nudge, be like okay, you've been where you are a little too long time. Let's do this.

Unknown Speaker 53:41 Like right after you get the fuck out.

Lindsey Garner 53:43 Yeah, sir. I know a way.

Unknown Speaker 53:47 Right? Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. Awesome. Okay, thank

Unknown Speaker 53:51 you.

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Brandon Handley 0:00 All right, and welcome back. Welcome back to we are on Sreekumar. Rouse, are you ready to succeed, unconventional strategies for achieving personal mastery in business and life. Last we left off, we're in chapter eight, you always act in your self interest. And we finished up we did a little bit of the dropper camera exercise. And we got ourselves, I told you, there's a couple pieces in here that I think are really exciting, really cool, really cool concepts to think about. And that is the idea that the universe is a force multiplier. So if you're not familiar with what a force multiplier is, in military parlance, a force multiplier is something that greatly enhances the effectiveness of any weapon or military tactic. Bombs are effective, absolutely. precision guided bombs are more effective, really sure are. precision guided bombs that are led to their exact destination by a spotter on the ground with a laser targeting device are order of magnitude more effective. The ground spotter is a force multiplier, and because of him, that's, you know, infinitely more powerful, right? So the idea that we're gonna look at today is kind of the idea of new apply how you can how you can apply this, this force multiplier for your own benefit. We've seen it earlier happen that to the degree when we went through the gratitude practice, or PTO, maybe you didn't listen to the other ones, and you've already got a gratitude practice, then you've seen through that gratitude practice that there are going to be more things showing up for you in your life that are,

Unknown Speaker 1:56 you're just more grateful for.

Brandon Handley 1:59 The thing is that this happens both ways. This happens with your negativity, as well. And this can happen most often we see this in maybe the workplace, he refers to going through kind of talking about an I hate my job area, and you know, just listen, we all we all, you know, kind of hate our jobs and, or for some reason or another. But then the idea is, you know, basically what you're doing is you're sending these signals out to the universe, to give you more of kind of what you're asking for the idea of the universe being a force multiplier, always take a look at it in the way that the tourist field, right, this kind of, you know, energy that surrounds you that comes in and out and in and out. And now, we'll deal as it comes out of a core, right comes out of us kind of a core, you're sending it out and it goes out it gets bigger and bigger than it slips right back in and just really does the job real real well. And, you know, just just gets right back to you. The idea again, of the what you send out to universe returns. Another person that comes to mind as I think about this is neville goddard, if you haven't checked out neville goddard, lots of great content. old, old school mystic, well, you know, from the 1900s, or the 2000s, whatever, how are you? How have you worked that stuff out, but he's got a really good lecture called sow seeds of success, I've just recommend that you check that out. The idea, again, is that you're going to be sowing seeds of success in your mind versus these seeds of negativity. So see yourself being successful, see what you're doing as successful. And eventually, they're, you know, that breeds success. So how to treat your job and make your job fuel a little bit more rejuvenating. Essentially, if I recall correctly, the idea is, you're gonna go through your day. And you're going to look at doing things in a way where you catch the moments that you're grateful for, maybe you got some cool people that you really like working with, maybe you got a place where you can grab some coffee, maybe there's a water cooler, I don't know, maybe the bathroom is clean. Maybe maybe the heat, it's warmer, when you go into work that is at your house,

or vice versa. During the summer, it's cooler during the summer and just right for yourself. So the idea to, again, focus on what's right in your in your place of work. And just do it as often as you can. The other idea, too, that he mentions in here is that there's a vast web of connections, right with customers, vendors, communities, the public, the government, that you're a small part of right, everything that you do at your job really kind of goes out into the world anyways, regardless of how you do it. You know, it's going to kind of go out They're beyond you anyways. And most of the times we get caught up thinking about how it's, you know, you are just caught in this trap. And woe is me. And we talked about the me centered universe earlier. Well, now you're looking at this and I use, you know, how do you how do you make whatever it is that you're doing, beneficial for the rest of the world.

Unknown Speaker 5:24 And

Brandon Handley 5:26 one of the ways that I was able to do that in a previous job was to, you know, I got all pissy right. Before the book, I was like, Oh, I do is hit keyboards and click clack, click clack, I do is press buttons. And I was like, No, I mean, that's not what I do. What I do is at that point in time, I was selling hardware to internet companies that were providing the internet. And I was like, what I'm really doing is, I'm really helping to build the internet out there, making sure that like, everybody's got faster, better internet. And then we can do things like I'm doing right now share out videos, watch these videos communicate with each other from afar. So once I changed my perspective on what it was that I was doing, I was able to do with more ease, it was definitely easier for me to do my job. And I did it with a little bit more joy. He says the cathedral story, which I think is one that a lot of people are familiar with. And it's basically the idea of there's, you know, an architect walking or walking along a dusty road. And he comes up to three guys who are building out a cathedral talks to the first guy, first guys like, Hey, can you see what I'm doing here, I'm breaking rocks, because I do it, I do it to get paid, right? That's just my job is why I get paid to do. The second guy goes, I'll make the small stones that will go into the wall of the building. So I do it so I can feed my family, right, it's a little bit more purpose and a little bit more vision of what he sees himself doing there. The third guy goes, I'm hoping to construct this wonders Cathedral you see before you, when it's finished, people come from many countries to gaze upon its Marvels. So that guy sees the entirety of what it is that he's a part of. The architect comes back a few years later, and he's looking for each one of these guys, the first guy that was just crushing stones, he, he kind of passed off, I know he grew up, had a little family just kind of passed off away. And then the second guy, he he was able to find him and he was able to do you know he was doing, he was doing work. And he was living in modest comfort. And maybe he wasn't like super imaginative, but he was still known, well liked. And then the third guy, well, the third guy, he he was, he was famous and everybody knew who he was because you know, he just did everything he did with that kind of gusto. So the the gist of it is don't break, don't break, the rocks are going to all be a part of the team that builds a cathedral. And when you think about it, no matter what it is that you're doing, you're part of something much larger than yourself. And if you can find the purpose, but a purpose within what it is that you do, and how it gets out into the world that makes it all that much better. He also has an awesome line recorder has this great line in here that even the water bear in a caravan contributes to its success. And when you think about it, it's just like it's it gets so frustrating. And there's certain times when you're in a role. And you don't feel like you're playing the role to the best of its abilities, but you're still a part of the team, right? No matter who you are, what you're doing is part of the team makes it function as a whole. As the team that wins. It's never a single individual who makes it all happens. So no matter what you think about even the water bear in the caravan contributes to success. So always think about that one. So what can you do the kind of helps you, you know, bring a little more vitality and enjoyment into the role that you're doing. One of the one of the things that he recommends osric more recommends is that you learn a new skill in the part of the job that you enjoy. So I don't know, for me, part of what I have been able to do in previous positions, even though it wasn't my exact role was programming, and being able to code something. So you know, I spent about a month like learning different types of code and automation. So learning a new skill in the part of the job that you enjoy for a month at a time he recommends the other you know, do other things you so if you do that for a year, you know it's going to kind of pass by pretty quick and you're going to be kind of more in demand for exactly what it is that you're what you're interested in what's up but you go through these exercises where you know you find a new skill and you want to do that it's something that you enjoy and you just start learning a couple great places that you can do that are at Udemy place I love is Coursera I've taken plenty of courses there that are just fantastic. You know, everything from there's happiness studies International, the International Business School like India, learning how to learn parental studies, business, finance, psychology, whatever you're looking for you, there's a good chance you can find it, there are other ones I've taken over, there are

sales, there's a great sales course over there. So anything that you're looking to do to improve in yourself, that's a great resource, Coursera Udemy, Khan Academy, as so many different places that you can go to. So it says here, let's see what else, you know, essentially, you'll have an increased job satisfaction. He says, for about two reasons. One, you've acted in your self interest. But you've also expanded your understanding of self interest. And what you're really doing is using the law of increase and knowledge of the universe's force multiplier, to your advantage, right. It's pretty awesome how it all works out, and you can definitely kind of find yourself in enjoying your job and your life a little bit more. So do this, do this. And you know, at the beginning, you might feel like you're acting out a play, and it's not you, you might feel a little alien. And, you know, listen, the whole act as if thing and the best way I like to think about it is, you know, who's the future you that you, you see, that you're trying to resonate with, you know, viewer to project an image of who you want to be to the future. And you see that, you just close that gap resonate with that and start being that person today. You don't have to wait to be that person at a later date, you can do it anytime that you decide you're willing to just start that. You know, Tim, was it. So he says to like, you know, kind of do it like it's a method acting right? First, you may feel out of sorts, overtime, you will absolutely sink into your role. Think method acting. And the deal is just don't break character. If you're not familiar with method, actors just deal they, they just practice being that character for such a long period of time. So the other one, I think, is really a sneaky, clever one that he puts into, are you ready to succeed in chapter eight is this new take on networking, basically, you know, just to talk about the the idea that traditional networking is filthy, we go to these networking events are either to your, Hey, I know somebody that's going to be there that can do something for me, hey, there's going to be somebody there that I need to make a connection for me over to this person or that person. And to be honest with you, that gets like it's super exhausting, gets super tiring. And in the end, you don't you don't feel like your best, right, you can go you can go to some of these events. And do this, I've done it. And I've just come out of there just feeling tired and exhausted. And as if like I didn't, I wasn't nothing has dried, there wasn't a benefit to what I did not to myself were the people that that I was, quote unquote, trying to network with. The idea though, is to exercise and the idea is to pick five people that you'd like to cultivate, or they can be anywhere they can be people you already know. They can be friends or relatives, business acquaintances are fellow hobbyists. And really, you want to figure out like, what is it about that person that resonates within you, kind of jot that down. And then you know, let them know how they've impacted you and your life and shoot them a note, be 100% sincere right from your heart. And if it's not, if it's not from the heart, it's really not going to work out. Ideally, you're going to find a specific way that what it is that you do or have the capability to do, can benefit them and offer some of that to them. One of these that he recommends is that you learn through a company newsletter that an executive in another department is trying to organize a group to adopt an inner city basketball team, offer to join him and also to recruit others. So what can you do that just really helps somebody along their journey. So you can reach out to them any way you want. emails, super easy, Facebook, Instagram, anywhere, anywhere, anywhere, you can connect with these people and you truly you know, are looking to make an effort to help others. That's gonna make all the difference in the world. And when you when you do this, when you go through these exercises, when when when you when you act from this place of sincerity when you go to help these people in a truly genuine way. You're going to actually end the day, feeling energized lead this process of going to help others in a way that is, you know the benefit to it, but that's not really why you're doing it yourself. Somebody else grow or flourish are participating and helping that happen. And that's generally just going to, it's going to make you feel good, right, it's going to make you feel good. And at the end of the day, you can end up being actually more excited and more filled with energy than, than any other time you go to a networking event, the traditional way, and just kind of burn yourself out. And the idea is, you're not really trying to form any specific network,

right, this network is he talks about goes this, you know, if you're trying to form a network, it's going to require much effort and gameplay, right, that's what I was talking about filthy hands, it's kind of like, your network will form with little conscious thoughts devoted to it, and it will be exceedingly strong. And I can tell you, from firsthand, going through this exercise, it leaves them at least in part and doing doing some of this stuff where you reach out and you sincerely help others with without any expectation of return. I think that's key, right, your your or without any expectation of them, you know, how they receive whatever it is that you're delivering. So first of all, you get to feel like really good to do what you're doing, because for some reason, it just feels good, you're doing the right things for the right reasons. And then, you know, if, if isn't received in the way that you'd you would hope that it was received. That's okay. Like, it's really okay. You know, don't don't sweat it, just know that you did the right things for the right reasons. And

Unknown Speaker 16:37 be cool with it.

Brandon Handley 16:39 And I can tell you, again, from personal experience It Like It, it, it's awesome, right, you're gonna get you're gonna get something in return. And it doesn't even necessarily have to be from that person. Or any anything that you're directly involved with, it could come from any other different space. And, and you'll, you'll again, feel I want to say powerful, but like really just feeling that you're, you're alive, right? You're doing something that that's, that's a way to not necessarily it is it, I guess we look at us making a living, right, you're making a living in that way. So I'll leave you with this. The idea is a virtuous circle beats a vicious cycle any day. And that's a great line out of that. And that new take on networking would be again, a virtuous circle beats a vicious cycle any day, get rid of the traditional networking, and try to incorporate this sincere network building where you can go find people that you're excited to be around, find people that you really want to help out, and help them be successful. For the reasons that are to just simply see them be successful, what can you do to help them out. So that's gonna do it. We finished up chapter eight on this one, and we've only got one more chapter to go and I'm looking forward to finishing that up with you. I certainly finished it up myself. I'll go through with the notes together. But it just really enjoyed you guys hanging out with me going through this journey. And looking forward to sharing. Like I said, chapter nine and once this course starts with Sreekumar, sharing kind of what I've learned through there. Alright, take it easy.

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This one was a battle!

The audio on the intro was messed up, so I clipped it out to spare you... that being said, enjoy!

Brandon Handley 0:00 Let's hop into it. Let's hop into it. Part Two, the first part here talking about the chapter eight, you always act in your self interest. Everyone does, right. So the opening talks a little bit about how you essentially carry a lot of guilt and blame, you know, everywhere that you go out, and he talks, he lists a number of different ways that you do this. And, you know, a couple of different ways that you'll do this would be, you know, kind of beating yourself up for bingeing a Netflix series that, you know, you shouldn't have bins, or maybe, you know, you've gone off off of that diet that you've been working on, or maybe there was a was an important interview, that didn't work out quite the way that it was. And then there's another one. So you blame yourself for all those things. And then, then there's the other piece of blame, right, where you blame your parents for kind of who you are and where you are today. And things like that, or your spouse's significant others, and other people who may have ruined your lives, right? Children, relatives, co workers, it's all their fault. They just talks about the idea that these are really terrible burdens to carry. And I love the idea that he talks about when you're carrying those that you're not free to pick up some of the better things in life and keep it short. You know, the good news is really, you can let go of these things. And we're going to walk through a little bit of how that gets done. So we start off with the idea of laws of nature, and the idea that they are fixed, and immutable. Right. So gravity is an example of a law of nature. And the idea of it is that you really don't blame gravity when something happens. And the story that he tells in this book is the idea that you've gone out and you've got this magnificent camera, you're out there taking pictures, next thing, you know, you turn around, and you drop the camera, right? you're you're you're you're going to be upset first show what show you're going to be like, man, maybe I should have gotten that. Maybe I should have gotten that insurance, I but the thing is, you're not going to be pissed at our gravity for doing what is just done, right? Ideally, you're gonna you're gonna work to shape your life around gravity and kind of what happens in it. And, you know, so how does that look, you know, that looks like you've got a, you've got a strap right? around that super expensive camera, it's around your neck. So you know, you do you at your house, your ceiling has a certain pitch, so that the water, the snow goes off in a certain direction, you know, at the park of a car, can we park in the car at the top of the hill, use the emergency brake, and you've got the parking brake, all these all these are examples of ways that you shape your life around this natural law of gravity, talks about the idea that there is another natural law. And that is the law of self interest. And once you learn a little bit about what this law of self interest is, you will cease blaming others and you will cease flaming your self, quite exciting to know that there's a way to release these things that you've kind of been putting out there on everybody, including yourself. So what is the law of self interest, the law of self interest is, drumroll please, everybody, at all times, always acts in his or her perceived self interest. All right? Again, everybody, at all times, always acts in his or her perceived self interest. Now, you may disagree a little bit, you may list out all the different things that you do for everybody else. That the Justice though is if you look at it directly, you're going to realize that what you do is because you you got like this schematic, you've got a blueprint, you've got the certain way that you believe that you need to be one of those ideas is being a parent and creating that lunch for your child in the morning. And you know, I've certainly done this, but you know, the the outside, you know, we see, well, you know, I'm doing it because I want to have a healthier lunch I want to I want X, Y and Z to happen. But the truth of the matter is, is that I'm doing it because I have this certain way that I feel like I am and in order for me to fit within this. This paradigm. Then I've got it I've got to do I've got to make this lunch and I'm doing it and really almost as much as my self interest is anything else.

You know, another place that another place that you'll see this is, you know, maybe there's a hard luck story going on maybe, maybe there's a hurricane or there's a relief fund. And hey, you know what you go when you donate to that, because it makes you feel good, makes you feel good to give. And it's because it's because you've got yourself and this certain category of the idea that you're a compassionate person. And in order to act within that schema, within that certain degree, you've got to donate otherwise, I mean, you're not that person that you feel like you are, right. So again, you are working within your own self interest, even if you are out there giving to others, right, you're giving to others, because that's what you feel complete who you are, that, you know, that makes you feel like you're a good or better person. And, you know, it's really not a secret that the idea of philanthropy is to cater to the egos of the wealthy, by demonstrating that they can make a difference. Right? Truthfully, you're still acting in your own perceived self interest. And once you once you realize this, it can become, he says, a wonderful, and liberating, even if it doesn't seem that way first, because at first, you're still kind of you're walking, you're walking through your own. You're kind of walking through your own minutiae, as it were, was that is that right? I don't know, I don't know if that's exactly the right way to say it, is the idea. So if you act like this, if you're acting like this, in your own best perceived self interest, and everybody's doing it, you, you can kind of stop feeling guilty about it for yourself, and then you can also start to see it in the, in the, in the through through that lens, realize that, yes, that person may be doing it in their self interest, but everybody does. So you can kind of stop beating them up for it, right? Like, you know, blaming, you know, your parents for doing what they've done. And, again, a lot of times, as a parent, I can tell you, like, I don't want my children to do X, Y, or Z. Because sometimes that's almost a reflection on me. And, or B because, you know, I'm raising them to be a certain way. And, you know, if they, if they don't, you know, kind of do that, then do I withhold something from them, right. And then so later in life, they're gonna blame me for, you know, for example, my youngest son wants me to take take them to do like, axon is like, nine. I was like, well, maybe maybe not. Right, but, you know, come to a point later in life where he's like, you know, I could have been an amazing actor or something, my father, but he'll have to understand that I was just looking out for his, you know, kind of all the self interest, right? So in terms of when it when it comes time to blame your parents for anything, they're really just out there doing even though it's their best interests, are they looking out for you, too, anyways, you know, gets convoluted, I guess, if if you if you kind of walk it all out with the the the general ideas like everybody is acting in that same way, right. So if your parents were doing it, back, then it just let it go. You're doing it now, I promise you, you got a little sloppy in there. But I hope you followed the gist. The idea really is, again, everybody's doing it, you're not the only one, don't beat yourself up for yourself, if you do it, and don't be somebody else up for doing it. Right? Just kind of understand that, you know, they're they're working it out

Unknown Speaker 8:47 in their own way.

Brandon Handley 8:49 So it talks about the exercise of kind of dropping the camera. And the idea is, you know, take a take a moment and think about three things you regret having done what should have and why didn't eyes, think of how when you did them, you were acting your proceed best interests. And today, with greater maturity, you may see clearly what you did not then that that you thought was in your best interest, but really wasn't just kind of goes to the idea of my Angelou line, you know, do do your best, do your best until you know better really is kind of what it boils down to. So we'll pause here on chapter eight, you always act in your self interest everyone does. And I will come back to it and we'll finish it up. We've got two more sections on it that I think are probably a couple of my favorite two. When I when I first saw them and even even when I first saw the residual continuous impact of them. By my fourth time of reading this book has been in itself a force multiplier. So we're going to the universe is a force multiplier. And we're also going to do a new take on networking. Come on back Chapter Eight. Get that right back on boy.

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Unknown Speaker 0:02 We live or is it memorized? gonna apologize ahead of time. If the sound is up to its usual standards, not up to teasle standards. That's because we are leaving. We're leaving Brazilian jujitsu. This is the BJJ report it I didn't didn't make it in last week for for any number of reasons. One was what was the reason? What were some of the some of the reasons some of the things I said to myself, I mean I could have come Wednesday morning I just didn't. And then I've gotten my second COVID shot on Wednesday. And I was recovering from that I don't think I was too sick but I also didn't want to I didn't want to wake up or stress myself out to get into it. And then what happened Saturday that I just again, could have made it

Unknown Speaker 1:10 just made the decision to do a couple of things instead that was to run around the family and just kind of enjoy the day we did a lot of we did a lot of running around to check out

Unknown Speaker 1:23 houses it's not the impossible houses to drive around the area went to a farmers market so I grabbed some veggie plants for Mugu. I'm calling it my gorilla garden you know we live in we live in a townhome now is a Jo A's and you can't just can't just go thrown up kids goes off a garden anywhere you want. And so got all kinds of plans got that put together. And then also we have a restaurant stores not too far away and one hit that up because somebody's given us a pizza oven to to check out gasps our pizza oven. And we're really excited to give that a shot. So the best flower to use didn't know this was going to be a cooking show. Did you see that flower to use when you're making peace with those is this high gluten flour. Do that instead of trying to add sugar to make it a little bit easier to use the ETS really enjoy that gluten. And that's usually why people put all extra sugar into their flour while they're making pizza, those so these can just go haywire. However, the gluten extra glutens make it a little bit a little bit to hear a little bit puffier a little bit nicer. So I had to go do that, didn't I and you know, got all kinds of extra goodies from the restaurant supply store system. system was fun to to hit one of those. If you've got one nearby and you enjoy cooking, and you haven't done it yet, I can't. I can't recommend it enough. It's like being a kid and the playground. So what did we take away from BJJ today BJJ today was they call nogi. What that means is that typically, you know, typically when I go to Brazilian jujitsu, there's this uniform, there's these, these these leggings and then there's this, there's this really kind of coarse and heavy top kimono, like maybe just now that you put on and about. And this gives you something to grab on to this gives you some type of sometimes even defense because as somebody who's going to choke you or do something else sometimes sometimes it's just enough of that ghee in there to let you survive. Also when when somebody else's when he gives you something to pull on to choke, gives you something to hold on to to get grips to keep them pull close to you. So you can direct them you can grab their collars, you can grab their sleeves, you're able to grab the cloth at their at their knees and kind of pull down and there's a lot of a lot of ways that you are able to control or be controlled via the GI also with the GI like I talked about all that extra space and that can prevent someone from getting a move like we learned today or protecting actors in those which is called Today we've practiced companies called Anaconda which is a has an arm choke. And only one called the doors to my arch nemesis, the doors, which is another head and arm show. And, for me, my arms are the normal size. But it makes it a challenge to get these moves to to execute these moves when everybody's in a GI, so if you're wearing a GI outerwear and a GI swooping to give you that darce get your hands on so it's hard for me to as presented Anyways, I'm sure there's plenty of techniques, I'm sure there's money was made edit. But it's hard for me as I know it today. To execute if everybody's wanting to geek, my jammies, there's just a little bit of fabric wrapped around, but it's not super tight. It's not like it's not like thinking of whatever they wear, when they're fencing, it's always this big, puffy, quilted thing. But it does make it a challenge. They call it they call Brazilian Jiu Jitsu,

Unknown Speaker 6:14 it's like a game of inches. And it really is. So when I go when I go to hit my gonna hit that doors when I go to hit that Anaconda. And there's a there's an extra half inch to an inch of fabric all scrunched up between the two of us. I'm hard pressed, real hard press to hit that real hard pressed to hit that. So there's a thought for me as I was loading into the car to head home today is to this if you just remove the smallest of your obstacles and anything the smallest of obstacles, as this is spirituality. Based in this podcast? What's the smallest obstacle that you can remove between yourself? And we'll call it God the universe spirituality? What is what is the what is the smallest thing you can remove? To get you closer to that what is what is the one what are the tiny pieces that are keeping you from executing, stepping closest to what you want to move closest to. And, again, game of inches, I still recall my first Brazilian Jiu Jitsu match the tournament where the guy literally got me down and wasn't in the best defensive position. But he wrapped up my wrapped up my hips and slowly like inched up my body and pulled me into position had me in a padded ear basically flattened out on the ground. And all you do is like lift up my head just ever so slightly. So he could flip his arm underneath my neck to choke me. And these are small pieces that I'll never forget, because of just what we're talking about these these these inches, these small spaces, the small things that allow us to execute. I say allows to execute. And the reason I say that versus could have been the smaller pieces that allowed me to defend and stay where I was. The idea is that we spend a lot of our times defending where we are today. So that we can stay where we are today or defending what we have today, so that we don't lose what we already find to be so valuable, or at least defending what we already have. And oftentimes, we've only really, really like once you've got that much you just you're just afraid of the alternative. And that alternative could be in your mind, death and destitution whereas the alternative could really be what's right in front of you, what do you what do you what do you really want and you don't go after what you really want because you've got this thing that you barely even want. You've got this other thing that you're afraid to let go of, against the smallest thing that you can let go of that allow you to get to where you want to be is kind of the idea of today. So what is what is your game adventures? Where Where do you want to see yourself that? If it is spirituality? What is it that you could be doing? What could you let go of? What thought? What belief? What thing? What action could you let go of so that you could be closer to God be closer to Universal source energy is, I guess another way to another way to term it. And I term it that way, simply because that's been my experience, my experience has been if I let go of everything, if I let go of something as simple as breathing to my chest, versus breathing to my gut and belly, I can feel a difference in the energy sources that surges through me, I know that sounds a little goofy.

Unknown Speaker 11:07 But it's so true to release, the tension in my upper body allows me to relax more and feel more at ease. And more and more at ease in life, then I'm more likely to feel the source that is always flowing through me always available, always that will always, always there to flow through me, naturally, and it's not forced. Right. So again, just letting go of some small things, other small things that I've noticed that if I let go of them, again, I'm more relaxed, I'm closer to feeling a source and being at ease at peace. Something as easy as when I'm reading a book or reading a book. My fingers are pressed up so hard against the pages sometimes. And I think to myself, like, wow, do I really need this much pressure on these book pages to keep them from trying, right, probably something in the subconscious of the child that says, hey, you got to don't let that page turn right does is like there's a stress, keep it on that or a did a great job on that page, shut that. Again, small things that are going to allow you to get to where you want to be. By simply by removing all the things that you're already doing anyways, that's kind of the thought BJJ reports this morning. As soon as I open up the door, and I thought I thought about the idea and communicate it to you hopefully, you're having a great day. Hopefully, you're getting something out of these. What is it again that that maybe you can let go of gets you closer to your own spirituality, your own sense of being your own kind of at ease.

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Tom Paladino is a scalar energy researcher based in Florida. Scalar energy is the fundamental life force found everywhere in the world, space, and universe. It originates from the sun and stars. Chi, prana, OM, mana, life force, pyramid energy or zero-point energy are synonymous terms for scalar energy.

He theorized that all energy in the universe initiates as scalar energy; and that the sun of our solar system and the stars of the universe are the points of origin, "the storehouses," for scalar energy. He further theorized that scalar energy is instructive energy, as the entire universe is instructed by this Divine Essence. Subsequently, all spiritual, cognitive, emotional and physical action in the universe is initiated and maintained by scalar energy instructions. Scalar energy provides order in the universe.

Where can you connect with Tom?

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Brandon Handley 0:00 Go 54321 Hey, there's spiritual dope I am on today with Tom Paladino. Tom is a scalar energy researcher based in Florida. scalar energy is the fundamental life force found everywhere in the world space and universe. It originates from the sun and stars ci prana. On manna, lifeforce, pyramid energy or zero point energy are synonymous terms for scalar energy. Thomas theorized that all energy in the universe and this G's a scalar energy and that the sun of our solar system and the stars in the universe are the points of origin, the store houses for scalar energy. He further theorizes that scalar energy is instructive energy as the entire universe is destructed by this divine essence. Subsequently, all spiritual, cognitive, emotional and physical action of the universe is initiated and maintained by scalar energy instructions. scalar energy provides order in the universe, man, it's awesome. I've never heard about it until we connect it. So thanks for Tom for introducing scalar energy in this form to me.

Tom Paladino 1:12 Thank you, Brandon, thanks for the opportunity to speak on your podcast

Brandon Handley 1:16 100%. So I always like to open these up with the idea that, you know, we as human beings are vessels for this divine energy, right. And that's kind of what what's coming through us is meant for these explicit moments, you and I know we're gonna get something from this and the person who's listening to this podcast, there's a specific message that they're going to get that could only come through Tom palatino, what is that message today?

Tom Paladino 1:45 Everybody possesses scalar energy, I have instruments but but even more importantly, your mind and your heart are scalar energy vessels. And as we get into this discussion, you'll see how important it is to think highly of yourself and highly of others, and to have a good heart. Because your mind and your heart trajet transmit scalar energy. It's so important.

Brandon Handley 2:13 It's so great. I love the fact that I mean, you're scientifically based, right? You know, you've got the instruments, and you've got the tools. And you've got these use cases and factual applications, versus me who just certainly sits in here in my room and just tells everybody that they can, you know, do what they want and feel how they feel. And it's going to impact them, right. So you've got you've got tests, you've got things that you actually showing up for the one that's what I think is great, right? This is just it's kind of the pinnacle of, you know, science meets, you know, divine nature slash energy. And oh, yeah, by the way, it works.

Unknown Speaker 2:55 Yes,

Brandon Handley 2:55 I like so how did you? How did you find yourself in this space?

Tom Paladino 3:00 I was always intrigued by what what some I called metaphysics, that, you know, the blending the merging of science and religion, science and religion, as far as I'm concerned is, is an equivalence, it's the same, it's just a different way of looking at reality. So, as a youngster, I started to study Nikola Tesla, the great scientist, and he was a mystic, but he also was a scientist. And he really could blend those two worlds. And that's why he's so prolific. That's why he his work was so monumental, because he didn't discount any approach. He accepted reality as it is, he had no preconceived notions, to discount something, he was an open vessel, if you will. And I want to be an open vessel, I want God just to help me and to show me the way. And as long as you don't put any impediment, he will do so. And you'll see how you can become a prolific inventor or, or theorists, if you will.

Brandon Handley 4:03 So you brought up the idea of impediment. And I think that I've heard you say this a little bit. I'm listening to one of the other podcasts. What would some impediments be?

Tom Paladino 4:15 Every everybody has an impediment. And the role has created those impediments. And sometimes sadly, we've bought into it. And you can't limit yourself. Don't let the road limit you don't limit yourself. People have unlimited potential. But you know, some people say they we live in a box and in many ways we do. don't define your life by by the way others want to place you in that box, you really have to live outside of that box. And you have to follow the truth. I've always prided myself and in following the truth, if you will. And I realized I'm iconic classic. I realize I'm cutting edge. But that's what it has to be. You can't necessarily Run with the pack all the time. The pack is not necessarily correct.

Brandon Handley 5:05 Yeah, no, it's funny, right? Like, I've never been a big fan of the pack. I'm not sure whether or not that served me or not to date. But it sounds like you know, again, it's, it serves you and allowing you to, to follow a path less traveled and finding some pretty, pretty exciting spaces and places. So you tap into Nikola, and you realize that he's open, nothing is left out. And then, you know, what are what are some of the next steps, right, like walking through, like even bringing this up to your family and saying, Hey, you know what? I found this thing called scalar energy. And I'm all in what's your family saying to us? I mean, where are you? What's happened at that time in place?

Tom Paladino 5:50 Well, God bless my parents are no longer with us. But they always looked at it with a critical eye, if you will. They were really, really not too keen on this, because they just didn't understand it. And I have a very supporting wife she's fully in. And thank God for that. But if you will, what am I describing? I'm describing a new technology. It's technology where we can harness the sun's energy or the stars energy. And many people think that that that is just a little bit too esoteric, then how could you possibly do that? Well, Nikola Tesla did that and was very successful. And in many ways, I'm walking in his footsteps. So it is a new and emerging science. It's the new way of looking at reality. And I consider myself a trendsetter. There's not many people on the planet that are doing what I'm doing. So for now, I stand alone. But I know that this will pay big dividends in the future, and then eventually, the world will see the merit of this research. So I'm at the vanguard, I'm happy to be at the Vanguard. I can't say that there's many people are following in my footsteps or the footsteps of Nikola Tesla, because it's, it's so laborious. And it's so difficult, and it's hard to get people to even convince people that this type of energy exists.

Brandon Handley 7:14 So how have you been able to confirm that you're continuing Tesla's work? Right? Right?

Tom Paladino 7:22 Well, it came to my observation that test the leader in his wife was not working with electricity, he himself said he was working with non hurting energy, meaning it's not electricity, it has no frequency. And that's what I'm working with this energy. scalar energy does not have a frequency, it's nine hertz. And so in that sense, I'm following in the footsteps of Tesla, Tesla had scalar energy instruments, I have scalar energy instruments. What's my point? Well, if you can go back to whoever the series of events that brought upon the computer that was quite unique, you know, there are many people who could lend their hand to that. But nonetheless, it was, at one time, it was a new science, that new and emerging science, and that's where we're at right now with scalar energy. There's very few researchers, it's the new and emerging science. I know I'm on the right track, I know that I have bonafide scalar energy instruments, and what I really want to inculcate is this, it's not electricity. I'm working in a different dimension. This is what it's hard for people to understand. It's not electricity.

Brandon Handley 8:36 Tom, so non hurts in? And I'm just trying to let you know, right? I'm thinking of radio waves and frequency, if it's not hertz, and does that mean that there's like, there is no upper down amplitude or anything like that. And that is just it's available kind of at all times.

Tom Paladino 8:56 It's the matrix it permeates the universe.

Unknown Speaker 9:02 The universe.

Brandon Handley 9:05 So we're already kind of immersed in it, we look at it like more like almost like holographic technology.

Tom Paladino 9:11 Exactly. Okay, universals holographic. So in a hologram, there really is not point A and point B. Everything is one point.

Brandon Handley 9:21 Right?

Tom Paladino 9:22 There's terms that you use, such as quantum entanglement, meaning what that everything is connected pre connected. So if you will, let me use this analogy. If you're looking at the East Coast of the United States and the West Coast, those are two different regions. New York City is not LA. In the electromagnetic spectrum. Those are two cities in the scalar energy spectrum, New York and Los Angeles are connected. They are pre connected, meaning what it's a holographic representation of the United States. It's no longer that can be plotted out on the grid system. No, everything is one point. It's quite profound.

Brandon Handley 10:04 I love that. Right? So there's no time and space in that. And then my interpretation, my understanding is that in a hologram, all information is contained in any single point of information. Yes. Okay. Really? Okay. So, so, so scalar energy is is, is all about there is no. Is it is it? Is it right to say that there is no specific, like variants in it, right? Like it's one size, energy that fits all type of thing.

Tom Paladino 10:46 Yes, that's it. That's a nice way of describing it. It really is the mind of God, what some people call consciousness, you've heard that time consciousness, what does that refer to? It refers to information field, a universal holographic information field, that's what I'm working with. Now, you could you could see why if I had my druthers, the entire road would be on scalar. Because it's an infinite source of energy, it's kind of obvious.

Brandon Handley 11:15 Here's what I liked about too, I heard your account, like I said, I listen to a couple of your podcasts. And one of the things that I really enjoy is like, you know, I'm working to, you know, maybe branch out and you know, connect with a few 1000 people, right? And and what is your vision for your practice, if you could share that with the audience,

Tom Paladino 11:34 I want the world to convert to scalar energy, it's a much superior technology than that of electricity. And once we have this new technology in place, it will really forward the human race, this is really going to help to advance mankind. So if you look, look at our trajectory, look, look how mankind has has progressed over the centuries. And technology is one of the tools that really have made our lives enjoyable, affordable, comfortable. I'm saying that scalar energy is the next quantum leap, you know, the pun intended scalar energy is going to be the game changer for us. So your your, your your goal, your mission is to impact slightly more than 1000 or a couple 1000.

Brandon Handley 12:22 Your goal is to impact the entire planet. Yes,

Tom Paladino 12:27 that's my gut,

Brandon Handley 12:27 which I love. I love that right? Um, yeah. And and the fun thing is, is there's no reason why that's not possible. Right? Right. If we look at the grand scheme of things, you're leveraging universal cosmic energy, which is the entire, you know, currently known universe to worldly, right, which is like this speck of dust. So why not? Why?

Tom Paladino 12:59 Why not? Why not reach for the stars? Why think small Think Big? Right?

Brandon Handley 13:05 Right. Right. So the tools that you've developed? How are they able to, you know, how many people can your current tools impact at one time? Well,

Tom Paladino 13:20 I want to make this clear. When I work with people, I work with them by way of a photograph. Now, what do I mean people email me their photographs, and they I connected them in the quantum realm, there is no physical connection. It's all informational. So to answer your question, my instrument can easily work with 2030 40 million people a day by way of a photograph. Now you see why I'm thinking big scanner energy instrument can send energy by way of a photograph to 20 30 million people in one day.

Brandon Handley 13:54 Yeah. So what Yeah, and I've heard some other stories, too, just the eradication of HIV, herpes, other viruses? You will Let's share a couple of those stories, I think, yeah, the story of how many people that did they went through an HIV study in Africa,

Tom Paladino 14:14 right, right. Well, let me lay the groundwork. With this instrument, I can control molecular forms atomic forms. So people will send me photographs and I can I can buy wave their photograph, I can identify a virus that they have, by way of the quantum field again, everything I do is by way of a photograph. So I have been receiving photographs from an HIV AIDS clinic in Delhi, India, and many of those people are HIV positive. And by working through their photograph, I can detect the HIV virus from their photograph and I can negate it, break it down, transmute it, call you call it whatever term you want upon the photograph. So my work is directly and exclusively to a photograph. Well, lo and behold, these people are going out and getting a test. Some of them are polymerase chain reaction tests. And after I work with these people, they find that they have no HIV. It's been eradicated. It's been fragmented. So you can't, you can't explain the apple by the orange, so to speak. And if my scalar energy instrument is working in one paradigm, scalar energy, it's hard to relate that and to substantiate that and then the electromagnetic spectrum. But the evidence is becoming overwhelming. If I can eradicate breakdown a virus by way of a photograph, that usually translates into better health for a person in the electromagnetic spectrum,

Brandon Handley 15:53 looking at reality, so you but but let's go back to you know, it was it was 50 people in the study, right? And how many of the 50 were you able to eradicate the HIV virus and

Tom Paladino 16:05 Oh, so far, everybody that had a test, everybody gone to get a test, all of those tests are negative, HIV negative. So again, let me put this in the context. I live in the United States, I've never been to India, but people from India send me their photographs, people are HIV positive. And after working with their photographs for a few months, many of those people will subsequently get a test the polymerase chain reaction tests and those tests come back negative.

Brandon Handley 16:36 and want to go back to kind of the beginning of the conversation, we said everybody can kind of do this. Right? How is does your tool like train the person to do it? I'm just kind of curious, like, how do you see that? Right?

Unknown Speaker 16:53 here's,

Brandon Handley 16:54 here's an, I'll bring it up for this reason. I'm like my sitting around, you know, Yogananda. Autobiography of a Yogi right. And one of the scenes, a couple of things, one of one of his masters in their chairs a person by giving like them a drop of oil, right, but the drop of oil is more of a prop. Right. So I guess the greater question would be, is it your machines? Or is it you, Tom? Who through your machines are curing people? Right? Yeah,

Tom Paladino 17:26 I would say it's, it's, it's God's energy. This is what I've discovered about scalar energy. I don't claim any healing ability myself, I believe what I've tapped into scalar energies, the divine energy, what? consciousness or or the gift of the Holy Spirit. I know people have holy healing hands, holy hammer, if you will, right. That's pure energy hands. So what I'm working with in and of itself is a healing property. scalar energy is a healing property. And when I send that scalar energy to a photograph, although it's symbolic, it nonetheless seems to have a healing property.

Brandon Handley 18:07 Right, right. Right. I mean, look, if it's working, I'm more of the I don't care how it works kind of guy. I mean, if you come up to me, and you cure me, like, I remember, who was it, it was the Wayne Dyer, you know, talking about crystals, right? And he's like, Listen, if I've got a if I've got hemorrhoids, right, and you told me that I sit on this crystal chair over here, and it's gonna cure my hemorrhoids, and I go sit on that crystal chair. Why wouldn't I? Right, right. Just like so just like this, if you've got if you've got a virus. And and let me go back to how quickly how much time does somebody need to be in treatment for that cure to occur?

Tom Paladino 18:52 what I've seen, it only takes one day, one session, one treatment of a photograph, because everything in this scalar realm is instantaneous. There is no time lag. Right? So all action is instantaneous.

Brandon Handley 19:07 And I know we haven't gotten to this part yet, but I mean, how much would it cost me today? If I wanted to sign up and get one day treatment?

Tom Paladino 19:19 Sure. We we break this down by 30 day sessions, our least expensive is $89. It's a ongoing session. And it's it we break it down into 30 day calendar days, if you will, right. And a lot of people opt for that because it's inexpensive. If they feel comfortable, it does enhance their spiritual, mental and physical well being I have to you know, accentuated This is also a spiritual emotional and mental uplift if you will. We see great results spiritually and cognitively.

Brandon Handley 19:58 Right. Let me when you when you talk about about dealing with divine energy. You got it? I mean, innately right there. It's spiritual, right? Like, I mean, there's Is there a Is there something required from DICOM patients clients? What do you call,

Tom Paladino 20:16 I call them subscribers. Appreciate that, because they're not patients. This is not Western medicine. I'm trying. I've tried so hard to distance myself from Western medicine, not that I don't believe in western medicine. But by virtue of the fact, I have nothing to do with Western medicine or Newtonian physics,

Brandon Handley 20:36 but it's a whole different paradigm.

Tom Paladino 20:37 Exactly. It's a whole different paradigm. So I don't want to compare myself, or latch on to some certain buzzwords where it's confusing.

Brandon Handley 20:46 Right, right. You also mentioned to the the idea of comparing the apples to apples and apples oranges. If I had to, though, what would the electromagnetic comparison beads to be able to weigh this thing out? Right? I mean, because look, if if I just made you off the streets, Tom, and I'm not like I'm and I'm not Captain spiritual, which I, which I already am, right? And I'm already a believer, like, it doesn't take much for me, but like for the non believer, like, what can how can how can we compare this? How can we help them to see that? The what's the benefit in it for them?

Tom Paladino 21:23 It's tough. Let me let me frame it this way. All energy begins initiated from the stars that scatter energy, it's a double helix. And then when that energy breaks down, are converts into electricity and magnetism, that's an inferior, that's a substandard energy. So if it's like Grade A or a Grade B, what do you want in life, I prefer grade eight energy, which is scalar energy, which is the primal energy of the universe, whereas electricity and magnetism is a derivative, a derivative of scalar energy, and it's inferior. Why work with gray? b? Why work with the inferior energy? I don't want to hate grade v.

Brandon Handley 22:07 So yeah, man, like, I mean, talk to me a little bit more about the journey, though, into it, right, like, so you got your parents that are kind of just believers are not necessarily just believers, but they're like, there goes Tom, right, with a scaler. You know, turning this into a career you've got, you've got an actual practice, as it were, you've got an office, you've got, you know, you run a business, right? So I gotta imagine there's some business loans here, there. There's, you know, some some people that you're trying to hire. And you know, there's some conversations and what

Tom Paladino 22:41 is some of that like, because I'm curious if it's the necessary component, if you're going to bring this out to the, to the public, I've been at this now for 40 years, I've only had a public website for 10 years. So the previous 30 years, I was acquired researcher, and I enjoyed that. But there's only so much you can do. So I said to myself, in order for me, really, to get this out to the general public, I have to demonstrate something that's going to help people I have to prove it. And that's why I brought the website on. Otherwise, I would continue being a quiet, not unrecognized researcher. Well, to answer your question, after 10 years, it has been quite laborious, a website, hiring people advertising, although I enjoy it, nonetheless, a podcast every other day. All of this is an effort, and it's time consuming. And this is what has to be done. Now, and again, I'm one of the few scalar energy researchers out there. So this is quite a novel topic to most people. So again, I'm leading the I'm at the vanguard of this movement, but just a few people.

Brandon Handley 23:53 So what's what's that space look like? Right now? How many people are invested in this? across the world?

Tom Paladino 24:04 I see a growing awareness to answer your question. It's a growing awareness. How intrinsically involved are people that's that's hard to say. But at least I see a growing awareness and what the next five to 10 years should experience should be really hyper growth or or people should at least become aware of this to the point that it should be a household word in the next 10 to 20 years. So we still have a lot of growth to go, but the tough part is over. I can I can see that. You know, we are riding the wave, there is a wave now finally.

Brandon Handley 24:40 Well, you know, I guess the other question, too, would be you know, you brought up Tesla who was a Marconi, who's your Marconi.

Tom Paladino 24:50 I admire tests. I admire all scientists, but nobody can hold a candle to test them. I studied what I mean

Brandon Handley 24:57 by that, right. So you remember like Marconi was the guy that It took a took the radio wave patent or the wireless technology patent, basically. And Tesla had already kind of figured it out. Like, there's got to be somebody else out, there's kind of maybe they're not stealing your stuff. But like, who would you say your peer is out there? Do you have a peer,

Tom Paladino 25:15 I don't think I have a peer at least I haven't seen it quite yet. I don't mean to be condescending, but it's so hard to invent these instruments, control them, and then to be able to administer this energy. You know, I always give people that analogy. Now, a couple 100 years ago, we knew that there was electricity, we would get a static discharge, but from a static discharge to controlling and harnessing electricity and a conduit in a in a home environment, and to be able to control it without hurting yourself that that could took some doing so that that, if you will that timeline was a rather protracted timeline?

Brandon Handley 25:58 No, you're right. I like it. I like in this type of energy to once you kind of tap into this divine source, right, very similar to what you say you can use it improperly. And you can do a lot of damage to yourself, how have you been able to harness it and focus it for for good? Yeah. What was that process like for you?

Tom Paladino 26:24 Like anything, this is a tool and the tool can be used for good or evil. And I'll start off by saying that. So what do I do with these instruments, I have a a pro forma, I have a technique and I never deviate from it. And the technique that I've developed is, is help the getting it it is it does enhance our help our quantum help. And that's the key to follow those parameters and stay within those parameters. Tessa sometimes would prefer to scatter energies, the ability to eliminate the world he considered it radiant energy, and he was going to provide free energy for mankind. So his instruments were much stronger than mine. And, and some people think that the military tried to persuade him to develop this for for the sake of weaponry. I don't know how far that went or, or if Tesla ever shared any information. But that's the potential here. This energy is so strong, and it's a fundamental primal force in nature. This could be one heck of a weapon.

Brandon Handley 27:35 Right, right. Yeah, if if I think some of the stories or documentaries that could be believed, like as soon as he died, right, like that his hotel room gets raided, and all the information is taken out. Right, right. The date, I gotta imagine that I got to imagine too. I'm not a super conspiracy theorist. Guy, but you know, it was him and Gosh, who's the other guy? Westinghouse. Edison, right, like the rivalry that was going on? And, and, you know, big business, if you're giving out free energy to everybody. I mean, what's that gonna do to all these other people that, you know, are kind of counting on right. And this is a monopoly era to where it's like, right that that was going on?

Tom Paladino 28:20 Yes, yes. And as the story goes, JP Morgan was a one time financier for Tesla. And according to the story, once, once Morgan understood that Tesla had a free energy device, that ended their relationship. He never got a penny again from Morgan.

Brandon Handley 28:40 Yeah, what a shame, what a shame. Um, you know, so much so much to dive down into about him. So I think some other questions I would have to a big part of this podcast is really, you know, kind of facing some of what you've had to face yourself already is kind of coming out with like, some of these non traditional beliefs and stepping into them, right, you open this up with one of those types of things where, like, you know, you surround yourself with positive energy and kind of move yourself forward through that. And you know, a lot of a lot of good things can happen for you. You did mention your children, how old are your children?

Tom Paladino 29:17 I have two stuck kids 30 and 31.

Brandon Handley 29:21 How do they How do they How are they with this for you?

Tom Paladino 29:26 They're fine, they understand it? Because they see that I'm grounded on a fairly grounded person. I'm not up to the clouds, and they see the merit and they realize that this is a scientific process. Now they've seen the laboratory. So this this is not, if you will, anything but a scientific approach. No,

Brandon Handley 29:48 I mean, great. And I love that. So have they, at any point, like tried to join you with the studies or anything like that?

Tom Paladino 29:56 No, and I'll tell you why. For one glaring reason I don't mean to be condescending to anybody. There's no money in this. There is no career.

Brandon Handley 30:07 We not an interest or cure a cure for the whole world. And there's no money.

Tom Paladino 30:12 No, no. As as of right now, no, I, I live hand to mouth rankly. And it's amazing how this is suppressed technology. Let's let's just cut to it. And if what I'm saying is true and accurate. Well, you would think that responsible parties from the government, academia, to corporations to think tanks would approach from not one,

Unknown Speaker 30:39 not one. Have you tried to approach any of them?

Tom Paladino 30:43 Yes, yes. And there's no interest.

Unknown Speaker 30:47 There's no way

Tom Paladino 30:48 to cut to the chase so many. And I'm not pointing out any specific government corporation or individual, but so many people are in lockstep with the status quo? Yeah, I

Brandon Handley 31:01 mean, there's the status quo, right, don't deviate from the norm. You know, that's kind of the old, old school, tribal, you know, scarcity, get thrown out of the getting thrown out of the tribe mindset. Right? If you if you deviate from from the norm. Do you have like, what the typical reason? I mean, I gather not interested but like, what do they say? They just say that that can't be real. There's no way Why would we do that? Like, what is the response?

Tom Paladino 31:31 Most people look at my results, I'm results driven, I believe in performance. And after they look at my results in performance, they usually, they usually keep their mouth shut, because they know that that there is performance, and they know that this is just not hyperbole, but they don't want to help. You know, in general, people and entities do not want to help me, because it's against the status quo. And this is a threat to the establishment. I can't stress this enough, scanner energy is going to make obsolete many of the existing monopolies. And what I'm doing is such a threat to those who have this monopolistic control over society.

Brandon Handley 32:16 Have you had anybody tried to, you know, kind of any such suppression, like, you know, just kind of like people trying to steal your equipment or break into labs kind of software? Like now I'm now I'm all in like, I'm just kind of like, you know, what can be happening? Because, like, you're saying, like, this is a technology that, you know, it's taking you years to build? I imagine that if somebody breaks in and, you know, messes with instruments that that's kind of set you back? Yeah, yeah.

Tom Paladino 32:43 But I have to rely upon God's help. And you know, I can't stress this enough. I'm, I'm alone, there is no second scatter energy researcher, there is no research term. You're looking at the research term, team.

Brandon Handley 32:57 Yes. I mean, God. So what do you mean? How are you going to propagate it? Right? How are you going to make sure that it enters

Tom Paladino 33:06 your right? I'm 61 years old, and I don't have a there is no protege. Nobody shows any interest in this. So the world has to embrace this within the next 20 years? Because I don't, I don't I don't know if I'll be around much longer. So with that in mind, this is the challenge. And I just take this day by day, it's all in God's hand.

Brandon Handley 33:34 So what if I don't know what somebody is listening to us today? And they're like, Hey, I'm totally interested in becoming a protege. I'm totally interested in becoming an understudy. Are you open to stuff like that?

Tom Paladino 33:45 I am with this caveat. You have to be financially secure, there's no money in this. I'm gonna repeat that there's no money. Remember to you have to be willing to study, perform independent study for 1020 years before before you really understand this? How many people are financially stable, or perhaps well to do and want to spend the next 20 years laboring with a science that's not recognized that might not pay any dividends? After 20 years of research? Very few people want to make that commitment.

Brandon Handley 34:26 is tragic. Right? Given given, given what you're saying and you've proven it can do that there's nobody else kind of willing to pick up and carry that torch with you. finance it or anything like that. That's, I mean, to me, that's, to me, that's mind boggling. Because we go back and you talked about the people getting cured from HIV, there's no news flashes. There's no you know, anything like that. There's nobody publicity like who's I mean, have you reached out to newspapers and anything like that what's happening there? What are the No,

Tom Paladino 35:04 they don't believe it. It goes against their grain. And he you have to consider many of these media outlets. They're funded by Big Pharma. They're funded by big oil. They're they're in bed with with big government now.

Brandon Handley 35:21 So what keeps you doing man? Well, what

Tom Paladino 35:24 do I tell people just just help get the word out? It's all grassroots. And you know, we've got some of the greatest technology in the world. It should be headline is it's not, it won't be. It'll all be grassroots. And that's why I appreciate your platform. Brandon, I appreciate what you're doing. That's what it's gonna take grassroots.

Brandon Handley 35:44 Yeah. I mean, it's just a different way of thinking. said it's possible. Right? And why not? I mean, the real question is, why not? Yes. Right. And if you're, if you're, if you've got studies and proofs and theorems, I mean, why not? That's, that's what's killing me. So, yeah, definitely a lot of fun. I'm sure we could probably, you know, go all over the all over his face with it. Um, let me help me. Um, so, one thing I was thinking about, right, as we're doing these, I almost think about these kinds of podcasts is as like, speed, dating, speed dating space, right? Like, you know, there. That's probably what it is, right, Tom? I mean, you know, somebody tunes in maybe they catch one or two words, eating somebody, whoever's picking up the podcast. Today, they're dating Tom palatino. Right. You know, so if we're, if we're going to speed date or something like that, what is, you know, find my questions, because I've got some and just top of mine, like, what's religion getting wrong today?

Tom Paladino 36:51 I think this the centerpiece of any, any religious movement should be love. And I'm sure there's problems in the bro. But if you keep it positive, you're gonna get over many of those problems. Let's face it, most of the problems in the world or man created, we've created these problems. So I see the problems in the real, what do I try and do I try and pray every day, I try and pray for world peace, I treat people fairly. And I try always have a productive day. As a researcher, I do my part. And I always reach out and and I'm working with people that the indigent around the world, I'm providing free sessions, because you know, the people in India that we spoke about, they don't have a dime to their name. So you have to give back to society. And there has to be a new way of living. And money should not be the common denominator. It's a shame that it's the common denominator.

Brandon Handley 37:49 No, I agree. I agree. One of the thoughts. And it's interesting, we have interesting conversations here at the house. Because my wife and I, we have new kinds of different upbringing backgrounds, right. And as I've grown older and older, the more I realized that we don't work, shouldn't be working, to earn money to be working to either kind of, you know, towards a meaning or purpose or adding value, right? And if I am at a job earning money, and it's a job that I don't love, then basically I should be looking at that as a paid internship, what can I learn at that job that I could use later in life? Right? to to do well, let's do one or two more questions of just kind of, you know, General, General stuff, you know, so what I was asking about in terms of, you know, bringing this to the forefront and talking about, you're sharing this information with your family. First, there's got to be some fear in there, right, that you were able to overcome and sharing that with them. Right. So

Tom Paladino 38:56 here, I have brand new, I have no fear because I've been around the block one many times I could care less what people think.

Brandon Handley 39:06 What what what does everybody else so afraid, often?

Tom Paladino 39:11 You know, sadly, this is a world that that depends on a conventional approach, conformity, and a lot of people don't realize they're conforming to something that's wrong. The paradigm is broke. Look at the world. There's a lot of brokenness. There's a lot of tragedy in the ropes, stop doing the wrong things. If it's not working, we need a new approach. If the model is broke, is broke. Try a new approach. Stop conforming. What is wrong? If it's wrong, stop it.

Unknown Speaker 39:45 Tom, if I'm conforming, how do I know what's wrong?

Tom Paladino 39:48 Well, you judge that by the results, obviously, you judge that by the results, you know, I have a very wonderful charmed life. I have a very productive life. I always Look to improve it, but I know that I'm on the right path. Because it works. I'm not in misery. I'm very happy. If I was miserable, that I would change something for the better, right?

Brandon Handley 40:12 Yeah. One of the things is not everybody's gonna see the video, I'm definitely gonna share the video out on certain platforms. But if you're not able to watch the video with Tom and I today, Tom, how do you again,

Tom Paladino 40:25 I'm 61 years of age,

Brandon Handley 40:27 man, you guys, I really want to look as good as Tom at 61 I'm just I'm just saying you know, Tom Tom, you got you got fresh skin, you've got like, You're, you're not sagging, you're not falling apart, you look like you're enjoying life. And I could only aim can only aim to, to get to that point, I'm going to tell you, for you,

Tom Paladino 40:47 I'm going to tell you a secret there. With scalar energy, I can assemble nutrients. So 22 hours a day, I have a process where I can create assemble nutrients, vitamins, minerals, antioxidants, my body is slowed down my aging process significantly. That's why I look this this way at age 61. I don't have sagging skin.

Brandon Handley 41:12 The the and that goes back to what scalar energy is is destructive energy. Is that correct? That's right. Correct. And, and so just by saying that, when you receive that energy that is instructive, creative force energy entering your body saying, we're gonna need, you know, we're gonna need like 99 sets of B, we're gonna need X, Y, Z of C and E and deliver these to Tom today. Is that is that, you know, a fair thing to say?

Tom Paladino 41:42 I I'm not suffering from the free radical damage that other people are. Because I'm under the care of scalar. All day long.

Brandon Handley 41:52 Nice. Nice. Love it. What is our greatest distraction? Tough?

Tom Paladino 42:00 It's hard. that's a that's a singular approach for everybody. I think I think with many people that their greatest distraction is they don't concentrate on themselves. If you just cut that make them selfish. Well, no, I wouldn't say so. I'm not I'm not excluding mankind, but try and do your best. And don't try to extrapolate too much to the road. You can't control the road. Trying to make you try to make yourself and your family happy. I see the misery around the road. All I can do granted is pray for that. I take care of my wife, I take care of my, the people that I work with through scatter energy. That's my reach. That's all I can do. And that's my focus. Sure, I see the unrest in our country. Okay, I see that the the fighting I see the, the racism, all I can do is pray for that.

Brandon Handley 42:59 You mentioned pray a few times. Tom, are you? Are you a Christian? Are you nondenominational or? I mean,

Tom Paladino 43:08 I'm a Christian, by the way, I believe prayer is the analog to just give them in other words, my instrument is the scientific analog to prayer.

Brandon Handley 43:20 Yeah. Look, I mean, it's like you said though, right. Like, you know, and I don't bring that up to to question. Any type of like, you know, is this tom tom stuff only works for Christians, right? Cuz clearly it doesn't, you know, you're, you're directing this at anybody who's open and receptive to it. And I think that, I think that it'd be great if they're, you know, I guess more Christians like Utah, right. More people in the world that are that are that practice their religion? Right. Right. embrace their religion and and appreciate everybody else for who and what they bring to the table as they as they are. Right? Um, anything that Oh, yeah, I mean, so yes, you do a 30 day but if I went to your website today, could I get a trial of scaler?

Tom Paladino 44:09 Yes, yes, we we offer 15 days of free sessions to everybody you visit a website you can your entire family will be treated for free. No questions asked. We do that because of my humanitarian proclivity, I want to help people. website is scaler, light, calm visit. Upload your photographs. Remember, we work with you by way of your photograph, all you have to do is email us your photograph.

Brandon Handley 44:36 And this includes pets.

Unknown Speaker 44:37 Yes, very good.

Brandon Handley 44:38 Yes. Yes. So this includes pets as well. And I think for this, I think it's remarkable that you're offering it for 15 days. It's kind of what I alluded to earlier in the conversation is if, if some of these things can be cured in one time in one session, who sounds like if it's me on the streets or anywhere you And I'm tuned in worst thing that could happen is that it takes me about five to five minutes to log into the website, enter the information, subject myself to cosmic energy and potentially be cured of viruses is that I mean, is that the worst case scenario here?

Tom Paladino 45:21 That that's it sounds simple. This is it's deceptively simple. It's so simple people saying that can't be that easy. Yeah,

Brandon Handley 45:29 no. Well, look, I mean, so I would have to say that anybody listening today that if you don't have it, the very least try this out for yourself today. You can be very remiss, right? I mean, because chances are in the same time today, somebody is going to go, you know, I know I've already bought something off Amazon today, right? Somebody is gonna go check prices somewhere else on something else. You could be cured of whatever ails you. There's a possibility than why wouldn't you do it? So, Tom, man, I really I really enjoyed this conversation. It's really been a pleasure to hop on here and connect with you. Thank you so much for being on the podcast today.

Tom Paladino 46:10 Thank you for the opportunity. I enjoyed myself.

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Mark Youngblood is devoted to elevating human consciousness and promoting spiritual growth, individually and collectively. He is the founder and CEO of Inner Mastery, Inc., and an internationally recognized speaker and author. He has been practicing transformational coaching and teaching the Inner Mastery Methodology for more than 25 years. Through his Pathway to Radiance online programs, he helps people heal their emotional wounding and clear their blocks and limitations so you can Love Yourself, create a Life you Love, and shine your Inner Light on the World!

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Brandon Handley 0:00 All right, well, let's let's get it fired up and we'll go 54321 Hey, there's spiritual dope. I am on here today with Mr. Maher Youngblood he is devoted to elevating human consciousness and promoting spiritual growth individually. And collectively, he is the founder and CEO of inner mastery Inc, and an internationally recognized speaker and author. He's been practicing transformational coaching and teaching the inner mastery methodology for more than 25 years, through his pathway to radians, online programs, he helps people heal their emotional wounding and clear their blocks and limitations. So you can love yourself, create a life you love and shine your inner light on the world. Mark, thanks for being here. It

mark youngblood 0:51 was my pleasure. Thanks, Brandon. I really looking forward to the conversation.

Brandon Handley 0:55 Absolutely. I think you're the first person I've ever introduced in the style of, you know, getting to the ring. But there you have it. I like to I like to open these up with the whole idea that you and I are here at this exact time, space and place in the universe. So that source can speak through us. Right. Right. And more specifically, you to somebody out there right now, a specific message and what is that message that's kind of streaming through you right now Mark?

Unknown Speaker 1:29 Well, you know, the

mark youngblood 1:30 primary theme of all the work I do and spiritual domain, really also in the corporate work that I do, is that, you know, our calling is to, is to really reveal our ratings. It's, it's to recover, that knowingness of who we truly are, and our true self level, and to be able to live our life from that center, you know, we call it living from the soul side. So, you know, in your intro, you said a little bit about kind of my philosophy, but just to recap it, you know, my approach to working with helping people to, you know, raise your consciousness and live a much better life is that we're already souls, but we don't have to become more of one, we have to become less of what we're not. And that's all the stuff that's between us and being able to be the soul, that's that, the layers of ego and all the one thing and the identification with being an ego and being a personality, that when we clear that out, the light just naturally shines, we don't have to try to shine it. And so that's, that's what's up for me, you know, it's, it's always what's up and both for myself and for the people I work with out in the world, is to shine more that light, you know, every day, clear more of that blockage out of the way center more into that identification with who we are truly, and that's the, you know, magnificent soap.

Brandon Handley 3:01 That's, that's, that's great, right? It kind of makes me think of me with the house, we just moved out of had a, this kind of this does UV light to clear the water, right? And, you know, if you didn't clear the rod, every once in a while, of that light, and then you know, the light came out, right? So it's kind of like the same thing, right? You're basically helping us clear clear the light there. That rod, one of the things that I noticed about you just kind of working with you and and just my own introspection of your choice of the word radian, right. I thought that I think that was a really great choice of words and determine and what we do here. How did you? How did you land on the word radiant? You know, actually,

mark youngblood 3:50 I had a friend who was teasing me about it and going, what are we radioactive? No, not

quite? Well, you know, there's

Brandon Handley 4:02 always some jerk out there, Mark.

Unknown Speaker 4:04 He's a great guy. So

mark youngblood 4:05 a friend of mine, who's yanking my chain on it. But you know, every image you've ever seen of awakened people, when they've been depicted, they're glowing, you know, that they just are shining. And, you know, in my own inner eye, when I look at people at the soul level, they're just blazing with light, you know, and they're in. To me, it is radiance. You know, it's just, it's, it's an effortless shining of our inner magnificence. And, you know, it's who we all are. And that's a such a liberating idea. You know? It's so funny. I don't know, what sort of religious background you have. Brandon. Maybe you can tell us about a second.

Brandon Handley 4:51 Yeah, yeah. I'm 100% open. I can you know, I think that you'd asked yesterday or today about you know, kind of who you know. You know, I was questioned about asking about a woman who had been impactful in kind of our journey, right? And I told you, my mom, because I literally, this is all the stuff that kind of were having a conversation about, I was taught at a very young age, but I wasn't able to process it the same way. Right? But now it's like, kind of it's, it's, it's almost like, this was always my first language, but I was never able to speak it.

mark youngblood 5:23 Yeah. Yeah, that's, that's fascinating. Well, I was raised in a Methodist, which is kind of a moderate Christian religion. And yeah, we were taught that, you know, we have a soul and the devil can get it, you know, like, it's some sort of a little crystal or a gem or something, you know, and you've got, with everything, like it's gonna, you know, be taken away from us. And, you know, I think it's completely opposite, instead of being a person who has a soul, where a soul who has a personality, and, you know, it's, it's invented, you know, who we think we are, we created it, from the moment, we began to have a sense that there's a self here, we invented a story. And a lot of that story is really limiting. Now, almost anybody is functional in the world has a part of their story that actually reflects some of their soul qualities. But there's so much embellishment and a lot of garbage in that, that, you know, teasing the two apart, and really knowing what aspects that I'm bringing to the world are truly coming from that soul perspective, and what is just as made up, you know, and I'm coming from this invented facade, that it's performing, you know, it's, it's out trying to convince the world of who it is. And to separate those two things. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the Eagles are bad, I'm saying that you don't want to identify with it, and you want to clear it out, you want to clear out all the limiting beliefs and all the wounding is holding on to that or as you were describing earlier, you know, that junk is blocking the UV light or blocking the soul light. And you need tools to that, you know, you need ways to go about doing it that are proven, and the work. And once you do you know, then it's, it's like eating a chocolate elephant. And I don't know if you've heard that expression before, where you know, the idea of the chocolate elephants the big change you want to make. And so with this, it's, it's about just taking a bite, you know, every day or a few times a week, and just eat, it adds up, it adds up over time, you know,

Brandon Handley 7:43 100%, I have never heard it referred to as chocolate elephant, but I will it is now Forever, forever. And they're back real quick though to to I'm gonna jump all the way back to radians and then we'll walk walk forward from there. But you know, you're talking about, you know, that that light that naturally shines, and I love that you also just kind of talk about it with being effortless. Yeah. The other idea too, is that radio, you know, radio point is, is his center, and it's spherical when it comes from all spaces, right? It's not just not just flat and 2d, it's, you know, it's, it's amorphous. And so that's the vision. And that's, you know, when I think when I thought about the choice of word radiance that you chose as a will, that's perfect. Because just like you're saying that is the light that naturally shines doesn't shine never signs in 2d. It's wherever there is space for it to shine.

mark youngblood 8:39 Right? Right. Like that. I've never heard that. I love it. It certainly fits.

Brandon Handley 8:45 Yeah, I mean, so that was that was had that's that was my thought on where it came from for you. But you know, so that there we go. Right. But then we kind of joined it up in the middle there. Never, you know, and never really thought about that too. Like the soul getting taken away. I always thought about like, maybe the soul getting murky or something like that. And so it's kind of like the idea of, you know, the devil trying to come up, take it and you've got to try and protect your soul from getting stolen, right?

mark youngblood 9:13 Yeah, yeah. It's, it's such a strange thing. To think of it that way. But but it's the common thing, you know, you know, almost any movie that has references to souls. It's like that, you know, it's like, the what's the guy's name? That was the blues singer Robert Johnson. Is that his name that that went down the crossroads and he sold his soul to the devil to be a great guitar player. You know, like he wouldn't get bargained bartering away.

Brandon Handley 9:39 I remember I mean, I think of the song right, like, uh, you know, I remember the song right, like, it's kind of similar to that, like, devil went down to Georgia. Yeah. similar background, right. Yeah. doubling down short. Anyways. Yeah. Well, um, you know, what I want to know too, is a little bit about the journey of Mark Youngblood and just kind of how you came into this space for yourself, if you could shine a little light on that, if you could,

mark youngblood 10:07 yeah, I'll be glad to, you know, and, and one of the great things about, you know, telling stories like this brand, and I really want to acknowledge you for your work and for what you do with this This podcast is, is that by hearing the stories there, they're that every man and every woman story, right, this is nothing special. You know, it's not for some select few, it's for every one of us. And, and that's, you know, one of the things that gets to come out of this. And, you know, I have a model for the evolution of consciousness, and I call it the pathway to radiants. And there's stages and, and in my own life, you know, a lot of the development of the model was based on noticing for myself what happened at various kind of plateaus in this journey. And, you know, I had a, I had an awakening moment. And it was when I hit rock bottom, and in my model, the first stage of everyone's life is the wounding stage. This is when we're born, and this is, you know, and we're growing into a personality. And we're taught all these limitations, and we have things done to us that leaves emotional scars, and energetic scars, for that matter. And, and then we come into adulthood, with the baggage, you know, all of this baggage. And that's what makes us unconscious to who we are. And, you know, I've always been really curious about what leads someone to wake up, you know, what causes that to happen. And in my own life, I had to hit rock bottom, and that's where most people crack open, they either have the opportunity, at that moment, the weight awakened to a higher expression of themselves, or clean to the behaviors that put them at rock bottom, you know, yes.

Brandon Handley 12:08 Do me a favor to like, how would you define waking up? What specifically do you feel like you're waking up to,

mark youngblood 12:14 there's more to me than this body, this personality. That was my first awakening, because it the actual event was I was highly ego identified highly. And I was also deeply wounded and insecure, and I needed to prove myself to the world. And so I started this business, and I was telling everybody, I was gonna make millions, it's gonna be famous, it's gonna be wealthy. And, and, you know, I pulled it off, I was able to actually build the product that I was trying to create, at bat couldn't sell it, because I didn't know anything about selling, and I put all my money into it. I was down to about two weeks worth of money, I was gonna not be able to pay my mortgage the next month. And, and I had been trying to avoid admitting I was going to fail, because I couldn't admit that, you know, I was it, everything would fall apart. And it did. And it did. And I remember I was in a panic, I still hadn't admitted it, couldn't eat. I couldn't almost, you know, couldn't breathe. And I was sitting at breakfast, made some instant oatmeal. And I took a bite and was like sada could not even swallow it. Because I was so panicked. And I didn't know anything about meditation. But I knew if I close my eyes, and I changed the color from red, from white hot, to read, to a cooler color to blue to deep blue to black. That calmed me. And I did that. And when I got to black, there's something in me that said, I give up. Ice, I quit, I surrender, I can't do it. And in that moment, everything within me lit up, like the most brilliant white light that you could ever imagine. But just blindingly lit up until all I could see was white in my mind's eye. And I was flooded with feelings of well being and of love and comfort and peace. Well, my eyes popped open, and I felt like I had never seen the world before I walked outside and birds It was like I never heard birds so beautiful. I've never smelled air so pure. I never seen a sky so blue. Everything was just lit up for me. I went inside I was voraciously hungry. I ate three bowls of oatmeal, call my parents and said the company's got this failing. I got to get a job. And that's what we are. You know it was it was hitting bottom. And when I woke up to was this tremendous hunger to find out what that something more was because Some part of my soul was able to break through. And and I wanted more. And so I just started this incredible journey of reading everything I could get my hands on, starting to do kind of out there transformational things like holotropic breathwork. And oh, yeah, I

Brandon Handley 15:22 mean, I'm gonna jump in here real quick. I mean, because I mean, right there, right? I mean, you're, it's funny to me, right? You're seeing a lot of breathwork popping up now in the social media space, but it's always been going on, it's just a new awareness to maybe this generation, right or this space. But at the time that you were doing it, my guess is like, when did you start doing that? breathwork

mark youngblood 15:49 I think there would have been in about 1985

Brandon Handley 15:54 or so. Yeah, you were getting some looks? Because you may you were getting some looks, you got the selfies that are, you know, yuppies are coming into their own right about that. Right? Right. Well, good mark, we told you we don't do that. No more. Right. And so so you got those guys coming in at it. But I want to I want to touch touch on a couple of things that you're talking about before moving forward. Because you know, you're talking about your ego identity. I'm personally I always get caught up in exactly what ego is. But you know, you're sitting there, you're in a space, you're being overwhelmed. You're you're feeling like massive constriction, you've lost like all flavor and sensation, like life sensation, like, I can't, no more. And then the moment of surrenders is that kind of that, that moment of release? Yeah. And the giving up like I give up, doesn't have to signify I give up on life. It's like I give up on. I'm gonna say, pardon my French on my podcast, where I give up on all this shit. And I let it go. Yeah. Right. And as soon as you do that, as soon as you did that, yeah. You opened yourself up.

mark youngblood 17:02 Right? And here's the thing about it. I, I didn't know I was going to do it. It was spontaneous. And it doesn't work to just go okay, I give a

Brandon Handley 17:13 we talked about this in your group the other day, right. And we talked about the idea that if this is something that you're looking this in relation, my similar state of that space of this, the all of Canada, I jotted down here I tuned into a whole new channel right there like you went outside you like you You walk in as the Disney Channel now it's all lit up. It's vibrant. There's their sense, there's smell is this is like, where, where's this? Where's this wonderful place? Ben my entire life. Right? And it's like, and it's like back then. Right? Like, and I was already thinking about this earlier is like, we had we had those rabbit ears back then. Right? We had to tune in even like the UHF. If you really wanted to get like Fox back in the day, you had to like go to channel 47. And channel 47, you had to direct it, you know, put it put a little bit of aluminum on top there to really get to get to that channel. But you knew a sense of space. Yeah, that had always been available to you. Yeah. Right. But it wasn't until you let go of who you thought you had to be to be successful. Or, again, just letting go of it all.

mark youngblood 18:21 It was, you know, probably letting go might not be a word that represents what it was more like a collapse. It was more like you think about the ceilings coming down. I'm getting crushed under the weight, I've been trying to hold it up trying to hold up and while I was holding up was the false image of who I was right. And, and trying to defend it against the world. And the weight got too much. And I just went I quit trying to hold it up. And it's just like, and to me, it was ego death. And you know, there's definitely a part of me died in that moment.

Brandon Handley 18:57 And this, I just want to get back to the point though, to where like you, it's really hard to time this moment. Right? Nobody, nobody times overall collapse, right? A life collapse. You know what, like, I think Tuesday at 445. And falling heat to the ground with all with all this and it's on the calendar

Unknown Speaker 19:17 is gonna happen, right?

Brandon Handley 19:18 If I'm lucky, I'm gonna have a spiritual breakthrough at the same time. Right? So don't bother calling me at 445 on Tuesday, I'm busy. So that it doesn't it doesn't happen like that. And I think that was one of the things that you're saying to Salt Lake. Yeah.

mark youngblood 19:33 Right. Right. Lots of other people wake up in different ways that I think many, many, many people wake up when they reach their own personal collapse. That could be you know, if you're identified with your job getting fired, it could be a scandal. It could be you know, the collapse of your marriage or death of someone close to you a threat to your own life. Yeah, lots of things. And kind of in the painful way of waking up, can do that. But you know, it can also happen spontaneously just out of grace. You know, it's, that's what I was saying a while ago, to me, it's a little bit of a mystery how it happens. And I don't think I could have rushed it, I don't think I could have done it, you know, in any other way. Now, I will say this, the people who are listening, if you haven't had that moment, I do believe that you can gently evolve your way forward, using tools like a I'm gonna say, my inner mastery methodology, which is kind of a toolkit for emotional healing, you know, being able to change how you think clear your energy, that sort of thing. But there are other tools out there. If you devote yourself to doing that healing, proactively, without waiting for things to get bad, you're going to be raising your vibration, and you will reach a threshold because there's not just one threshold, maybe we ought to talk about this, Brandon is the plateaus, you reach a threshold new plateau, then you climb again, and you reach the next threshold, you break through to another kind of awakening to that next level of consciousness. And then you know, you're there for a bit and then you climb, climb, climb, and you break through the next one. And you can get there you can break through without the world having to go to pieces, if you do your work, because this is as your vibration increases, you got to think about it. Kind of like turning the the stove, the heat on the stove up under a pot. And it reaches a boiling point. And at that point, everything in the water comes out, right? Because it's boiling it out to the surface. Well, when you reach these thresholds, it's a quantum leap, you're here in your vibrational frequency and boom, you pop up to another frequency, but you still have frequencies in you that don't fit this new frequency, they're appropriate for that bed level you were before, and they're going to boil out, they're going to start coming to the surface to be cleared. And that's why we call it a dark night. This kind of disrupts your world for a while,

Brandon Handley 22:21 I would have to say that, you know, I shared this again, in the group that I think that I you know, my first kind of stumbling into enlightenment as it were right. I hesitate to call it enlightenment, my, you know, I stumbled into just a different channel, right? A different way of being real similar to your moment. Right, and I couldn't have timed it. But to your point, and maybe you reminded me of the book, neuro Dharma by Rick Hanson, too, right? He echoes your sentiment where you can cultivate this space, right? You can, you can, you can begin to do the work now. And that'll make the landing or you know, the space, a little bit more prepared, right, like yours, because yours was under the heap of ego identification. You know, I was like, What just happened? Right? Like, you know, like, Where am I and what just happened. But if you kind of just do the study, eating the chocolate elephant, right, the elephant, you know, and with the idea of just cultivating the space for yourself, right? And I always, I use this line at work all the time that you gave me in terms of even coaching, right, or working with a teacher is that, you know, as like, Hey Mark, I'll reach out to you, if I hit a wall or something you're like, well, wouldn't it be a better idea to like, I don't know, kind of not hit the wall. Maybe just, you know, get some guidance, and just be like, Hey, hey, Brandon, there's a wall up there. Don't hit it. I like to say, you know, because, and again, we are so I think as as Americans, I would say hardwired to Yo, yo, I get it from my children, they're still young, right? I can do this myself, right? Because we've asked them to do some things on their own, like, you know, we want you want you to be self sufficient, but we don't want you to get hurt. Right. Right. And and so we, you know, it's very difficult for us to ask for that help, or go to somebody to get that guidance, right. Because we've been taught that we're supposed to kind of do this on our own. How do you How would you, you know, I imagine he would do it just like you told me like, well, maybe you don't want to hit that wall, but like to somebody who's not engaged in the space yet and wants to get there.

mark youngblood 24:40 Yeah, you know, I happen to think based on years of doing this work, you know, I did lots and lots of development, self development work by going to programs, like neuro linguistic programming, but then getting into shamanism and doing some really intensive work. shamanism and just different things like that. And over decades, I collected what works, at least what works for me. And kind of put it together, you can think of it like, you know, a cool toolkit or a medical kit. And, and you use the tool that's appropriate for what needs to be changed in any moment. But I believe there's four dimensions here that are vital to the journey, and you can't leave any of them behind, or you'll regret it. One of them is soul connection, is that it's absolutely essential that you learn how to engage the soul in your journey, so that it will support you in that journey. And, in a real sense, do some of the clearing away of stuff for you, but will be your companion and you can get guidance from yourself. So that's part one. And part two, is you have to be able to manage your thoughts, because we're the CO creators of our reality. And our thoughts are going to play a huge role in what's going to manifest for us. So being able to change your thoughts to learn how to not let the autopilot run things, but to stay in the driver's seat is crucial. Third is emotional mastery. And this is not only do you not want to act out in the world in a way that damages relationships and, and that sort of thing, or, or suppress the emotions as a way to not act them out, you want to get in there and get rid of all the emotions that have been piling up since almost birth, because many of them are still there. And that's leads to not only are they low vibration, and there's some of the biggest boulders you need to move out, but they lead to inflammation in the body. And that leads up all the chronic diseases, and we've got an epidemic of chronic disease right now. And then the final is we're energy beings, right. And as energy beings, we need to manage our energy body, just like we do our physical body. And you have to have hygiene, because we pick up each other's energy and are you able to, to keep that heavy energy off of you. You know, it's like, if you were to climb around the attic with a white outfit on, what's it going to look like. And that's what our world is like, and if you pick up everyone else's heavy energy is going to bring your vibration down. But also we have vibrating frequencies, that are patterns in our energy body that are like magnets. And you can think of them as karma, you know, they're the, they're the unresolved patterns that are looking to be completed, they're looking for the end. Like there's this little musical tittie, that goes down that, again, it has an end to it. But if you went down after that, and stopped right there, there's, there's just this waiting and waiting and waiting for, you know, for it to finish. That's the way these patterns are. And so they'll stay there and keep attracting into your world. Everything you're experiencing until you clear that pattern out and put patterns in place to manifest what you do want. So those are the four dimensions. It's soul connection, mental mastery, emotional mastery, and energy mastery. And I think you need tools and all those dimensions, whether you get information you get them from, you know, any number of sources, is that you need to have those, you need to be able to do your own work to progress. So, I don't know if that was a tangent or if that answered your question.

Brandon Handley 28:34 Well, I don't know. I think that you know, for for sake of anything marketing wise, for dimensions that are vital. You know, that's a headline right there. Totally using that. You know, as you lead into that, I was like, well, we need to know what this is. Right. So very good there. For sure. One of the questions I mean, I don't know that I've ever noticed overly much in the groups or the workings that we've done together. As you as of a law of attraction kind of guy. Are you a law of attraction kind of guy? Or are you just kind of like, this is just how it works? I don't call it law of attraction.

mark youngblood 29:14 Well, I mean, you can call it law of attraction, and because it is the way it works, and I don't emphasize spending a lot of energy, trying to get the world to dance to your tune. I'll spend a lot of energy on that. I did, I did early in my journey, you know, cuz it was kind of, you know, that shiny object exciting, right? It's an appropriate part of most people's journey to learn, hey, I can manage that stuff. And, and that's totally cool. And it is cool. But it's like, it's like a, you know, a baby discovering they can talk, you know, but I mean, it's our nature to talk. And it's our nature to manifest and we're, you're already manifesting thing in your world, right? It's just it's not directed. It's not intentional, right? And it's disrupted by you know, a lot of the garbage that's in the way of being able to bring in, you know, what would be a great life. But I would say my focus is on get clear about your life path, get clear about your life purpose, learn to tune in to guidance that shows you your path forward, and it's going to open up for you. But part of getting there is your thoughts have to line up with that path. Right. And when you do, that's not to say that you won't have challenges, I promise you, you'll have challenges. But it'll feel right. You know, it feels like this is just the journey. But I bet you, Brandon, that you have had times when you weren't on your path, that you had difficulties, and you knew something was wrong with the fact that you had those difficulties. Right.

Brandon Handley 30:54 So I mean, looking back and and even looking ahead and a right now, especially right as I think as we become more aware of this feeling of the sensation of you know, hey, I'm, I'm working towards this thing, and I'm putting way too much effort into it does that, you know, why am I putting this much effort into it? And is it on? Is it in alignment with my purpose and path? Right, and then we kind of take a look at it that way, you're able to realize, oh, because it's not in alignment with with anything that I truly believe in in life. I think that's kind of what you're getting at, right?

mark youngblood 31:31 Yes, that's right. There's a different feel to challenges when you're on your path than when you're off your path. And you know, you're off your path.

Brandon Handley 31:39 100% I couldn't agree more. I mean, again, spiritual dope is on my path. Yeah. Right.

mark youngblood 31:46 I can feel it in you.

Brandon Handley 31:47 Yeah. And, you know, it's it very differently compared to the other two projects that I've spun up that were real similar, right. So those, that was a massive effort, massive, doing massive, like, ah, right, and, and, you know, the second one was less, and this one is even less, you know, more so, right. And there's still moments to your point where I'll be doing things I'm like, is this really is this necessary? Yeah. All this doing what I'm doing? And who's this? Who or What is this? And even recognizing Who or What is this for? Is this for my ego? Right? It's just for me, just to say, Hey, I just did this, and whatever. But, you know, I think one thing that I think I lost track of here in our conversation, this is all all been really, you know, great, great conversation, you know, so I want to go back to you being suffocated underneath of them, you know, your crashing moment? And how do we how do we, you know, move forward from that moment to integrate that awakening into the rest of your life and fulfilling life? Yeah.

mark youngblood 32:51 So so the question you're asking that if someone right now is in that point, and they're their breaking point, what do they do? Yeah, yeah.

Brandon Handley 32:58 How do you move forward from there? And how do you Well, I think next up, you know, the

mark youngblood 33:02 thing I didn't mention a while ago, and, and, and it's crucial, really two pieces to in successful spiritual evolution. One of them is you have to have the tools to be able to do your work. But number two is you need a community. And I would say, to everyone out there, that the number one thing to do, even before you get tools, the number one thing is, is get with a spiritual community. Because that community is a space, it's an energy, that when you tap into it, it's going to lift you up. And this world, if you have to navigate it by yourself, there's so much about it that is designed to cause you to go down and we call it the elevator, kind of go down the elevator to lower consciousness, and your community brings you back up your community lifts you up, and starts helping you see a vision for yourself that you never even saw for yourself before. And that's part of you know, what I offer as well, I have a free community on Facebook and a common rating. So community and then one that you join in, it's private, and it's got a ton of content in it called salsa community. But that's so you marry content with community and you've got a wonderful combination. And so, you know, I guess that's my best advice is, is go get in a community and then start finding what are the tools and practices that I resonate with most that I will adopt and start using for myself because, you know, this is not about how anybody else fix you. This is not about having anyone else take responsibility for your journey. This is a fundamental thing that your journey is your job. And, and a lot of people don't want it they they want someone to come do it for them. And and you'll be waiting a long time. It just doesn't work that way. You've got to be able to be the one sponsible

Brandon Handley 35:00 and that's important, right? And I do love the community to definitely want to hit on the communities that that you've created. I would also, you know, I would also say to like, if you find a community, and it doesn't, and it's a spiritual community, and it doesn't feel like a fit, leave, go find another one that feels like it's a fit, because there are plenty of them out there, right? If you if you're kind of in this space, and you're like, I found a community, but I don't feel like I'm in the right place, then you might not be and that's okay. You might not be That's right. One of the things that comes up a lot mark, I'd be curious to just kind of what your take is on it is that you see people who are often going through this process, and they feel like their relationship is hindering them from growing? And, and, you know, and it's funny, because I initially struggled with this. But you know, I came pretty quick to terms to in my own relationship, and, you know, everybody's relationships a little bit different. But, you know, it was like, Well, I'm not, we're not growing at the same rate and pace. Right? You see that a lot? How do you address that to somebody that asks you,

mark youngblood 36:13 oh, my gosh, I've spent so much time thinking about that. You know, there's, there's a point at which the gap becomes so great that you're operating from completely different worlds. And there's almost no meeting in terms of making meaning of things, there's no meeting of the mind that the meaning is fundamentally different. If the two people stay close enough, that they can synchronize their interpretation of things in the world, and then the path forward, so that you're able you as the spiritual aspirant are able to continue to follow your guidance, you're able to continue to walk your path, then that's relationship that can continue to work. In my own personal opinion, speaking solely for myself, I believe that our number one job, you know, our number one purpose for being here is their spiritual journey. And if a relationship is holding you back, then it's finished its job, it no longer serves you, it's time to move on. Because there will be another one waiting for you, that is a partner that meets you where you are, and is ready to walk the path with you. And I had that happened to me divorced about 10 years ago. And it wasn't a match. That's all I'm gonna say. It wasn't a match in terms of how we saw the world. And it was a big barrier for me to be able to move forward. And, and guidance, you know, I had several times where Spirit said, you work together as done, it was beautiful. It served its purpose, you know, it catapulted you on your journey. Congratulations, move on. And I fought and fought and fought until it ended up being a painful break. And right at that moment, a new woman came into my life, who happened to be my high school sweetheart, who had evolved tremendously in the 35 years since I'd seen her. And, and our journeys are perfect, you know, right, where her consciousness is, mine met hers. And we had been walking with spirituality at the center of our relationship ever since. And my consciousness has skyrocketed since that shift. So I'm only speaking for me. And there's a lot of people with lots of family that are affected. And it has to be a personal choice. It has to be something you know that you get clear guidance on, what's the right thing for you. And I always believe that, that the number one thing to do is if you get your own inner guidance, that's your truth and follow it, no matter how painful it might be. Is that helpful?

Brandon Handley 39:04 It is helpful. It is helpful, right? Everybody's journey is certainly their own. And you I guess one question that comes out of that, for me is, you know, why did you fight it to begin with? Right, what took Why did you know? Let's talk a little bit about that fight.

mark youngblood 39:17 You know, I think I mentioned earlier that that we go through these plateaus, and we have these breakthroughs, okay. And this was a breakthrough for me, because I had I had tried to leave that marriage when my son was three years old. And I realized because we continue to go to counseling, and we were just separated. I hadn't done my work that I was, is the least as big a part of the cause of what was going on is her contribution. And what's the point of going somewhere else to ruin that relationship when I I could stay in this So I came back. And you know, and from that point on where we are married 21 years, so is there a long time. And believing meant going through that, again, leaving meant leaving my son who was a junior in high school, it meant going through the pain of a separation, it which is no picnic, and it wasn't, you know, it was it was extremely difficult. And so I kept rationalizing it away, because it was that doing it would have been too painful. And spirit told me three distinctly clear times, move on, it's, it's time to go until there was a breaking point, something happened. And that was it. That was it couldn't stay anymore. And it was certainly the right thing. But that's what I would say, is that I was clinging to a smallness, you know, I was clinging to a smallness,

Brandon Handley 40:56 claim to a smaller thing, you know, as you were talking, just jot it down, like, you know, pain and fear, right? Like, who wants to go through all that? I mean, you know, like, you know, you've invested a lot of time, and energy, right, and believe that So,

mark youngblood 41:10 oh, friends, you got to remember, you know, you've built up 21 years of friendships and all that. And, you know, you have to everyone has to ask themselves, if the end of my life, what will have mattered, that I played small, and I didn't upset people around me, or that I followed my truth. And I'm broke through and I would I had this massive shift in my consciousness. Yeah. And that's something I think about all the time, there'll be a point when we check out when not one thing on this planet is going to matter. Right? It's kind of matter is the evolution that you achieved. Right, this spiritual evolution. Now,

Brandon Handley 41:49 that's, that's great. Thanks for sharing. I mean, I think that that's, that's really helpful for for people that, you know, who feel like they are kind of hindered by the things or you feel like they want to try and make it forward. And, you know, they, they, they're suffering through a lot of the same stuff that you suffered, right, like the pain and the fear. And, you know, is, is something better on the other side of that, and for you something was right. And yeah,

mark youngblood 42:15 well, here's what I would say to that, if you don't mind me stepping in here, I don't know is that when you say yes to your journey, Providence moves, that Spirit will come to you. And spirit will bring people it will bring the resources you need, it will bring the opportunities, it will support you and moving forward on your path.

Brandon Handley 42:38 Because it's like that trust game, right? Where you fall backwards. And you know, I'm a big fan of Alan Watts, right? Where he, you know, he's got that one, we're just looking to trust the universe is another, right, and, you know, universe to be your friend. Let's talk a little bit about that. And thanks for sharing, you know, kind of the journey into that space and kind of how to navigate going forward. Let's talk a little bit about some of the programs that you've created. I know, you've got a couple books out there as well. Yeah, what did you know what is uh, you know, the program you've got coming up here. So Mark?

mark youngblood 43:12 Well, I would say the first thing people would want to explore would be the soul side community that is available for people to join. And, you know, you're a member of that brain and you know, how magnificent You know, this experience is and, and how much evolution can come from it, and how much good can come from it. And when you join, you don't just get to come into the community, and have, you know, all those people surrounding you and being supported and being able to show up now, let's see more about that in a moment. But you're also going to come in, you're going to get some initial training for free. And initial training is the sole connection and divine guidance trainings, because job one remembering is to learn how to connect with yourself. So the very first thing you're going to get when you come in is how to do that. And there's I think there's seven or eight lessons in that that are really powerful lessons, to in just a matter of a few weeks, achieving that goal for you, is to be able to have that connection. And to get that guidance, and the community itself. I provide content every week, you get some new information that will help you to learn and grow, provide new tools, new tips, we have group calls, zoom calls, that we get together and talk about a topic and everybody gets to share their point of view. And, and if you have questions about life, about your own situation about any of the training that you're going through, then you can bring them up there and you're going to get answered about one of the things you asked earlier. You know, and you're making the comment that the people don't ask for help because of this whole, you know, the strong you know, gotta be strong, do it yourself. But there's another reason The other reason is the lack of safety. And that's one of the things that community provides, is it is such a safe place, it's utterly private, no one can see what's happening in there. Everyone's committed to everyone else, no one gets invalidated, nobody gets shamed, that you can say anything you need to say. And then people are baring their souls about crises that they're having. And Kim, you know, helped me have the strength to move through it. You know, we don't, we don't fix it for anybody, what we do is support you in having the strength and, and knowing how to do it for yourself. And that's one of the great beauties of this, as most people, most people never had a relationship. So honest, you know, so open, and so willing to be seen, and, and for others to be gentle, when you are trying to be seen. And it's about kind of the messiness in your life. Right.

Brandon Handley 46:00 Absolutely. Real Humpty Dumpty stuff, right, like I fall down and all the king's men Couldn't put back together again, but like, you know, it is it is I love the idea of not fixing it for you. Right, I think helping others to fix it themselves with with the support of the community. Yes. Right. And not only, you know, with the supportive community, but with with some new tools, and not just with new tools. But hey, here's how to apply these tools. Yes, what you offering do a really wonderful job. And one of the things that I like I love about what you put out there, and the support that you offer, and the community offers is patience. Right, right. And it takes it takes patience, because sometimes people like myself, you know, for example, they always get it right the first time. I know, that comes this sounds crazy. But you know, and so, you know, you work with it through to a solution for people. And another thing that you you offer offer, often that I see posts is you asked for prayers for people, right? Yes, I love that you do that. Right. So I think that that's something that's kind of underestimated the power of prayer, or we, you know, good vibes, or whatever you need to call it right, you know, I let's all send like, you know, concentrated thought of good thought and healing towards this one space. And so, I enjoy that you do that? I don't think I've ever shared that with you before. So, you know, I think that that's a real powerful tool that you're helping others to see for themselves. Yeah, one of the other tools that you you've given a couple of free transformational coaches assessments to me personally, yeah, I found them to be I was just thinking about it earlier. So the, the work that you do is so surgical. Right. But it's, you know, when you think about it word for it really is though, is surgical, like and, you know, not like, you know, I'm a barber from the 1800s surgical, but like laser surgery, and where it doesn't feel like I'm being you know, beaten and battered to our conversation, there's a there's a true, it's not invasive, and I come out of it. And like, there's like this, this is, you know, just amazing feeling. So I think that, you know, that's, that's awesome. And you share those with people through the group as well. The right wanted to, you know, once you just really quick, let's walk through doing like, you know, I love the kind of the clearing the energy thing, walk, walk, walk us through, you know, we kind of do the cyclone process, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

mark youngblood 48:44 So, this would be a great thing, that's a tool you can everyone can begin using right away. And it's the idea that our energy body, you know, it interacts at an energetic level with everything and everyone, and we pick up other people's energy, we also kind of off gassing our own negative energy. And if you ever saw the movie peanuts, and the little boy that walked on and, and dust just fell off them, that's, that's what our energy bodies look like, they're really generally dirty. But there's a very simple technique that gives you two versions of it, that you can use to clean this out and wash it out. And one of them is just thinking, imagining a white waterfall, you're, you're standing on a waterfall of white sparkling light, that's washing down through every part of your energy field all the way out to the edges of your RF through every cell of your body, washing any loose or negative energy negative, and then a kind of evil way but negative in a heavy vibration way. So it's washing this energy out and just visualize that and you can almost imagine water, this clean water coming in and then it gets dirty as it as it flushes this out. And you'll you'll start to have sensations you'll feel lighter, cooler, often. So that's the white waterfall, and a more powerful version. But different people respond to different forms of this is to imagine like a whirlwind like a tornado, that is a brilliant white light starting 30 feet above your head, coming down to the center of your body and out larger than your whole energy field, sweeping out that that heavy energy sweeping out the cells of your body, and then carrying that down 30 feet in the earth, and it deposits it there because there's beings that will consume consume that energy, because it's just, it's just heavy energy. It's nothing bad or toxic or bad. It's just heavy, and you want it out of your field.

Brandon Handley 50:42 Now, thanks for sharing that. And I always find that to be I always find that process to be super helpful, right? It's just yeah, helps me feel lighter, brighter, like, I've just been Clorox or something.

mark youngblood 50:56 Well, and you want to do it many times a day. Anytime you've gone out, and you've been around people, before you go to bed, it'll help you sleep when you first get up. You know, you had a lot of people when they're taking a shower, it's a good reminder, I'm in the shower, let me just do a white waterfall on in the shower. And I call it energy hygiene. Yeah. And you keep your energy clean, just like you do your body. It's one of many tools that are important. Like

Brandon Handley 51:22 something else you you hit on during that that I know that I've been personally struggling with is that when you think about the idea of you talks about kind of washing this energy away, or getting you know the cyclone to deposit this other energy. Yeah, and using the word negative simply because we don't have a better term for it. But But what you're saying, and I'm hearing, and it's great for me, because I've always been like, well, I just want to be like all positive energy. So I'm gonna breathing positive, and I'm gonna read out positive and I'm not trying to bring any detriment to anybody anywhere. I'm gonna say it's the idea is the idea of, you know, that energy, the may not be benefiting me may be benefiting something somewhere else. I like to thank you. Yes, that's very helpful. Yeah, like, I'm

mark youngblood 52:20 okay. Right. It's just, it's just frequencies, right? Maybe we should call heavy because it's heavy, this heavy energy that you want.

Brandon Handley 52:31 Yeah, yeah, no, and that's helpful, right? Just the idea of, of, of that, which isn't serving me may serve something or someone else. And in a positive, beneficial manner,

mark youngblood 52:44 right. By the way, one final thought on this is I may, is, every time you do any sort of healing work, energy work, meditation, yoga, you want to do one of those waterfalls, or whirlwinds. Because you're breaking up at least little bits of energy. And if you don't flush them out, they'll congeal onto the structures of your energy body, and it's still heavy. Yeah, getting there. So so just clean it out and let it go. And that's how your vibration pops up and up and up and up. And you can imagine, you know, doing that, in the eating the chocolate elephant form of doing healing techniques, fleshing that out, how it just gets lighter, and lighter and lighter, and all of a sudden, you start to be intuitive. All of a sudden, you start to understand things, all of a sudden, you have greater emotional control, because more of your light is shining out. And you're not having to try as hard anymore, to be a more magnificent, radiant person. That's how it works.

Brandon Handley 53:43 It's great. And thanks again, Mark. I mean, this is I actually I want to hit on one more thing is, is your book The the emotional mastery, but it wasn't the emotional mastery of the book that you share with me. I wanted to mention that book real quick to people as a tool that Mark has craves, really, really well done. And I think that that's another space that men in America, especially shy away from, right is dealing with their emotions. Yeah. So this job, maybe a five minute segment on how the how to start that work as a guy, right? Yeah, show mastery. Yeah.

mark youngblood 54:23 Oh, my gosh. You know, it's interesting that you bring that up. You know, I've got to two communities. And the ratio of women to men is about 75 to 80% women, and they're balanced as men. And we needed 5050 we need a lot more men to get on board with it. But the book is called dear human, mastering your emotions, dear human master your emotions, and I have a bunch of tools in there. That's a really great book. And you know this brand and but I don't think this audience is hurt yet. In the other part of my world I'm an executive coach, I work with CEOs and corporations and their teams, their senior team on how to be exceptional leaders. That's your long program, one on one work, very intensive, and it's all about consciousness. And these people brain And to your point, they'll do an assessment and assessment comes in and goes, your emotions are shut down. And so a big part of the work is to get them to, you know, reclaim their emotions reclaim their body. And and also to not let those emotions run them. And to be we call it the pilot or autopilot who's in charge here. Is your reactivity, your autopilot, and subconscious reactions running things, or is your pilot staying in charge? And then how are you going about that? So we teach tools for that we teach tools for this inner self mastery. And, and that's one thing that men can relate to, you know, if you give them an analytical process that they can see where simple,

Brandon Handley 56:05 yeah, we're simple creatures, we like pictures and things you can see, you know, you know, just tell me a map, and I'll follow it.

mark youngblood 56:13 So here's what I do I teach these tools, I have a tool called during the pain, that when you're triggered, it's a quick visualization to release the emotional energy may affect anyone who joins my email, this gets that immediately. give that away. That's one of those must have tools. And so it's a way that when you lose the charge, your head clears up, and you're able to make better choices. But then there's also, you know, how do you let go of insecurities and he clear those out? You know, how do you? How do you clear out old resentments? You know, what are the practices for that? So, one of the things I have found, as a motivator for men, I believe that was your question is how do we get men moving? What do you care about? Do you care about having a better marriage? Do you care about a better career? Do you care about being a better leader? What's the goal that would make doing this work worth it for you? Because that's what I do with my executive coaches to say, I mean, my executive clients, when I'm coaching them, what's, what do you want to have happen? Well, I want to be able to be a CEO one of these days that, you know, I want to be able to lead this company and really have it grow, I want to have a huge impact on the lives of the people that work for me, awesome. Here's what you have to do to get there. You know, so you can think of it like a Trojan horse, the Trojan horse, is the goal they want, you know, it's the big shiny thing. And inside is the thing that delivers it, okay. And that's transformation. That's the raising of your consciousness, learning how to master your emotions and, and elevating how you see and interpret the world.

Brandon Handley 57:50 That's powerful. Right? So I mean, essentially, you know, what I'm hearing you say is, you know, give them something to make the transformation worth it, right, be like, you know, help them to identify, you know, alright, well, hey, this, this, this massive goal for you in your life that you would like to get to? Well, guess what, the one thing that's keeping you out of, from that space is everything that you've ignored for the past.

Unknown Speaker 58:17 You've done

Brandon Handley 58:18 really well with, you know, you got good grades, you did the right things, and you climbed the right ladders for right here, right now, where you're at, you've got to address the shit that you haven't addressed. My life. And, and, and it's important to write and I think one of the things that I always hit on when I talk with some of my clients, or even just conversations is that, again, especially as men, and I'm sure there's plenty of women out there, too, like, we've been told to shut we feel like we were taught to shut down our emotions. And so we don't even have the the tools. Yeah, to to identify them. And and that's that that doubles the frustration too, right? We're like, wow, what am I feeling? Like? I don't know what it is. Is it anger, frustration is all the things and just gonna lash out? Because you have no way if you don't know what it is, how can you?

mark youngblood 59:16 That's exactly right. And I was raised in a spare the rod spoil the child household. And my father was pretty extreme in his punishment. And then, you know, after he'd beaten us, he would say, Stop crying, or I'm going to give you another reason to cry. And so we just weren't allowed to cry. I mean, I'm sure you've heard that story from other men. Yeah. And of course, their peers shall not simply show any sort of weakness and nothing worse than to be a boy called sissy. So sadly, now, I think it's changing. You know, it's changing. Yeah, I

Brandon Handley 59:50 would say it's changing. It doesn't it doesn't, you know, it's, we're definitely at the changing of the guard, right. We've got, we've got the boomers that you know, kind We still are holding on to, to that as we've got. And I hesitate to call it like an evil society or anything like that. Because again, you know, yeah, I think that each generation serves its purpose. Yeah. move us forward. Right.

Unknown Speaker 1:00:16 Right. Yeah.

Brandon Handley 1:00:18 So to your point that I believe, that I see changing, could it also be that I'm so saturated in this space? That that's all I'm tuned to? I don't know, I'm okay with either one of those two, though, to be honest with you, right. So, in order to address some of this emotional mastery do do check out, first of all, the book that Mark has mentioned, I think that that I think that's very helpful and beneficial. And then, you know, if, if you're looking to join the community, where should we send people mark to go ahead and join the communities? Yeah,

mark youngblood 1:00:57 so there's a free community that I'm in periodically, because I'm finished so much time and salsa community, it's, it's called the radiant soul community on Facebook, and you can just search for it. And it's free, and you can join, that's a public community. So it, you know, it's lovely, but it isn't the place you go to actually tell the truth and do your work, because it's public. But to join the soul side community, here's the link, and I'm going to read it to you. It's go, like the word go dot pathway to radiants.com. Ford slash soul site. So it's go dot pathway to radiants.com, slash Ford slash salsa. And you'll go to a page that describes what all you get in the community. And you'll see some videos where I've talked to you about it. And it's got a, you know, if you get the money back guarantee, you know, there and it's a 30 days free, so you get to trial for 30 days. And and once you join, you can quit at any time. And and so, you know, what's, you know, what's the risk, right? And you get to keep the training,

Brandon Handley 1:02:18 right, I love it, who is who do you think is an ideal fit for this program?

mark youngblood 1:02:26 I think the ideal fit are the people who are starting their journey. And the people, so beginner to intermediate, I do have training for advanced, it won't be there probably for another year. But for right now, if you're beginner to intermediate, and you're wanting support to really accelerate the transformation of your life, to raise your vibrational frequency to evolve your consciousness. And in doing that transform your world for the better. If you're hungry for that, then this is the place we're going to support you in that, we're going to give you the tools to be able to heal and to and to let go of the stuff that's blocking your soul light from shining. And, and you'll, you'll see dramatic changes and even a year, you know, you'll see dramatic changes in a year.

Brandon Handley 1:03:24 So I'm gonna, I'm gonna just jump in here to and share that I believe that what one of the things that I really enjoy about your community and the materials that you've created to help accelerate the journey, or even facilitate the journey, right, not even necessarily accelerate, it could be there. But it's in a world where there's a lot of Whoo, which I enjoy the hell out of it. Right. I enjoy that content. And in and in the world of, you know, just corporate, you know, follow these rules, lines, and whatever you've created what I would, I would, I would, I would say a happy medium. Yeah. Right. Which which, which allows for anybody in off the streets to come in into a space where, you know, you're not gonna nobody's gonna shove CBD oils in your face. And, you know, you're not gonna get like, I hit a pothole you as soon as you step in, and you can have real honest conversations. There's some other groups that I'm in to where, and I'll not say they're not right or true or anything, but there's something they're not for me, really, they're talking about, like, Oh, I was possessed by a demon. And then they go off on these, like, there's none of that, which makes me feel more comfortable because I feel like I'm surrounded by normal people. Yeah. normal life who are on their journey, right. And so, so no, that's

mark youngblood 1:04:49 that's such a great point. Yeah. Thank you for calling that out. And I think I'm an everyday guy, you know, somebody who can sit down and look eye to eye with the CEO and talk to him. About how to run this business, and also someone who can guide you on a shamanic journey. You know, it's about grounding it. You know, to me, it's all about, can I use it to live a better life? Can I use it to bring more light into the world? Can I use this predictably to evolve my consciousness? And that's what I care about, you know, and that's, I think, what you were pointing out and what you're describing

Brandon Handley 1:05:25 now 100% Exactly. So Mark, thanks for being on today. We can go over to I scroll all the way up to the top we go go that pathway to radiants calm soul side if this is a program that appeals to you, Mark and you'd mentioned a email program to His will. What if they just want to join your email list? How would they do that?

mark youngblood 1:05:50 Yeah, so to join my email list, you want to go to drain the pain calm drain just like the drain in the sink, drain the pain.com and you'll see some information there you just sign up and and you'll you'll get a bunch of really great stuff right away including the drain the paint at me. Yeah,

Brandon Handley 1:06:12 I'm just gonna you know keep piling on the the love for Mark and the tools that he's given here during the pain technique is really awesome. super beneficial. That was in one of our we did that one of our sessions. Together, you walk you through it, and I just did the amazing, just just amazing techniques and you're going and you can't sort of stuff you can't describe as this the stuff you've kind of got to experience for yourself and go through it. But so for a few of you listened and you've made it all the way to the end here today. Head on over to drain the pain and check it out and you know, reach out to mark for some of these other awesome communities. Thanks again,

mark youngblood 1:06:48 Mark. All right. Thank you, Brian has been just an absolute pleasure.

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Unknown Speaker 9:29 Or you know, even aligning yourself spiritually. So the things that you are doing, will begin to change will begin to change the way you approach it. And so what does that mean? It means that again, once you start taking action towards the thing that you say that you want to be doing, it's kind of like this signal to the universe. You're sending out a signal regardless whether or not you think you are to the universe. Or even somebody else like sitting around and looked at and seeing you. You're signaling them, you know, so maybe you've got to take it from 100% exterior way of seeing things. And you feel that if people see you doing what you say that you

Unknown Speaker 10:17 want to be doing, they will recognize it. And if you share it with them verbally, maybe they say, you know, yeah,

Unknown Speaker 10:27 I've got somebody that you should talk to. Right? Or, you know, Hey, I know a guy that sits in the same industry, would you like to talk with them. And that happens in more ways than then then then acts your way. So if you see an exterior only, that's fine. You could do the same thing with just taking the actions and not even telling anybody else really what your intent is. And I promise you that the universe, the world, whatever is going to see your intent. And how does that how can you validate that for yourself? This is along the same lines of letting go. And it's, it's when you again, you start to start taking small, tiny steps that maybe other people aren't even going to recognize what it is that you're doing. And suddenly, you know, after you take this first couple of steps, you're going to recognize that a, Wow, you are taking steps. And that you can start working towards that thing you said you want to be working on. For me, it was the first the first podcast I did, as fatherhood for the rest of us. And, you know, it was it was just awesome, because like, I was really scared to start it. I didn't know how or what it was that I was doing. But as I began to do it, I began to learn more about learn the things that I didn't know, learn, learn that right, you begin to learn as you start to do, and, and then the resources of people that would reach out to me, because of what it was that I was doing in the industry that I was in, again, just simply podcasting in an industry that I was in an area space, that area that I was interested in, gave me confidence to reach out to people to say, Hey, I'm in the Dad, I'm a dad podcaster looks like your dad, he's off about being a dad, wherever you are. And he has some tips and tricks to help other fathers to be successful in fatherhood and in life. And that opens so many doors and the more people that I engaged, the more confident I became. And the same time more opportunities just started falling from the sky, like falling from the sky. Again, one of those that I can share I was being contacted by the state of North Carolina, who was I think they're working with students is working with either foster children or something else. And a big part of of that system. Is that fathers, fathers, fallouts, fathers aren't there and so, you know, makes it challenges the family life and then like, you know, at a certain point, these kids got to go be fostered. So I was being contacted to speak on that to help create a program. And so things like that would just kind of open up for themselves with simply because I was doing and following something that I was interested in and had had signal to the universe simply by stepping into that direction. Please show me and share opportunities that are in line with my my spiritual intent. And so my question again to you is what is it that may see your spirits saying, right from my friend she's wanting to Spain's you want to do or exercise? Have more of that in her life? And, you know, what would it look like? You know, what would it look like? Cast yourself what would a perfect day look like for you? plan it out, and go do it. Take that vacation days, go do that thing that you you say that you want to do and see That's your perfect like if you had the opportunity to do it for a week doing what what is that? You know, how does that look for you? How

Unknown Speaker 15:08 does it actually feel to experiences and try it on you know, let your let your spirits say let your hearts follow your heart song is the lose debut I had with Tom Cat shoe was was released, check out him and his content with you talking about involving your heart song. He went from being a lawyer to a therapist to use kind of this holistic energy, spiritual author and coach and therapist and bringing all these pieces into his own practice. Now I stress the word practice, because these things are something that you never do you never finish it. You never and this type of search or goal seeking or living way of life and feeling, feeling your bliss. So yeah, make the time for it. Like I said, the BJJ for today's today's thing is you're making that time for the thing that you said it's important to you kind of brushing off the excuses. That that you're suppressing, if so, you're essentially you're suppressing yourself from having the life that you say you want, and there's nobody else that's that's keeping you from it. And, and once you once you make that time, and once you take a couple of those steps, and once you see this evidence of it, I promise you that you'll have at least that experience of of having that time for yourself and doing that thing that you said you wanted to do. And having that heart song, and feeling and following your bliss and feeling feeling into it and experiencing it. And once you kind of had that experience, I don't think that you can quite ever look back. That's it for the BJJ report. If you're enjoying this podcast if you're enjoying the guest please go to good iTunes and leave a review shoot me an email Brandon at spiritual dope.co if you've got a topic that you want me to hit on, in particular, and from any angle, let me know Susan do an email like Hey, what do you think about this? And how does this line up into spirituality? If you've got some questions, happy to attempt to answer them from from my perspective, but a lot of this happens through dialogue through questions through comments and questions. So take it easy. Thanks for listening.

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